Full Steam Ahead into Cincy
I still can’t get over that trip through Pittsburgh. I’m still going with Franchez hitting that grand slam on Sat night and it was a clean sweep to me. The come backs were nice but the 2 things that shocked me were 1) who was contributing and 2) how Bochy managed all 3 games. I’m glad I got on the Torres Bus, however sheepishly, a month ago. This guy is proving to be one of the rarest major league players around: a guy who doesn’t blossom until his early thirties. Just pray his legs hold together and we have got our leadoff hitter for the rest of the year…….
Bochy showed no fear of ruffling any vet-feathers. Molina and Rowand aren’t going to have all Summer to stumble their ways out of their slumps. I don’t think pulling Wilson was a message to him, I think he’d thrown 35 pitches and Bochy just thought it was time. Wilson is our closer through 2012. He might get a break if he’s really awful but he’s our guy. The ship sails or sinks with him at the helm……
Quick Bryce Harper thought: lose the eye black, chump. Until he ditches that ridiculous look he’s nothing more than a circus freak…..
Thoughts on the draft today? It’s tough to get too jazzed about pick 24. I’ve said this before: Sabean’s total focus on the draft for the rest of his time here in SF should be on drafting HITTERS. He can’t get the FA’s to come to SF but if he drafts them they HAVE to play for us. We’ve got pitchers to burn and when we run out of those it’ll be a hell of a lot easier to get a FA pitcher to come to SF than a FA hitter……
ROOM B explanation: that’s Michael’s baby. He’s got free rein of the room whether he chooses to re-post on of your posts there or put you on a list there. try and have fun with it everyone, that’s what it’s *supposed* to be….
A Place To Talk About Giants Baseball 
Speaking of late bloomers, how about Casilla?
Baggs writes:
“But there is reason to believe that Casilla could be a more consistent presence for the Giants. He said he always had trouble with his slider, so he learned to throw a curve over the winter and it’s been an effective pitch for him.”
Learned to throw a curve at 30?
Baggs goes on to say Casilla has a 21yr old brother pitching well at Augusta. Nice prospect.
re: eye black … I was wondering what *that* was … all the way down to his jaw? Really?
If I’m pitching against him I hit him just on principle until he washes that bullshit off. By the way, MrBillBill/DPaintings– twin is much better than I am at getting prizes out in a timely manner. I’ll get on it this week…..
I don’t feel good about a “Room B”. Agree or not, I think even a Gringo has a right to post what he says as long as it’s coherent and not over the top insulting (Flav’s call there). Most here disagree with him pretty strongly, on a regular basis. So what? Gives us something else to talk about, and usually the reasons for the posts have solid stuff to say in response. As long as the personal stuff is left aside, it’s good baseball talk and good reading. Sometimes this is the most fun I have all day.
I really did like the end of game lineup, tho I’d add Posey at C to: Ishi, FS, Uribe, Pablo, Huff, Torres Nate. I had heard Rent was going to be out a little longer…any more news on that end?
Don’t follow the draft much. I think for a hitter I prefer the college guys (preferably one thats also played in a summer league with wood bats). From the little I’ve read the Giants would seem to do well with that Cal State Fullerton inf Christian Colon or the Middle Tenn. OF Bryce Brentz.
I’m not a big fan of the Room B concept either, but one thing that sorta does bug me is what I’d call the “doomer strawman argument” that pops up once in a while.
The Doomer strawman argument is the one where after something positive has happened, the Doomer makes up an imaginary negative scenario, like:
“Yeah we won today, but if the Giants send Posey back to AAA tomorrow, Sabean needs to be fired!”
“Yeah we won today, but if we lose the next 15 in a row, we’re in trouble!”
Well, I wasn’t holding my breath, but was hopeful for taking two of three from the Bucs. Nice series…good to get a series win against a team that we have historically struggled with (I have not idea why the hell we have struggled beating Pittsburgh in the past).
Nice to get a win on the get-away day, and roll into Cincy with a head of steam.
I was out all weekend, so this is the first I have seen/heard of the Room B. My sentiments pretty much match those of WillieD. Unless someone is just being a blatant asshole and ripping on someone (complete over-the-top ripping), let ’em post.
Draft – would love to see the Giants draft a position player, who at the 24th, just surprises the hell out of all of us in a few years.
Yeah, it’s early (only 5 games), but here’s how things are projecting for the June contest:
Wins – 16, Runs – 108, Bombs – 22.
Fuck…wish we could delete/edit our posts…still half-way through the first cup of coffee and the brain is foggy and the fingers are fat…
The Doomer strawman argument. Never heard it put quite that way, but I like it.
Yeah, we won yesterday, but if the Giants don’t get a top 5 prospect with the 24th selection today, we’re fucked in the year 2014.
Zumi – agree on the dooming. I try to think of myself as a somewhat balanced fan (not over-the-top polly, and will call the team, management, etc. on the carpet when I think it appropriate). But, I am certainly a more “glass half-full” fan (yeah…go ahead…call me a polly all you doomers…I could give a rat’s ass.
I’m going to let the Room B thing run for a bit, see how it ends up looking. No one’s posts are going to be getting deleted. If you’re not down with the Room B page then by all means, don’t click on it~~~~~ 🙂
Hey Flav, who was that guy on the Splash that had those late night rants with himself? He was kinda funny in a very, very weird way. Anyway, that guy would have a blast in room B.
I heard Mychael Urban (not a huge fan, but he does bring up some good topics on occasion) this weekend on one of his pre-game shows, and the topic was what to do with the 5 hole. As the rotation is currently set, Wellemeyer is slated to pitch the last game in Cincy. His take was to bring-up Martinez for a start. I like the idea…Martinez has started putting it together. His current stats:
5-2 (11 starts), 3.07 ERA, 1.262 WHIP.
I just don’t think the team can carry on with Wellemeyer in the 5 hole. And, as much as I want to see MadBum up, I don’t think now is the right time (hot/good hitting team, in their bandbox ballpark). Let Martinez come up for one start and re-eval. I think Wellemeyer should be kept for mid/long relief.
Thoughts?
On a lighter note, just finished a good read on a depressing topic. “Amigoland” is by Oscar Casares, a novel that revolves around a nursing home (the title) in southern Texas near the border and the activities of a 92 yr. old “inmate”, his younger brother and the younger brother’s gf. LOL funny one liners, interesting perspective on life at 92.
Finally, a series win in Pittsburgh! Last time that happened was in ’07, when Giants won the first game, the next two were rained out and they returned later in the season and split 2. The last time they won a series all in one shot out there was ’05. So yeah, those Bucs are always a pain in the ass.
Weird stat: Giants had more walks (7) and stolen bases (5) than strikeouts (4), and as many sac flies. Wonder when’s the last time that happened?
Willied, good post, i.e., I agree with you in regard to “Room B.” I do “get it” that it is all in good fun. However, we are also all serious Giants fans here and personally, I find it denigrating to “isolate” or hold up to ridicule anyone who posts here. No problem with the attitude of “agree to disagree,” but any name calling or putting any Giants fan in a Room B “dungeon, cell, hell, etc.” goes beyond the pale . . . Let’s put it this way, would you say or do some of the things face to face, that you occasionally see on the internet (e.g., blogging)? Personally, I think not . . . Sort of similar to being cut off in traffic and flipping off the person and knowing that you will never see that person again.
I’ve spoken to others via email about this and they agree with the aforementioned, but may be reticent about posting their feelings here out in public. I hope the right decision is made about this issue . . . Enjoy your day.
Go Giants!
Chi, I wouldn’t mind seeing Ironhead/Jersey Joe give it a try in Cincy. But Baggs did have this in his blog the other day:
Well, Joe Martinez is coming off a complete game for Triple-A Fresno Friday night. He’s also done better against left-handers recently, holding them to an okayish .277 average. But the Reds have a lot of left-handed thumpers and I’m not entirely convinced the brass would feel good about that matchup.
Even with all that, could Martinez be any worse on the road than Wellemeyer?
Baggs suspects Bum will get the call but I just don’t see it. The Giants are all about giving their prized arms a home debut start. Granted, he had some starts last year. I dunno, the one thing I can’t see them doing is running Wellemeyer out there again……
but really, our problem isn’t going to be who pitches that game. I suspect the Reds are going to hit our SP like no one else has done this year. Jay Bruce is a monster who’s about to explode. If we can’t hit with these guys we’re fucked.
None of the alternatives could be any worse than Wellemeyer now. Would be a bit strange to see Bochy (and the FO) go hog wild with all of these changes in June and yet not change the one thing that really needs changing. Send him to the BP. If Martinez flies into Cinn. to pitch Thursday and Bum arrives in SF for the homestand, whither Martiinez then? Why the hell not Bum in Cinn. first? Too challenging for a starting mlb pitcher? Right. He showed poise, good presence on the mound when he got called up last year. Let’s move on from the Wellemeyer disappointment and give Bum another shot.
Mac – that’s my thoughts…how could Joe be any worse than Wellemeyer. I definitely agree with Urban that it would not be good to bring Bumgarner up for the Cincy series. I think Martinez is the best candidate at this time. Dusty sure as hell has his team playing well.
Should be an interesting series. Cincy leads the NL in team BA, and SLG, and are second in OBP. They also lead the league in HRs. Pitching is middle-to-lower half of the pecking order at 4+ ERA.
I’ll be happy as hell with a split (4-3 roadie), but 3 of 4 would be fantastic. I do think they’ll split this series, though.
Had to see the Bryce Harper deal. Christ, what a tool. But hey, he was born in Vegas. Some high heat should scrape some of that fake moustache off . . .
If they are loaded with left handed bats, then Bumgarner might actually be a good choice.
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Got to thinking about our dynamic 1-2 and the past. Do we have to go back to 89 and Butler/Thompson to find as good a duo hitting at the top of the order?
xoot – I just like the idea of Marinez for the Cincy series. And if he pitched well, then I think you consider him for another start. I want to see Bum up, but on the flip-side, I see no reason to rush it. Let him get a few more starts…continue to build his confidence, and then give him a start at home (where the odds are much better in his favor). I just think it is the smarter way to handle the situation.
I agree — it’s a real delight to watch Torres and Sanchez at the top of the order.
Bum won’t have the stamina the seasoned starters have. He’s ready now and they’ll get the most out of him in July and August. Martinez will always be waiting in the wings, if necessary.
June, too, of course. 🙂
I agree with y’all that there’s no way Welle can make that start in Cincinnatti. He has an ERA of 10 on the road.
Who should start Thursday in Cincinnati? Simple. It’s the same answer as it should be any other day. Who gives us the best chance to win that day? You have three choices; Wellemeyer, Martinez or Bumgarner. If you answered with either of the first two options, you’re either ignorant, or don’t give a shit about winning.
Madison gives us the best chance to win Thursday. He should start.
Yeah bring up the kid and be done with it. Still I refuse to get all pushed out of shape over the fifth starter.
Not down with the Room B concept. Too much like ganging up. Cute but no salute.
Game 4 in Cincy is a poser and may not get resolved starter-wise, till deeper into the series. I’m not ready to speculate on how Zito matches up with Reds hitters, though he was putrid in his more putrid past. Still, there’s a lot of LH power there. My money would be on Matt the Horse getting it done. Drrrrty strikes me as a slightly better LH bet than Zito to win his game. If somehow SF wins two of the first three, SP in #4 is gonna be either Wellemeyer or Martinez. If Giants take one of the first three, it may well be Bumgarner. Desperation shot and three down and i think it would be Martinez.
Molina’s Zero for 4 in yesterday’s box stuck out like a freshly circumcised cucumber. His was the one bat that failed utterly. Hope Bochy has the brass to start Buster at C. today and bats him sixth. This would be the series to go cleanup or 5-hole with Pat the Bat. My impression of his being signed was precisely for bandbox stadiums against stick-heavy teams. Riverside and its Reds are the archetype. He might should start in all 4 games, mainly because of the matchup. Huff, Sandoval, Uribe, Rowand and Torres are all good candidates to go yard in that joint.
Most 4 game series, even on the road, teams will at least hope to win the set. Bandboxville is one exception. Split series would be a huge victory and would mean a winning road trip. If i were asked to guess for the best chances for W.s, it would have to be games two and three. Giants win those two and my prediction of Bumgarner getting the callup for the Orioles game on the 15th holds.
I lose an avg. 6 1/2 hrs./wk of sleep fretting over who should be our 5th starter.
I really need to prioritize my concerns in a more healthy and productive manner.
With Bum, the Giants would be sending out 3 lefties in this series. Might help slow down the Reds attack a bit…We know they kill RH’ers.
WTF: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1aTrKKEiz2A/SjfokEmIcmI/AAAAAAAACCQ/YmpN87rkt44/s400/bryce-harper-verducci.jpg
Who does Harper think he is??? Randall Mcdaniel
Del Mar – “You have three choices; Wellemeyer, Martinez or Bumgarner. If you answered with either of the first two options, you’re either ignorant, or don’t give a shit about winning.” Bullshit. I care about winning as much or more as the rest of the Giants’ fans on this blog.
If my only choices were Wellemeyer or MadBum, then yeah, I go with Madison. I just see no reason for putting that pressure on the kid at this point. Let him get his first start at AT&T. Martinez gives them a chance to win. To say that any choice other than Bum shows ignorance or a lack of desire to win is bullshit…it’s just a different opinion.
Not crazy about sending out our upstart youngster against the Reds big hitting LU in their joke of a park, but I have to agree with Dennis, he gives the Giants the best chance to win. It shouldn’t matter what they do in the 1st three games. All the wins and losses count the same. If MadBum is our best shot to wing on Thurs, they need to start him. Then again, he’s had a better chance of winning than Wellemeyer for at least a month now, and he’s still in Fresno. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
Chi, if you’re worried about “putting that pressure on the kid at this point,” maybe he’s not the right choice after all. He either can pitch or he can’t. Road or home should have no bearing.
If we win the first two games of this series I go ahead and run Wellemeyer out there again. It would be extremely unlikely that we sweep this team in their park no matter who’s pitching. ANd, after Wellemeyer gets bombed, he’s clearly gone for good. Who knows? Maybe we have another 12 run game in us and we win 12-10. I don’t see any reason to run Bumgarner out there in Cinn. No matter who we send out there is going to get hit hard, why have Bum’s first trip back to the Bigs end up a loss/him getting hit hard? Send him out at ATT…..
Let’s see. Bumgarner pitches Thurs., gets shelled in a band box and thinks, whoa, better get my shit together. Or, Wellemeyer pitches, gets shelled and thinks, well, nother day, nother dollar.
The kid needs to pitch against big league hitters to develop. Tender psyches belong on the DL diagnosed with nonspecific anxiety disorder.
I think we’ll just change up the concept of Room B so you fucking pussies don’t get all freaked out. Just keep this in mind: you have zero rights over there: to free speech or anything else. Here, post what you want and know that the rest of the fuckwads will agree with you that Bruce Botchy is an idiot and you’re a genius for saying so. There, expect to get your head handed to you…
So here’s the deal: The SUBJECT will be my choice of a Room B ballplayer, sports figure, politician, celebrity, WHOEVER, of the day ( or hour). I’ll post my take on it and you go from there. Nothing is sacred. Nobody is sacred. If you don’t like it, don’t go there. We’ll talk about what a pathetic dipshit you are behind your back then. In Room B…
But individual posters will not have posts dragged there or be ostracized to the hovel, you have spoken on that and Mikey listened. You are free to be an embarassment to your family, friends, and loved ones without further comment here…
Look…I understand your points on MadBum…all I am saying is that I would prefer that his first start in the bigs this year be at home. There is more chance for success there, and that in and of itself could be a huge confidence boost. And I think confidence is important for any pitcher, but can potentially be more important for a young pitcher who you are grooming/developing. We can agree to disagree on the MadBum thing.
Its pretty easy for you all to say “Hey throw him out there” sink or swim….. Especially with none of your jobs on the line… Sabean is the one that if Madbum struggles, everyone will blame him and question him for bringing him up, on the road, against one of the best hitting teams in the NL, in a hitters park…. Its one fucking game at the end of a road trip…. who cares of Wellmeyer gives up 10 runs in that game…. If he does DFA him and see what Joey’s got… if he pitches well let him hang on a couple more starts until Madbum is deemed ready……
And Chi is right….. confidence is a HUGE thing when pitching…. just look at Zito… anyone think he magically became a better pitcher???? No his confidence is up and he is not worried about having a bad start….
At this point, every pitch Bum throws for Fresno is one less he throws for the Giants this year.
Hell the same thing seems to be true about Wellemeyer, on the road! :O
Decap, which is why it certainy looks like they won’t risk Bummie out there in Cincy. Joe has a bunch of starts under his belt, he sorta knows he’s just there for the one start, and he can just take a ‘what the hell?’ attitude.
Bummie, as the latest phenom, could very well get his confidence shattered if it becomes a bomb-fest out there.
Even if the Giants are going into the game 0-2, I don;t see MB pitching.
But then again, am I ever right?
“just look at Zito… anyone think he magically became a better pitcher????”I think most would probably hope it doesn’t take the BumMeister three fucking years here to do that… Tim’s FIRST start ever was at home-and he got bopped around real good by the Phillies. I don’t buy for one second this “coddle theory”. Bumgarner is ready, you don’t bring up a lesser prospect to save Madison the horrible career threatening ignominy of being beaten on the road. Get fucking real. Even worse is the dumb fucking idea of sending Wellemeyer out again as a sacrifice to the Big Red Home Machine- if I was putting people there, the whole lot of you ” Baby the Bummie” crowd would be spending a lifetime changing diapers in Room B…
The only sensible course of action is the Twin-sanctioned way: Wellemeyer DFA, Bumgarner starts Thursday…
Chuckles, I won’t put you there, the other pussies have requested that.. but I’d like to request that you be my Room B point dummie. Would you accept the call? Don’t think of it as demotion or an embarassment, think of it as a career move. The guardian of the gate, so to speak, the devil’s assistant, the vice fuckwad… for example, since no one may be ostracized for idiocy, I can merely suggest that they “see Chuckles in the other room”…
The point wasn’t that it took Zito three years or not, its just that he has it now vs the past three years…. And that confidence does matter with pitching… and whether its coddling or not, having your 20 yr old pitcher get rocked in his first BL game this season just doesnt’ seem like a move they are going to make….
How ’bout those Mets?
So, does Pat the Bat get his first start as a Gigante in Cincy? Proposed LU if Burrell starts:
Torres – RF
Sanchez – 2B
Pablo – 3B
Huff – 1B
Uribe – SS
Burrell – LF
Posey – C
Rowand – CF
Zito – P
(Or play Nate in RF and move Torres to CF.)
That last post of mine made no sense at all. Delete that piece of crap. Put it out of its misery.
I say you let Wellemeyer throw batting practice to us, not the Reds. If he wants to earn his million then he better come up with a blister on his finger real quick.
Hey Chuck, can I get a window seat?
“You have three choices; Wellemeyer, Martinez or Bumgarner. If you answered with either of the first two options, you’re either ignorant, or don’t give a shit about winning.”
The second option isn’t a bad idea, but you’re right, Bumgarner, being a lefty AND a decent hitter, gives them the best chance of winning on Thursday. Which m,eans of course, Wellemeyer will get the start. BTW, if Rowand and Molina are both in the lineup, it’s an ideal situation for batting the pitcher 8th.
Actually, if the Giants are 0-2, this means they’ll probably go with Wellenhead, regardless of his road record. Vet presence and all that.
“who cares of Wellemeyer gives up 10 runs in that game…. ”
Uhhh, I do, and you *should* if you truly care about this team winning. This notion of ” Its one fucking game at the end of a road trip” so that makes it OK to trot out Wellemeyer once again is utter horseshit. Fuck that! We’ve seen enough of his shit. They start Wellemeyer on Thursday, and I seriously question the Giants commitment to winning.
And WTF happened to the font size? Either Flav changed it again, or my Lasik surgery is beginning to wear off.
News flash…every game counts, even the ones that Wellemeyer loses.
Look, Mike, regardless of all the blathering about coddling and all that, I still don’t think they give Bum his 1st start in that crackerbox in Cincy. The Tim sitch was different. Ortiz got hurt and they needed a pitcher. Hence Timmy. It fell on a home game.
Hey, I’ll man the asylum. As long as Dennis comes along as comic relief . . .
PS. Other pussies? If I catch yer drift, that puts you at the top of that list.
I’m delighted that you’ve accepted the assignment, Chuckles. And I’m sure those sentiments are echoed by the many victims, uh, customers, of ChuckleFux Construction… and yes, you may refer to me as the Chief Pussy, Head Fuckwad, Top Dunderhead…
AttackDog Phrase of the Day:
” I totally owned your Grandma!”
font size hasn’t changed since last Fri Denny. The reason I think it’d be ok to run Welly out there is because I think it’s unlikely that we sweep this team. If we won the first two games I give us a small, small chance of winning the third. And if we’re swinging the bats well in Cincy why not try to outslug them in their own yard? I don’t think Bum would offer us THAT much more than Welly, it being his first start and all. He’ll probably be nervous and shit and walk at least half as many as The Todd……
From Henry:
Posey catching, Bengie sits:
Torres CF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Huff 1B
Uribe SS
Burrell LF
Posey C
Rowand CF
Zito P.
I like that line up– getting Burrell in and Molina out strengthens two different parts of our offense. That’s like a 25% increase in production. therefore, we should score 5.5 to 6.2 runs today. Follow any of that? me neither but that’s what I’m going with. Giants win 7-6…
A whole lot of extremely unclear thinking on the Wellemeyer/Bumgarner thing. For one, it’s not a three game series, it’s FOUR, Flavor. And you’ll all do the world a favor if you discontinue your lame attempts at psychoanalysis and what a loss might or might not do to Bumgarner. More relevant, if you want to go that route, is what Wellefuckingmeyer is going to give them KNOWING he’s in the Doggbreath Motel soon, regardless of his efforts. Get on with the Bummie Era and get on with it Thursday…
Like the lineup. Just wish we could get Rowand on the bench too and have Nate play right and Torres in center. It would be good to have that speed in the middle of the outfield to make up for the lack thereof in left.
I’m easy to please when it comes to the line-up these days. There are really only five names I insist on seeing every day: Torres, Sanchez, Uribe, Huff, and Posey. Whoever else Bochy wants to throw in there to fill out the batting order is fine with me.
I’m also fairly ambivalent about the 5th starter. Bumgarner made such a bad impression on me during spring training, that I’m not sure I have any more faith in him than I do in Neidermeyer or Martinez.
At least you didn’t say “I totally RUINED your grandma . . .”, Mike.
Hyuk.
Love the lineup. Good to see Bochy playing it right by sitting Molina. Posey needs to get comfortable behind the dish.
The point about Bunnie IS, why give the kid his 1st start this year in a very hostile environment, in a fricking crackerbox no less? Sure, he might be ready, but hes waited this long, might as wait one more turn. Or if they don’t go with Wellenhead, they go with jumpin’ Joe Martinez.
Edit, EDIT!!!
Bunnie?
San Dog, you don’t want to see Pablo in the lineup everyday?
I’m fine with Pablo in there every day, but I don’t insist on it they way he has been going.
4 games? Got it, we so rarely see the 4 gm series anymore I just saw Welly in the third game and figured that was the last one. I suspect the Giants are with me on the psycho-analysis side of this. I will be surprised if Bum’s first start ISN’T in SF but we will see…..
I just don’t think it’s the end of the world if Welly gets one more start. I suspect all FOUR of our starting pitchers will suck it up pretty good in Cincy…..
Molina’s riding pine and watching Posey get comfortable behind the plate. Burrell (a surly SOB according to Jenkins) starts in a park where his numbers are great, even though that may hurt somebody’s feelings. There’s no coddling going on in the Giants’ clubhouse right now. The fragile psyche of the youthful pitcher is gonna get battle tested no matter where he joins the team. And where’d you come up with that fragile psyche fantasy, anyway? Does he have a dear diary blog somewhere . . . .?
Looks like you get your wish, Chi.
Torres RF
Sanchez 2B
Sandoval 3B
Huff 1B
Uribe SS
Burrell LF
Posey C
Rowand CF
Zito P.
“The fragile psyche of the youthful pitcher is gonna get battle tested no matter where he joins the team.”
Where did we get the notion that Bumgarner’s psyche is “fragile”? Great pitcher’s get hammered all the time and bounce back. It shouldn’t be a bfd.
He’s been up before. I think he will handle it all in stride knowing beforehand that this is a tough lineup and a tough park. If he’s got what it takes, he’ll relish the challenge and pitch his ass off.
And if the Reds rough up Zito Cain andor Sanchez a bit, perfect time to throw Bum out there.
didn’t get to see/hear any of the games, family functions in Fernley, NV. Did here that Wilson blew a save, but got the win. Is that an oxymoron?? Anyway was listening to KNBR this morning and they were glad to see that Bochy was not babying the vets, if they don’t produce someone else plays. They thought Bochy is sending the message that he wants wins and if that means benching vets he will do it. The Wellemyer story, he can’t win on the road? Well if memory serves me that was Ishi last year and that is supposedly why they got Huff?? and if that is the case then bench Wellemyer and bring up Bumm. or put Wellemyer in the pen.
My gut is they go with Welly one more time. Martinez is the back up plan if they feel like they just can’t tolerate another shit outing from The Todd. I will be shocked if Bum is even on the board in terms of what they might do……
Home or away, how could he have more pressure than last year when he made his REAL first start, replacing Timmy no less, in the middle of a playoff race? If you recall, he pitched well and left with the lead. Yes , it was San Diego but the point stands that you baby coddlers are outta line.
I don’t know. My gut’s the opposite Flav. It’s not just that Wellemeyer had another shitty outing but he seems to be getting even shittier, if that’s to be believed