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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on November 24, 2022

Happy Thanksgiving, Flappers. Our 13th at this fine establishment. I honestly thought I’d have deep 6’d this place by now but it just hasn’t happened yet. We always had some great holiday threads. Feel free to post your best meal/side dish for today. Twinner, Stix and Snarkk used to always bring the heat, as I recall.

Here was Thanksgiving #1 if you care to tip toe back to the past….


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  1. Locojuan said, on November 24, 2022 at 6:58 am

    Once again, thankful for the Flap!
    We are cheating like an Astro today. We went for a smoked turkey from the Old Colony Smokehouse in Edenton NC. These folks do awesome Q.
    Edenton is also home of the Steamers (heh heh), great old ballpark, wooden bleachers, sausages from the VFD, beer and $5 buck tickets. Great little town.
    Cheers to all y’all.

  2. willedav said, on November 24, 2022 at 7:32 am

    Whoa, los locojuans dining in style.
    Thanks as always Flav, that was fun basking thread featuring usual suspects (Ted at 2 AM) from 2010 still feeling good. good stuff, great read.
    Noticed Loo’s thread ending Private Eyes from Haulin Ass duo, which sent me to listen again to guitarist extraordinaire Eric Gale’s reggae version of Sara Smile from 1977 LP Ginseng Woman. Gale did lot of great stuff as sideman for CTI folks Bob James and co, plus Stanley Turrentine (Salt Song Don’t Mess with Mister T). More good stuff

  3. zumiee said, on November 24, 2022 at 7:59 am

    Sports-wise, I’m thankful to have a Kings season that is relevant. As I was driving last night, I actually listened to a Kings game on the radio for the first time in years. I had to try to remember what radio station they were on. Basketball on the radio is pretty surreal. You can get the gist of what’s happening, but it’s mostly mysterious and hard to follow.

  4. zumiee said, on November 24, 2022 at 8:07 am

    The Kings were playing the second game of a back-to-back on the road, and they were a little flat; but in defeat still gave the Hawks a pretty close game. The game just turned into one of those games when each team is clanking bricks on missed 3-pointers. Basically an ugly game.

  5. Winder said, on November 24, 2022 at 9:53 am

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

    With all the rumors floating around I am getting more into the FA stuff. I have an idea of what we are gonna do but really no clue. Just like an NFL draft it will be exciting to see what the Giants do. I hope we make some waves and sign some players who will make a difference.

  6. snarkk said, on November 24, 2022 at 11:46 am

    Up here on the Kitsap Peninsula in WA state, near the town of Poulsbo, this Thanksgiving Day is unusual for the locale. Spectacularly sunny! After a few days of rain and spritz, the day dawned with not a cloud. We will soon take a short drive from our rental house west over to the shore of the Hood Canal (not a canal, but more a wide, natural fjord that connects to the Strait of Juan de Fuca) and take a view along the Seabeck highway and look west across it upon the incredible Olympic Mountains after a storm — the snow is gradually building up and making them whiter and whiter and more beautiful. Last Saturday, Mrs. snarkk and I were in that Seabeck area and did a 2 hour hike in a state park along and around a small stream through a forest of towering conifers mixed with some kind of tall birch-like trees that were silently dropping huge yellow leaves about 10 inches across. The forest floor was covered with fallen, deteriorating leaves, groves of big fan ferns and green, moss-laden logs. Little chipmunks and tiny elfin birds skittered around and kept us company along with the occasional humans on the trail. We know salmon came up the stream earlier this fall, as it is designated a salmon stream.

    When we got to the trail’s Hood Canal overlook just over where the stream met the salt waters of the Pacific, we could see north a few miles distant the Bangor Naval base, the home of the US Pacific Fleet of massive Ohio-class ballistic missile subs. Each is over 500 feet long. If you look at google maps of the place and zoom in, you can see several of them there in the docks. Looking out on that beautiful stretch of water, we soberingly surmised that if Putin decided to go even more crazy, where we were standing, in a beautiful, peaceful natural world, would be one of the first places on earth incinerated in a nuclear exchange. Hopefully that never happens.

    For the last several weeks, while getting to know this new area, we have been crazy busy with finalizing the sale of our Bay Area home and finally identifying and going through the process of buying a home up here. We haven’t sold/purchased a home in 22+ years, so either this process is now way more complicated than before, or we’re just getting old and our patience is thinner than before. Our East Bay home sale should close next week, and the purchase of our new one up here should close the following week. The new one is near the Port Orchard channel of Puget Sound, we have “filtered” Sound views, through trees, as the waters’ edge is about 200 feet from our house, and we can actually see Mt. Rainier through the trees. I’m looking forward to soaking in the deck’s hot tub that looks out over that view, and at night — when the clouds are away the starry sky here is a real light show.

    Both of the snarkettes are not with us, and we miss their usual visit on Thanksgiving. They are each doing a university semester abroad in the local languages, one in Granada, Spain, the other in Bordeaux, France. Earlier this fall, they both met up in Bordeaux over a holiday and enjoyed that city together with school acquaintances. Mrs. snarkk and I realize they both are privileged young women to be able to do those things, and to be fluent and near fluent in another language. We are thankful that they have such an opportunity and experience. Mindful of the privilege, nonetheless we are proud of them, of their independent spirits and accomplishments so far in their young lives, and we are grateful especially today for all of that. Both advised this morning by WhatsApp that their overseas programs have arranged a TGiving celebration and gathering of US students, so we will find out later if the celebration involved turkey (unlikely) or was a celebration of the sentiment with delicious local fare.

    Up here, the holiday is widely called Native American Heritage day. There are substantial PNW Native American lands and cultural impacts around here, including lots of town and street names. After all, the city of Seattle is named after the mid-1800s Chief Seattle of the Suquamish tribe. Kind of like the Spanish town and street names all over California. I really like the PNW traditional native artworks and craft styles we see around, and intend on over time getting a few items to decorate the new house.

    Speaking of menus, in a nod to the traditional culinary bent of the Flap on this day, and to once again “bring the heat”, our menu later today at our new Pacific Northwest location is birdless and fairly simple, with a salute to our new, local area:

    Mixed, fall fruit salad
    Smoked, thick-cut, boneless pork chops (from a great smoked meat/fish shop I’ve discovered that is a dangerously close 5 minutes from our soon-to-be new home)
    Green beans from the local farmers market
    Mashed, buttered sweet potatoes
    Mrs. snarkk’s home made punkin’ pie
    Bainbridge Vineyards 2021 Siegerrebe – this is a white wine varietal seldom seen in the US. The winery, about 20 minutes drive from our rental house onto Bainbridge Island, describes it as “spicy and fragrant off-dry wine, with hints of grapefruit, apricot and melon. It has the fragrance of Muscat and the spice of Gewürtztraminer… 160 cases produced.” When we sampled it at the winery during our visit there last Sunday, I called it “tasty”.

    Happy Thanksgiving, Flappers !…

    • Flavor said, on November 24, 2022 at 2:29 pm

      what a wonderful post. Thanks for keeping us up to date on you pacific northwest adventure. Your kids are lucky, btw, sounds like you and they know that, too

  7. mrsprtdude said, on November 24, 2022 at 2:57 pm

    Thankful the Flap is still running:)
    Classic Turkey day at the Rymer house. The kids are in the Midwest so my brothers family and the in-laws (good ones) for turkey mashed potatoes, stuffing , corn, pumpkin pie. Mix in some drinking, and lots of football (both types this year. yay!), and it’s already been a great day. Added bonus that my company gave us tomorrow of for only the 2nd time in my 23 years!

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  8. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 24, 2022 at 5:59 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving to all Flappers in the Flap Universe. Yes, so much to be thankful for. I miss Thanksgiving, was always one of my favorites (in large part because of 4 days off….). Currently on a road trip down the coast of Vietnam, no turkey for this turkey, but just wishing you all the best. “Cheating like an Astro”, very funny Bozo…. 🙂 And nice story, Tom. Peace out….

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 24, 2022 at 6:30 pm

      Oh, and, I can’t share any scrumptious recipes, but last night I did enjoy a nice red curry chicken dish with morning glory greens sauteed in garlic, washed down with a very cheap Vang Dalat (red wine from the Central Highlands region of Vietnam) and topped off with a shot or two of Makers Mark which I managed to find at a little seaside bar…. Now Friday morning, no sign of a Black Friday, nice sunny day as I continue down the coast.

      • snarkk said, on November 24, 2022 at 7:20 pm

        Sounds fantastic to me…

  9. Flavor said, on November 24, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    My dad earlier today and then my daughter about 30 minutes ago have been lobbying me hard to not deep six the Flap. They both made compelling arguments. The thing is, if I don’t end it now I’ll never be able to end it. So I do this till I die? Is that what I do?
    Had a great thanksgiving dinner tonight in Palo Alto. Really great. But I am so fucking happy to get out of there now and go home before all the stories started.

    • djloo27 said, on November 24, 2022 at 9:42 pm

      I’d love to know their arguments…

  10. Macdog said, on November 24, 2022 at 9:14 pm

  11. unca_chuck said, on November 24, 2022 at 11:20 pm

    Cooked an 8.5 lb prime rib for 3 of us. Simple dry rub, slow-cooked and smoked. Most excellent. We’ll be having PR sammies for weeks.

    Love it.

    Our life right now is nuts. Kathy and my oldest daughter and son are living in Bozeman. Allison is in Big Sky. They started a company and are super busy. I went back there a couple weeks ago to unload trucks full of furniture and to give Kathy a break. She went to Nashville for a girls weekend. Wife and son are here now for a 2 week break in the action. I may go out in December to ski and do some work. Still have my job, but we have to figure out if we want to sell the house or rent it out. With a shit market we’ll prolly rent it. So we need to figure out where to go. Which means moving somewhere. Anywhere.

    • Winder said, on November 25, 2022 at 1:28 pm

      Good luck up there. Only been to Boseman once so don’t know anything else than it is just beautiful. I just read it is a growing city. If you find a place out of town you probably got to watch your dogs from other wildlife but I bet they will love it up there.

  12. willedav said, on November 25, 2022 at 8:28 am

    Bozeman, Unc? Gad, in Bay Area yesterday it was high 60s/low 70s. Ate early afternoon turkey outside on friend’s of mine covered patio.
    Instead of Godfather, host had Dr. No on, which for 1962 I think still held up pretty well.
    As did Ursula Andress.

    • djloo27 said, on November 25, 2022 at 9:17 am

      My Giant fan dad used to refer to Chuck Hiller as “Dr. No”…

      • willedav said, on November 25, 2022 at 9:23 am

        Hard to believe he hit grand slam in 62 World Series.

  13. Macdog said, on November 25, 2022 at 9:23 am

    ESPN GameDay was in Bozeman last week for Montana-Montana St. game, they said it was the coldest show they’d ever done, temps hovering around zero degrees. Nice setting though with the mountains in the background.

  14. alleykat69 said, on November 25, 2022 at 12:43 pm

    Today marks the 21st anniversary of one of the greatest sound bites of alltime by Football Coach Jim Mora when he said: “Uh Playoffs don’t talk about Playoffs you kidding me Playoffs? I just hope we win a game!”

  15. mrsprtdude said, on November 25, 2022 at 4:03 pm

    Any USA World cup fans of the flappers? A tie vs England means USA controls there own destiny. Win and we move on to the 2nd round!

  16. zumiee said, on November 25, 2022 at 4:23 pm

    I like all the excitement created throughout the world for the World Cup, but it’s not something I watch all that much. I have grown to like the sport more over the years, though. My wife is watching the World Cup. She’s very into soccer, or football as the rest of the world calls it. I’ve watched some soccer with her over the years.

  17. Macdog said, on November 25, 2022 at 5:14 pm

    I like watching the World Cup too, though this is an odd time of year to hold it. I got to watch some of today’s game with my daughter, that’s always fun. Hoping the US can make it to the knockout round.

  18. unca_chuck said, on November 25, 2022 at 5:31 pm

    Yeah, cold cold. There and back already and I’ll be heading to MT again in mid December. Daughter 2 is in Big Sky. 8500 ft. Top of the mountain is 11,000 ft. Working and skiing. Hopefully neither will kill me.

  19. Flavor said, on November 25, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    I put $50 on Spain at 7-1 I think. I can name like 3 soccer players and none on Spain’s team

  20. PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 25, 2022 at 6:31 pm

    Over the years I’ve learned to appreciate World Cup as quite the global sport and entertainment event that it is, not so much as a big football fan but rather how other people who do care about it really get into it. One WC while I was living in Boston, I lived near a neighborhood of Brazilians, and it was quite fun when Brazil won that year. Same living in the North End of Boston; when Italy was playing, man, the whole neighborhood shut down. And living in Asia, of course the locals are into football, but also all the expats living over here from UK, Oz, Euro countries, the bars are cooking all night when the games are on live even at 4am some years. I never expect the US to do well (except women’s World Cup) but a nice surprise when they at least survive a couple rounds.

  21. unca_chuck said, on November 25, 2022 at 6:36 pm


    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 25, 2022 at 6:40 pm

      Sorry, Australia…

    • PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on November 25, 2022 at 7:08 pm

      Oh, and Charlie: 8-1/2 pound prime rib?? Man, that’s some hefty eating….

  22. unca_chuck said, on November 25, 2022 at 8:06 pm

    Ahhhh. Yeah, not sure why Kathy got one that ginormous, but I’ll eat prime rib sandos for days. And loving every minute of it.

  23. unca_chuck said, on November 25, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    Love this.

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