“you’re not going to do it every night…”
Well put, Franchez…..
The line up and the offense wasn’t really any different than usual, we just didn’t have any late inning heroics. Not much else to say about the offense….
However, the bullpen is another story……..
I haven’t had any coffee yet and I did this without jotting any notes down so excuse me if I missed a run, but by my count the bullpen has now gone 19 straight innings without giving up a run. The last run they gave up was June 2 (2011) in St Louis–Mota gave up a 4 spot.
That got me to wondering what the record is for most scoreless innings by an mlb bullpen. I did a little light internet searching and came up with nothing before I was distracted by a spontaneous bikini-babe search…..
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She needs help with her meatloaf and her fantasy team. Ferretball……catch the fever!
The games and baseball and life overall are just more fun when the team wins. But I can’t bemoan a loss like last night’s, as frustrating as it is to lose when your pitching gives up only 2 runs. This team, for large parts of this season, has been without its originally intended starting CFer and lead-off hitter (Torres), starting RFer and clutch hitter (Ross), and starting 3Bman and best hitter this season (obviously Pablo), plus the team’s designated super subs (DeRosa and Fontenot and even Ford, who provides such a different dimension) on the DL as well. Throw in the loss of your catcher and arguably the team leader in Posey, plus a couple of vets not hitting as was originally hoped, plus hardly a winning record on that stellar starting pitching staff… Wow, truly amazing. In first place and confidently playing like a team that will occasionally have stinkers but ultimately be fun to watch throughout the whole season and playoffs, baby…. Love what Vogelsong has done, although I’m not sure that one “good” injury (Zito out of action but of course hopefully not in pain or duress) is fair compensation for all the bad ones….
Anyone concerned about bullpen overuse?
The pen has worked 174 innings, 9th in the league.So the answer Doomer Loo, is ” no”.
The thought did cross my mind.
I would be concern as much with mental fatigue.
Really? Why would their “mental fatigue” be more than, say, a team whose relievers have pitched more innings? The Reds are coming in tomorrow, their releivers lead the league in IP. They miust be a fucking wreck. Right?
I’m not talking now, but over the long haul. But I’m not freaking out over it, just something I might be concerned about.
Why? They are used less than average. But if it might be a concern for you, have at it. I’d be interested in your theory ,though. Medical science might, also.
Just a random thought. I’m not losing sleep over it.
They went through this last year, RT. The relievers and starters are used to this. Look what it got them . . .
The real beauty to all this IS that fact alone. These guys proved last year that they CAN win it all with outstanding pitching and fair to middling hitting. Like p-in-a said, with all the injuries and underperforming so far, this team is in 1st place. Once Panda is back, they address the catcher spot, get Ford/Font back (or a utility guy to be named later), and Huff either shits or gets out of the starting spot, the hitting will come around.
When it does, the games will more than likely be 5-2 wins rather than 3-2 wins.
They avg more than 3 runs a game last yr.
Well, they aren’t going to stay at this current pace, either.
They are at 3.57. The league average is 4.09, down from last year’s 4.32.
Chucklefuck- even if he hit .120, the team is not sitting their RBI leader.Clues are $99.99.
Leading this team in RBIs is like being the top tweeter in congress.
Huff should come around but 1 good game surrounded by 6 bad ones gets old . . .
These things can actually be checked.The NL average is 178 innings. You might also be surprised to learn that the pen is just 6th best in ERA (.3.23). Pads are 2.34. Saves 20-28. HR alowed: 7, best in league.
I wonder if the younger crew here is familiar with Mike Marshall’s incredible relief year of 1974.
He was a mental case by September, I’d bet.
We’d all be interested in your theory about Tejada hitting 20 hrs. 🙂
Good try, but not relevant. I was wrong on a prediction, not a theory, nimrod. I suppose you had him at .217 with 1 HR a third of the way in. Don’t weasel out-spit up this fuckdiculous “mental fatique” theory.
I’d move Huff off the plate a little. Maybe close up his stance a little. Try something! Does McCovey do anything there besides eat and drink for free?
I thought all the Midget League coaches practiced on the Splash. It’s the same fucking stance as last year. Here’s where RT’s amateur head doctoring can be put to use-why the good year/bad year? Does a good one tucker him out for a year? Or maybe it’s simple-the thong’s too tight.
Bullpen is the least of the Giants worries. There are no weak links in that BP. NONE. This season just about every team has two or three relievers with low ERA’s and who are reliable way more often than not. Some teams have four or maybe five solid relievers. With Casilla’s return and Affeldt’s resurrection SF has seven relievers who can be said to be above average in their roles. Mota can be misused as someone other than a long-man. Rest of the gang is generally quite effective from the 7th inning on into extras and recently has been essentially lockdown.
Added to the strongest 1-5 Rotation in the game, Giants bullpen caps a pitching staff built for the long-haul and into the post-season. Overuse would be indicated by more than one or two guys consistently pitching two or more innings on a fairly frequent basis. Bochy has not needed to do that with his BP. In large measure you can thank the strong rotation for that.
Actually, you can thank Bochy for that.
What Stix said in the first sentence.
If I may divert a bit . . . Yesterday I got to watch a player who was picked in Monday’s draft pitch in a state high school playoff game at Rutgers. The kid’s name is Kevin Comer and he was taken 57th overall by the Blue Jays. He’s about 6-foot-4 and throws in the mid-90s with a good, sharp curve and slider. A Toronto scout there said Comer hit 94, and was at 91 when he struck out the side in the 7th to finish a 7-0 shutout with 5 hits, all singles, 7 Ks and 1 walk. This after getting the call from Toronto late Monday night. Anyway, it was kinda cool to see a potential major leaguer play in one of his last high school games. It was also funny to hear the opposing team’s fans bitch to the ump about giving a generous strike zone to ”the draft pick.”
Any relation to the great Wayne Comer?
None of the articles I’ve read on him has mentioned that, so it’s probably no. The kid’s part-South Korean, too.
One of the more popular Flap predictions came true: Panda went to Fresno this year.
Howard Johnson and Boog Powell were also known for alternating good and bad years, I think.
Yeah, I got Howard’s waffles on a bad year..
Torres CF, Tejada 3B, Sanchez 2B, Huff 1B, Ross RF, Rowand LF, Crawford SS, Whiteside C, Cain SP
Just to shake things up a little, I’d flip-flop Torres & Sanchez /Tejada & Crawford/Ross & Huff
A little?
Swap Cain and Torres and yer on to something. . .
A third consecutive start for Rowand? He must be getting showcased as a part of the Reyes deal.
Who else are they gonna put out there Burrell?
Yeah, good thinking, DD.
Did it occur to ya that my preference might have been Nate in RF and Ross in LF?
Especially vs the right-handed, Maya today. I made no mention of Burrell.
Not sure who you’re responding to , Mr. Doomin’, I was referring to the Rowand trade nincompoopery..
LUs should be left to Bochy and me…
My sister showcased me once…once!!!
The Room B thinking on Nate is to play him even more….Bochy knows Nate’s history- when he plays everyday, his production diminishes. It’s looking like Bochy has found the proper balance.
“And we’re trying to get Row going. Mumble. Sure he’s battling it a little bit, mumble-grumble. But he’s a veteran. He’s been through it. We’re gonna need mumble, mumble-grumble his bat down the stretch. We’re counting on Row to contribute. Mumble.”
When the choices are Rowand/Nate, diminishing returns are nearly guaranteed.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Rehab news from Shea: “Bochy says Pablo still won’t be called up until 20-30 ABs in minors. Fontenot heads to Fresno in day or two. Ford little behind.” Other rehab extras: Rockies’ Aaron Cook is back in the rotation tonight after a final AAA start. Lindsey Lohan’s house arrest anklet went off last Friday. Reports that she tried returning it to a jewelry store remain unconfirmed.
If he makes it to Friday the 18th (doubtful), he’ll be in Sacramento . . .
I honestly hope that no-good SOB hits a homer today to make me look like a complete fool.
8 pitches for Matt
5 for Maya
These guys going somewhere?
Five pitches? Cain only threw eight in the top half. I guess they want to hurry up the game so they can start the ceremony asap. Front office members are getting their rings after today’s game.
Ankiel didn’t take long to go from nice story to “career garbage”. How is he still employed?
Steroids . . . or is it Adderal now?
I think Huff forgot to take his Adderal today.
That goes down in the book as a DP off the bat of Rowand. Talk about irony.
That was the best job against unfrozen caveman in all of these games . . .
Matty’s DEALING . . .
But so is Maya . . .
What the heck is it with our batters. In his few previous outings Maya was lit up like a row of Fourth of July roman candles. Does facing the SF lineup put something special into the makeup of pitchers who can’t make it elsewhere?
Guys that can’rt pitch don’t even get to the bigs. Why don’t you people enjoy the FIRST PLACE team you have?
Some pitchers on some teams make it to the bigs in much the same way as mud thrown against a barn wall may or may not adhere. Okay, so this guy is better than advertised ~ at least against SF. I am greatly enjoying the mastery Cain has demonstrated. Just wish it didn’t look so last few years for him in terms of run support.
Just 46 pitches for Maya thru five. That ain’t right. Even by our “standards.”
Example: the infield defense is now well above average and the OF maybe the best in the league.
As Kruk parrots my comment. They do that often
That kid over there at shortstop sure is one smooth mother. Effortless glide and throw. No problem.
Another great inning by Cain. Score the guy a goddamn run or two.
Must be up there as the quickest game of the season. The single by Desmond may have been a bit of a blessing in disguise as it means Morse leads off their 7th.
get some runs
cause if you don’t I will
– BRuth Cain
OK, who had Cain driving in NO Whitey in the office pool? That’s a carryover pool right there.
Yay Matty, someone’s gotta do the damn hitting.
I told ya Tejada wouldn’t HIDP
Only by the grade of God does he not . . .
Jeeze, Edd, Tejada did better than i expected.
crawford digging some of that song magic
Both of NO Whitey’s throws to second went Christopher Crossing.
Another gem by Crawford at short. Huge play. At least Whiteside can make the throw to first. He’s got that going for him.
Fucking Whitehead screws up . . .
Sniff!
“career garbage” just tied the game. My garbage guys came today. Every Wednesday 11:00 sharp.
Garbage pitch to .197 hitter.
How bout our shortstop!
The Craw!
Not the Craw! The Craw!!!
We lead in career garbage knocks..
And now Eli!
Ooh yeah. Liking Crawdaddy a bunch. And whodda thunk it Whitey turning into a hitting star to make up for past sins. Kewl!
Stairs is something like 4 for 37 now. And we’re bitching about Burrell?
That’ll make everyone feel better.
When’s the last time Todd Coffey tried a salad?
I noted his figure in another neglected pearl
Yes we are. He’s 5-36 . . .
Mac
did they show Coffey racing in from the bullpen to the mound?
he usually runs at full speed when he comes in.
It’s not helping
Who was that with the Giants? Garrelts?
coffey’s gonna put FH back at lucky 13
I’d let Cain try and finish it off. He’s at 101. No problem for the big horse.
if ross gets on, hit nate for rowand? I think so.
Never would happen
Flan with the steal! ! !
Unfrozen caveman Ks again . . .
Where’s yer dog, blue?
Ballgame!!!
That’s good. Cain doesn’t often go into double digits on strike outs
That’s a rough way to end the game. Shit happens.
I’m sitting here laughing my ass off, and Espinoza might have broke his wrist. Again, shit happens.
Yeh, that was really funny. Pathetic fucking comment.
Get off your sanctimonious high horse. He got HBP and swung at strike 3 to end the fucking game. That’s funny.
Well, if his wrist is broken we have a great poll question. Which is funnier?
1. Posey’s broken ankle
2. Espinoza’s broken wrist
Way to go Matty! That’s one way to keep the ‘pen rested.
Matty isn’t even remotely tired.
Hell of a game. . .
What a great way to start the baseball day- terrific game. Old school domination. We are the early ’60s Dodgers, and that’s just fine.
Now we got some other games to check out. Summer, baseball, ah…..it’s groovy.
Old school’s right. That was just a little over 2 hours.
Coulda been 1:30 if the end didn’t drag out some.
Utterly masterful performance by Matt the Horse today. Best of the season for him. With a Five-Ace rotation, through each and every turn there’s almost always one or more gems. That does make it tough on the opponents. Cain’s WHIP and ERA both took nice dives and the W. looks wonderful.
Amazing thing about today’s presentation was that the 7-8-9 hitters did all the RBI damage, one each for Crawdaddy, Whitey and the Horse. Guy hadda drive in the first run to show these batters how its done. Amazing what a good example can do. Going into the series some Flappers expected (or hoped for) a sweep. Nats aren’t that kinda team anymore. Saw a 2-1 split. Take two-thirds of your home games and half the road contests and its an almost sure ticket to the Postseason.
BP nice and rested for the Reds, so the Undertaker; the Little Birdie that Could; the Freak and Drrrrty have some backup in case of need. Reds didn’t do so hot against Dumpster of the Cubbies today ~ he with the 5-5 record and the five+ ERA. That guy is a strange starter. Seems to blow hot and cold. He was hot enough against the Giants some weeks ago and was nice and warm vs Cincinnati. Checked out those Reds bullpen ERAs on the box. Man, the ones who went today have less than 2.00’s. Now if they had the starters to match and with some of their hitters, that team could be trouble in the Central. As is they are a bit over .500. Giants take three of four? I’d give it about a 53-47 chance.
Never seen so many shut down relievers as there are today. As I posted earlier, our stellar pen is just 6th in ERA in the NL. 4 teams have relief staff ERAs under 3.
Gave the BP a nice rest. I never get tired of watching Cain pitch
Panda tio return to the team on Tuesday in AZ . . .
With his .371 BA, 1.031 OPS in AZ, I’d say that’s a pretty good decision.;.
RoughTrade: I was needlessly harsh with you this morning. I apologize.
Dodgers edged out the Giants in ’65. Mays had 52 HR, McCovey 39, Jim Ray Hart 23. Dodger leaders were Lou Johnson and Jim LeFebvre with 12 each. Giants doubled the Dodger HR total. I don’t thnk the Bums are giving their rings back.