Defining The Worst Loss
I still say last Saturday was the worst loss of the season. I know we have the recency bias to support yesterday’s game as the worst. Still, I had to watch last Sat live and yesterday didn’t even get to see it because of stupid Apple tv. The radio was bad but not as bad as having to watch it. I re-watched the Maton Bomb at mlb.com. It was horrific as expected.
I dunno. What do you guys think? Which was the worse loss?
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Last night to me is worse primarily because Gabe Kapler is a fucking moronic boob. Regardless of what others think. 3-0 pitch I am watching it live and every god damn person at the stadium knows Doval is about to groove one to get a fastball strike and the god damn hitter is waiting on it. Even if it is not a three run crush a solid base hit probably wins it right there. Any old school manager is making sure if not intentionally putting the hitter on an open first base, then maybe throw something out of the strike zone to see if he will swing at a bad pitch.
The one thing that is inarguable is that putting another runner on first does not hurt because the runner is meaningless. Plus there were two outs so start a fresh count with the next hitter….
Who called the pitch?
That is the problem, Kapler has to be able to relay that hell fucking no put the god damned runner on base instead of throwing a 3-0 meatball period….
Kapler isn’t catching or pitching.
Exactly. Who called pitch is something, but ultimately ball was in Doval’s hand He had finished off Tigers in 7 pitches inning before and he was 6th guy being used on first game of 14 straight without day off. He’s closer with a one run lead going in–who would you pull him for?
Happened to Bochy and every other mgr. too–you bring in guy you want and he implodes. Couple more day games in Detroit, time to get back after it.
Roger Craig had a complete grasp on his pitching staff and such an obvious moment as 3-0 winning runner on 2nd 1st base open, Craig is not letting his pitcher throw the fucking ball game away. Kapler has zero sense of wait it is to manage a pitching staff and pen and those mistakes has been bloody consistent since he has managed. He is a buffed out dumb jock with no brain power who relies on Farhan and all analytics. no feel for the game as a manager…we will never win a world series with him. Phillies figured that out right quick with him..
As an entire division, the NL West has underwhelmed so far.
Funky as last season was, Giants pitchers were very good at limiting walks and bombs. This season they are 12th NL for bombs allowed, though second best at walks and Ks.
And yes Doval has not had command of pitches so far.
Webb and Doval have been terrible. If that keeps up .500 would be a dream scenario, likely much worse
which I forgot to raise yday the Webb extension…seemed way premature to me with two years left on his rookie deal. Thoughts?
They have to build a staff another way than these one-and-an opt-out deals.
And Stripling.
if you have 4 min this is quite a story. The A’s are a joke. This is something that I imagined could happen at Evans Diamond in Berkeley but not at a mlb stadium
Tremendous!
regarding Webb, i am confident in him. I think he just has to adjust because the hitters have adjusted and what he was throwing before isn’t working cause they’re laying off it. Throw more 4 seamers up and that’ll keep them honest
High hard one best antidote to juiced ball/launch angle, right?
I’m hoping the Kings can give the Warriors a competitive series. There are lots of good reasons the Warriors are the favored team. The Kings would have to play their best ball and catch a few breaks, and hope the Warriors have some off games.
mm not gonna be easy Zum with Warriors just about at their healthiest. Road D issues of GS should improve noticeably over regular season, and as long as they take care of ball and make Kings work defensively they will be tough to beat. Hope Kings can take a couple games though and keep things interesting, especially at home. Should be great atmosphere in Sac and they’ve been fun to watch all year.
fuckin Beaty is back and starting lol
Waiting for the Gravedigger signing.
I think both those games were the worst. Worse is a subjective term(imo) and the outcomes stunk so bad it’s hard to tell.
Appreciate this blog and comments thread! Joc is out, so Beaty is back. BS! I say no to more Dodger retreads!!! Farhan thinks he is smarter than the dudes who trained him? Ha…ha…
I’m ok giving younger players PT in AAA, find some other 26 man roster fringe player to bring in. No fringe Dodgers! We have to draw a line somewhere.
1. LaMonte Wade Jr. (L) RF
2. Thairo Estrada (R) 2B
3. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
4. J.D. Davis (R) 3B
5. Matt Beaty (L) DH
6. Wilmer Flores (R) 1B
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
8. Joey Bart (R) C
9. Blake Sabol (L) LF
P: Anthony DeSclafani (R)
That LU card has a .500 season, maybe worse, written all over it…
That shouldn’t be the LU card on a team that’s the 5th most valuable in MLB…
Rethinking my thoughts from last night. Sadly Doval is the issue. We can’t intentionally walk the bases full with a pitcher who can’t get the ball over the plate. Dovals wildness isn’t on Kapler. He is in trouble constantly because of all the walks. As Dusty told my dad years ago…What would you do differently? I have to play the guys I have. And kapler didn’t throw to the wrong base either…If the players do their job the right way we win.
Well, in that situation the runner at 1st is meaningless. They should have walked him but that’s on the battery.
The funny thing is that J.D. Davis is exactly what the Mets need…
Whoever this announcing team is for the Giants doesn’t know Verlander is out indefinitely…
Flemm & Javy…
Glad you rethought your response mrsprtdude, i.e., I agree. Kapler even roasted Villar after the game (in a nice way) by saying . . . “He thought the ball was taking him toward third base so he had a chance to make the play,” Kapler said. “But that’s a play you rarely see made — it isn’t even one we practice. You have to take the out at first.”
Regarding Doval, that was a bone head decision selecting the fastball, as Maton had a hitter’s count and was sitting on Doval’s fastball. Pfffttt!
It was also right down the middle a little high but a perfect pitch to hit.
5th inning blues yet again.
What the fuck is going on with Crawford?
Can you repeat that?
Fuck fuck fuck here comes the bomb.
Hey now. 3rd shot at a DP and they turned it.
Hat trick for Craw.
The fielding is just atrocious.
Fuck me silly. We SUCK!!!!! I really thought we had settled the pen.
NOPE!!!
Today’s loss will be the worst.
Go Dubs! This fucking season looks like a disaster in the making.
Then again, the D that was worrisome is really awful.
Blew a 5 run lead to the bottom-feeder Tigers. After blowing a 4 run lead earlier.
Fuck Hjelle. Fuck Brebbia. Fuck Stripling. Getting sick of this same old same old. Hjelle’s gonna give up the lead.
Crawfish got one!
Truly fuckin pathetic for a major leaguer…
And now here comes Hjelle.
this is just outrageous.
This team is trash 🗑️ u know there losing in the bottom of the 9th right?
So, I thought pitching was supposed to be a strong suit of this team?
BTW, do we now have part time radio announcers?
Listening to FP Santangelo for any length of time leads to brain damage…
I kinda like the old school dirt runway from HP to the mound, but aren’t there rules about that?
Can you just construct your infield however you want up to a point?
I think they still have that in Arizona and I remember it in Wrigley Field way back.
I’m sure everyone is enthralled with this topic…
The Jake in Cleveland when it first opened.
Maybe not.
Meanwhile, hitless over the last 5 innings.
Brebia is bad but we run him out there every game. Augh
Only a few weeks in and rooting for this team is maddening
Tiger reliever looks like an anorexic Hunter Pence…
By June, how many guys on this Giants 26-man roster will be gone due to non-injury moves by management? Half a dozen?
Ramos needs to do something here…
Pop up wasn’t it.
This guy was hyped so long by the Giants, and like most of the farmhands that get up here for a look, it’s phtttttt…
I can’t stand the freaking term “You can turn the order over” Who fucking cares if u can’t get it done when you do ..
Kapp just blew his wad, basically nobody left to PH.
Not looking good to win this one…
Yep, that was fast.
After the wild pitch, why not walk the bags loaded and have the force at home in order for out #1, then hope for a DP ball on next batter? Isn’t that better than still pitching to Cabrera even w/him at 0-2 ? Not like he’s a HOFer or anything…
💯💯💯
I think they just gave up…
Sadly, you may be right…
Might as well because those runs don’t mean anything. But our relievers walk so many guys . . .
Only 11 years late, Miggy…
back in the day, this woulda been an EASY POTD if I still did them
Today’s is the answer.
I never imagined the season would be over by mid-April.
I’ll second that FUUUCCCKKK with a FUUUCCCKKK MEEEE1
Thank you Giants for making me waste a whole Saturday watching your normal fuckup playing a baseball game that you obviously don’t know how to play!
Hope the Gyros really are not this bad for the season, but this roster and the pitching looks bad right now. One of the worst in MLB. Gotta right the ship so they’re not out of WC contention by first week of May…
Bad defense and shitty relieving is a recipe for disaster.
SHIT!!!
The Warriors and Kings are on ABC tonight at 5:30 Pacific Time. It’s been many years since the Kings were in a game on ABC.
I was almost a Kings fan back then as I was so fucking sick of Chris Cohan and his abject ineptitude. And we were in Roseville and a couple players lived nearby. . . Caught a few games back in the Stoyakovitch, Bibby, Bobby Jackson days.
A couple of interesting playoff games tomorrow, too. Lakers/Grizzlies and Suns/Clippers.
^West coast bias…
Ha! 🙂
Deja vu all over again. 2 nightmare finishes in under 24 hours. Is there an exit ramp anywhere in sight?
Next exit, the highway to Hjelle.
Touché.
Brebbia credited with a HOLD for this:
One third IP – 3ER – 2H – 1BB
Seriously!
Holding his dick?
Tongue in cheek..Craig asking us to rate which lose was the worst put it out there we needed a 3rd choice!
Today was the worst of the 3. All their losses suck. They suck.
Sabol’s not much of an OF, but, the injuries. Bart’s hitting some singles. The catcher competition couldn’t be much more disheartening. SP is great, for a few innings per game, and the pen’s thin–the few good arms there are already overworked. Crawford’s on pace to commit about 40 errors, assuming he takes a day off now and again. Of course, we have no backup SS. Villar and JD can both play 3B and that’s it. Etc. Thairo? Right. This team is a mess. Who the fuck engineered this roster?
Well, you keep picking up 28+ guys, you run the risk of these guys getting hurt all the fucking time. I don’t know. This is pretty much an indictment of the 5 years of drafts that have produced Villar and . . . . . Hjelle? Bryce Johnson?
Dubs just have to stay close. I think they’ll pull away in the end.
Dray/Looney have neutralized Sabonis.
Well done.
Fox and Monk (UK connection) though not so much.
Kings fight their way back in 3rd. Good ballgame.
Yep. Good game on both sides.
His heel was in the restricted area.
Yep.
Dubs are chucking and ducking. They need to drive to the hole. That’s why the Kings are getting to the line. Stupid.
More of the same. Stupid ball.
It really bugs me when we just starting gunning and missing. The kings got to the line the last 6 minutes of the game and got a boatload of free points. The Dubs didn’t even drive at all the last 6 minutes.
Well, we’ll take 4 of the next 5.
I thought for sure the Kings would pay for those 2 Fox bricks, but Wiggins missed the wide-open 3 and Sac holds on.
Well Zumie gets a night to celebrate…
Enjoy it ..
The Warriors were in the bonus with 8:45 left in the 4th. We should have been attacking the rim but instead went with missing 3s down the stretch. The Kings drove and got a ton of free throws.