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More NY Failure On Horizon

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 14, 2022

Gonna be very surprised if the Yankees can pull this off. They have a very Met-sy feel to them. Of course it is Cleveland and I’ve never seen a team from that cow town that I didn’t dislike. Still, for this series, I can root for them.

Hoping to get an update from the Great San Dawg on the vibe in San Diego tonight.

This Popped Up On My FB Timeline Today

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 13, 2022

Enough said. Still, and always.

Stupid Move

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 12, 2022

Only thing there is to say about that Ray move in the 9th is that if you’re gonna do that it had BETTER work. He’d come in as a reliever 1 time in 10 years. Unacceptable. And it’s not like they were bringing in prime MadBum. Ray got lit up last week by Toronto.

I don’t know, managers outthink themselves sometimes. They all want to be Bruce Bochy.

But there is only 1.

Baseball Is Back Baby!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 11, 2022

I was so accurate with the first round (1-3) I’m sure you’re all anxiously awaiting this round’s predictions.


Who you got?

Back In….First Place!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 10, 2022

Easy win against an inept offense. Or maybe that’s just how our D made them look? Credit to Jimmy who was fine, he avoided the tragically stupid 3 plays a game he usually makes that we have to overcome to win.

No baseball today? What the hell?


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 9, 2022

If you didn’t like the Mariners before I bet you like them now. Wow, what a fun game to watch.

NFL today, I don’t have a feel for how the Niners will do but assuming they will have to rely heavily on their defense and some Baker miscues.

Four Teams Who Immediately Have Their Backs Against The Wall

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 8, 2022

I must admit I enjoyed watching Scherzer gets smacked around. For no real reason I’ve never liked the Mets. And I think Showalter and all his stupid rules are pretty played out.

Another thing I enjoyed about the games yesterday (despite the lack of runs scored): every team has at least a few hitters in their line up that I get really excited to watch in the box. The Giants don’t have a single hitter I get excited to watch in the box.

Farhan has a LOT of work to do.

Still Win With Pitching

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 7, 2022

Team ERA rankings for the post season teams:


That surprised me, I guess, since we are so conditioned to believe this is a blast-off league.


I am simply astounded at how bad Russell Wilson has gotten seemingly overnight. And fans will turn quickly against him. He’s got probably the fakest personality in the league. If he’s going to suck too, man, he ain’t gonna stand a chance in that town.

2022 Post Season

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 6, 2022

Thankfully, Macdog has gotten to the bottom of this 1975 mystery and figured out why we only played 161 that year…..lqtm. See? This is why the Flap is so great. I honestly went to sleep wondering about that and this morning I get an answer.

Let’s take a look at the post season bracket and kick that shit around for a while seeing as how the 2022 post season is gonna be the Flap’s swan song. In terms of *winning it all* I typically go against teams with the best records in baseball just because this isn’t like the NBA, literally any team can beat any other team. But this is the wild card. There is no dominant record team. Seattle is the easy underdog pick in the AL, I think they’ll get past Toronto. By the way, whoever gets to play the Yankees will probably beat them (due to my theory above). I don’t have an opinion about TB or Cleveland except that I’m rooting for TB because I hate Cleveland’s fans.

NL wild card is trickier. I’m gonna say St. Louis gets by Philly and the Mets take care of the Padres. I honestly don’t even know how the Mets lost the division to the Braves, they are the better team. That’s actually a pretty decent reason to take the Padres to be honest with you. But no, i’ll go with the Mets.

So I’ll take TB, Seattle, St. Louis and The Mets.

How do you guys see the WC shaking out?


Also, today is my twitter birthday. I am not sharing my *big day with anyone on Twitter. Just here. What does that tell you? 🙂

The Last Game

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 5, 2022

Just sat down with my coffee like I always do to try to figure out a topic for today’s thread. They usually come quite easily to me. And then I realized this: today is the FINAL Giants game. Wow. We been at this site for 13 years, let’s say that’s 2100 games or so. Throw in another hundred post season games or whatever….

And today is the last one.

I just checked and today is the 4,235th thread at the Flap. How many of those were about the Giants?

A buddy of mine this weekend said “the site says ‘a place to talk about Giants baseball’. Why don’t you just talk about that? Why is it often about other stuff?”

I had to properly admonish him. This place started as a place to talk about Giants baseball and then it grew, organically, into so much more. I miss all the recipe talk. And while I think most of you have borderline terrible taste in music (The Beatles still suck) and I can’t stand the youtube videos that clog up the thread I love that you guys like kicking around music topics. Or any topic. The Flap is like your neighborhood bar….

Simply put, this place has become it’s own community. It’s not really about the Giants anymore. It’s a place people come to be a part of something. And part of me is really sad that I’m taking that away…..

But, the old cliche is true, nothing lasts forever. Let’s have a blast with this final post season with or without the Giants in it. And talk about whatever you want.

That’s how we roll.


there is no better or worse goodbye, but this one made me smile.

pawliekokonuts said, on October 5, 2022 at 2:16 pm (Edit)

The Last Lineup: A Valediction (Not a Waltz).

Batters up. We have waded through low and high, surmounted valleys and mountains. Our driest desert blossomed into florid hope just as JD translated to Just Done, Joyful Dream, Jubilant Days. And as yes morphed from Yaz, so we were slated to craw a last goodbye as the afternoon sun blinded the batter but not our memories. Oh, we basked in a villa of victory three golden times (actually, infinitely more, beyond measure, above analytics). No one proctored our journey as we forded raging rapids, never bartering with Fate, never succumbing to blank despair, bravely bubbling within the brevity of this short life. Ars longa, vita brevis. Ars longa, the long goodbye. The everlasting shadow. Adios, Flapota!

Niners Defense/Deebo Carry Us To Victory

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 4, 2022

Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Deebo’s epic td run to glory almost didn’t happen. That ball was an inch away from being tipped by the CB and likely run back for a pick 6. But, thank god that didn’t happen. It was a typical terrible throw from Jimmy but not one of his worst ever.

The Giants lost a positively forgettable game.

Regarding Twitter— I totally respect not participating on that site if you think it’s the cause of many evils in the world. But it isn’t all bad. It’s fantastic for gathering information quickly. Is there disinformation? Sure, but you’d have to be an idiot to not see the difference between the two. Facebook is awful but I like seeing pics of people I haven’t seen in 20 years. So it’s not all bad either.

Just follow the people you want to follow and you can bypass most of the bullshit.

Final Home Game In The Books

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 3, 2022

Got to catch the final 1//2 inning yesterday on the radio. Miller and Flem were joking about how the Giants needed the auto runner to finally get someone into scoring position. A walk and a couple of ground balls later, we secured the victory.

I think it was Loo who recently said something like “this year is utterly forgettable with literally no memories.” Think about it. It’s true. It’s like this season never happened.

In the comment section below, without thinking about it for more than a few seconds, list off your 1 or 2 favorite memories for this season…..

If you can’t do it say that too.

Still Winning

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on October 1, 2022

Another win. Another day we aren’t eliminated. Both the teams in front of us won, at this point they’d have to lose out and us win out to get there. Not even really worth thinking about but we need a thread, right?

Still. Not. Eliminated

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 30, 2022

It’s wild to think we can be 30 GB the Dodgers and still STILL have a shot at the post season. 5.5 back with 6 to play. I’m assuming Milw and Philly would have to lose their remaining games and we’d have to win out but I don’t know that for sure and I’m not checking on it.

Gonna be out of town this weekend, I’ll probably manage daily threads but if not now you know why.

Legit 107

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 29, 2022

Dodgers won number 107 last night. Now that’s a team that is a genuine powerhouse. I will live the rest of my life not understanding how we won 107 last year. I hope Farhan has learned something. I guess he was in a bad spot with Belt and Craw and they had to be re-signed but to just continue his dumpster diving ways and do nothing else is going to be really hard to watch going forward. Even if I don’t have to write about it anymore.

I thought this was a cool tweet that some of the oldies at the blog would appreciate.

Boring Final Week

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 28, 2022

Not that this matters to us, but it is odd that there is only 1 divisional race remaining with a week to go in the season. I wonder how much that has to do with teams waving the white flag early on trying to win their division and just shooting for the easy to make wild card?

For the record, we still aren’t elimated from the final spot. Win out and put ALL the pressure on those in front of us! MUHUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Where Do We Go From Here?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 27, 2022

After a day to chill I’ve softened a bit on my Jimmy G stance. He is who he is. I am not over or underwhelmed with him. I am *properlywhelmed*. We are lucky to have him as opposed to some no-name back up with no experience and no talent.

Jimmy is pretty dim and if he doesn’t get the ball out immediately the play is probably fucked. But he can do some things.

The bigger issue to me is why Deebo, Kittle and Aiyuk are never open. Why can’t the Great Genius Shanny get these guys open? And Deebo in the backfield is as played out as burnt toast. Every time he’s back there he gets the ball. Think that’s a tell to the defense?

There Are Not Enough Swear Words In The World To Describe That One

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 26, 2022

2:06 left. First down. Three timeouts left. All the time in the world to move 20 yards or so and kick a game winning field goal to send Russell Wilson back to Corny Town or wherever the fuck that loser is from.

What does Jimmy do? With all that in his favor he throws a PRAYER into blanket double coverage.

That was the dumbest thing I have ever seen that motherfucker do and he does at least 3 of the dumbest things I have ever seen in my life every single game he plays.

That one hurt. All the horrible feels of a Jimmy G start came back like a tsunami running me down in an Indonesian town. Jimmy G may not be the worst but he is most definitely the dumbest.

What a disgusting awful loss…….

Niner Sunday

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 25, 2022

Pretty stoked for the Niner game today. Denver has eclipsed Cleveland as my most hated sports town with the addition of Russell Wilson to the Broncos. For both of those cities it’s really more the fans I despise but all those years of Wilson ruining my Sunday’s at the last second has vaulted Denver to the top.

I was surprised to see Yaz has 15 home runs. His season has not felt that productive.

Go SF!

The Newest 700 Guy

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 24, 2022

Doval threw a ball 104 last night. I don’t care if it wasn’t a strike, that’s sickening. You can sacrifice a little location when you throw fire like that.

Congrats to Pujols on 700. I vividly remember scooping him up off the waiver wire back in 2001 when I still played year-long fantasy and he carried my team to a glorious season victory.

Carlos Rodon

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 23, 2022

Rodon has been brilliant this year. He leads the league in FIP which both shows how much value he had at the break AND is a great reason to resign him in the off season. Still, he’ll be 30 next year. That could be a tough contract to swallow.

It’ll be interesting to see how he’s used in these last 3 starts. Do they limit him as they did Webb because they think they’re getting him back or do they push him to his pitch limit and possibly beyond? Could be a tell either way.


The GREAT TedSpe showed up last night, presumably to say goodbye to this place. Besides being a Flap HOFer he’s one of the guys who saved the Flap 10 years ago from being torched with his heartfelt posts. He’s got some epic POTD’s in the Flap HOF

tedspe said, on September 22, 2022 at 9:50 pm (Edit)

Glad to see some of the usual gang of idiots still around. Makes one believe in…something

Newest Owner

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 22, 2022

Buster Posey has joined the ownership group. Mr. SD speculated he bought 3% my guess is that was closer to 1%. To me this is a straight PR move but there’s certainly nothing wrong with having Buster associated with the team.

Kudos to all of you who are still watching the games, that really impresses me.

Another Win

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 21, 2022

Got a win yesterday courtesy of all our aged and boring players. The new guys, man, what can you say about them? Hjelle has given up 25 hits in his last 4 appearances. Some how 3 of those 4 were relief appearances. That is….astounding. He’s supposed to be one of our hot prospects…..

Matt Duffy hit a home run yesterday for the Angels. MATT DUFFY. It’s amazing to me that dude is still around in some capacity. Slow, weak and injured his entire career but he’s got longevity on his side for sure.


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 20, 2022

I know this isn’t a big deal. In the scheme of things there are other things to focus on. I get that he’s only had 2 hits in 20 at bats this season. He looks like probably a misfire of a prospect, at best he needs more time down below. But I do not get, on any level, why you send Heliot Ramos back down in a lost September just to bring Austin Slater back from the DL.

What. Is. The. Point.

Let Down Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 18, 2022

I’m just totally bummed about this Trey thing. Watching him this year was like the ONE thing I was looking forward to in terms of the NFL. Yeah, sure, I love the Niners but I am a firm believer that Jimmy’s best days are behind him. He’s ok. He’s better than what we were going to have backing up Trey and that’s why I supported the signing. But he’s impossibly boring and infuriating to watch.

My interest in this season going forward is pretty minimal. I guess if they keep winning that will fix my mood but I personally hate watching Garrapolo play (love his professional team first attitude, though).

Yeah, this just sucks. And I 100% blame Shanahan for this.

Baseball Sucks, Let’s Go Niners!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 18, 2022

Normally the Dodgers using us as a tune up for the post season, and still beating us quite easily I might add, would irritate me. But not today, gents. Today is for football. It’s raining outside. In September. This is very weird. Anyway, much like this early rain I can’t remember an earlier must win game in a season than this one. I am definitely AGAINST the idea of benching Trey if they lose this game but the vibes are out there. He’s gotta win or else. High drama in rainy Santa Clara today……..

And….it’s over

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 17, 2022

If we win out we get to 87 wins. That still likely doesn’t get us in. So, it’s September 17th and I shall now declare the dream dead.

The Dodgers are +323 run diff this season. That is insane, I wonder what the record is?

(LA)me Rolling Into Town

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 16, 2022

LA this weekend, sans the pomp and circumstance of a September race. They clinched the division in, like, August I think. That’s hilarious and sad at the same time. Decent chance they are going to have a very hard time getting sharp come playoff time.

Webby tonight.

At Least We Got A Keeper

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 15, 2022

Why isn’t Doval the best closer in baseball? Nobody has that kind of stuff. I wonder if he’s got focus issues or something else?

Dodgers got walked off by a rando last night. Gotta love that.

Atl 5 SF 1

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 14, 2022

Not much else to say. Just running out the string.

A Win and a Loss

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 12, 2022

Not the way most of us wanted the NFL season to kick off but at least we took a win out of Chicago!

I’m not sweatin’ that Niner loss. Way too many variables stacked against Trey, he has to get better from that.

NFL Funday

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 11, 2022

Had a fabulous time golfing with these gents yesterday. Heard the Giants won a game finally. And today the 49ers begin their march towards their 6th trophy.

Make it so.

The Giants Suck But Stanford Does Not

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 10, 2022

Playing Stanford today, gentlemen. Very excited. Hoping the Giants improve on the 3 hits they got yesterday vs their old *pal* Drew Smyly. Come to think of it I’d be happy with as many 3’s today as I can muster.

Boredom in Milwaukee

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 9, 2022

18 innings. Seven hits. Seriously, if any of you watched all 18 of those innings more power to you. I wonder if there is anyone out there who has watched every inning this season. There has to be, right? I’m talking about someone who never missed an inning because of a bathroom run, someone that has Apple+ tv or whatever it’s called, I’m talking about every goddamn inning.

I can’t even imagine what that would have been like…

Changing Of The Seasons And The Sports

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 8, 2022

The Giants are playing in Milwaukee. That’s about all I have to say about that…..

NFL is back, baby! I’m into it mostly for the draftkings games but the Niners seem to have a legit shot, at least that’s what everyone keeps saying.

I guess we’ll see!

On The Ropes

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 7, 2022

Ouch. Post season chances took a big hit last night. Plummeted from 1.1% back to 0.6%. Starting to feel a slight sting. That’s pride fucking with me. Some say pride only hurts it never helps. Fuck that. Play for pride. It’s about all we got left….

Raining Wins

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 6, 2022

The article I read online this morning began “With nothing left but pride to play for, the Giants defeated the Dodgers…..”
Hey, whoa, wait one godamn minute! A quick check of the standings show that our post season chances jumped from 0.6% to 1.1% with that great victory at The Latrine.

If we win out I’d like to fucking see them try to keep us out of the post season.

So, win out. Why not?

Well, that is a lot of games to win. Win as many as you can.

Not Dead Yet

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 5, 2022

With all the hoopla surrounding Flightline’s astounding victory I haven’t given enough credit to the Giants for their nifty little 3 game sweep of a pretty good team. Our chances of making the post season have now soared to 0.6%. Starting to get a little excited? Feeling anything down in your plums? I’m talkin’ bout all the way down in yer plums….

Let’s take this wonderful fortuna and continue to spin it upward in LA where our march towards .500 continues on….


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 4, 2022

I’m not sure how many times I’ve watched yesterday’s Pacific Classic. At least 25. Those weren’t some chump horses he demolished those were Grade 1 champions themselves. Even if you don’t like horse racing you know how to appreciate true greatness. I haven’t seen anything like this since what Secretariat did in the Belmont lo those many years ago.

Agree with Loo, Trevor’s “Let’s see” stuff was tired. Just as he is. Trevor Denman in his prime was one of the best ever but that time has passed. Would love to have heard Larry Colmus on that call….

Changing Of The Seasons

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 2, 2022

There is so much hype surrounding the 49ers upcoming season the Giants have become an absolute afterthought in these parts. I just drove to work and all the morning show guys were talking about college football and this media-invented riff between Jimmy Fabulous and Trey Area. There isn’t anything there. Niners are in a great QB situation this year. I wish they would always go into a season with a competent back up.

Philly in town. Apple tv+? WTF is that?

Our September Run Begins Now!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 1, 2022

Thank God we held on to Rodon for this I can’t imagine how difficult it would be without him.

Also, we are now tied with the lowly D-backs for 4th place. We might have tied them a day or so ago, I wasn’t paying attention.

We had hoped for better in this final year of The Flap but it was not to be….

At least we still have Rodon.

Losses Piling Up On Top Of Losses

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 31, 2022

Well, at least Joc has gotten it going a little bit of late. The rest of this offense is just an embarrassment. Remember when Yaz was this crowning coup of a pick up? His last two full seasons, 800+ at bats, he’s been absolute crap. Who cares how much control you have of something if you’re controlling crap?

Final Flapalooza is a good idea but I just don’t see it happening. I can’t even get my shit together to take advantage of Marty’s OJ dinner. Told him I’ve got to push it out to at least mid October. He said “whenever is fine.”

So let’s see if something changes but right now I don’t have a weekend day that will work for the rest of this season.

He’s Back!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 30, 2022

I’m totally diggin’ the Jimmy G move. He’s got the temperment to be the back up. And let’s face it, our OL is nothing to write home about. Starting QB’s get hurt. That’s a fact. Do you guys want Nate Dumbell starting games? Bill Walsh would have done something like this—maybe not this exact move because Bill would have run Jimmy out of town last year, lol. But he would have figured out how to have a good back up for Trey. I don’t see Jimmy as a threat at all, just a nice insurance plan.

JG is just gonna be chillin’ on the sidelines looking magnificent, blowin’ kisses to dem ladies, Trey goes down he swoops in and wins us a few games then heads back to the bench blowin’ kisses to dem ladies. It’s perfect.

Minnesota Massacre

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 29, 2022

One thing I haven’t missed in the last week are the Kap pre and post game shows. How infuriating are his comments? He usually goes way out of his way to say absolutely nothing. Is he saying a lot of “To your point”? Oh, wait, that’s Farhan’s favorite thing to say.

All I can say is that I hope there is a lot of looking in the mirror this off season. I can’t support watching this boring ass team again next year.

Walked Off in Minnesota

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 28, 2022

I can’t think of anything that headline reminds me of. I’m just glad I didn’t have to watch that mess. More golf today, we are leaving the friendly confines of Black Butte and heading to Bend.

Have a great day, Flappers. Time for at least a little redemption with a win against one of our former allies, the withering Aaron Sanchez…..

Bent Over In Minnesota

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 27, 2022

Another headline subtly referencing something that might have happened in the underbelly of an after hours Minnesota tavern circa 1975?

Anyway, our march back towards .500 took a big hit last night…

Read last night’s comments just now.

I haven’t heard a peep from anywhere about Kap losing the team in any way whatsoever. Maybe I’ve missed a story on that? That would be unlikely. Did a story on him getting tuned out by the players come out in the last 24-36 hours?

Look, we stink. We have 2 reliable starting pitchers, a leaky bullpen, porous defense and, as Tolbert threw in Zaidi’s face the other day, no middle of the order at all. Getting to .500 should be our World Series this year. It’s the best we can hope for.

Zaidi starts Year 5 of his reign next year right? A clear direction for the franchise needs to unfold starting next season. Right now we just have a bunch of the same underwhelming dudes doddling around out there and a minor league system that doesn’t seem to be offering anything at all………

Sticks Swinging Time

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 26, 2022

Yikes…that headline reads like a group sex scene from the underbelly of an after hours Minnesota tavern circa 1975…..

Ok gents, I’m in Black Butte, Oregon for a while to play golf, re-set, and not think about the Giants too much. As it is the waning days of this fine institution I will attempt to put up a new daily thread but if I don’t you know why.

Here’s a pic from last year, 10th tee Big Meadow. That’s my main man Chris, otherwise known as bird dog when he posts here. Of course the grand ol’ girl herself sitting majestically in the background.

The Tigers Are Beating Us

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 25, 2022

It’s just hilarious how we are either all-out to beat Detroit or we straight up just lose to them. They are the worst offense in the league and in some statistical categories they are historically one of the worst. Webb looked great until the wheels fell off. Didn’t really matter, we weren’t doing anything with the bats. This is going to go down as one of the most frustrating, boring teams in SF Giants history.


Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 24, 2022

Back to .500 baby. Our watershed number. And now we got ace #2 teed up! “Rodon and Webb, then pray for Feb”. It’s got a nice ring to it.

We aren’t out of this.

So You’re Telling Me There’s A Chance…

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 23, 2022

Ok, can we please wipe the floor with Detroit this series? We are better than them. Just do this. No fiddling around, just do it.

I see we have a 2.9% chance to make the post season.

I’ll take those odds. What else do I have to do?