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Making a Case For Pat Burrell

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 10, 2011

Seems like we’ve talked about this before. I love The Bat but it’s hard to ignore the looming presence of Brandon Belt who continues to blast the ball all across the PCL. But when you look at Burrell’s numbers it just doesn’t make sense that he’s the guy who sits down right now. He’s still leading the team in HR’s, he’s 3rd in runs scored and his OPS is still over .800. That’s not a guy who you sit down for a guy who is still a *maybe* at this point in his career. It’s frustrating because our offense needs a kick right now. Mike Fontenot can only carry a team so far (batting him third was a cute little side story, and it’s worked up to this point, but this is all going to end soon, and not in a good way)…..

Basically, The Bat hasn’t done anything to lose his gig and he’s producing at a much greater rate than many hitters earning the same dough (and he’s certainly producing at a better rate of return than MANY players making 10 times what he makes).

I’d love to see Belt get a 2nd go-around. I just don’t see it happening at this point in the season. Maybe after June 1. Now, if only Belt could start taking some games at short stop šŸ™‚

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(Me and tizzle share the daily gas mask as we drop 3.5 pts each and….OMG!…rarer than a double rainbow, Berra’s Bombers gain the most daily pts of any team with a 2 pt jump in the standings. He’s at 19 pts and about to start picking off teams faster than Arazi picked off horses in the Breeder’s Cup Juvenile low those many years ago)…..

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  1. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Nice to see Ross in RF

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 8:58 pm

      Timmy threw over to first before a first pitch. They’re listening to me…

  2. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    I wish twin never brought up Pear Butt. Now when I see Posey’s ABs, his stance resembles Rowand’s. But purely in a natural buttoxian way.

  3. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Bochy might have to rethink those bunting opportunities- two runners on and no out. Timmy could win this thing with one run of support.

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Jints keep this up, they’ll be averaging 3.0 runs a game by end of May. Sheesh…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:02 pm

      They’ve done pretty well in games where they’ve scored 3 runs so far

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:05 pm

        4 or more 12 -3; 3 or less 6-13.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:08 pm

      I said they’ve done well with 3. Go look up 3!!!!!!!!!! or more

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm

        16-4 with 3 or more. . . . right?

        I saw that somewhere . . .

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:21 pm

      Yup. stix posted it here. Adds a touch, don’t it

  5. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    If nothing else our offense gives the good people at Roget’s a reason to invent new words for “anemic” to add to their thesaurus.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:22 pm

      flaccid

  6. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Can I get one?

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm

      Can you get one what?

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:08 pm

        Bleeder, flare, wounded duck, worm burner, dying quail . . . SOMETHING to drive a run in.

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:10 pm

        Make it one shot of Jack . . .

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:11 pm

        I thought Chuck was asking for another word for anemic. Try namby-pamby on for size.

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:15 pm

        Lethargic, will-o’the-wisp, logy, ahhhh fuck it. They suck.

  7. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Timmy!!

  8. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Mets beat the Rox!

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      Excellent

  9. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    I heart Timmy. The dude is like a little Jack Russel that bites you on the ass and won’t let go. His team scores like shit, so he ratchets it up, as needed. If he played hockey, the Sharks would have won that 5th game. I’m breaking out the rally bourbon to get Timmy a win…

  10. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    DeRosa’s swing does not look too promising. Stuff’s going to the right side a lot…

  11. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    He gets a little time, Snarkk.

  12. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Now that throw . . .

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      Off balance sure, but that throw looked weak as hell. He’s got a lot to prove, and fast. This team can’t afford a dude taking a roster spot with a gimpy wrist…

  13. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Let’s get a run here and get Timmy the win.

  14. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Torres swings at a pitch 6″ off the plate for the K. His speed sure helps walking back to the dugout…

    • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:28 pm

      He’s been on base twice and lined out to right, Snarkkles..

  15. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    All these fucking “reply” options. I fuck up about 7% of where I meant my reply to go.
    And fruckie just found the hole. Which sounds kinda dirty

  16. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    “If he puts up an 809 OPS over an entire season, he will drive in and score plenty of runs.” No.
    Not when the OPS is built on walks. Here’s the prognosis from BP: .232 15 HR 44 RBI 57 BB 111 K .342 OBP .760 OPS

  17. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Timmy, 8 shutout innings and squat to show for it. If he were on a team that scored runs, he’d go 26-7…

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm

      Timmy’s got two CYs, a World Series ring, and makes millions of dollars. Hard to feel sorry for him. (grin)

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      27-6.
      Piker

  18. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    I’m holding off on the bourbon, this could take a while tonite…

  19. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    sweet

  20. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Posey with the laser!

  21. mrmrbill's avatar mrmrbill said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Diggin’ the replay on Wheezy’s new pitch!

  22. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Last year he got 4.45. League average 4.45

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      a 4.45 what? What league?

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:37 pm

      I didn’t say “average”…

  23. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Does this mofo have an earwig?

  24. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Alright- let’s “walk off” this thing!

  25. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Is Kruk making up those times to the plate and throws to second? He has ’em darn near immediately?….

  26. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    “Pear Butt”, not bad at throwing out runners. Leads the league…

  27. eddacker's avatar eddacker said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    wow, what an inning, I woke up early turned on the game and BW is coming in for Seabiscuit. a walk, a hit and nothing to show for AZ!

  28. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    OK, now I’ve got the finger of bourgon goin’…

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      “bourbon”, hiccup…

  29. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    DARREN FORD

  30. eddacker's avatar eddacker said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    NoWhitey is what we want

  31. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Jesus, Huff is F’d up. That ball was over his friggin head…

  32. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Bleeder, flare, wounded duck, dying quail . . .

  33. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Ballgame!

  34. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Co-deeeeeeee!

  35. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Come to think of it…all these rich motherfuckers look like they have a fat ass. Don’t matter. Fat Ass Ross Just Won the FUCK!!

  36. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    YES!!!! You nailed it Flav . . . Late inning hit to win it.

  37. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    And the best part about this game not being extended? NO Whitey.

  38. Freshtodef80's avatar freshtodef80 said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Game!!!

  39. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Rally bourbon — 2 for 2 !…

  40. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Lincecum didn’t get the win and he came out of the dugout looking like it was number 20 on the season for him.

  41. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    After sweeping the Rocks and now this, anyone who fucking bitches should just eat their piece..

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm

      piece of what?

      • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm

        Huh?

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:52 pm

        Stash the rod, Danny. I said put away the gun, Vermin. My father put me on a hook once…once.

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:53 pm

        Piece of cake, baby! If only the Sharks had the G’s heart . . .

      • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:55 pm

        once

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:54 pm

      Must be a typo or deletion there or…I have no fucking idea

      • Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:57 pm

        Unless I read him wrong, I think TF was saying that anyone who bitches after that should eat a bullet.

      • unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:58 pm

        Mike’s talking about pulling a Kurt Cobain . . .

      • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:02 pm

        So…kill yourself for doubting the outcome of this game in a loud, messy, plastic sheet ridden empty bedroom. For family and loved ones to discover 4 or 5 days after the event?
        Something’s…just…wrong

  42. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    3 wins in 3 games for Weezy. Non-save situations? Bring ’em on!!!

  43. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Fucking Wilson. Love that maniac

  44. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    It doesn’t fucking matter who got the win.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      It does to the HOF, and to some Cy Young voter nitwitz…

      • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:01 pm

        Yeah, that’s why Felix won it with 12, halfwit. He can pick up the wins by holding runners and learning to bunt..
        You’re the fucking moron ragging on Torres, after he’s on base twice and lines out.

  45. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Winning rules!!

  46. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Fuck. love Lincecum too. Beautiful pitcher’s duel tonight
    Hollywood ending

  47. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Dominate at home, .500 on the road- things are groovin’!

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:58 pm

      just like a Sunday mornin’

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:03 pm

      You could be right. I think mine was “Easy, just like a…”
      Commodores

  48. DJLoo's avatar DJLoo said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Outstanding. Who bats 3rd tomorrow?

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:56 pm

      Burrell

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:58 pm

      Irrelevant. They’re all hitting for shit, regardless of what hole they’re hittin’ in…

  49. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Cody

  50. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Ah. A Bochy press conference:

    “Take a falling star and put it in your pocket, save it for a rainy day…”

  51. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Well, I’m glad they kept Ford up here.

    Ray Ray keeps on giving . . .

  52. eddacker's avatar eddacker said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    WTG CO-D
    I think ford stealing second put Huff in a mood, he was aggressive but couldn’t pull it out

  53. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Superlative starting pitching. Superior bullpen. The fastest Ford on the strip. And Commander Cody comes through again. Oh yes, and some of the best Home Cookin around. First Place tie. No looking back.

    One question: Is our .38 Special Drama Queen gonna do another Elroy Face and go deep into double digit wins? He’s developing a strange new habit. Can’t say i don’t approve. Just find it a bit novel.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:05 pm

      I love you stix. But I have no idea what that second paragraph means.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:06 pm

      But I’ll fight to the death your right to say it

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:07 pm

      Not to be picky, but….1/2 game out of first. (grin)

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:08 pm

      Maybe if I have another bourbon I can figure out what that means. Or, maybe not…

      • EdGdsnInExile's avatar EdGdsnInExile said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:29 pm

        Snarkk, thanks for ‘taking one for the team.’ Hope you have a good supply; it’s a long season!

    • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:28 pm

      Elroy won a shit load fter blowing leads. Not the same at all.

  54. unca chuck's avatar unca chuck said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Drrrrty vs Big Cat’s illegitimate son.

    Sanchez is due a strong effort after his last couple freakshow outings.

    Got to score more than one to get this done though.

  55. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    “If he were on a team that scored runs, he’d go 26-7…” Again, asswipe, he got the league average. Who gives a fuck what you meant? He gets the wins he deserves- hold some runners, bunt, he could win 20..
    But you have your usual whipping boy- Andres was only on twice.

    • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      “Andy”, is that better? That bat isn’t too heavy if “Andy” uses it..

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      too…hmmm….suburb

    • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 11:04 pm

      Bullshit, as always. When Buster is deserving of praise, I give it. He’s hitting like shit. But leaving Pablo off your little list says it all, Larry

  56. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Buster still has to hit… maybe as well as Fat Panda last year would be a start, Snarkkles. Oh wait, I meant “Paul Sands…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm

      Paul Sands?

      • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:26 pm

        He’ll bat ahead of Mike…

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:28 pm

      You want Molina back instead? He’s retired, case you haven’t heard. Buster has the lead or near lead of RBIs on this crappy hittin squad, and leads the league in throw outs on a staff that doesn’t hold runners worth a crap. Bustin on Buster is as asinine as it gets….

      • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:33 pm

        When a guy isn’t hitting, he deserves criticism.He’s hitting worse this year than Snarkklefuck whipping boy Pablo, I mean Paul, last year.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:36 pm

        The whole team is getting criticism, and rightly so for the crap hitting, but they’re still winning because of the pitching. You’ve been down on Posey since he showed up, for some insane reason. Now you’re calling him insulting names. Get over it. He’s here to stay, and was a huge reason they won the WS…

      • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm

        No, as asinine as it gets is “bustin” on a guy who comes off the DL to get on base twice.”Andy”….

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm

        No clue what you’re “Andy” is about. Don’t care. Still haven’t said why you’re calling Buster bad names. He’s the team’s poster boy, along with Timmy, for the next decade. You don’t like it, talk to Baer. Get used to it…

      • twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:47 pm

        What I ‘m down on is seletive criticism, fuckshit- and you are the worst culprit. As the totally repected Fangaphs site showed, Torres was the team MVP and top 5 in the NL. And you fucking ragged on him all year and start in his first day off the DL… But “Buster” and “Timmy” are off limits even when they do screw up. It’s disgusting.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:56 pm

        Blah, blah, blah. So tiring, your SOS. I criticized Buster earlier this game for being partly responsible for the starters’ poor record at holding runners, before I criticized Torres, rightly so, for swinging at a terrible pitch. And I’ve never given Torres an insulting name, like you’ve now given Buster, for some unknown reason, after ragging on him pretty much since he replaced Molina. So stick that selective criticism BS…

  57. Del Mar Dennis's avatar Del Mar Dennis said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    I think I’ll go eat my piece…of pie. There’ll be plenty to bitch about tomorrow. Good night, and good luck.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      Wait’ll you see tomorrow’s lineup

  58. EdGdsnInExile's avatar EdGdsnInExile said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Unless I go to the pub, I experience the Giants via Jon Miller on GameDay Audio. I noticed it especially during the post-season last year, but with each walk-off win this year, the crowd has roared. Not screamed, not cheered, but roared, such that the sound overwhelms the recording. Roared such that the seats and the whole place is in motion. It used to be you’d only see that with Red Sox-Yankees in October. We’ve got it. Our fans are a 10th player, even when they’re fewer in number on the road.

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:35 pm

      It’s got to be demoralizing to the Rockies tomorrow to find out the Giants won 1-0, and know how dominate the Giants are at home.

  59. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    All I know is..Giants..won
    And it’s time to say goodnight, gentlemen (question mark)
    And remember, judgment of any system, or a priori relationship or phenomenon exists in an irrational, or metaphysical, or at least epistemological contradiction to an abstract empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself.
    Yes, I’ve said that many times.
    But, when one wants to paraphrase in a medial manner that encompasses all classes and educational calibers, one only needs to say:
    Fuck you bozo

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      And I say that with love

  60. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    11 runs in 4 games. 4-0 over that stretch. Amazing, the pitching has been. If Dirrty can put one together tomorrow for a change, then we’ll know they’re really on a roll. Nite all…

  61. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Buster, Timmy, but not Pablo? Case closed, Larry..

  62. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on May 10, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    BTW, he *does* have a pear butt…it’s no epithet. It’s what it is. Look at it, and look at Panda’s last year. Tough call which is bigger..


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