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Best Record in ST, But Still Finding Things to Complain About

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on March 11, 2011

Being 11-4 isn’t anything to complain about. Or care about. There are a few minor disappointments so far this Spring:

1) Brandon Belt is showing us why he’s going to start the year in Fresno. Hitting .250 with a .323 OBP is just not good.

2) Marc Kroon isn’t getting much of a look. He’s nearly the career saves leader in Japan and he throws close to 100 mph. He’s only pitched 3 innings so far this Spring, I was hoping to see more of him.

3) Rowand is hitting .111 and is hurt. The .111 isn’t much of a shocker but the fact that he can’t even make it onto the field is a disappointment. Sabean can’t “Pittsburgh” anyone with Rowand unable to even play.

4) We are stuck with another year of El Presidente. Stewart is doing nothing, as expected. I still don’t understand why we don’t have a credible back up for our best hitter/player….

Kansas City has the best record in the AL right now, by the way……

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  1. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:21 am

    11-4…. 11-4… why does that numerical sequence ring a bell. Ah, yes..

    • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:13 am

      ???

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:38 am

      Chuck, don’t tell me your erudition starts and stops with Frank Zappa? How about this sequence: 4, 6, 5

  2. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Belt will indeed start in Fresno if he hits as he has-that was not the question, though. Be aware of that..
    As to Kroon, there isn’t a spot for him, he’ll probably open in Fresno and he or Edlefson would be the first recall in case of injury…
    Don’t understand the love affair with Vera’s boy, either. There were a shitload of FA catchers available this winter.
    They need to make room for Ford whether he hits or not. He’s probably the fastest player in the game and he’s a GOOD baserunner. He’ll win several games on the bases late. If that means goodbye to Nate, so be it.

  3. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:15 am

    I totally see the value of Ford over Nate and I hope the team sees the same thing.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:49 am

      I take Nate over Ford, easily. Ford needs at least another 1/2 year in the minors, if not a whole season. His D is fine, he needs to work on how to use his speed to get on base consistently…

  4. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Ted get out of bed and look at the BB for today

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:45 am

      And the title of today’s BB pic: Pudenda Beach. Man. Some of the poses these beautiful women assume. I sort of liked that video snarkk linked to yesterday. Even if it’s cheesy production, isn’t it nice to see the women move around a bit, smile and talk. You know, like real people?

  5. 3bagger's avatar 3bagger said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Camelback Mountain or cameltoe??? Let’s check with the BB…cameltoe it is!

  6. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:45 am

    I know we rag on the Dodgers a lot, but seriously….did you all see the size of that “crowd” at the Dodger game yesterday, on the MLB network broadcast? There was hardly anyone there. Wow. That says a lot of about Dodger fan interest in the Dodgers these days.

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:47 am

      The camera would pan into the home “crowd”, and the Dodger broadcasters would get real quiet. What could they say? It was a total embarrassment.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:49 am

      by contrast, as Kuip pointed out on the radio this morning, yesterday’s crowd at the Reds ST park contained so many Giants fans they were able to stop the game with their standing O when Renteria came to the plate. He tipped his cap, apparently. Now there’s a bunch of happy fans!

  7. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:47 am

    I’m on board with no Nate, yes Ford. I’ll bet Darren’s late inning D will be as valuable as Nate’s has been, and the kid is a holy terror on the base paths.

  8. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:01 am

    most…inviting…bb…ever

    • Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:30 am

      What???? LOL

  9. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:17 am

    The Dogs were huge in Fla. No interest now that they moved to AZ.

  10. Decap's avatar Decap said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Camelback was packed for last week’s doyers Giants night game…. packed with Giants fans hahahaha!
    That stadium is a bitch to get to, but the dirt parking lot makes it a lot easier to park and the staduim is pretty cool…

  11. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on March 11, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I have not seen anything on Rohand being injured. What’s wrong with him?…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:04 am

      Chronic anemic ineptitude

      • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:05 am

        Try to say *that* 3 times fast

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:11 am

      Never mind, I just googled and found an obscure reference to some sort of minor groin injury a few days ago. Was he not riding the bike this past winter? Wasn’t that the thing that was going to turn him around last ST? This guy has got to go. At any price, just get it done. He’s hitting a buck something, then get’s injured so itz even more difficult to trade him? I’d put him on the sixty day DL to start the season and then make him play a rehab stint in Fresno, then trade his ass in June to some obscure team for a popsicle stick after he hits about .200 there. Just be done with this dude…

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:17 am

        And BTW, why no “inside source” management rant leaked against the Gamer so far in ST? Zito gets a broadside, but the Gamer gets a pass? Since he signed, he’s given as poor production as Zito, maybe worse, for the money spent…

      • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 12:32 pm

        Probably becasue they aren’t counting on Rowand to start . . .

      • stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on March 11, 2011 at 1:18 pm

        Snarkk; Good points on Row-row. I like the 60 day and the Fresno gig. That way maybe the Giants can have their Ford and Nate it too.

  12. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Who has the better year, Rowand or Zito?

    My money’s on today’s BB to score more than Rowand and have a more impressive WHIP than Zito.

  13. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on March 11, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Maybe Rowand and Zito can get together and have a few beers here: http://tiny.cc/bslrn

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on March 11, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      Who knows? A handful of beers for Rohand might help. The 500 swings a day thing the last few years sure ain’t workin’…

  14. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Our Cactus League ERA is 2.80? That’s downright ridiculously unfathomable. You just don’t see those kind of numbers in March. Might even be too good for our own sake. Reminds me of when the Niners go 4-0 in the preseason. That never seems to bode well. So for the good of the team in the regular season, here’s to seeing our spring ERA take an upward tick.

  15. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Dennis, never ever jinks your team by suggesting what their win/loss/ERA/strikeouts etc be for ST. right now it appears that they just picked up where they left off on Nov 1. as long as they peak in mid Sept I am fine with everything that leads up to that. 162 games is a lot of games.

  16. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Wow this earthquake and Tsunami is just crazy. Crescent city and Santa Cruz, not good

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 2:25 pm

      One of the best places I’ve ever lived was a cabin on 4th Ave in SC overlooking the front harbor. It’s mind boggling to think of all of those fancy sailboats rocking and colliding and slamming into the docks and shoals and sinkiing.

      • dirtnrocksnreno's avatar dirtnrocksnreno said, on March 11, 2011 at 2:46 pm

        xoot, ever spend any time at Brady’ Yatch Club?

      • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:26 pm

        Nope. I’m sure Brady’s was there in the 70s, but I don’t remember stopping in.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:00 pm

      I remember my uncle took me hunting for yatch once. Up in Ely, Minnesotta

      • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:20 pm

        My uncle took me snatch hunting a few times . . . Rush St. in Chi-town. . .

        It’s ‘yacht’

  17. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    CF Rowand, SS Fontenot, 3B Sandoval, LF Ishikawa, 1B Belt, RF Schierholtz, 2B Burriss, C Stewart or Whiteside, P Lincecum

    “Stewart or NO Whitey.” I’d hate to be in Bochy’s shoes. That’s one tough decision.

    Tonight’s lineup is so bad I won’t even give it the dignity of my bitchin’ and moanin’.
    I’m above that.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 2:21 pm

      Since when?

  18. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    It’s sad when rich people’s yachts get damaged.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:27 pm

      I like boats. And some (not a huge number, but some) owners of nice boats live on them year round.

  19. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Santa Cruz harbor ain’t exactly the St Francis Yacht Club. It’s mainly a working-class (fishing) harbor.

    You know, like Pier 39 about 40 years ago.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:56 pm

      The front harbor always has had a lot of nice sailboats. The chiming sound of stays smacking masts made windy nights entertaining. A friend of mine launched at SC harbor a 28 foot sloop he built. (He was painter; his wife a teacher in Watsonville.) We sailed the boat to Vancouver the following May. Nobody mistook us for rich-guy yachtsmen.

      • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:58 pm

        Whats that restuarant right there? Ahhh, the Crow’s Nest . . .

        Great place . . . spent many a night at the bar back in the day . . .

      • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 4:04 pm

        Same with the Shadowbrook.

        Haven’t been there in years . . .

        Got to get down there soon . . .

  20. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    I get like 3 of these types of emails a day. Hilarious.

    Liu Wang to info
    show details 1:19 PM (2 hours ago)
    I am Liu Wang,I ask for your partnership in re-profiling funds I will give you the
    details but in summary, the funds are coming via Bank of Taipei in Taiwan.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 4:15 pm

      Nothing beats re-profiling funds on a Friday afternoon

  21. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    If his name was DJ Liu Wang, I’d be worried . . .

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

      Chuck, have you figured out 11-4 or 4,6,5 yet?

      • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:33 pm

        25 or 6 2 4 is all I got now.

        465 was 465 Ocean Blvd. Where Clapton cut an album.

  22. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Ballgames are pretty good times for the boring but necessary OT exercises-crumpling paper, threading objects on a string, etc…
    That’s a heck of a LU,Dennis. They’ve played Travis in LF a lot. Looking forward to seeing him there, I’d guess he’s better than Huff or Burrell. Destination Pittsburgh?

  23. eddacker415's avatar eddacker415 said, on March 11, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Speaking of yachts I saw this yesterday while waiting at the dentist:

    The son of the Republic of Equatorial Guinea’s president, Teodoro Obiang Nguema planned to build one of the world’s most expensive yachts. The superyacht would have cost 288 million euros which is approximatly 10 times what the government spends on health, education and welfare.
    Teodorin earns 5,000 euros a month as a government minister, but “despite this he owns a 35 million dollar mansion in Malibu as well as a gulf stream jet”, said one observer. “According to my very rough calculations it would take him over 4,000 years to pay for this yacht with his official salary.”
    Average income is €2500 and unemployment is around 30%
    It’s good to be (son of) the king.

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:30 pm

      All this happened in the waiting room?

  24. eddacker415's avatar eddacker415 said, on March 11, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    I see the game is on KNTV tonight.
    The last time I watched channel 2 Jack LaLanne had an exercise show.
    May he rest in peace. 🙂

  25. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    NO Whitey is 0 fer the spring thus far. You just can’t help but love that sorry-ass piece of shit.

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:34 pm

      Every other back-up SF Giant catcher before him was known as “NO Trophy”.

  26. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    Game’s on? What fucking channel?

    I can’t find shit . . .

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:37 pm

      MLB Network…..assuming you can find your TV.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:37 pm

      well, it’s not 4, 6 or 5, Chuck. Try 3.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      NO Whitey has an average.

  27. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    1. Congrats on turning “Pittsburgh” into a verb, Magnus. They needed that.

    2. Although y’all might roll your eyes at this, I suggest the ST record means something; not everything, but something. Losing is a habit. So is winning. And winning is better, as we all baskingly know. No one wants to go out there and lose. They simply don’t. Also, you can look this up, but I am pretty certain that traditionally [say, since the 1970s] the Giants have to have a winning spring to have a good year; not necessarily a stellar ST but .500 or above. They seem to need that. I like winning, even in ST.

    • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:54 pm

      Well. even if one subscribes to the notion that the record doesn’t mean anything, then why not win? Losing doesn’t mean anything either..

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      winning.

  28. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Nice first inning for the Scrubinis

  29. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Just checked out the schedule after hearing something Morgan said.
    22 out of the first 31 on the road! That ain’t fair.

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:01 pm

      I meant Miller, not Morgan. They’re easily confused.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      But they have 5 off days in April, too. It’ll work out ok.

      And I agree, Miller and Mogan look and sound so much alike, it’s confusing. But I think Joe’s the one with the moustache.

  30. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Pawlie, I remember Dusty Baker saying something like that near the end of one spring training, not sure which year that was; the team was losing more than winning that spring, and someone asked Baker if he was concerned. He said no, win-loss record in ST means nothing, but he also said he always wants to see the team “get into the habit of winning” in the last couple weeks of ST heading into the season. One thing that seems to make this particular Giants team special is that they do truly seem to understand how to enjoy winning. I watched some of the World Series videos on YouTube again last night (after Kevin posted that “27 last outs” link)… this is truly a fun team.

  31. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    I’m just absolutely blown away by how Sandoval looks right now. He’s like a completely different person. He looks like a total stud athlete with an edge to him. He’s moving around like one, too.

  32. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Last year on that first to third he’s needing oxygen…

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:31 pm

      on his back at the SS position.

  33. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Even his skin color looks different. It’s like he’s darker or tanner, or something. Last year he had a jello-ey brownish yellow hue to him. Now he’s got this crisp, dark look. Am I going crazy or does Sandoval look like a totally different human being????

    • paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:33 pm

      Ah, I knew they’d figure out a way to get Villalona into the country…

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      Fastest damn Ford I’ve ever seen.

      • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm

        I meant to post that elsewhere. And I competely forgot about Ford’s racing division (Le Mans, F1, etc.). My apologies to Henry.

        How about little Mike Fontenot? He has show power tonight.

  34. macdog's avatar macdog said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Smacking around Latos is fun whether it’s spring training or the real games.

  35. dirtnrocksnreno's avatar dirtnrocksnreno said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Maybe Pablo has been drinking tiger blood and snorting charlie sheen.

  36. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    COuld that dude interviewing ROwand be any closer to him? lol. *close talker*.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:57 pm

      When I think Judge Reinhold, I don’t think of him being the “close talker” on Seinfeld.
      I think of Phoebe Cates walking outta that pool. “Doesn’t anybody knock any more!?!?”

  37. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Fucking Krukow. He’s really a talented guy. Last weekend he was dazzling Miller on the radio, during lulls, with wonderful recreations of the calls of his favoirte vendors from his minor league days. The whole thing started with description of how close the players are to the stands in ST. Krukow’s renditions were like folk opera. But he gets these innalectchul notiions — the arm slot, of course, and now, the dead-arm time in ST. He becomes determined to prove his hypotheses. Lincecum threw 94 mph FBs in the first inning, but 91 in the 4th. His arm’s not dead, it’s just not at full strength yet. Everything’s fine.

  38. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    I’m over Sheen. I thought the “bipolar/bi winning” comment was funny but he’s just not that interesting anymore. He’s an legitimate ass, who isn’t too bright, going through an “I don’t give a fuck” stage. I think I liked him better when he was on drugs……..

  39. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    The umpire called the IF fly rule with no runner on 1B, no forcre play at more than two bases? Fire that piece of dung.

  40. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Yeah BF, Sandovallooks totally different. His face is not as round. He really lost some weight and tone up!

  41. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Wonder if he’s related to one of my first BB cards, Charlie Neal.

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:09 pm

      You had a Charlie Neal Bikini Babe card? Sweet. Fiery redhead if I recall.

  42. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    I really don’t watch tv anymore, at least for the last few years. Giants games, an occasional Niner game, a little bit of CNN. That’s it. I’ve never seen 2 and 1/2 Men. If it’s as good as everyone says it and it’s making the sick $ they say it’s making, then the producer is a pussy if he’s going to cancel the show just because Sheen said mean things about him…

    • DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:11 pm

      The show is juvenile, stupid, and appeals to the lowest common denominator. You’d love it!

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:22 pm

      My 13 year old kid digs it.

    • Nipper's avatar Nipper said, on March 11, 2011 at 11:17 pm

      Sniff…..my intuits tell me to skip it.

  43. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on March 11, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Sheen has lost it, he can’t tell the difference between the real Charlie and the one he plays on TV. It is kinda sad really.

  44. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Any of you ever watch Celebrity Jeopardy? They’re ALL fucking idiots. The one that surprised me was Anderson Cooper- total moron. I recall Cheech Marin being the smartest of the lot.And he’d be last in the Teen tournament..

  45. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on March 11, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Sorry but this is fucking killing me.
    I have to explain 11-4 and 4,6,5 to chuck
    See…the Giants won 11 games in the post season, lost 4
    First, they won against Atlanta 3-1, then they won against Philidelphia 4-2, then they won against Texas 4-1.
    Hence…

    • Nipper's avatar Nipper said, on March 12, 2011 at 8:15 am

      Chuck’s reply, “BLEEP YOU!”


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