Down 5-1 in the bottom of the fifth….
Timmy hits Kemp. Everyone is saying the right things about this: “No WAY was that done on purpose”. But I don’t know. It was 5-1, Lincecum was pitching badly, frustrated, and just about done for the night. Maybe he hit Kemp to fire up the team. Maybe he did it for Rowand. Maybe it wasn’t intentional….But whatever the reason, the team came together at the moment. Total puss-reaction by Kemp, by the way. He did like a 6 step half circle toe dance to nowhere. Sandoval charged in like a tiger…….
And then……
Sandoval’s double in the 6th……
Bautista and Casilla somehow dragging and scratching the team through 3.1 innings of scoreless ball….
Rowand’s sacrifice…..
Mattingly’s blunder and Bochy’s keen eye……
Torres’ double….
Posey muscles a single…….
Affeldt? AFFELDT!!!!!!!!
wow. And I’m still LQTM…….
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It’s just the wrong fucking day to be bitching about two guys who contributed to the win. Reeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllly dumb. About the only guy who played who didn’t contribute was Timmy.
I’m not bitching, just correcting you for praising two medicore players as “playing huge roles” in a victory they were merely coincidentaly a part of.
How can you say Timmy didn’t contribute when he started the whole bean ball shenanigans that led to the win. Granted, he was the one who directly contrivuted to them being behind in the first place, but he definitely contributed to the come back.
It is highly questionable we make a trade or not. But if this team wins the NL West it will because Renteria, Burrell, Rowand and all the other role players will contribute.
Mark my words, as one that was down on Renteria since the trade, he is going to have a couple big at-bats down the stretch and I have the same feeling about Rowand. If these guys come up short in those key situations, we could very well lose the West. So I am wishing them all well because they will all be needed to step up!
Good kharma…..”OOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM”
Sweep the Fucking Bastardos!
that’s utter bullshit that Timmy didn’t contribute. If anything, you could give him credit for the win. That is, if you believe the Kemp beaning had something to do with the team coming together for that rousing comeback (and I do believe that was the catalyst)>…
After sucking rocks for 2 1/2 seasons, Rohand puts down his first sac bunt EVER, EVER for the Giants, and he’s a key contributor to the big win. Timmy pitches a sucky game after 2 Cy awards, but plunks a bluey to jumpstart the Gmen to a great comeback win, and he’s a non-contributor to the win. Utter Nonsense….
Well, the dropped fly helped. (grin)
Tim sucked last night. If you can’t admit that, get on GringoFuck’s pole and wait for the reaper. Hitting Kemp is what was “coincidental” to the rally. The performance of the pen and EVERY position player won the game. Timmy got a much deserved reprieve but he was the reason they HAD to rally.
Tim sucked from the first at-bat to Furcal. Really bad performance. Zito should hit Blake and then when they retaliate, Billingsley will get tossed then we get to their bullpen….
And GHead is totally correct: Rowand and Rent will both contribute down the stretch. As will Velez, BTW. Good decision on him over Bowker. They need the speed off the bench. Before they only had Nate. Rowand deserves plenty of criticism but it’s totallty amazing how he’s about the only guy that gets dissed WHILE he’s contributing. He had the huge HR on the road trip, was 5 for 16 in his last 3 starts, and had the crucial sac last night. Again, if FACTS mean any damn thing, the way Bochy has spotted him has paid off. They are 5-0 in his last 5 starts.
Jesus fucking Christ! This is the best, most exciting win in, ohhh, the last 7 years, and you guys bitch about the role Rent and Row had in it?
“Yeah, if Babe Ruth was on the bench, he would have homered instead of Rent’s measly little RBI single . . .”
What’s the fucking point? They WON. In no small part, due to their contributions.
Enjoy it and move along.
The Giants are facing Barbara Billingsley, so Schierholtz/Torres/Huff are your OFers, Ishi, Sanchez, Uribe, and Panda are your IFers.
Jesus and Bubble Boy are your battery. . .
Makes more sense that Kemp getting hit only helps the Dodgers. And Rowand getting hit would fire up the Giants.
But really, does it really? Did the G’s get fired up when Padilla took out Rowand? The reality is, X Paul’s error opened the fucking door. Then Broxton’s ineffectiveness and Mattingly’s fuck up sealed the deal. The rest is superstitious poppycock,
The tit for tat plunking should have ended last night. It’s evened out now. Billingsley can plunk somebody to start out tonight, maybe Beaver, but why? If the umps do a pre-game warning, he and Torre get tossed. If they umps don’t give the pre-game warning, LA has an incentive because the umps will then only warn after a plunking, so then a Zito retaliation would mean he and Bochy get tossed first. If the Dodgers want to plunk somebody, it should be Mattingly. BTW, I’ve seen some improper tossing around the Flap of the “beaning” word. That means getting hit by the ball on the head, the “‘ol bean”, like Rohand got in April. Getting hit anywhere else on the body is not as dangerous as a “beaning”…
Kershaw said “it was unfair that we got warned a little early” by the umpires. “I pitch inside and it’s part of my game and sometimes pitches get in there and get away. That’s really all I have to say about it.”
Unfair? U n f a i r? UNFAIR? U N F A I R? Fuck you and your unfair. I bet he was one of the kids who got a medal just because it was unfair. Pussy.
It’s astounding, after all the frustrration with situational hitting and the kvetching about patience at the plate, Rowand’s and Renteria’s contributions last night can be dismissed as “coincidental” … idiocy at it’s “highest” level. ThreeWad is the boy with the “ifs” and subjective guessing at what might have been. Fact is the ABs by those two were CRUCIAL to the rally, not incidental to it.
Kershaw hit Andres leading off the game…
The ball Burrell hit sounded and looked like it was going half way up the pavillion, but it seemed an invisible force knocking it staight down as it was leaving the yard!
They were crucial at bats, no doubt. My point is that any major leaguer should be able to take a walk by a struggling pitcher and lay down a sac bunt. Therefore, the ABs might have been crucial, but the players themselves weren’t.
From the Splash, I did not know of the exception iff it’s the same batter :
“Henry Schulman just spoke to a league official who said the umpires in last night’s Dodgers-Giants game erred in forcing Jonathan Broxton from the game.
The official said that the rule requiring a pitcher to be removed after two mound visits should have been superseded by a comment underneath Rule 8.06 that says if two mound visits occur while the same batter is up, the umpires must eject the manager and require the pitcher to face that batter. Only then, should the pitcher be removed.
The mistake was discovered as the umpiring crew engaged in its normal postmortem with league umpiring evaluators.
Had the Dodgers protested the game, there is a chance the protest would have been upheld, and the game replayed. But the league official said the Dodgers neglected to protest the game.”
ain’t that a hoot….
But the riposte to that is whether Torres was indeed “up” during the Mattingly visits. Torres had not yest started his AB, Broxton hadn’t made a pitch to him yet. Torres may or may not have been announced as the batter, but not sure whether that is relevant to application of the rule,.,..
OK, here’s something. MLB rule 2.00 defines:
“A BATTER is an offensive player who takes his position in the batter’s box”.
So, if Mattingly was out visiting Broxton before the AB began, how could Torres be a “batter”? If he was not yet a batter, then he could not have been “up” during the two mound visits….
I think it’s not when the “Batter” is defined, but when the “at-bat” has started. I presume the at-bat starts when announced by the PA.
Rule 6.0 Snarkk.
DMD, I looked, and the MLB rule definitions to not define “at bat”, or when one begins. So, I went to the next nearest term that was defined = “batter”, which Torres arguably had not yet qualified to be when the two mound visits went down. If video showed Torres wandering outside the box during the mound visits, but not “in position” in the box, then he can’t be a batter, and his AB had not yet begun. My head hurts…
I asked Henry to inquire about that and ask the umps. I thought he should have had to stay in the game myself. Mattingly should have been ejected as well.
Good question. Will try to ask crew chief tonite. RT @DelMarDennis: shouldn’t Mattingly been ejected and Broxton forced to pitch to Torres?
But we’ve seen over and over that it’s NOT automatic. You lost, asswipe. Just shut the fuck up about it.
This one is for all: Rowand and Renteria ARE going to get more starts. Continued idiocy everytime one or both are in the LU is not going to be looked upon favorably. I’m gonna start dragging you into GringoFuck’s room and that won’t be pretty.
It’s just kind of petty not to give Rowand and Renteria props when they contribute. It’s much worse on the ExtraBaggs blog about that. Rowand and Renteria are embarrassed they’re not regular starters. They don’t need blogsters to make them feel worse about that. They “get” it. They know. But they’ll still try to help the team any way they can when they are in the lineup. They have a lot of experience; they can still come through sometimes.
They have a role on the team, as veterans in the mix with the youngsters.
Speaking of ExtraBaggs- one of its commenters wins the “faint praise” award of the year by complementing Bochy for “out-managing the Dodgers’ third-string manager.”
Los Angeles Dodgers : Jack Taschner-P : Jack Taschner has been promoted. A.J. Ellis was optioned.
That’ll solve all their fucking problems.
Wow- have to give props to LiveFree on that one. He called Ellis a AAA player. Of course, LF says that about hundreds of major leaguers, but he was right in this case.
Timmy had a horrible start but he hit a batter. He’s the POTG for ThreeFuckWad. As I said, you’re an idiot. I misssed nothing. You are speculating that ANYBODY could do what Rowand and Rent did in the ninth when it’s been demonstrated to nauseating lengths that practically no one CAN do it. Fuck off, boy.
No Torre tonight…Suspended!
If NOTHING else, dumbfuck, face reality: they are going to have different line ups depending on the pitching. LHers are going to be faced with a different LU than RHers. Live with it, jerkwad. Tonight’s LU is one we probably ALL like better BECAUSE our LH LU is better than our RH one. That does NOT mean it would be better against LHers. That’s why Bochy and I get paid to think and you get paid to stick your dick in exhaust pipes…
Torres CF, Sanchez 2B, Huff LF, Posey C, Sandoval 3B, Uribe SS, Ishikawa 1B, Schierholtz RF, Zito P
And actually, Bochy’s best managing was by not doing the Brain Dead Blogger move and pinch hitting for Rent and/or Rowand. Letting the guy with perhaps the best eye bat and subsequently draw the walk and then using Rowand to bunt set it up for all that ensued. Even if Baby Huey stays in, we’re all fine with Huff and Torres being the two with the shot to put them ahead.
I thought one of Bochy’s best moves was giving Affeldt the close despite his history with some of the batters. From getting broxton out of ther to going with his gut on a few moves last night, that win was all Bochy. Way to go Block Head!
The win was great but that was yesterday. Hopefully The Giants carry the momentum into today. Zito needs to man up and complete the sweep.
Go Giants!
Awesome freekin lineup tonite!…. 🙂
Couldn’t agree more.
For all the talk the last few years about Kemp emerging as a star, it’s surprising how much he’s digressed, and not just offensively. Last night, several routine flies were turned into circus catches by him, where he had to stick his glove high in the air. It’s the kind of thing that is frustrating the Dodgers brass.
Well, last night’s was the *worst* of the year, producing the best win in maybe 5 years. Fucking bummer.
Nope, the worst was when Rowand was batting lead off while Torres was forced to sit through his ineptitude.
I hope Franchez finds his mojo on offense. He’s frustrating to watch right now. It’s getting hard to believe he once hit 50 doubles for the Pirates.
Hey! I got the line up right, for once . . .
All somebody has to do now is piss off Barry . . .
He’s usually pretty good vs LA though . . .
I wonder if this guy is fully recovered from the knee and shoulder surgeries. His D has been stellar, which would indicate recovery is fine, but the batting has been headed in the wrong direction….
I still like Freddie as an everyday player, but at some point, Bochy may have to look at lowering him in the lineup, especially against righthanders, when Schierholtz could be put in the #2 spot. Give it a try.
I was thinking the same thing last night Snarkk. He was so hot coming off the DL, he must have felt pretty good then. I’m wondering if he’s reaggrevated something.
I’ve said before he sometimes looks to me like he’s limping out there, sometimes while running, sometimes while just walking (when he doesn’t have the shin guard on). Take a look sometime, maybe I’m hallucinating. Or, maybe it’s just some weird running/walking style he’s always had that means nothing. And he’s got very little pop now. Pretty anemic gappers seem to be about as much power as he usually generates…
He’s never been known as a power hitter, but when he came off the DL, he was hitting hard liners into the gaps with regularity. We haven’t seen that in a while. Haven’t noticed the limp, but I haven’t watched him all that closely either.
I was the ONLY guy to call for Torres. The ONLY. Not one of the only. In fact, the whole board was bitching when Andres would get a start instead of Bowker. But the point, cocksucker, is that Rowand is no longer a regular and he is contributing in his new role as a 4th/5th OFer. Learn to like it, he and Rent will both be getting starts. As the rabble catches up to me, I see some are addressing the only real question from last night, which would be why Freddy was in.
3bagger, why does a dog licks its balls?
Because it can . . .
Back to the frivolity . . .
Any reasonably sentient person ought to be able to figger out that Nate/Rowand/Burrell are the tri-third OFers now. Torres and Huff are the 1 and 2. Against RHers we’ll see pretty close to tonight’s LU, against lefties we’ll see more of the Rowand/Burrell scenario and Renteria. The FACT is that Bochy is using his best LUs and the results make that crystal motherfucking clear. They are 7-1 in Rent AND Rowand’s last 8 starts…
” but I was calling for Torres over Rowand not long after his hot streak ended when the Giants left NY. ” Torres was already a regular before then. Maybe you mean you wanted Rowand out but Torres was already starting, since April 23, in fact. Those pesky fucking facts again.
Hey what do you call a 3 legged dog with a cast iron pecker?
Sparky
I’m goin again tonite. Aisle 1 row B couldn’t resist. Directly behind dougout level and the plate. If I’m savvy enough will try to get some pics off…I’ll be in an orange shirt with a SF cap on…Zits for the sweep!
Yeah it was definitely a strange game last night. The pitch Lincecum “coughed up” was another doozy.But it was called correctly as a “no pitch”,not a ball Rule 801 (d) applied in this case,and the reason is the ball never crossed the foul lines.
During the Dodger telecast,they re-ran Blake’s AB several times trying to make a point that the umps forgot to call the pitch a ball,and that Blake should have been given a walk.An inning or so later after they figured out the rule,Vin Scully had to eat crow and apologized to the viewers and the umpires with a priest like three “Mea Culpas”.
I, for one, will never discount the importance of the bunt in a crucial part of the game. How many times have all of us seen a potential big inning blown up because a Major League hitter could not get the bunt down?
In a pressure spot, Rowand got the bunt down, against a tough pitcher, which then forced the Dodgers to walk Huff to keep the DP in order. Say what you want about Rowand, but that’s a big play. The whole complexion of the inning changes. He doesn’t get it done, and you’re likely looking at first and second with one down or maybe even two. Not quite the same as bases loaded with one out.
Big time props to Aaron for getting the job done. It’s those little things that make a team successful.
This team is jelling and it’s mighty fun to watch. As much as I love AT&T, there is nothing quite so satisfying as a Giants fan than the team beating the hated Dodgers in their yard. ESPECIALLY the way they did it last night!
Go Zito! Go Giants!