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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 2, 2023

LOL, they were gone two days.

And San Diego didn’t seem to have any problem waxing the Reds last night.

Outside of pro golfers, baseball players have to be the softest group.

Hey, at least Stevenson arrived in time to save the day.

Stevenson? Yeah, the guy who we bought from the A’s. THE OAKLAND A’S! Farhan is just not

a serious GM…….


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  1. Giant Head said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:24 am

    Maybe they drank the water…but in full agreement about Farhan. Type of team that could go on a 10 game losing streak…

    • willedav said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:02 am

      And yet this time last week Giants were in middle of 5 game winning streak, one that featured a walk off 2 run HR to dead CF from prospect guy Z signed, Sabol.
      It’s a long season with 5 full months to go.
      As Pops Stargell said, don’t get too up/too down.

      • Giant Head said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:14 am

        But all five at home against a really mediocre Cards and less than full team Mets. We were lucky to scrape wins in the last two of that series. We will have a lot of games in LA, SD and now a much better AZ. We are maybe more of a 70 win team and will management/ownership take a hard look at both Kapler and Farhan after the season? Going into next season flailing at getting legit big time free-agent hitters is I think the end of the road for both…

  2. Flavor said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:27 am

    these never get old.

  3. zumiee said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:21 am

    There’s nothing more tired in sports than players playing the “disrespect card.”
    Dubon, and Draymond Green, most recently. It’s so tired. Draymond, the mouth that never goes silent. Sabonis didn’t shake his hand after game 7. Oh the tragedy.

  4. alleykat69 said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:33 am

    Farhan could atleast get the right A’s reject player in Brent Rooker who is just destroying a baseball hitting .353 9HR’s 22RBI’s and was named player of the week this past week..

  5. alleykat69 said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:39 am

    And btw what the hell does Dubon have a gripe against?The Giants did everything possible to give him a chance even housing him.Then he was out of options and they had to make a decision and the answer was obvious in the name of the more talented player named Thario Estrada end of story…

  6. Flavor said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:48 am

    Dubon was really off the mark with those comments. The Giants let him play all over the field showcasing his ability to be able to do that. Houston doesn’t trade for him if SF didn’t play him all over the field. He should be thankful, talking shit about the Giants is bush league

    • snarkk said, on May 2, 2023 at 11:50 am


  7. Macdog said, on May 2, 2023 at 9:08 am

    The Astros thought so highly of Dubon as a hitter last year, he got in 6 postseason games, including 2 in the World Series, without a single at-bat. Screw him.

  8. snarkk said, on May 2, 2023 at 9:09 am

    KNBR talk this morning with Kuip talking about Yaz onto the IL as if Mays just went down for a couple of weeks — what’ll the team do now? Criminy, if the team can’t handle the loss of a near journeyman outfielder for a few weeks, what does that say about the whole organization?…

  9. James said, on May 2, 2023 at 9:25 am

    Davis, Estrada, and Wade reflect pretty well on Zaidi. Yaz had looked good this year, again, too. The failure of the 3 major FA pitcher signings so far has hurt the team a lot, but that should start to even out based on their track records, which are middle of the road, with Rogers better than that. If it doesn’t, that’s bad luck, not bad GMing. See his signings of Gausman, Rodon, and Disco.

  10. xoot said, on May 2, 2023 at 10:42 am

    I think doobie’s baserunning decisions told us everything we need to know about his judgment. Maybe he amuses Dusty.

  11. snarkk said, on May 2, 2023 at 11:36 am

    Giants lead the MLB with nearly 11Ks suffered per game. That’s a ton, even in today’s HR or bust environment.
    ERA is 3rd from worst in NL.
    Catcher position is in a crazy situation with a very inexperienced rule 5 guy holding it down.
    This is not a good team as currently constituted.
    If they’re still 6 or so under .500 by end of the month, bodies are going to be moving in/out even more. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Bailey up by mid-summer…

  12. alleykat69 said, on May 2, 2023 at 11:46 am

    I thought the Giants&Catcher Gary Sanchez had an opt out ending May 1st so what’s the deal adding him are not?

    • snarkk said, on May 2, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      If no other team wants him, I think he just hangs in the minors if the Giants are OK with keeping him. I think there is another opt out date of June 1. His slash line in the Giants minors so far is garbage, and he’s no defensive genius at C, so it must be up to how many C interference and passed balls Farhan can tolerate from Sabol…

  13. Macdog said, on May 2, 2023 at 2:31 pm

    Pav: Giants released Sanchez, Hjelle to Sac. Reliever Waites called up.

  14. alleykat69 said, on May 2, 2023 at 3:41 pm

    Well that shows everyone how bad Sanchez is when he can’t cut a Giants roster.
    Best move they made was getting Highway to Hejelle back to Sac immediately.He totally sucks right now giving up a minimum of 2 baserunners per inning,walks, no control,wild pitches,no confidence, even The postgame crew of Estes, Britt,and especially the guy I can’t stand, the hispanic were ripping him a new one for his ineffective pitching..

    I like Waites who has much better stuff, but only time will tell I guess?

  15. mrsprtdude said, on May 2, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    Frustrating, but as Willidav said..it’s a long season.

  16. Locojuan said, on May 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    I guess I should be happy I’ve been missing the traveling Giants games. Reading the box scores has been really quick, Manfred would be proud. Win 6 in a row and we’ll be back to .500.

  17. Flavor said, on May 2, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    James– using the Gausman and Rodon signings as some sort of + for Z is ignoring the fact that he gives out the dumbest deals ever—2 years with an opt out after 1. So we lose Gaus and Rodon cause they had a good year and we’ll get stuck with guys like Conforto. If that’s the best you got to put on his resume then maybe Z sucks more than I originally thought

    • James said, on May 2, 2023 at 5:34 pm

      I thought you didn’t particularly want SF to re-sign ether one of them, especially Gausman after his performance declined later in 21. The fact is, Zaidi has had a pretty good track record with the signings and his acquisitions of Davis, Estrada, and Wade have proven to be nice additions. I wouldn’t give up on Conforto just yet.

  18. willedav said, on May 2, 2023 at 5:41 pm

    Latest Carlos Rodon news per MLBTR April 24: ” The lefty took a positive step this weekend when he resumed playing catch.” contract status: 6 years $126 million.

    • blade3colorado said, on May 2, 2023 at 5:50 pm

      Spot on Willie . . . $126 million to play catch. Hilarious. What’s next? Playing pepper?


    • unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 5:58 pm

      I certainly don’t bemoan Gasman or Rodon being gone as we got them both BECAUSE of their injury history. We gave them a nice boost into the salary stratosphere. But they can scuffle/cripple elsewhere.

      Gasman has reverted to his .500 self. Is that worth $22 mill? Rodon prolly win’t pitch this season for his $27 mill this year.

      Sure, they are gone, but We got Webby and, and, and, hopefully Harrison.

      Cobb, DeScaffolding, and Wood are fine and will likely do as well as Gasman anyway at less than half the price.

  19. unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    My problem with Farhan is the lack of anything from the farm. He’s had 6 drafts since 2018 and we have Pancho Villar and Highway to Hjelle (Hjelle Man Kelly?). Who just got sent down. Yeah, there are a lot of maybes and close guys but looking at teams like the Pads and Dogs, they bring up guys regularly that make immediate impacts. We have a lot of guys struggling at AAA and below.

  20. unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    But, all in all, the biggest disappointment is the bullpen. I thought they had pretty much nailed it down with all the cast of hundreds last year, but they suck and have blown about 98% of the leads they’ve inherited.

  21. blade3colorado said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:07 pm

    Giants are a sorry ass team. You wont get an argument from me. However, I don’t attribute hardly any of that to Z, as he had an excellent “Plan A,” but fate or bad luck caused him to go from Plan A to Plan B and finally, to Plan C. I wont go over all the free agents he tried to sign, and/or details, as you know full well what happened this past off season.

    Regarding the farm, I still think he has an excellent farm system in place, insofar as talent evaluators, scouts, minor league assistants and managers. Didn’t we all sing his praises when he overhauled the system 4-5 years ago? I guess I imagined that too. Look, baseball drafts are a crapshoot frequently. Even the Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers, etc., have missed on drafts. I will quote Sabean again (I did a month ago with this same quote) . . . “Quite frankly, we’re very reluctant to overspend in the draft. We’re cautious in that regard because it’s so fallible. Our focus is spending as much as we can and being as wise as we can at the major-league level and using the minor leagues as a supplement and not necessarily leaning on it totally. Teams that are allowed to have a three-to- five-year plan and allowed to lose or explain to their fans they’re in a rebuilding mode have a greater latitude than we do. We always have to be in a reloading mode.”

    So yeah, go ahead and blame Z and/or Kapler, but tell me who you are going to get to replace them???

    • unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:18 pm

      I don’t know about that, Blade. Our drafts have been awful. Saying he improved the farm is great when they were 30th in 2017. Nowhere to go but up. The farm may have been given great grades, but, the draft guys haven’t made it. 6 years of drafts have netted little. Villar and Hjelle. And a whole lot of hope in a bunch of guys that are still a year or two out. How is that not on Farhan?

      Yeah, the draft is a crapshoot. But passing on guys that could help the team (Josh Bell, Nimmo, Beinitiendi to name a few) bothers me. They aren’t huge ticket guys, but we seem to be building a team on the cheap. I thought we were dumping salary to go after big-ticket guys, but now that we are 11th in salary, we simply look like a richer version of the A’s. A middling team that isn’t going anywhere with a bunch of cast-offs and middling guys.

      • blade3colorado said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:32 pm

        He passed (or delayed) on those guys because he was concentrating on Judge and Correa. By the time Plan A face planted, those guys you mentioned were already signed (if I recall correctly). Again, just me – but line up 30 MLB general managers and I guarantee you that Z is in the top 3. If he were fired by the Giants tomorrow, half the league would be trying to sign him in a nano second.

  22. djloo27 said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:48 pm

    Wisely reminds me of somebody but I can’t figure it out.
    Maybe SanDog can come up with it…

    • James said, on May 2, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      Crawford’s ugly kid brother?

    • xoot said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      Byrnes? Tug McGraw?

  23. xoot said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:30 pm

    T Bone’s great effort deserves to get closed out decisively.

    • James said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:51 pm

      Did that count?

      • xoot said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:03 pm

        I suppose. Giants have four good SPs; one is hurt. True. But that’s still enough to support .500, easily, with an average team behind them. RH&LH DH are solid 3B &2B are solid. 1B is OK. Bart is OK at C. The OF may be approaching OK. SS is not good, but not a disaster. So, the pen.

      • James said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:12 pm

        Ha, I thought, despite 3 up 3 down, the decisiveness of the close out might be in question after those mound visits.

      • xoot said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:20 pm

        That was sloppy, but Doval didn’t cave. Otoh, Joey seemed able to respond and adapt. He and Doval go way back in the minors.

        Do you get a new allotment of mound visits in extras?

  24. Macdog said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:52 pm

    Great game by Disco! And nice 0-fer by Dubon. The pitch is gonna be an issue with Doval all season.

    • Macdog said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:52 pm

      Pitch clock

  25. unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    Giants won? There you go.

  26. Winder said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    That was a really good win.

  27. mrsprtdude said, on May 2, 2023 at 8:39 pm

    Great win GO Giants!!

    • zumiee said, on May 2, 2023 at 9:05 pm

  28. Macdog said, on May 2, 2023 at 9:43 pm

    Ooof, Lakers take Game 1, outplayed Dubs (or ubs — no D) in 2nd half. Great rally by Warriors with 14-0 run, but maybe ran out of gas? LA scores last 5 in final two minutes to win it, starting with DLo layup. Davis is gonna be a problem.

  29. unca_chuck said, on May 2, 2023 at 10:12 pm

    We had no answer for AD. 30 points, 23 rebounds. Fuck. Bron was OK. Their length created a lot of problems for the Warriors. They had 10 blocks. My hope is the Lakers blew their collective wad on that game.

    I don’t know. 29-6 on free throws. That’s what happens when you jack up 53 treys. Really getting tired of seeing Steph get blasted into the seats on layups and no fouls being called.

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