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It Starts Now

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 12, 2022

Well, not sure where we go now. Rodon wiping out the Pirates tonight would be a good start. I’m happy to just sit back and watch this unfold.

Running on Fumes

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 11, 2022

Another day off. The pen arms could use that. But it won’t matter. I wonder if Z made an offer to the Tigers for one of their BP arms?

We’ll never know.


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 10, 2022

I just checked my emailing hoping that Stix had this thread covered. No such luck. He must be raging in a Minnesota forest.

Why does everything Rogers throw up there look so obviously hittable?

A Nice Little Winning Streak

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 9, 2022

A surprising 1-0 victory over the Padres. San Dawg was at this game and will, hopefully, add a re-cap in the comment section.

All of a sudden confidence oozes from this leaky train. Will the SF bats finally flank the mighty contributions of Corn on the Cobb?

We’ll find out soon enough…..

Oakland Sucks

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 8, 2022

Well, we took down the Bay Bridge Series and when the final out was secured I was having trouble even seeing the tv through my tears.

Yeah. No.

Anyway, this season trudges on and every time they win a couple of games I start thinking they could make the post season. This is what a .500 team will do to you.

Stix Break

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 7, 2022

This is from a couple of days ago but still worthy of a spot in the main thread. Stix’s version of War and Peace:

Carstie ClausenFri, Aug 5, 11:48 AM (2 days ago)
to me, carstie

 Flav:  Kudos.  This meta-analysis on the why’s and the wherefores was, like Blade immediately pointed out,  definitely top-grade and one of your best ever.  Constantly, you hit the nail right on the head and so did Blade and right on through the rest of the Flappers,  concluding with Bozo, at which point I decided to give credit where it is overdue.  Great bunch here and it will be tough when this season ends and you hang up those spikes.  Got my fingers crossed that someone, or maybe two or three guys can get together and share that “burden”.  Cue Eric Burdon and The Animals and “Down in Monterrey”.  Somehow the Flap must go on and you have done your bit and today’s superlative offering might well serve as an overall swan-song.

 I’m totally with you on not trading off Rodon.  It should of happened.  However, as a Flapper pointed out, the teams who could surely have used him to get into and dominate in the Post-Season only offered “grade-B” material.  Perhaps that had a lot to do with a perceived dump on the Giants for the team’s recent collapse.  One would think that at least one single Grade-A prospect, plus two or three lower-minors “B”s would have been offered.  But business does not always make sense…particularly when uncaring owners get involved in the process. Yesterday an Atlanta perspective came to my attention.  The Braves had already overextended themselves in trading prospects to offer something even remotely acceptable for JocUlations.  So it is what it is.

So how much of the transactions or lack thereof fall on Zaidi’s shoulders?  Butts in the bleachers may be the underlying reasoning coming from Baer and/or the Johnsons.  Both of those two stars are draws.  Star-factor brings in those fashionable fans.  Perhaps a few thousand extra butts in the seats over the course of the season.  Bottom line stuff.

 For some crazy reason it has fallen on little old me to analyze what Zaidi/Harris actually accomplished.

  Mostly, the Tradewinds that did blow were long-term:  Down on the farm. On the lead, the trade with Seattle for our useful catcher Casali and Boyd who were currently on the I.L.  Seems like the Mariners are all-in this season.  It has been awhile for them, like ’95 when they got ambushed by the original Evil Empire, while having set a new W-L record during the season.  Hungry Mariners have had a raft of injuries, particularly effecting their catchers.  So they gave up a AA pitcher named Stryffer.  Who? Reliever.  35.2 IP with 19 entire bases on balls vs. 57 special K’s. 2.27 ERA and a total of 14 saves.  Giants desperately need for next season a probably reliable late-innings guy. Who knows?  Stryffer could be the Stifler.  Maybe an effective sangfroid closer.  Certainly a setup man.  This could have been a steal.

 Asking for a bit of personal credit on the Ruff-stuff trade. I called it on Ruff in one of my more recent postings.  For the Mets Darin could be the ’54 model Dusty Rhodes New York Giants World Champs pinch-hitting specialist—or in today’s world—D.H. for the team that retained the Giants orange (along with the Dodger blue) to show a bit of civic baseball pride.  Ruff showed his stuff for S.F. and we will miss his timely blasts.  So who did we get for him?  Topping the official list: J.D. Davis.  Mets needed roster-space and seldom used Davis came to be the fall-guy. A California boy, Davis maaaybe will find his sweet-spot with Los Gigantes.  No big gamble, though.  My take is that Davis was just the face-man in the trade.

 LHP Zwack, a 24 Y.O. Minnesota boy has had him a ball in his hands in both the Mets’ A and A+ leagues this season. Check out these stats:  He’s 6-2 as a starter and even picked up a save along the way, sporting a 2.36 ERA over 76.1 IP giving up all of 58 hits over that span, 20 earnies, three whole taters along with an 18-96 BB-K ratio; a sweet WHIP, a whopping one of ).996, along with a 6.8 hits per nine, H.R.’s at 0.4 and finally 2.1 BB per 9 topped by 11.3 special K’s.  I’ve been following pipeline stats throughout the season and the only set which comes even close is our 20 Y.O Kyle Harrison.  If MiL stats are any measure for future performance in The Show, Harrison and Zwack should be in the top 3 of the Giants rotation by ’24 or so.

 But that’s not all in the Ruff deal.  Zaidi went for the throat on this one.  Mets must have been drooling.  Two more pitchers. The junior of the pair is a 23 Y.O. RHP name of Seymour, who pitched for St. Lucie in A ball and Brooklyn in A+.  Not too shabby stats commence with a 2.76 ERA over 18 games, with 13 being starts. Cumulatively, he gave up 68 hits over 81.2 I.P., with 25 earnies, 8 dingers, a BB-K ratio of 21-92 and a WHIP of a cozy 1.090.  That was achieved via 7.5 hits per 9, …9 H.R.’s, 2.3 BB and 10.1 special K’s. Steal #2?

 Ready for The Show:  Third theft from the top of New York’s pitcher pipeline is a 26 Y.O. obvious LHP Polak name of Szapuki.  Triple-A stats better than any similar reliever for the River Cats. Not spectacular but sturdy with a nice 3.24 ERA along with 16 saves. Stats include 54 hits over 64 I.P. leading to 24 earned runs and including a scanty 5 taters, a 29BB-87 K’s and a fairly decent WHIP of 1.297.  Hits per nine have added to 7.6, homers to 0.7 and 2.3 BBs vs. 10.1 K’s.  Don’t fall off your chair if “Puki” gets the call by September.  Another late-inning reliever and a southpaw to boot.

 Strikes me that with those three much needed pitchers, Zaidi not only robbed the bank but also lubed up the teller and cleaned out the vault…We will miss Ruff-stuff maybe not winning a couple of games this year for us with timely taters, but his going to the Mets is gonna have a major effect on S.F.’s future.  In two or three years it is not improbable that the Giants will have a stockpile of hurlers (including the vast majority of this season’s draftees) quite sufficient to wow them comes the 2024 trade deadline.

 Off the top, the Casali-Boyd trade to Seattle, netting Stryffler, also provides yet another catcher, this one from A+ ball where he was being constantly evaluated by Giants personnel as he played against the Emeralds.  Twenty-three years of age, Andy Thomas is the long-term replacement for Casali.  A 2021 5th round pick for Seattle, Thomas sported an acceptable B.A. of 2.64 with a strike-zone conscious 400 OBP and an acceptable 444 S.P (adding to an 8.44 OPS) along with 9 H.R.s, a dozen doubles and a nifty 16.2% walk-rate.

 More than one fan has griped about the trade of Trevor Rosenthal (Trevor, we hardly—never— knew you) for a low-power 22 Y.O. from Winkler, Manitoba name of Tristan Peters.  A LHB, Peters can play well in all three O.F. positions which he has demonstrated this season for Wisconsin Rapids, the A+ affiliate for the Brewskis.  Here’s some revealing stats:  Over 330 A.B.’s (obviously no bench-time) Peters combined 61 runs scored with 51 RBI’s for a total of 112 runs produced (I love that stat) on 101 hits. Whenever runs produced tops total hits, my eyebrows lift pleasantly.

 Here’s why some of the gripers complained about Peters’ relative lack of power.  He happens to be one of those doubles-machines which I so favor, with 22 of them,  topped in a sense by a nearly incredible 8 triples and capped by a modest 7 homers, for a total of 37 of his 101 safeties being XBH.  He’s gotta have one helluva batting-eye, drawing 45 walks as against 61 whiffs.  How many Giants farmhands have a .306 batting-average?  Well we have another one now to join the tiny crew.  Add all those walks and the OBP rises to a near-sterling .386, and highlighted by all those doubles and triples his S.P. is a surprising .485, for an OPS of .871.  Not too shabby for a 22 Y.O. in A+ ball.  Should he maintain anything remotely resembling this season’s production in pitcher-dominated Double A for the Flying Squirrels next spring, Mr. Tristan may join The Show by April of ’24.  With his skill set, he may fairly soon find himself batting in the two-hole or possibly even leading off.

 Here’s the under the radar accomplishments by the Dynamic Duo of Zaidi and Harris:  Officially leading-off J.D. Davis who is a previously marginal but somewhat versatile corner infielder who becomes a hometown reclamation project for the Giants.  He could be little more than a space-filler, yet another dumpster pickup.  Or he could love him some home cookin.

 Infield corners:  Check.

  A bit away yet, but a stolid, relatively solid replacement for Casali, probably by ’24.  Trade an injured-list catcher and get a future replacement.  Check.

 Outfielder with full versatility, probable leadoff or 2-slot on-base specialist. Check.

 Pitchers ready for the show and pitchers as outstanding prospects to fatten up the pipeline in the near future.  Stryffer and Szapaki look ready for The Show.  Likely to both show up in September and maybe sooner, depending on ongoing evaluations.  Both relievers are desperately needed late-inning guys.  The other pair, starters, are likely a couple years away, but sure have some promise and should rapidly advance to the head of the pipeline.  Somewhere between September of ’23 and April of ’24 they could both appear in the Halloween Machine uniform.

 Grain is starting to ripen on the farms around these parts.  On the Giants farms, the ripening process has taken a Great Leap Forward.  Keep those names in mind.  The haul:  A serviceable corner infielder, an up and coming catcher, a high OBP outfielder, with significant XBH cred and no fewer than 4 pitchers, a pair of ready to go relievers and a duo of promising starters.  Rodon and Pederson did not bring home the bacon.  Butts in the seats, dontcha know.  But by finessing what they could afford to offer, Zaidi and Harris did their under the radar once again due diligence.

 Personally, my take is that they played it like 3-card Monte…or maybe more like Grand-Theft automatic.

We’ve Been Doing This A Long Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 6, 2022

I’m trying to remember the first time I posted at the Splash. There was absolutely no lurking for me. Twinfan and Nipper were talking about projected win totals for, I think 2008, and they were WAY to high, lol. I politely let them know that and Twin jumped on me like a bear in the woods. I was pretty hooked on blogging, at least there, from that moment onward. I remember when that season ended and I was like “ok guys, good chatting with you, talk to you next season!” and Twin was like, “we’re not going anywhere, dunderhead.”

So I kept blogging….

I THINK I started the first blog at blogspot.com in 2009 (although it’s possible I started it in 2010 and then migrated over to wordpress on May 31st 2010). But who knows, maybe we had the blogspot blog for the entirety of 2009? It’s too bad I didn’t do anything to preserve that place, there was some gold there.

My blogging style has changed over the years. I used to be much more combative. That was partly due to having someone to battle with (twin) partly due to just being really pissed off at other shit (life) and partly not knowing how to tolerate other people having different opinions than mine. That last one is probably the greatest gift I’ve gotten from this place—developing the ability to tolerate other opinions (even dumb ones) without flying off the handle. I still fly off the handle on twitter on occasion but for the most part I confine my remarks to snarky comments. Even when I got banned on twitter it was total bullshit. All I did was tell John Hinckley Jr. he was a shitty musician and that pussy complained about that and I was in twitter jail for 24 hours. These days Twitter is really where I spend most of my *blogging* time although that’s not really blogging it’s just gathering information and sometimes commenting on it.

I know I’m going to miss this place when I finally shutter her doors. That’s one reason why I’m going to keep her available as an online museum. And that also gives me the opportunity to fire her back up if I miss it more than I think I’m going to. The biggest thing for me is that I helped create this community that has spread across the globe and into so many people’s real lives. Most people don’t usually a chance to have that much influence in the world around them. I really appreciate that.

The Dust Settled. What Now?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 5, 2022

I turned the radio on just in time to hear Miller say “and that’s 8 straight losses to LA, the first time that’s happened since 1979!”. If I heard that right, and I might not have, that’s wild. Both LA and SF were under .500 in ’79.

Tolbert and Copes were ragging on Giants fans on their show saying “I don’t remember anyone complaining about the off season moves.” And to some extent that’s very true. There was really no FA I wanted them to go get and even looking back on it now there’s no one I think Z missed on—or anyone who would have made a difference this year.

Re-signing Craw and Belt even had to get done. I wasn’t excited about it but I understood it. Shit, Craw had us all convinced that Kap’s team of coaches completely re-invented baseball for him. And while Bryant certainly hasn’t been missed he was productive last year.

And if you look at it that way, that they lost 44% of their hitter production just off those 4 guys not being here (including Posey, obviously). And you can say what happened to the role guys? But guys like Estrada, who was a great find, were never supposed to be playing every day. That’s not who they are.

So when you boil all that down the only thing I’m upset about is that Farhan didn’t trade Rodon. He would have been a nice #2 for a playoff team and I refuse to believe there was no value to be had there.

Even if you say “well SD hasn’t won anything despite all their bold moves”–that is true. But one thing they have done is given their fan base something to care about. God, how could you NOT want to go to the yard and see guys like Machado and Soto and a healthy Tatis?

If Farhan does anything different going forward he has to understand he’s got to add players the fans will care about watching. This is entertainment at the end of the day. Nobody is coming to the yard to watch Estrada and Wilmet hit and nothing else, I don’t care what their record is.

LA and SD have separated themselves from the rest of the NL West. That is fact.

Where do the Giants go from here? They aren’t catching up by rummaging through the dumpster in the alley.

Don’t Forget Gents, It’s An Even Year

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 4, 2022

All I can say is that I am so thankful that Z kept this powerhouse dynasty together. Can you imagine if he’d broken it up? I mean he did threaten to by jettisoning Ruf, Rosenthal, Casali and Boyd. But in the end he kept The Core together. Now all that’s left is for our meteoric rise to the top to commence……

If you’re Alex Cobb you have to be getting particularly tired of this shit show, right? He’s been great the last 3 starts and he’s got jack to show for it.

Today Has To Be Better Than Yesterday

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 3, 2022

Yesterday was tough. I can swallow Farhan not doing a big add-on deal. As I said, even with some creativity by packaging Rodon prospects with our prospects we didn’t have anything to include like Gore/Voit and the Padres just offered the better deal. But to not trade Rodon or Joc at all was just deflating, man. Why keep Rodon for 8 more meaningless starts? He has value, don’t give me this shit about *there were no offers*. Farhan did what he always does. He dumpster dove.

Couple that with the real life sadness of the passing of Vin Scully and Kat’s buddy’s wife…..then the Giants lose another game in this lost season….

it was just a very bad day.

We Continue To Lose On Every Level

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 2, 2022

I’m just disgusted with this Soto deal for San Diego. We DID have the prospects but SD adding Gore who has like 6 years of control left as a solid #2 starter was huge. We might not have had that capital in the end but being creative is what Z is supposed to be good at. So I will ask this, respectfully…..

What exactly is Farhan doing? I know he can dumpster dive but what else can he do? He’s just sitting on his hands watching LA and SD enrich themselves to ridiculous levels. What is he getting paid to do, exactly?

I’m just sick to death about all of this.

O.Jo Time, Baby

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 1, 2022

The most aware Flappers know I’ve been trying to win the dinner for 2 at Original Joe’s for quite some time now. Well, yesterday I qualified for the drawing.

The easy part is over. Now I gotta hope the drawing Gods smile down upon me.

One hour later. Update:

I won. I finally won.

Cobb Robbed

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 30, 2022

What a waste of an incredible performance by Cobb. I think it’s clear that Doval isn’t closer material. He might not even be *Penske material.

Will Clark day. No i’m not going (going on Aug 2nd tho). This # retirement should have happened years ago.

However if you asked me to post a single image of what baseball means to me it would probably be a picture like this…

Winning Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 29, 2022

Finally found a team we can beat. Sweet. I read Loo’s comment last night and couldn’t believe it. Joc is about to go oh-fer July. Zero bombs.

I will ask this again: is there a single hitter on this team who’s at bats you look forward to?

From 107 to 77?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 28, 2022

So who goes at the trade deadline? Rodon, Pederson, Yaz and maybe Doval? I wonder if Z will try to package LaStella’s terrible contract into any deal he makes. Buckle up boys, this could happen fast and furious.

Either that or Z sits on his hands when he finds out he’s got no takers for those guys.

Another Loss In Arizona

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 27, 2022

I still can’t get over that kicked bat by Rodon. Like, what did he think was going to happen? He was in a dugout with people in it. Is he a complete idiot?

Nothing left to do now except hope Z finds some buyers for some of our guys. I personally don’t see it other than maybe Yaz to the Red Sox, possibly Rodon somewhere. Nothing is going to bring much back. All we’ll really get is the satisfaction of saying goodbye to guys we’re sick and tired of looking at every day.

Remembering Better Days

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 26, 2022

Honestly don’t have it in me to even think about the Giants much less write anything about them. Enjoy this cool pic from back in the day.

Swept Out of LA

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 25, 2022

I’m disgusted with this team, their manager and the GM. So it’s probably best to just let Stix take this one today….

Carstie Clausen4:28 AM (1 hour ago)
to me

Flav:  Couldn’t sleep, so here’s my take.  -Stix

        How Low Can they Go?

 Getting swept by the LaBumbos in a four-gamer hadn’t happened in over two decades.  THAT was an abortion.  Complete collapse.  Plenty of blame to go around:  Atrocious defense. Flailing offense.  BBIP from somewhere in the twilight zone. RISP even worse. Team spirit flatlined.

 Couple days ago the MLB site featured a photo of a couple of the Dodgers stars gleaming and gloating.  Message of the picture?  “Ain’t we great?”  My take was $$$$$.  The Googenheimers are willing to shell out the Shekels like picking up Mookie Betts from a hapless Boston organization (shades of one George Herman Ruth getting sold off by the Boston owner back in the early 20’s because he needed money to fund an opera).  Then the free-agent acquisition of Freddy Freeman who had starred for Atlanta.  Meanwhile, the Johnson consortium has Zaidi up to his elbows sifting and sorting through the garbage, dumpster-diving on steroids.  Baseball’s #1 problem is systemic.  Ownership.  Half or more of them simply do not care.  Giants are front and center in that category.  “Money doesn’t talk, it swears”…Dylan.

Looked like Zaidi, Harris, the scouts and evaluators were building up a credible farm system.  Well yeah.  Richmond, Everett and San Jose are fielding winning teams and with a fair amount of genuine prospects.  But when it comes to Sacramento…Ramos and Hjelle. Previous upper management sure got them some doozies.  Logan Webb and Austin Slater look to be the only diamonds in a heap of coal.  Maybe Duval.  Bart even showing signs of life.

 Helluva season last year.  Led by the brilliant Buster, the Bore Core played out its last hurrah with those up from nowhere 107 wins.  Right now my pre-season projection of a 78-82  win-loss projection looked as airy faerie as this year’s supposition.  Team spirit is flatlining.  Longoria looks like toast and both the infield Brandons are looking somewhat similar to that other “Brandon” in the District of Corruption.  No there, there, quoting Gertrude Stein.  As for that city’s once vaunted team, now their superstar is up for grabs to the highest bidder.  They want a ton and then some…like Harrison, Luciano and +++.


 A certain #1 curmudgeon here on the Flap would have loudly grumbled “stoopid”.  That silly notion must have him spinning like a whirligig from six feet under.

 So where do we go from here?  Start with our could have had been Dusty Rhodes from the ’54 champs, Darin Ruf.  Some contender could sure the hell use an absolutely primo pinch-hitter and occasional DH and even a rare performance on the field.  It could require a three team deal if SF is seeking a high-quality reliever.  But I think he might just fetch an intriguing second-tier low minors prospect, at least a good contact hitter and defender.

 YaZmaTazz:  Would Boston like to run out the red carpet for a piece of family nostalgia for a competent right-fielder?  Unless the original Evil Empire quickly picks up Benintendi, the Sox might like to sock it to them by bringing home the grandson.  Nostalgia still has street-cred in baseball…particularly if the guy has a decent track-record.

 There are a lot of Post-Season contenders out there.  Surely one of them lusts for a proven product, even if an upcoming free-agent.   Rodon could bring in a haul, let’s say a AA starter with considerable promise, plus maybe a high-A reliever who has some chops. If Zaidi and Harris are good bazaar bargainers, maybe they could do even better, should there be a team which has a “win now” philosophy and figures they can  spare the cash before F.A. status kicks in.

 Would Atlanta experience a considerable eJoculation to get their storied Post-Season slugger back?  There would be an offer, perhaps one SF couldn’t refuse.

 Yeah, it’s re-build time.  Gather up some replacements.  Bring in a few of the kids from off the farm.  R.J. Dabovich looks to be one helluva reliever.  Doing just fine in Richmond after starring in Eugene.  He’s young, but could be ready to at least get his feet wet by exposure to The Show.  A few quality appearances and he could turn into a fixture.  Our bullpen has turned into shit.  But that shit is well dried.  Maybe needs a spark.

 Now as for management on the field.  We sure could use a Casey Stengel, who committed a lot of magic from bursts of intuition.  Or John J. McGraw, much more of a Giants heritage than Stengel.  Seems like almost all the Flappers are getting pretty leerry of Kap on the head.  Too much mix and match on the basis of L-R stats.  I’m sure both Pederson and Belt are seething about the disrespect.  Would appear that juggled lineups and a mishmash of relief roles has got the whole squad in a tailspin.  Giants should have won at least one of those four in LaLaLand.  Some of that flailing and failing on the field could be resultant from a vibe of uncertainty.  Ballplayers are conservative types when it comes to roles and positioning in the lineup.  This season there’s been waaay too much of that.

 My expectation is walking papers handed out by October…if not sooner, should upper management be well attuned to the attitudes of not only the guys on the team, but also to the fan-base.

No Relief in Sight

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 24, 2022

Bordom oozes from this team. There isn’t a single player I look forward to at bat. Not one. All the false excitement about Bart last week was funny to me. People want this guy to be competent so badly. Since his home run last Fri where Krukow declared this guy fixed he’s 2-15. Next.

The Dodgers are beating us with almost condescending ease.

Drag Of A Game

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 22, 2022

Last night was exhibit A of why we need to fleece Al Avila of his best bullpen arms. Give them whatever he wants it doesn’t matter. Everything Avila wants turns to shit.

What a waste of a nice offensive game from us.

Del Mar opens today.

Time To Pile Up Wins

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 21, 2022

RIght outta the gate we get LA. We line up our stud Rodon. It’s odd they are starting White. I mean, they could have juggled their rotation for this series. It’s almost disrespectful to the rivalry to start this dude in Game 1.

Del Mar starts tomorrow, gents. Oh my. Wish i could be there. No better place in the entire world than opening day Del Mar in July…..

That Was Not Good

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 20, 2022

I didn’t see the final inning but i don’t think a single steal was attempted last night. Am I right? In a meaningless game why wouldn’t you at least try to jazz up a very boring game with some steal attempts? It was fun to see those pitchers throwing 100+ but otherwise that game was lame-o. Even the pick off by Kershaw, he literally lobbed it over there and everyone was like “Wow what a move!”. LOL. He lobbed it like a tee ball coach.

The Trevino mic’d up inning was the highlight for me.

Big Papi and his obnoxious “look at me” act was the lamest.

All Star Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 19, 2022

Anyone care about the all star game tonight? If it weren’t for the dozen or so draftkings teams I put together I can’t imagine caring about it. When I was a kid it was everything. Guys I’d pretty much only seen on baseball cards not only came to life on my tv but they were PLAYING eachother! I was rivited, glued to the screen.

Now, just like everything else in the world, all these players are completely overexposed. My interest in seeing guys I see all the time play a game tonight is…..low.

Was rooting for J-Rod last night. He had a much tougher path to the finals than Soto who cruised. I think the HR Derby should be at night. It was hard to track where the balls were going with natural day time light.

All Star Break

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 18, 2022

What are we on pace for? Like 80 something wins? After watching him for 3 years I think the obvious flaw in Farhan’s game is that he gets too cute with his moves. Not everything has to be a goddamn dumpster dive. And when I look at this team I just see a boatload of slow DH’s. Can’t win with this team or that approach. Hopefully he breaks out of this mindset a little in the off season and makes a move that’s at least one standard deviation away from the garbage can.

Let’s Go Rory!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 17, 2022

I am consumed with my coffee and Sunday at St. Andrews. Therefore, it’s Stix time. Settle in, you’re gonna be here a while….

Carstie ClausenJul 16, 2022, 9:01 PM (8 hours ago)
to me

Flav:  A few takes from this mini-streak.

                                                                                                        The Big News

  Maybe he’s channeling his inner Buster, but it is looking more and more that Joey Bart is finally stepping into his own shoes.  He’s finally getting himself grounded, both as a hitter (in baby steps so far) and as a catcher.  He managed Leone to throw his heat and a subsequent special K.  That in the books ,he promptly threw a bullet to Longo who tagged out Davis who “misunderestimated” Bart’s arm.  After that one-two D.P. Joey had a look of total confidence as he and Dominic performed a man-embrace, celebrating a winning combo.

  Maybe Casali’s trip to the Injured List was somewhat of a blessing in disguise.  Perhaps Bart had come to realize that, yes, Posey’s superlative inner management of the team added up to some big shoes to fit into.  Again, it would appear that Bart is in the process of winning his spurs, to really mix a metaphor with those spikes and “tools of ignorance”.  Donning his shin-guards after Friday night’s dinger, our catcher silently sent a message. Giants have desperately needed some pep pills as the season seemed to be getting away from them, what with all the floundering and flailing.  When your catcher…cue Buster once again…begins to run the pitchers and solidifies the infield, the team develops a sound foundation.

 Singles are important too and now that Joey has shown that he can power some taters, his learning process can ramp it up a notch or two  by going the other way on balls he cannot successfully pull.  Sometimes opposite field doubles can be the sweetest surprise a couple of baserunners can receive.  Consistently hitting MLB pitching has been a long learning-curve for Bart.  Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if when he’s stepping up to the dish with bat in hand, he’ll be striding rather than just meekly stepping.  Keep an eye on his movements.  In baseball, like all sports, self-confidence is a winner.

 YazMaTaaz:  That walkoff salami Friday night put a charge into the team and into the growingly bored and frustrated fan-base.  Tonight’s magic was a bit difference.  Most of us felt that lightning could never strike twice under identical circumstances.  Well, it sure didn’t.  But the magic still happened.  Gustave’s balk while facing Yaz with three bags full brought in a winner.  As the most keenly calibrated of all major sports, baseball also has this air of magical momentum and serendipitous  surprises. 

Vegas odds-makers could never have projected that almost anticlimactic finishing touch on the scoreboard.

 Villar went 0 for 0 tonight, albeit while drawing three walks.  Whether its his batting eye or some form of luck or maybe hocus-pocus, Villar has been drawing walks like the squeaks of a mouse draws cats.  Check out his stats as a Giant.  His OBP is waaay up in the high .300’s while he “sports” a B.A. in the 220’s.  Interestingly, his hits include three X.B.’s, a double, a triple and a homer.  I like him.  Think he’s gonna stick. Versatile. That fits Zaidi’s pattern perfectly.  A little early to be sure yet, but he may well become a fixture.  Kapler keeps putting him on the lineup card.

 Cobb outmatched his mound opponent tonight just like Burnes slightly overmatched Rodon.  He was extremely economical in his pitch count.  Efficient.  One unearned run.  With both the Alexes of the rotation apparently coming around after a few rougher outings, things are looking up for the starters.  Also a positive that Rodon opted not to go through the travel and hoopla of the All-Star extravaganza.  He’s been quite the opposite of Cobb’s performance tonight, as his pitch-count mounts and mounts.  Though those strikeouts keep on keeping on, he ends up throwing a mass of pitches and is pretty challenged to go seven.  Webb:  After a sputtering start compared with last year’s pure magic, he’s getting back into his jut-jawed mastery.

 Junis is back.  Kapler will likely work him in a bit gradually.  Maybe he goes long relief or more likely a three or four inning starter.  A solid five man rotation provides a solid base for post-Break baseball.

Looking to be the strength of the team early on in the season, the bullpen has become an unmitigated mess.  McGee is kaput.  Gone.  Rogers may be on the brink of riding off into the sunset on Silver.  Then there’s the injuries and almost always, the inconsistencies.  Even more needful than a Brandon Drury trade (not a bad idea at all) are a couple of reliable relievers, one as the Fireman and the other in set-up/closer roles.

 The oft derided farm system contains a potential gem pitching now for Richmond after a very nice run for Eugene.  Last time I checked his stats in those two upper-middle leagues they looked promising.  ERA of 2.78.  Eighteen hits over 27.2 I.P., one whole home run, seven bases on balls as against 38 special K’s, a BAA of .176 and a WHIP at a scintillating 0.90.  What’s not to like.? Expect him wearing orange and black no later than September.  Name of the exciting relief prospect is R.J. Dabovich.  Nothing quite so comforting as a quality homegrown bulley.

 Will the Giants win the Sunday matchup and take the series, or end up going 2-2 against a closely matched opponent?  Remember “Big Mo”?  Momentum.  A Sunday banquet and I’ll go out on a limb and predict that the team has finally begun once again to feel it’s oats and will be a buyer rather than a seller over the next 2+ weeks.


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 16, 2022

One of the problems with being addicted to The Open—you miss games like last night’s. When you go to bed at 8pm for a couple quick cat nap hours there is a price to pay. I had to watch that glorious ending on mlb.com.

What a game.

I wish Kuip still had to voice to make those calls but he just doesn’t anymore. A grand ending like that, he would have used his most booming of voices. That’s ok at least he’s alive.

Giants Lose, Open Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 15, 2022

Tough loss. It’s 2am and I’ve been watching The Open for the last hour. Better get the thread in now. This is easily my favorite major. There’s something methodically hypnotic about watching a ball bound down a hard, brown fairway—this is a place where luck and strategy form the perfect partnership.

Scheffler just banged in a 15 foot birdie.

Anyway, it’s the best.

Shades of 2010/2012/2014

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 14, 2022

Sorry for the late thread. I got up at 2am to watch The Open and I needed a nap.
Anyway, that’s how we did it back in the Championship years. Fun to get a whiff of that again.

Snakes Paying Us Back For Last Year

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 12, 2022

I was hanging in there till LLovera Boy took the stage. That band got tired in the 80s

At least Cobb made it through 6 for the second game in a row.

That’s something I guess.

Take It Away, Stix

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 11, 2022

It’s been a while since he guest-posted.

Carstie ClausenSun, Jul 10, 11:56 PM (4 hours ago)
to Flavor

Flav:  It’s been a confounding and confusing several weeks as the Giants prospects have seemed to be on the edge of going down the Big Swirly.  So here’s my present take.

  Shit or get off the pot.  That is the question.  With the apparent collapse of the bullpen, the offense and the defense, all adding up to a seeming crumbling of team morale; the question of whether the Giants should be sellers instead of buyers during the great garage sale looming with the trade deadline fast approaching.  A sell-off of valuable pieces for a combination of replacement parts and quality prospects appeared to be in the works right up to this series in San Diego.  Today’s 12-0 humbling of the Padres, featuring a complete game gem by Carlos Rodon and a full-on 17 hit attack by a virtual exclusion of the “Bore Corps/Sore Core” ,is giving me second thoughts.  After those first two defeats by the Padres, a sell-off appeared to be the only logical approach. Now, just maybe, it’s time for re-consideration.

 Positives:  Though we ultimately lost Webb’s sterling performance to yet another bullpen breakdown and shaky defense, as well as Machado’s three-run opener against a non-rotation starter; game three featured an excellent start by Wood and then today’s Ace performance by Rodon, whom several suspect once again reached his peak to enhance his trade value and a huge salary resurrection.  Cobb’s latest start was a major improvement over his post D.L. re-entry efforts.  Jacob Junis looks to return in a matter of days. So all of a sudden, the Rotation solidifies.  Also, soon to possibly begin earning his 6M salary, Boyd looks to return in a short while.  So just maybe, the Giants have them a reliable rotation.

 Second positive was the first explosion  in many a week of base-hits, including Wilmer’s pair and Thairo’s blast, from just about right across the lineup.  Villar may not be the flash in the pan which so many of the dumpster-dive acquisitions proved to be.  He simply was a much overlooked 11th round choice of the Giants, who no longer could be kept quiet down on the farm.  Hell, even Bart got a piece of the action.  Yaz did his thing and Gonzales keeps upping that batting average, continuing to prove that Zaidi’s pickups include a genuine gem here and there.  Slater is solid.  He sports the second highest OBP right after Pederson.  Another much overlooked development of the team’s evaluation, scouting and farm system.  Wynns has a surname that simply begs for some surprise clutch delivery before the season concludes.  A walkoff RBI would make for a nice headline:  “Wynns it for the Giants”.

 Maybe team morale has finally gotten past that extreme case of the heebie-jeebies.  Just maybe, but hope does spring eternal even though half the season is in the books and the All-Star game is upon us next week.  With an uptick in team spirit, it may be in the books of the future that those deadly defensive lapses will quieten down.  Wait and see, I guess.

 Needs:  The big one is fairly simple.  Bullpen.  McGee has been dropped like a hot potato and Littell is back to Sac-town.  Fortunately for the Giants, there is a virtual host of decent to really good relievers who will be on the market over the next three weeks. Generally speaking the price should not be prohibitive.  High-end prospects are almost never sacrificed for bullpen help…even for late-inning effectives.  Some of the “going nowhere” teams, such as Detroit and Cincinnati sport some pretty good late-inning specialists.  MLB Trade-Rumors just posted a listing of no fewer than 50 possible trade availabilities.  Close to half of them are relievers.  Giants need two reliable relievers…plain and simple.  Maybe even three.

 Could be that the “Bore Core” vets will not have to carry a heavy load.  Occasional starts and pinch-hitting roles may suffice for Belt, Crawford and Longoria.  Ruf’s value is mainly as a pinch-hitter and occasionally as an outfielder.  Perhaps if some team with even a slightly above average first-baseman, maybe now likely to be replaced by a hot rookie, could be had for the price of a second-line prospect and a throw-in, a guy who would also be good to go for next season, could be added to two or three bullies.  It might be a tall order to pick up an overlooked spark plug.  What I’d like to see in an added hitter would be a high OBP guy who hits a lot of doubles.  The team is weak in that category.  Guy could hit sixth, right after the Enforcer.  Today’s RISP record looked decent for a change.  Gotta keep that line a-going.

 Kapler needs to get his shit together when it comes to that over-analyzed, data-driven right-left pinch-hitting situational mania.  Addition by Zaidi/Harris of two or three quality relievers could relieve the manager of incipient hemorrhoids or something similar. He needs to study up on Casey Stengel when it comes to managing by the seat of his pants, as well as intuition.  Maybe he has that capacity, maybe he doesn’t .  If not, “hit the road, Jack” if he keeps on over-managing.

 Splitting the series with the Dagos tells me that with a few adjustments, this team is capable of getting it’s act together and at least become a spoiler come the Post-Season.

Can We Do This?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 10, 2022

You know, with Rondon and Webb we really do stand a chance to make the post season. Disco is gone (thankfully) and Wood still needs to recapture what he once had. And goddammit Cobb really does have great stuff. I had counted on Matt Boyd to help this year and I’m not giving up on him yet and Junis is serviceable if he can get healthy.

I dunno, I woke up unusually positive today.

Could our starting pitching get us to the post season?

Baseball Sucks

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 9, 2022

Tired of the Giants.

Let’s talk coolest Niners. You guys got my Niner love going last night with the Rathman talk. Without question the coolest Niner I ever met was Tom Rathman. He was a fixture at the Bay Meadows clubhouse in the off season back in the day. Totally approachable, just one of the guys, he loves horse racing. Bobby Bonds was there all the time too but he spent most of his time on the porch smoking cigs. And he’d never talk to anyone when he was inside. But Rathman? Just an awesome dude.

Speaking of football I read an article the other day, I can’t find it now I think it was in the Chronicle, that said flag football is inevitable. All football will be flag some day except pro and I didn’t really understand how that would work. Like you’d play flag growing up and through college then all of a sudden go to tackle in the pros? Didn’t make sense.

Piling Up The Losses

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 8, 2022

Well another horrendous ending. At least we were competitive this game though in a rather boring way. My main man Luke made the trek down for the game.

San Dawg had 4 tickets to the game but had to ditch them as he has to go to a wedding up here this weekend….

Luke said the stadium is quite handsome in person.

Peeing In Their Pool

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 7, 2022

Keeping in mind the competition and the obvious unfillable holes we have on our team that was a nice comeback win on the road. Pride and energy were both on display.

Lots of trade ideas gonna get proposed between now and the deadline. If they give up, it’s gonna look like Loo’s Smith/Andujar pick ups. GH wants Josh Bell but that’s only if we go for it and pay through the nose–an unlikely move.

I do trust Zaidi in situations like this. He’s got an eye for talent and if he wants to wheel and deal at the deadline I’m all for that. As was the convern when it happened, when you re-sign oldies like Craw and Belt with no one behind them in the system you’re going to need to find their replacements via trade and free agency. Z, go do your thing.

When Reality Finally Finds You

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 6, 2022

How stupid were we last year? Just a bunch of giggling dunderheads agreeing with everything Farhan and Kap did. “I don’t get it but these guys are geniuses man! Everything they touch turns to gold! Bat paths! Woo Hoo!”

Reality has hit hard this season. It turns out you can’t just plug a bunch of shitty castoffs into your line up and win games. Huh, who knew?

Honestly, in a way I’m glad this happened. Hopefully Z hasn’t gotten so big for his britches that he can’t admit there isn’t just one single way to build a winning team. I’m worried though that he’s so stuck in “A’s Mode” that he can’t do it any other way. And ownership probably loves it. Spend no money every year, that’s great for them.

Anyway, this is who we thought they’d be last year.

Travis, you’re a year too late….

Who’s Going To Step Up?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 5, 2022

It’s interesting to hear Kap and then Rodon go public with their calls for more energy and a different attitude form the team. In the “old days” that would never get said. We’d just hear about how these guys are pros, they’ve been here before, never get too high or too low, etc…There is some truth to that in baseball. It’s 162 games, you don’t need to blow your entire load every game.

But I do think there is too much “trust the process” with this team. They won 107 last year. That’s great. We knew then they weren’t really a 107 win team and I don’t think anyone thought they’d win close to that this year. But now everyone just seems to be looking around waiting for something to happen. Belt/Crawford/Longo….those guys are NEVER going to be the guys to shake up a team with their energy or an attitude change. It’s not who they are.

So…..who’s going to do it?

Happy Fourth of July!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 4, 2022

July 4th is my favorite day of the year. Not because I’m overly patriotic. I am to a point but I hate approximately 40% of the people who live here so it’s not really about the flag flying though I do love those colors on this particular day….

But really, it’s just an awesome day. Sun. BBQ. Community. Baseball. Hell, Joey Chestnut. I love all of it. Katie and I are going to a town picnic today, I hope you guys do something that makes it a great day.

Kokonuts and I play wordle together and text eachother our results daily and I was lamenting how random the words have been lately and the convo turned to our Giants.

Still Losing

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 3, 2022

Just a quick new thread to give you guys the opportunity to kick around how terrible this team is. Have at it.

Another AL Team

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 1, 2022

The White Sox are one of those low-key AL times I alway kinda liked growing up. Chet Lemon. Lamarr Hoyt. Great names. Didn’t they have Rusty Kuntz too?

Of course they inexplicably re-hired the terrible Tony LaRussa making them currently and completely hateable.

Anyway, Chicago is predictably playing underwhelming baseball with the usually drunken LaRussa at the helm. Countering that, we are playing terrible baseball.

No idea where this series goes…..

We Suck

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 30, 2022

Well, at least we got one…

I don’t have the biggest problem with the fact we only scored 6 runs against the Tigers, they actually have a very good bullpen. But what I can’t tolerate is that the worst hitting team in at least the last 10 years (possibly more) outhit us in our own yard 19-14. That’s embarrassing.

We are going to look back on that 107 win season someday and not believe it happened. It must have been a dream. But how could we all dream the same thing, we’ll say.

I am actually starting to hate this team right now.

Woo hoo?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 29, 2022

They got a win. I mean, barely, against maybe the worst team that MLB has seen in a decade (or longer). This season already feels like a tired grind and it’s not even July yet.

Beatdown Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 28, 2022

Ok we saw what we do against the NL’s worst (click at .333 win %) and now we get to see how we do against the AL’s worst. But man listen, at least Cinn can score runs. Detroit is truly pathetic. They’ve scored 216 total runs this year. That’s so far last the terrible A’s, who are in 2nd to last, have scored 240 absolutely dwarfing them.

So Rodon should absolutely shut this team down tonight. No pussyfooting around. Wipe them out.

Seeing Red

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 27, 2022

Two Wins. Four Losses. To the team that is TRYING to lose games. How do you click at a .333 win percentage vs a team TRYING to lose games?

Also, this: Disco died twice. The first time in 1980 and then again in 2022. The Giants can’t keep running that joker out there. He’s an auto L.

We Suck Worse Than The Worst Team in The League

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 25, 2022

Making a note “cannot beat the Reds”….

I’m not ready to call what the Bore Core did an anomaly. I do think Kap’s coaches helped these guys with *bat paths* and all the other new age stuff. Maybe the extra year of life is just the beginning of the end for them. They certainly LOOK old. Hey, it happens. It’s weird that the bounce back year and the shit year are something they are doing in tandem but the facts are, they look and are old.

Sent To An Early Grave

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 24, 2022

I’m really gonna miss that dude. Not so much for the bat but definitely the nickname and how funny it was to tout him and watch so many Flappers freak out about it. Sadly, Gonzalez has really made GD unnecessary at this point. But speed goes a long way, even in a Hell, and that’s exactly where many of you will meet up with our hero again. If you ever doubted his powers, even for a second…..you’re doomed. Sleep soundly for now but a fate far greater than a trade or even a DFA awaits you….

He Sees Numbers

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 23, 2022

The biggest problem with a numbers guy like Kap is that his decisions can go spectacularly wrong on a game to game basis. And that’s extrememly frustrating for fans who live and die on a game to game basis. The bottom line is, I think we’ve seen all the evolution we’re going to see from Kap. He’s changed a lot since he was managing the Phillies, and all for the good.

But when it comes to pitching decisions, man buckle up, he’s going to continue to frustrate the bejesus out of us.


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 22, 2022

Busy day today. 12-10 win yesterday.

Let’s get another one!

Forgettable Loss

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 21, 2022

Outside of Webb’s solidification of his general studness that was just kind of a “meh” game. The bats don’t have the magic they had in them last year. Losing Posey and Bryant will tend to have that affect. I see a lot of low batting averages up and down the line up. And the bombs we hit with such regularity last season, they are fewer and farer between.

Still, on pace to win 90 and that should be fine to get us into the dance. Another deft mid season pick up by Z (hopefully a bat or two) will have us singing “a song, a real song”, deep into the post season.

Celebrate Good Times, Come On, It’s a Celebration

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 20, 2022

Anyone going to the parade today? I’m not a parade guy but if you go send me pics.

Roadie continues, today in Atlanta.

in an attempt to console MacDog I sent him this:

but it turns out that wasn’t correct:

“It’s just unbelievable,” Suwinski said. “To do it on Father’s Day with my dad here, I know it means a lot to him and it means a lot to me, just the amount that he’s done for me. He’s always been there. Just being able to share that, knowing he’s here, it’s awesome. It’s hard to describe.”

I’d say Suwinski has wrestled the NL Rookie of the Year lead away from our boy Gonzo

MacDog’s Day Off

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 19, 2022

MacDog sent me some pics from yesterday’s game. That park really does have some incredible landscape views. That was an entertaining game, bring home another W today Mac!