What do we do with the DH? What do they do with Guerrero?
This has been hacked around pretty good already but I thought we could kill off another meaningless day with a discussion about the DH. To me, this is a CLEAR CUT advantage: The Giants. When we play in Texas, Burrell should be our DH with Nate playing RF and Ross (or Torres playing left field). This allows Burrell to get 4 (or more) at bats a game versus his usual 3 when Bochy pulls him for defensive purposes late in the game. Our offense gets BETTER this way as does our defense by getting him off the field and getting Nate ON it. We also get faster with Nate’s legs in the LU and, hopefully, on the base paths….
What do the Rangers do with their DH when they play in San Francisco? Well, if their plan is to trot Guerrero out to Right Field….good luck with ALLLLLL that! Automatic massive downgrade defensively and their offense doesn’t get better, it just stays the same. And if they choose to sit him at ATT, hey I can dig that, too…..
I’m still sorting out what my day is going to look like on Wednesday. At first, I was just going to take the end of the day off work and try to make it up there by 4pm. Then, I decided it would be better to catch the 2pm train. Now, thanks to a fortuitous meeting with Katie’s teacher at 10am Wednesday I have decided to make it up to the park by around noon and just wander around for 4 or 5 hours. By this afternoon it’s entirely possible that I will have hatched a plan to camp against the bricks at ATT tonight…….
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Bravo for the DH!
Should be interesting to see how Vlad handles RF. My gut feeling is he’ll be adequate, no worse than Burrell and it won’t be a big factor.
Me too, Max.
From the poll below, most Flappers want Sandoval as DH.
Fuck the DH
Hey Flav, when are you going inside the park tmomrrow?
I might try to scalp Thursday night IF the prices are somewhere near reasonable ($150.00 – $200.00 a ticket for upper deck or some shit like that). I’m coming from the foothills with my son, so if I drive down, I’m committed.
I hope they triple the price for you Chuck. You deserve to pay more!
BF wasn’t Burrell the DH for Tampa Bay, and he struggled?? I think he has even said that he preferrs to play so he gets into the flow of the game. Your way is a good way to keep him in the game but what if it messes with his ability to hit? I am just throwing shit out there. I would think/hope that Bochy approach him to find out how he would feel about being the DH.
From hearing Bochy this morning, I’d be surprise if Burrell DHs more than one game, maybe none. Yeah, the extra AB would be good, but if the DH fuks with his mind and so his first 3 ABs suck, that’s no good. Look for Huff to DH and Ishi to get some 1B time against RHs…
The DH rule is pretty convoluted, covering a bunch of situations that are unlikely to occur in mlb, but as I read it, the options for replacing a DH are limited. For example, if a DH becomes a defensive player during the game, the DH spot vanishes. Also, because the DH spot is “locked” into the batting order, you can’t make your LF (who is also already “locked” into a spot in the order) the DH in the middle of the game, while subbing for the LF. Rule 6.10(b) (final section).
Better for Bochy to go with Burrell in LF, until the late innings with a lead, and use Pablo as DH against RHs and, yes, Rowand, et alia, against LHs (DHs can be replaced when it’s their turn to bat, or when they get on base). (I would play Uribe in the field either at 3B or SS every game.)
I used to think that the NL had the advantage in the AL park, as we got an extra batter, and in the NL park because their pitchers didn’t know which end of the bat to use. However, what I realized – very painfully – in 2002 was that their ‘extra bat’ was a professional hitter, whereas ours was a guy who usually rode the bench.
This year, however, we do have a very professional bat in Pat the Bat – I know he didn’t particularly like that role in Tampa, but I can’t imagine he would decline to do something that is so important to the Giants success in the WS.
Also, I want to go on record as picking the Giants in 6. I think they could win it in 5, but I want them to win at home – I think the home fans deserve to see that celebration at AT&T.
Twin, in case you didn’t see this from the previous thread:
Twin, what the hell:
G’s:
Runs: 20
Hr’s: 5
Buster: 8 hits
JBat, ya must have done some sort of clairvoyant trick or vulcan mind meld with my selections – everything exactly the same on the two tie breakers.
Haha. I didn’t even look to see what others had picked. I guess we’ll need a third tie-breaker.
Like Snarkk just said, from listening to Bochy this morning I’d be very surprised to see the Bat at DH. The “comfortability” factor was mentioned. He thinks Pat thinks he hits better when playing the field so as not to have all that in between time sitting on the bench to be thinking. Methinks Pat the Bat plays LF.
One other scenario was broached…Ishi plays 1B (vs the right-handers of course) and the Huffster moves to DH. His numbers as the DH are nearly identical to when he plays 1B in 400+ games at each position.
I have the G’s winning in 7.
Also from listening to Bochy this morning…don’t expect any position player roster moves. The one move that might be made would be replacing Mota with either Ray, Runzler or *gulp* Zitshit.
I’m confident Bochy Sabean etal will do what they deem gives them the best shot. Bochy is in full control now, even in his deft handling of he media. The guy is a lot smarter than he ever let on.
I certainly see Rowand being a more likely part of it than Ishikawa and Nate ( other than in their current roles). As I’ve said, I think the toughest decision is Panda/Renteria/Fontenot as they all have shown massive deficiencies that can turn a game the wrong way. My thought is Font PH only, and platoon Rent/Panda. And pray. DH? See where they stand when they get to Texas. Hell, I can see Font against a RHer for a duckie and Pat against a lefty. Leave the pitching staff as is….
JBat, I saw a stat in an Article the Sac Bee did and the Giants have never won a game 7, so I hope is does not go 7!!
Hey, there’s always a first time, and they beat the Phils on the road in game 6. I actually took the easy way out picking a 7 game series, but what the hell. Winning in 6 would be better, if only because they wouldn’t have to face Lee a third time. I think we beat him once in this series, and that’ll be the difference.
Guerrero in Right?? that could almost be comical.
hey FH, welcome to the party! It seems my idea to get you “back in the game” was better than any of the ideas stupid “wordpress support” came up with!
Yep, you’re the bomb!!!
“What the…? A surprise party!
I’ll kill you. Whose idea was this?
All right, everybody’s coming
to my place. This is ridiculous.”
Someone asked about the diff between a “gamer” and a regular PC. A gamer costs 12 million…
over the years I’ve built hundreds of high end systems for “gamers”, architects, film directors,audiophiles… while all the hardware is important, the best gaming systems are also just the best PCs because gaming requires no bottlenecks- hard drive, CPU, RAM, graphics- nothing to slow down the flow. Obviously I cannot afford to give way a truly top of the line gaming PC- to give you an idea, the CPU alone is about a grand, graphics card $500 ( and I’ve built systems with FOUR 500 buck cards.)… I’m building one now for $3300.00 going to an old customer in New Orleans ( BTW, he just now got some money from what he lost in Katrina)…
What this prize will be is what my experience has shown to be a midlevel gaming machine- which also means a system good for ANYTHING…I have tricks to turn a triple core into a quad, maximize RAM functionality, etc. It’s also a very good graphics card.I have little doubt it will be a PC that will serve you wel for years… now I only have 9 entrants, get more in. I’m rooting for anyone but a special rooting interest for Craig and Chucklefuck…
Thanks for clearing that up.
I think.
Thanks for the clarification. I was the one who posed the question. I’ll do a little more handicapping and submit you my picks. But my guesses have sucked more than Bochy’s lineups. I have a NO Whitey chance in hell of even coming close.
Wait’ll you see my numbers.
Outre
I’ll email u mine later. And you guys, don’t post your guesses here, email them to twin
Off topic for a sec.
Has anyone else tired of Schulman’s shtick? I always found him kinda lazy for a beat writer and after seeing Slusser’s work during the playoffs, I think I was right. Lately it seems to me that the dude just wants to emphasize the negative and/or losses (to me anyway). I kind of like my beat writer to be just a bit more of a homer or at the very least get some good inside info.I know now isn’t a good time to propose a trade but I wouldn’t mind at all if Henry was traded for Susan. Added plus, I still think the dude is soph and if so he can take her along with him.
OK back to your regularly scheduled topic.
Schulman’s okay. I like him well enough. You think he’s soph?????? That’s odd
I thought Susan did a great job as well. Live, up-to-the-minute updates with insightful commentary. She even stopped making new threads when it became apparent that whenever she did, the opposition would score. Anyone who’s a big believer in jinxes is A-OK in my book.
Bozo, I’ve thought Schulman has done a pretty good job since I’ve been reading him. I don’t know if you’re ever going to get a homer for a journalist, but I think he does okay. I did like Slusser’s work, though, and I like that she posted in the Splash.
As for soph, well and idiot is an idiot. He’s a lost cause.
JBat, it just seems to me he’s a Scott Ostler wannabe. Likes to get his quips in and can get more in if they lose. And, yes I do sometimes feel he created soph to get more hits on his blog and to be able to get down on the Giants more. Hey, I’m a clown and could be way off base but the guy is really starting to bug me. Give me Susan or better yet Baggs. Hell I’d take Nevius or Joan Ryan back over this guy.
Congrats to Buster Posey,recognized by his peers as winning the 2010 Players Choice Award for NL Rookie of the Year! Beating out Jason Heyward and Jamie Garcia.Let’s hope the idiot sportswriters back east come to their senses and make it official in the real balloting.
Just got back into town from a weekend on the central coast. No computer, but I did get to see the game. What a finish. Ross had a great series, but Wilson was my MVP. Ross would have been a better fit for the NLDS MVP if they had one.
NLDS ,286,1hr, 333 obp,.905 ops;
NLCS .350, 4hrs, .435 obp, 1.385 OPS.
His overall numbers for the NLCS are definitely better, but His play in the DS is what won that series.
Underdog role. I like it. Key to getting at the Texas starter tomorrow night will be thoughtful, measured, patient at bats. We may expect such an approach from Franchez; Huff; Buster and Batster. As the dude usually throws strikes it may also advantage a couple of the hackers on the team ~ so long as they guess lucky.
Key for Timmy will be to keep em off the basepaths. In some situations he may pitch more to contact than for K’s. Texas has some very good hitters, but troubles for Timmy would come with BB’s. In the first couple games SF should have a modest power advantage as Giants hitters know their park and Texas sluggers’ drives may die natural deaths in Death Valley in right-center. Both teams had 162 HRs this season. I would expect the deRangers to have some modest power advantage in their own park as well.
Buster may be dragging a bit after such a long season at the most demanding position in the game. No dingers lately. But his work behind the plate should not suffer. His rifle may well gun down a couple of the Texas baserunners if they get too frisky. If that happens early in the series, the DeRangers may lose one of their biggest edges.
The player we must crush,the same way we crushed Heyward and Howard,is Josh Hamilton.He had this to say while his teammates were pouring champagne all over each other:”Well,its not the top of the mountain until I get to stand in front of my savior one day.” I say Fuck Josh Hamilton..
Is that like an AA thing?
NO!
Well, that was an emphatic reply
Well, I was going to say “FUCK NO!!!” but that seemed a little much…
I just don’t like people getting religion and recovery mixed up – you can definitely have one without the other. (Plus, I thought his comment was a little disproportional to the situation, so my response to your question had to be, too.)
What the fuck?
Perfect justice would be served if Hamilton steps to the plate with one out and the bases juiced and he hits a hot liner which Ishikawa somehow snags and then beats the runner back to First. Which one would best be serving their Savior?
I thought Buster was The Savior.
I still like Brett Butler’s reply when asked why the Giants lost a particularly galling game:
“I guess God didn’t want us to win tonight.”
Really, Brett? God pays that much attention? Its what always yanks my crank about these guys thanking God at all turns. Are you that egocentric to think that God:
a) Pays attention to sports events?
b) Cares who wins or loses?
c) Picks guys like Deion Sanders/Reggie White/Michael Irvin/Josh Hamilton to be their reps here in the cold cruel world?
God must have a hell of a sense of humor . . .
You know whats best? Douche bags not bringing up religion with the thinking that everyone else on tihs blog likes to read them bashing it…… I thought it was no politics or religion right?
Good call. Exactly what I was thinking. A lot of folks are religious. So what?
I paid $150 (face value) plus internet fees for each of my 2 seats for game 1 and game 6. I’ve had offers of up to $850 a piece! It would take a whole lot more than that to pry these tickets from my cold dead hand.
For the WS? Or the NLCS?
WS
What a night last night. Lisa and Pilar were here with a couple gentlemen friends. There was a kerfuffle near the pond and the boys went out to check on it. When they hadn’t returned after awhile I sent the ladies out in thieir underwear to see what was up. The fellows were dead, but Lisa and Piilar cornered the killer and decapitated, burned, dismembered, and disemboweled him…
But I told them then and I’ll say it again: Myers is not dead…
Calling Dr. Loomis!
Looks like I wasn’t the only one watching “Halloween” on AMC last night for the umpteenth time.
Seeing Jamie Lee in those knee-high whites—doesn’t get much better than that.
And I’m sorry, but Lynda had it coming—she was a whore.
As for the DH my vote is for a Rowand/Panda platoon….. Or Huff if they want to play Panda at first? I doubt it tough…. And Ishwi is best coming in for PH duty….
Chuck, yes God does have a sense of humor, I work in an office with a bunch of 20 something young women!!
It doesn’t make sense to DH the better OFer, if Rowand plays he should be in center and the Bat DH. Pat can handle it.
You’d think so….
Heh heh. Reminds me of the time I bought tickets for a Niner game from some guy outside, and me and my buddy ended up sitting right in the middle of 350 high school cheerleaders.
I felt like the perv on the tricycle on Laugh-in. And I was only 26 at the time. It was an epically weird day. Much like a B-52s show I saw at the Civic. Not realizing that 17 year old girls wearing next to nothing seemed to be their biggest fans. Moshing in that crowd was euphoric . . .
Sweet!!
Politics? Has anyone else noticed that Jerry Brown’s latest radio ad, the one Peter Coyote narrates, sounds suspiciously familiar? The dramatic strings playing in the background are a bit more subdued, but the copy is unmistakable:
“As Governor, he refused to take a pay raise and vetoed pay raises for state employees — dumped the governor’s mansion and the limo — to save money.”
Stay frugal, my friends.
Funny line by Jenkins in today’s paper:
If you’re still thinking of Brian Sabean in terms of Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand and Edgar Renteria, you’d better get back down to the basement and those “CHiPs” reruns
Clearly the writers there read the Splash at least occasionally.
Book it
So for the information you were all dying to hear: World Series National Anthem sung by for the first 3 games are:
Game 1 John Legend
Game 2 Lady Antebellum
Game 3 Kelly Clarkson
Lady Antebellum?
No Lady Ga Ga???
I want to say a country singer that had a pop song, my wife and daughter would know
Okay. I just Googled. It’s not a she. It’s a them. Country/pop trio. And I’ve never heard *anything* they’re done. But in their defense, the last time I purchased anything “new” was an Aerosmith album in 1989.
After that, just hearing dribs and drabs of stuff at other people’s houses
Can’t they save the country shit for when they play in Texas? A little George Stait in Arlington seems to make sense.
What’s an ‘album?’
See, I *knew* that would throw some folks
OK, if Kat is going to veer off into National Anthem minutia, I thought you all would like to know what Balloon Boy Dad has been up to . . . Yes, that’s right, he is marketing his new invention, Bear Scratch . . . http://www.bearscratch.com/
Click on the You Tube ad, which is absolutely hilarious.
We now return you to your regular programming 🙂
That’s just too weird, blade. Didn’t they put this dude in jail?
Yeah, he served his time . . . Even idiots deserve second chances. Ha.
WTF, John Legend and Lady Antebellum??? So glad they had Huey Lewis and the Dead for the NLCS, but I was just assuming Santana was being saved for the World Series. Shit, he’s even got his own Giants bobblehead. Hope he’s the game 6 choice.
Lady Antebellum? Never hear of ’em myself. And who the hell uses the word “antebellum?” Before the Civil War isn’t that catchy. Lady BC has a better ring to it.
And how bout Tony Bennett for the National Anthem. Have him stick around for the game and he could regale the crowd with “I Left My Heart in San Francisco” live after we win.
Buck/McCarver on the TV, Lady Antebellum singing the national anthem…what’s next? Lasodra throwing out the first pitch.
I was kinda hoping for Shatner…
…or Hasselhoff
I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but I sort of get a kick out of Ray Ratto. I’m wondering if it was written in contract with Comcast that he would never have to appear in a sports coat or tie. The man must own a 500 sweaters.
I’m a not so sure…
Excuse a my typo,Dr loo.
fyi, Dr Gammons on Chron live
I’ve always thought Ratto should cover horse racing. Or he’d be fine as the wrestler announcer weinie.
Maybe a good time for all to talk a little about how baseball became your passion. You’ve heard from me enough on it , I’d love to hear stories from all. First game? Little League? Were you any good?
Couldn’t hit the curve ball. Last played hardball in Pony League, was on a B squad watching a pitcher hit one out of the American legion park we played in. This was in SoCal and the pitcher that hit it out of the park, future hall of fame catcher, Gary Carter. Not much else, pitched and caught in little league, 3rd and caught in pony league (kicked off HS team for not getting a haircut). SF softball mostly DD league playing SS, 3B and finally 2B when my knees were gone. When we got to the C league I had to hang it up.
Oh yeah – Carter was a (I guess he still is) a year older and on the A team.
My “claim to fame” occurred in 4th grade of my CYO League (St. Patrick of Rodeo) Being a lefty I got to pitch and play 1B, what else? It was my turn to pitch and we were playing St. Paul from San Pablo. Well, I must of had my one pitch working that day, I threw a no-no. Can’t remember if we played only 5 or 6 innings back then, but I struck everyone out but two—a grounder to short, and a fly out to center. I probably walked at least a half a dozen so it wasn’t a perfecto.
I don’t recall there being a big celebration or anything out on the field. But I remember the other kids on the van ride back suggest to our coach we go somewhere special because of my no-no. But we just went for our usual postgame pizza at the local parlor. We wore green and white uniforms and I was #11. I still have a photo of myself from that season stashed away in my dresser drawer.
The summer I was 11 my mother and sister went on vacation, my father stayed home to work, and I stayed home to play baseball. One day, I looked into the liquor cabinet, for the first time. I figured that no one would be likely to notice a little less vodka in that particular bottle. I mixed some with grapefruit juice. I don’t recall the bike ride to practice, but I do remember the coach, pitching BP, commenting on how hard I was hitting line drives.
Must’ve been good for my swing. First AB during the game the next day, I crushed a homer over the LCF fence. My dad was sitting in the stands, and, as I came around 3B, I looked at him happily. Everyone else was on their feet, clapping, cheering. My dad sat still, staring darkly at me. My teammates were waiting at the plate. As I trotted toward them I thought, how the hell did he figure it out?
A factor for DHing Huff and playing Ishikawa against the RHers in Texas: I watched two throws: the one that from Uribe that ended the Atlanta series and the error by Panda that led to the one loss- they were very nearly the same throw..
Why are you always last, Chuckles? They’re not activating Tom Goodwin, OK? Make your fucking pick.
A buddy of mine sent me this. I thought it was good.
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My baseball passion grew out of pick-up games at the local school afterschool and on the weekends, when I was in elementary school. Those kinds of pick-up games don’t exist anymore. We made all our own ground rules, solved all our own disputes, and functioned quite nicely without any adults around. None of us were good enough to play much beyond about junior high age. Later in my 20s, I played in a Friday night softball league. It was a lot of fun.
I happened upon the Giants in ’71, during their run to winning the division. Lon Simmons on the radio became a fixture in my life. Our local library had the Chronicle, so I discovered the Green Sheet. I still remember the exquisite joy I felt when I learned how a batting average was determined, and all the cool mathematical stuff, like how number of ABs that are mulitples of 9 have batting averages that are either .111, or .222 or .333 or .444, etc.
I have fond memories of those Saturday NBC games, with Garigiola and Kubek. I seem to vaguely remember Kurt Gowdy being there for a while, too.
If you remember Joe and Tony fondly, there might be some brain mushing going on, Zumie…
Practically the only show in town, though. The Giants games on Channel 2 were too fuzzy to watch from our TV attenna.
Cosell was one of the worst, wasn’t he? You watch and listen to the old footage and he always jumps in on the most exciting plays and walks all over the play by play guy, and takes over the call. Kind of amazing he was allowed to get away with that.
Especially the Chambliss HR, zum…
Yeah, that’s one of the many calls he ruined.
ABC was so screwed up in their baseball coverage they had Keith Jackson calling games. Say what?
Baseball was always on the radio at our house, as far back as I can remember. This was Hodges and Simmons, back when there were only 8 teams in either league. Philly and the Cubs were the shits.
As I got older we started playing with guys a block over, tennis ball in the middle of the street. Then as 60s hit my family went to the Stick a lot…the NL just had so many exciting players. The athleticism and style of the black and latin stars really struck me; those were the guys i admired the most and tried to emulate. Which was pretty funny as I was a small skinny white boy with funny looking curly dark hair. As I graduated HS I probably weighed 120 lbs.
My favorite player was Bobby Bonds. He was the guy.
Gowdy was competent if wordy, I loved Jack Buck, Lindsey Nelson was a revelation in his short time here, very very good. Simmons wasn’t a favorite, Greenwald certainly was. Keith Jackson? GREAT college football, that dog could hunt… because I grew up with him, Prince was my guy. Homer, epic drinker ( the famous swan dive into the pool of the Chase Hotel from 3 stories), coiner of some of the best “little bingles” and “alabaster blasts”… inherited the Buc job from Rosey Rosewell ( “open the window Aunt Minnie”) , who I think died of rat poisoning… but that’s an unsupported recollection.
We had this conversation this year before spring training. Someone even mentioned compiling it as a book.
So I shall defer.
Not that I don’t love it. I just bore myself
Hodges really wasn’t very good either; used to complain a lot about the weather during the summer in midwest. But if the Giants were on, we were listening to the radio, including the DH with the Mets that went forever.
Simmons was better at football—we were outside washing my dad’s car when we heard.”…. and he’s running the wrong way. Marshall is going the wrong way…. Bruce Bosley taps him on the back…”
I still think mid-late 60s was golden era for the NL: every team had legit AS besides Mays Mac and Marichal here plus Bonds and Cepeda and all the Alous, you had Clemente, Gibson, Brock, Billy williams and Ernie Banks, Wills Gilliam and the two Davises, Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson, Richie Allen, Jimmy Wynn Cesar Cedeno. the LA-SF rivalry was at absolute peak, and going to the Stick day or night was just tremendously exciting for Dodger games.
It was the terrible Bucs in my youth, then the miracle that was 1960 and then on to Minnesota, which I was told would be igloos, buxomless eskimos, and ice fishing for guppies…first game in Minnesota the lot and field had to be blow torched, the players came in in helicopters, and my Uncle Hal went on to win the first of his many tomato growing contests that summer. That man could do three things better than any other: grow a tomato, drink on a boat, and fight like Billy Conn..
I’m preparing my World Series celebration dinner already-Cassoulet takes time. Simmered the duck legs in their fat for confit today, ground the pork butt for sausages… later will be the beans, herbs, crumbs on THE day. I’ll probably break my ten year abstinence for hard cider, that’s undecided.
Clemente was my hero, Dick Stuart the anti-hero. My book about Dick and life and “the line” gathers dust, one day I will recusitate it. Dr. Strangeglove and I sat by my pond in Santa Rosa one night after he died… and talked while the damsel flies danced into the dawn…
The enlisted housing at Ramstein AFB featured drab, oblong 4-story buildings comprising 24 apartments each, all arranged in a series of quads that defined huge communal spaces that the kids ruled on summer nights. In our yard, we devised something called “batball,” which was basically softball played with a cheap plastic soccer ball, 30 inch Louisville Sluggers and no gloves, naturally. The games would start before supper, and continue until the sun completely disappeared, well after 9 pm. I’m sure we played only a handful of these epics, but my memory of them is pure endless summer affect. Cue the Jonathan Richman.
Before my father was stationed in Germany, we were at Travis up I-80. Both of my parents are European immigrants who didn’t grow up with baseball, and it was not really a part of our family life . . . until I developed a friendship with another kid who had been transplanted from Hamilton AFB in Marin. He was a huge Giants fan. He also convinced me to try out for little league at age 11, even though I’d never really played before. This buddy of mine, who was a coach’s son, later let me know that I was the very last kid picked in the draft. I didn’t hit even a single crummy foul ball that first year. When I came back the next, I was installed at 3rd base during the tryout. When I did finally manage to field a ball, I whipped it over to first, catching the attention of my eventual coach. I was on the mound when we lost the league championship game 1-0.
Europe used to send a representative to the little league world series every year. I was picked to be on the Ramstein All Star team that would play against those other NATO powerhouses. I came home from an early practice with travel info in hand, and my parents let me know that there was a looming conflict with a visit to Grandma’s that had already been planned. I would have to quit the team. Ramstein played Torrejon, Spain for the right to go to the WS that year, and lost 1-0 in the European final.
Ramstein? Isn’t that a German heavy metal band?
Yeah, finding enough kids for a game was always the challenge.
3 flies up usually ended up being the game when we couldn’t get the necessary bodies . . .
Franchez! There goes the no-no.