Zito’s *Dominant* Spring, an April Contest and a POTW Vote…
Barry’s really dealin’ these days, isn’t he? 2.49 Spring ERA. Sparkling. Of course his 1/1 bb/so ratio is a bit hard to swallow. He’s holding opponents to a .197 ba–of course when you’re walking guys all day long it’s kinda hard to get the bat on the ball. But hey, Zito got a 2.49 ERA this Spring. Last Spring, his ERA was 6.35. The year before it was 5.12…
Of course, nothing Zito ever does is a harbinger for anything that is about to happen next. Therefore, I have what is quite possibly the most difficult contest we’ve ever held here at The Flap…..
What will Zito’s ERA be for the month of April? We could have 1,000 people participate in this one and it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if no one came within a full run of his actual ERA. But have at it, email me your pick to bigflavor77@gmail.com. I will throw some Giants schwag at the winner…..
Speaking of contests, it’s time to vote on the POTW— to the right you’ll see a page titled “This week’s Posts of the Day”– Click on it and you will find 7 entries. My personal favorite, if I read this correctly, was Ted actually doing a Capt Kirk impression with his post. That was gold. But maybe I was reading too much into that and he was just drunk. ๐
When I look at today’s BB, Somehow the Muddy Waters version of I’m A Man gets stuck in my head.
Or maybe, it’s just the stripper beat.
Pawlie – OD, Opening Day (Happy New Year) or overdose? You decide. I get in Thursday, head over to Harrington’s Bar and Grill on Front St. to visit with my old Thursday group. Friday, on the way to the Home Opener, stop by Red’s Java house to get some drinks from my buddy Rob the bartender. On my way to the Lot A to get my ticket, stop by the Public House and see if Kirsten is pouring. After the game, over to The Bottom of the Hill for their happy hour (either Greg or Matt will be bartending) and catch the sound check for Rube Waddell. Sat. Morning, back over to Pot Hill for drinks with my pals at the Connecticut Yankee, maybe catch the night game. 6AM flight back home on Sunday
Wow, Bozo, don’t what that all costs, but sounds priceless.
Talking blues with Unc yesterday reminded of all the small clubs our group used to hit up south bay 70s….saw Sunnyland slim on piano in downtown Redwood city near the pool hall on Broadway (old Little Fox maybe), great club in Palo alto corner of High and Univ. once called In Your Ear caught Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee, H. Mandel, Mose Allison and early version of Asleep at the Wheel (Chris O’connell on lead vocal with big Ray)…Charlie Musselwhite over at Keystone PA across the street from Antonio’s Nut House on Calif.
Just so much venues to hear this type of music, esp btw JJs of south bay (where you could catch Chris Cain for $5 at the door) and SF.
Yeah willie, but knowing the bartenders helps with the costs a bit.
I was down in LA once in the 70s and went to see Asleep at the Wheel at the old Palomino club. Before their set, I went to take a leak and big Ray comes walking in. I just nodded at him, I mean what the fuck else can you do when you’re pissing next to the star of the show.
How about a fat chick? Something to gross out Ted Spe. I look around and most gals are a bit heavy. Lets fact it, they love to stuff their faces with stuff.
…meant to add famous words of Clouseau, “not anymore.”
And Duck fuke!
So much of ST is irrelevant for the vets, Zito included. A year ago Nate had a slugging pct of over .500 Hideki Matsui is hitting .125 for the A’s, but he is not batting 8th or riding pine. This from Henry, “earlier in the day, in a continuing effort to fix Rowand’s swing (??), he played in a minor league game started by Colorado closer Huston Street. Bochy said Rowand had three hits.” Zzzzzzzzz
They’ve had all winter to fix Rohand’s swing, so taking a few cuts in a minor league tilt at the dog’s end of ST is going to fix it now? Double Zzzzzzz….
Don’t know who watched the Duke game last night, but that was the home of the Anahiem Royals (currently the Sacto Kings). Didn’t look much better than ARCO/Power Balance Arena. IMO
3 basketball teams in LA? What a joke.
Look for Larry to buy the Okla Sonics and mover them to SJ . . .
Yeah, the BB today, she’s not exactly at the beach. Stripping on Mission St?
Good to to see a baseball post ( from Z) nominated for POTW. There’s no other choice..
ZitBoy’s good spring is just more torture from the Prince of Darkness. Some of you are bound to fall for it. As I’ve told you over and over, the Zitter will face plant when it matters most ( see October 2). Had he pitched in the postseason, there would be no basking…
Flav, these polls were edgy and entertaining 3-4 years ago.
DJ has 0 votes, BTW . . .
surprise. how many times on the same joke? back in my smoking days, wasn’t 3 on one match considered bad luck?
Yup . . . 3rd on a match dies in a whore house.
Why? Who knows? That’s just what someone always said.
And, yes I know the real reason. . . .
4.89 for Bubble Boy . . .
The fuck. He’ll go right back to his usual 1-7 start.
“Gee, I really have to get more aggressive in the strike zone. If I could just trust my stuff, I wouldn’t walk 5 in 3-2/3, and give up a 3 run double . . .”
I got Baggarly’s book yesterday, and started reading it, and now I’m about 1/4 of the way through it, and my evaluation of the book so far is…..it’s great! I highly recommend the book. Everyone here should get it, IMO.
He takes an almost novelistic approach, and looks at the Giants’ season from different players’ perspectives in the various chapters. He takes the book title seriously as a thesis, he wasn’t just being cutesy with the title “A Band Of Misfits.” The coming together of the different individuals, their lives and baseball careers, and their remarkable team chemistry and journey through an amazing season is well done by Baggarly, and draws the reader fully into the story, even with the reader knowing how the season will end. I found myself so caught up in it, I was thinking- “Hey, are these guys going to make the playoffs!” That’s just real good writing- drawing the reader into the compelling story, even when they know how it’s going to end.
There’s plenty of new material for those that follow the Giants closely. I won’t mentioned any of his revelations because I don’t want to steal any of his thunder.
I really encourage everyone to get this book. Don’t think that it’s just going to be some kind of fluff or whatever. The book has depth to it.
Following them so intently last yr, a book seems like overkill right now. Maybe in 15-20 yrs I’ll sit down and get all weepy and nostalgic.
“I was thinking- โHey, are these guys going to make the playoffs!โ
There was supposed to be a question mark included in that sentence.
* Agree with Michael, POTD or POTW or POTY, whatever, here at the Flap, should be at least somewhat baseball related. Of course, that rules out any of my previous ramblings about Thai massage….
* Zito’s ST ERA compared to likely regular season performance = how possibly attractive the BBs are compared to how much enjoyment you all would really get out of any of them.
* Willied: Wow, really?, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee? Excellent. Once saw Asleep at the Wheel at a small club in North Beach whose name I don’t even remember. The best: Boom Boom Room, may it rest in peace.
* “Fix Rowand’s swing”. Um, did the team really say that?, or was that just Henry having fun with poetic license….
* Nice to think that not only does Bagg’s book have depth to it (courtesy of Z’s post) but that this team does too, and we are all in for another very entertaining and I truly believe completely rewarding season.
if I read this correctly, was Ted actually doing a Capt Kirk impression with his post. That was gold. But maybe I was reading too much into that and he was just drunk
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You’re correct on both counts… you… mutinous…disloyalcomputerizedhalf-breed.
I am Nomad. Eliminate imperfection. Eliminate. Eliminate. Eliminate . . .
Does not compute. Does not compute.
Dennis: Satisfied yet? This string of losses is giving me the creeps.
OK, I guess we lost enough now. I knew we were winning too much there in the beginning. It was bound to even out. But don’t go trying to pin the injuries on me. I didn’t ask for those.
Thanx, Dennis: Was getting to think you’d been messing with some Hoodoo Mojo or something. Injuries happen. No blame.
Today’s BB looks like a combination of Mariel Hemingway, Brigitte Nielsen, and a cyborg. Freekin’ scary, IMO. I don’t care if she bunts…
What was that M Hemingway movie about track and field? I think they filmed it at U of O.
Had a nice girl-girl love scene . . .
PERSONAL BEST
No one has yet acknowledged Sabean’s rootin’ for Rowand comments in the wake of the Ross injury.
No reason why Zito doesn’t pitch 190 innings with a 4.00 ERA in the 5 slot. Then they can just leave him off of the playoff roster again.
Of all the old timers I saw in various Bay Area clubs, Lowell Fulson at Eli’s Mile High stands out.
Yo, Flappers, what’s happening with Bay Area weather? Emails from friends there say it’s been very rainy. One thing I loved about living there was that games were rarely rained out, since baseball season pretty much corresponds with dry season.
For all you who grew up there, maybe you can’t appreciate that — I grew up in the ’60s in Joisey going to Yankees, Mets, and Phillies games, many of which often got rained out. (Horrible fans but actually somewhat knowledgeable about the game, and say what you will about the east coast media bias blah blah blah, I saw a lot of great baseball there). When I lived in Boston for 15 years in the ’80s into early ’90s before moving to SF, it was baseball heaven going to games at Fenway, even when the Sox sucked. Nice early autumn pennant race nights. Great fans. They know their shit. Many of them are assholes, but if there’s one fan base, in addition to the Giants’, that finally after long silence deserved a championship, it was Red Sox nation. Sorry, guys, it’s just true. But I went to about a dozen opening day games at Fenway when they had to plow snow off the outfield grass…. ugh…
Next couple of weeks, how’s it looking on the west coast?
The Sox fans went from suffering to insufferable in the general public estimation way too fast. Boston is the one AL team I pull for a bit, especially because of Epstein.
Yeah, Epstein’s been great there, and yes, Sox fans did get a bit insufferable, but they earned it, and it’s who they are. Interesting to read Showalter’s comments about Epstein, focusing on payroll rather than good decisions made. Good luck in Baltimore, Buck…
Saw Etta James at the I Beam in 86. Not quite old school, but a great show.
SHE’S old school. . . .
Saw her a couple of years ago at Jazz Fest in New Orleans. Not much left in the gas tank but she still was feisty.
More Big Mamma Thronton rather than Billie . . .
Paul, according to the experts we are suppose to start drying out starting Sunday. I80 over the summit has been closed since yesterday at noon. White out conditions. Hope to have it open by noon today. Sacramento river and American river at flood level stages. whatever that means. Wednesday evening was the worst. Had a funnel cloud touch down on a house in Williams. Glad it was not my roof. I am in Sacramento off Highway 50, I had hail, wind, Lightning and Thunder. Was raining so hard the drains could not handle the flow of water, about 2 inches worth of water on the roads.
Thanks, Kevin, and now over to Gary with traffic. Gary? How’s it look out there?
Ted, without peer, you are still the funniest Flapper.
Thanks, Paul, but I think it’s a pretty level playing field on the Flap. It’s why I love it here
Hey, I was auditioning for a job!! They saw your post and want to hire you intead!!
Thanks for the update, Kevin, wow, some pretty severe stuff for you there. May the clouds part for opening day…
Paul, check my post late last night for the latest snow report…
Crazy spring so far that’s for sure . . .
The marshland right before Davis is full of water. If I lived in Natomas, I’d be REALLY nervous. They built that shit about 8′ under the levees that surround it.
If those levees went, there’d be a disaster close to New Orleans. Shasta is close to full for the first time in a looooooong time. Folsom is full as well. And there’s another. 2′ of snow that ‘s going to add on top of the 8-12’ they just got the last 3 days. Crazy. When THAT snow melts, they’ll be dumping tons of water into the delta.
It hasn’t been a terribly unusual winter if you keep in mnd that we don’t have “usual” ones.
Wel, this is more reminiscent of winters when I was a kid. Rain from November to April. Not the usual lately of December to February.
I was just reading the Gwen Knapp article on the Bonds trial. I should have realized but it never occured to me that prolonged, extensive use of HGH could turn you into Rondo Hatton
A Rondo Hatton reference. That’s gotta be a first on a baseball blog.
Rondo, Vlad the Impaler, and Vern and Vera have all been parrt of my repertory group for sometime now, Bozo..

You forgot Gomez.
But yeah, Rondo’s come up before. Sometimes with pictures
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmTpEymaLY
Sorry Twin, I guess I forgot the Rondo ref. I loved that guy.
Wait, Vern and Vera aren’t really the names of Eli’s parents? Dang man, and here I was looking around for Vera’s meatloaf recipe.
Bozo: Nope. Vern and Vera are two of my more inspired creations, however. As to that meatloaf,Vera uses too much pork in the mix, which makes a “spongy” loaf. Her catfish and jello salads more than make up for that, though. I got one of her recipes with some skullduggery:

Well, vanilla instant pudding as a topping had to win her a Betty Crocker award. Don’t ya think.
Spider Woman Strikes Back. Now THERE’S a classic . . . House of Horros goes unsaid . . .
Up there with Angus Scrimm for having the Look.
I am more of a comedy guy. Abbot and Costello meet Frankentein and Abbot and Costello meet the Wolfman.
In a way I’m not sure I want to explain…that’s the same movie. Unless you’re kidding
I had a brain freeze
I believe that the “Meet Frankie” film was the only time Lugosi played Dracula after the namesake film..
You are correct, sir
In fact, now that I think about it, despite Lugosi’s reputation, it was only the 3rd, and last, time he had actally played a vampire in film. Only 3 times.
The Tall Man:
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Y’all probably know already. Giants game is on MLB network tonight.
Yes, thanks for the reminder, Zum. 6:00 MLB Net. First one to post the lineup gets to teach Chuck how to display pics on the blog.
Last try
Fuck, how do you code pics to display in a post?
I’m devastated twin, here I pictured Vern as looking like a Pa Kettle type and Vera I thought would look more like Aunt Bee. I don’t care what their names are, they should change them. I mean, according to Wikipedia, Eli named his kid Whittington “Whit” Jackson Whiteside. That kid just has to be related to a Vern and Vera somewhere.
That is all right Chuck, I have not figured it out either!!
BW played catch today. Rags deemed it “an improvement.” More catch tomorrow.
DH Torres, 2B DeRosa, RF Huff, LF Burrell, 3B Pablo, SS Tejada, 1B Belt, CF Rowand, C Whiteside or Stewart, P Bum
NO Whitey or Steward. That’s a toughie. I don’t know how Bochy does it.
I couldn’t have said it better Chuck.
Stupid html
Well?
Chuck’s got the hiccups
Either I don’t have the permission, or I’m missing aomething here . . .
Trying to post a pic and the html disappears.
I can code italics and shit, but n pics.
img src doesn’t work.
Still ain’t working
. . .
looks like you are missing a closing tag; or it is permissions. I was shocked when a url turned into a Utoob video.
recommendation: by the latest Microsoft product and all will be well.
just ask them.
that was for unca and this is for Zummie:
got my copy of Bagg’s Book By post today. Imagine a UK copy on the same day. I was just thru Kuips forward when the wife called me to supper. so far so good, but it does have the most realistic leather looking hardcover.
cheers
F1 racing starts tomorrow.
Wither Ayrton Senna?
Senna was the best F1 driver of his day. He was the 3x defending F1 champ when he crahsed and died while leading a race. I think it was 1993? 1994?
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An F1 racing reference, Ted He was an outstanding Brazilian F1 driver who died while leading a race some time ago. 1993?
Thanks, chuck Actually I Googled him already but thanks
If you don’t mind the danger, being an F1 driver has to be close to the best life available for a male between 20-40. If you’re decent, you make millions, you travel all over the world to some of the best cities imaginable, the night life in between races and training is awesome, and there is so much high quality tail chasing you that you probably “almost” get tired of it. Only thing in sports I’d rather do if I could — starting SS for the SF Giants…
Snarkk, I don’t know how much range you have, but given our current stable of shortstops I might take you on principle alone.
But can he bunt?
Hell, I’ve got loads of range. It’s the time it takes me to move in the range that could be a problem. Quick release, though. Just ask my wife…
snarkk – potd. though it’s not baseball.
Flav, WTF is going on with wordpress? Half the time I piost, I get an error message, when I repost, the old one shows up.
Damn straight, Snarkk. I met Mario Andretti at Laguna Seca when I was a kid, when he was racing F1. The girls following him around were stunning.
Better yet, rent Le Mans. Epic Steve McQueen movie. It was ripped by the press, but it was a good look at the behind-the-scenes shit in high-level racing.
I remember that one Chuck. Haven’t seen it in dogs years. McQueen and especially Newman did some real racing, although I think McQueen was more into bikes. There was also one called Grand Prix or something like that with James Garner in the late 60s?, when he was young and fit. I think that one was not as good. As if those dudes needed more juice to attract women…
I remember arguing with some friends when I was around 8 as to how to pronounce “Prix”
Grand Prix was a much better movie. the split screen at the start was unbelievable on the big screen (yes, i saw it there). the music was great (i still humm parts of it)
“do you ever get tired? of the driving?”
and yes, eva marie saint as well.
le mans. who didn’t want a Gulf porsche? great color scheme.
we used to go to laguna seca for the CAN-AM series. saw bruce Mclaren, the wing car and the vacuum car designed by jim hall. unbelievable stuff. the vacuum car was so loud, you couldn’t hear the engine, just the vacuum. very weird when it went into a turn. Denny Hulme filling in after Maclaren died. saw one of the Mclaran cars at a car show and nearly went apeshit. My stepfather raced against mark donohue.
chuck I don’t think there’s anything going on with wordpress. I think you just got in a funk with it when you started trying to post pics/links. WordPress doesn’t like that unless you are an editor (or higher ranked).
Rondo also showed up in one of the old sherlock holmes movies with Basil Rathbone as I remember, playing the part of the “Creeper” who dispatches victims for his boss by breaking the “3rd lumbar vertabrae” as Holmes tells the awesome Inspector Lestrade. Lestrade character was f-ing hilarious, with the overdone accent and general idiocy…”More of your theories, Mr. Holmes? It’s facts I’ll be wanting.”
couple nice whacks from Burrell going opp and Pablo cracking one to right, followed by line drive rbi single from Tejada while Pablo steams into 3B. Nicely done!
this is how fucked the Phillies are: Lidge hitting the DL might actually HELP them…….
Oh man, the prez blasts a ground double for a ribbie….There’s a contest waiting to happen: how many games into the season til he gets a real one?
Tejada coming along just about like he said he would-HR last game, RBI today..
I could give less than 2 shits about Tejada’s Spring. It’s all gonna be about how he tries to hit at ATT> Huff spent about 2 weeks trying to bang it out of there before he figured it out. Miggy better, too……
Then don’t mention anybody else’s fucking Spring.
It’s relevant because he told the dipshit beat writers and bloggers who were flaming on him how he got ready.
First time thru the Royals lineup Bum was sharp as a tack. Then the wheels came off. Boys in blue hit some hard shots off Farmer John. I’m not worried. His stuff was good, just missed with location too often. But I think Pablo has been spending time with Timmy at the In-N-Out. He’s put back on a few. Watch it there, Orson.
It’s your imagination…
Schulman tweeted he might look a little bigger. I’m just looking out for the Panda.
My post is directed at Tejada because HE’S the fucking new guy. And the declining guy. He’s the guy at a crossroads (I know you don’t think so, you are expecting a *Uribe bounce*, good luck with that) and in my opinion, MY OPINION, he either tailors his game to the park (which wouldn’t shock me but I don’t think will happen) or he dies many deaths in medium deep left field (which is what I believe he’s going to do)……
Name me one Giant (other than Mays) whose actually tailored his game to the home park. Or name anyone whose done that…
Well, Bonds did. They tailored the park to him and he tailored himself to the cove.
Huff. Fuck you, that was easy.
Yeah, he decided to hit the ball farther.
I’m not going to bother finding his quotes about the park. You can do that. I think he was quoted when you were…..occupied.
Look, they might not TELL YOU they’re doing it, but they do it. If you are suddenly employed in a cavernous park you fucking take advantage of the *caverns*. It’s got a flip side too: Let’s see what Adrian Gonzalez does at Fenway……
Fact: Guys that are on the backside of their career who go from small ballparks to big ballparks HAVE TO take advantage of the dimensions. It’s easy, stop trying to upper cut the ball out of the park and start driving it. Good things will happen…….
mays got robbed playing at the stick back in the day. hank played in two band-boxes, millwauke and atlanta. no way. NO WAY, hank hits 755 at candlestick. no way barry, with or without, hits 7 whatever at candlestick. No Way.
My late Aunt Claudia briefly dated Chief Noc-A-Homa.
Hey, Loo. Your favorite horse is attempting to win the world’s richest race off a layoff tomorrow. Not gonna be easy. What say you?
I watched Twice Over workout the other day, he looked like a beast. “In fine fettle” indeed.
my point is that if you are on the backside of your career and you move to a bigger ballpark you focus more on hitting the ball hard and less on trying to lift it. This is “hitting 101” people…….
Carnie Landsford was an idiot as a hitting coach. first thing he did was encourage the belief that it was “unfair”. good coaching.
“coach, i just got out”
“it’s not your fault, the park sucks”
“i’ll be in the bar”
“we don’t have a bar. but if you head over to Marketing . . .”
flav, you have an excellent point: you change your hitting approach depending on the pitcher. you change it depending on the park. time of day, hangover whatever. At pac belle, you drive the ball and hope for the gaps.
Frandsen got cut. Any use for him?
I’m sure we can get him for Buster and Belt..
He’s a good interview….
There is a HUGE difference in how this park treats LHers and RHers. And sorry-but many doubles are just HRs that came up short. The same advice Flavoro is giving for not trying to lift the ball will result in more HRs as well as doubles. Tejada should like Aurilia Plaza..
He ain’t what he used to be, Del, but he always makes a run. Prefer others.
Another couple of hits for Belt tonight. Just sayin’….
You don’t give a rookie #9 in Spring Training unless you have big plans for him.
Rowand killed two rallies. Just sayin’….
I saw the one after Belt K’d, first and third one out…Gamer pops up the first pitch on the IF….Whiteside follows with the ground rule double rbi. Figured that might be a highlight to remember.
Now, now. You guys are talking about Spring performance. That’s not allowed..