Bring On Chapter 4
So if my blog experience had been a book, I’d probably say the table of contents looked something like this:
Ch1: The Splash
Ch2: blogger.com
Ch3: wordpress.com
Ch4…..The Stable Boys
And while it could not be argued that I’m a creative title writer, it is an accurate description of my blogging experience that starting a few days into the 2007 baseball season when I stumbled on to the Splash one day by accident. I didn’t even know what a blog was, I was looking for a Bruce Jenkins article and found a long list of blogger comments about the game that day. I got worked up over something I read, created a username and presto, I was blogging my ass off……..
Chapter 4 starts off like this: A bomb has been dropped on Flavor Nation. There are few survivors. Twelve to be exact. But they’re a resilient group and after wandering around The Nation for a while they somehow all make their way to an abandoned stable on the outskirts of town. Inside, there isn’t much. No furniture. No food. No water. But there is electricity and a laptop. One by one they enter, shake hands and discuss what to do next. There names, in no particular order, are: Snarkk, Dennis, WillieD, TedSpe, Twin, Ewisco, Dirt, Bozo, PawlieKokonuts, Chuck, Zumie, and Chi. They decide they need a nickname and one of them blurts out “The Stable Boys.” A few of them snicker quietly to themselves. Ultimately, they decide to be known as “The Dirrrrrrty Dozen”. They all gather around the laptop and stare at each other, silently. Time passes, maybe a few minutes. It seems like hours. Finally, the group gives themselves a collective *knowing dude head nod* and make a plan on who’s going to go first. I’ll stop now and let the rest of this chapter get written by them…….
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Anyway, there is a schedule that Dirt came up with and it’s been emailed around. Most of the ‘boys either can’t open it or can’t view it. If I was clever I would now say something like “Chapter 4 is starting off a little tough to read.” Bahahahahahaha!!!!! Ahem, sorry. At some point this will all work itself out. A schedule that everyone can view will surface. The group might find out that the schedule is great or maybe it’s a bit too limiting to their creativity. Some of them might discover that they want to post more often or less often. And that’s cool, I’ll fill the gaps and consult with them as we get this up and running. I will also keep managing the widgets to the right and moderate this place……..
And really, there isn’t much left to say. I want everyone to give this a chance and be positive about it. The 12 guys who’ve stepped up to keep this place running have earned my utmost respect. The blog isn’t going anywhere, I’m not really going anywhere either. I’ll still be around I just won’t be the protagonist that I was in the first 3 chapters. Chapter 4 is not the epilogue. It’s simply what comes before chapter 5……..
A Place To Talk About Giants Baseball 
A new start for the Flap and ironically, a perfect weather day . . . Hmm, coincidence? Does this portend a new “dawn?” Stay tuned Flappers . . .
Weatherproof games: Royals-Astros, Blue Jays-Brewers, Mariners-Diamondbacks
Tuesday should be a perfect-weather day for baseball, with clear skies and moderate temperatures across the land. There are no significant rain chances in any of the 12 roof-less ballparks hosting games on Tuesday.
McCartney’s 70th yesterday. Happy belated to Sir Paul.
I’m not a LU basher, but bochy took a lot of heat over shuffling different guys in/out. Pavs blog in particular seemed to be flooded with guys proposing a myriad of them. No more—this is a set group. The OF is set with Nate as the back up, blanco and melk being able to cover everywhere if needed. Belt has 1b, Theriot 2b, Pablo 3b and craw and arias at SS, with Arias capable of backing up other spots. Posey with a day of Hector at C.
I realize the suckitude of the bench guys like Huff and burriss and the new kid, but really they don’t matter much imo. They aren’t seeing the field or the plate very often and even if you DFA’ed them all they aren’t going to be replaced by anything except replacement level players either. We’ve seen pill gillaspie culbs already and they aren’t able to contribute muc at mlb level. Unlike the starters, who are set for now. And have the team playing winning and exciting baseball.
I think Frankel should take Timmy’s spot in the rotation. But Frankel did his best Matt Cain impersonation today. “The Horse” was perfect today. Simply smashing.
Wow…talking about absolute domination! Frankel with the “Perfect Game!”
Dennis, did someone forget to add some turns in jolly old England???
I agree Willie…absolutely. And when Burriss got the start the other day, I was saying WTF…but you have to remember…Theriot had played a long string of games without a day off. Everyone needs the occasional day, and Burriss, if nothing else, brings speed off the bench, and he is an average fielder (most often is not going to embarrass himself).
Not sure what to do with Huff, but on that occasion that Belt needs a day, Huff or even Posey at first on occasion is all good.
Bottom line, I sure do like the way the line-up is jelling right now. I could see a reallignment in the OF, with Blanco in CF, but that isn’t going to happen. Bascially, all three are capable of holding down CF, but I just feel Blanco in CF and Pagan in RF would be a better alignment.
Tough match-up tonight. Zits against CJ Wilson who has been lights out of late. Hopefully Zito surprises us and pulls a gem outta his ass, and that the Gigante’s bats can solve Wilson and tag a loss on his butt.
I actually started to say this the other day but tried to attach a photo and the whole thing went away so i said fuck it. But i like where we’re at. 4 games over .500, 4 games out of first and they’re not really firing on all cylinders yet. Now that the lineup has shaken itself out the offense should be less of an issue. Despite the perfect game last night, the bullpen still makes me a little nervous. h iccups by the two lefties, romo’s health and a cast of relative unknowns will do that i guess. casilla seems to have nailed down the closer spot. zito and timmy still big question marks but vogelsong doesn’t seem to have lost a step from last year so there’s still three very good starters. Three weeks to the all-star game.
Don’t look now, but Belt has pushed OPS up to over .800, past blanco and pagan, behind only melk pablo and posey. Only melk at .401 has better OB than his .378. He’s shown he can not only hit LHP but take them out of the yard at ATT…just hope I haven’t hexed the guy.
I doubt that you have “hexed” him willieD. Per Yahoo, “Huff could very well get the Wally Pipp treatment when he’s ready to come off the DL later this month.”
A poor analogy by Yahoo. Huff was hardly playing regularly when he got hurt and I don’t think Belt is reminding anyone of Lou Gehrig just yet…
Lou – LMAO…Don’t think anyone is saying he is Lou Gherig, but over his last 28 days (16 starts), he is hitting .293 with a .400 OBP, and a .934 OPS. That’s the best production the Giants have had out of the first sacker all damned year. If he can continue in some semblance of this…I’ll fucking take it.
Disagree Loo . . . When Aubrey Huff landed on the DL with a knee issue, Belt was quick to answer the knock of opportunity, hitting a home run in each of the first three games sans Huff. During that week, Belt hit .400 with three home runs, seven RBIs and four Runs and he had a 3:4 K-to-BB ratio in that span.
Per Yahoo, he was the No. 17 player in the Yahoo FL and since then, has “fallen” to 36. Belt reached base in all four plate appearances Monday, going 2-for-2 with two walks. Belt also scored a run and also stole his third base of the season. Yeah, I agree he hasn’t exactly lived up to the hype so far, but Belt’s .379 OBP is strong and I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually does live up to his Baseball America ranking (as the Giants’ No. 1 prospect after producing a 1.075 OPS across three minor-league levels (Hi-A, Double- and Triple-A)). In short, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I was writing as you already posted Chi . . . my post ditto’s your sentiments about Belt completely.
The baseball term “Wally Pipped” when used correctly, refers to a regular everyday player losing his job to a fill-in who exceeds expectations. I don’t think it was used correctly here, although I don’t see any reason to make a federal case out of it….
Your friend,
DJLoo
(A tribute to Midwest Ed – remember him, Flav? He should be in Chapter one)
You’re absolutely correct, I wasn’t disagreeing to that though (as you pointed out, Huff was on his way out regardless) . . . I guess you would be right about Belt reminding anyone of Gehrig too. As Maxwell Smart would say, “Would you believe J.T. Snow? How about Sneezy from the Seven Dwarfs? Happy? Dopey?
Craig – that was wild how you “stumbled” upon the Splash. I had a similar experience in that I was looking for a particular article and also found the Splash. I remember many of the vets who are now part of the Flap and also that initial invite to “come to the dark side” (the original Flap). Was chuckling the other day thinking about that site and the Titties of the Day (or something to that effect). Interesting how this thing has morphed and grown over time.
Major John Reisman: You’ve seen a general inspecting the Flappers before haven’t you? Just walk slow,act dumb and look stupid!
Is it me or has Bagg’s lost something off his fastball with the move to comcast? Rather than the long, comprehensive posts of the merc, he seems to be filing more frequent, little items with nothing really insightful or breaking news-ish. Also there aren’t much in the way of comments. Alex and steward seem to have picked right up where Baggs left off.
Agree with you on Baggs. At the Merc he kept it crisp and I used to read his blog regularly but now I hardly even bother. His posts are lacking in humor, content and frequency.
I also noted awhile back that Baggs seems to be almost a management guy now.
Hmmm…I was just reading his piece Loux, etc. It has quite a few threads in it…one being that it appears that Jerome Williams is stable and will be back at the yard tonight (he was sent to the hospital last night when he had trouble breathing after coming out of the game).
I will agree that I don’t read his stuff nearly as regularly as I did when he was with the Merc. But you have to realize that with Comcast the expectations and job description are different. At the Merc, he had one piece to write. At Comcast, he writes a number of articles on any given day, and also does on field analysis and studio video pieces. He is certainly more fragmented.
And I agree that Alex and Carl are doing an excellent job picking-up where Baggs left off.
And how about the bullpen last night? Fucking lights out…retired all 12 they faced…no hits, no BB, and 3 Ks. Fuck Yeah!
And I am going to savor it…as I mentioned earlier…CJ Wilson has been on fire. May be a rough night for Los Gigantes.
I remember in the first month saying we weren’t going to see a Set LU anytime soon. A lot of folks were complaining and saying Bochy preferred to shuffle guys around.Which was poppycock, of course. As guys played their way into and out of the LU, we got closer and closer to the set LU every manager prefers. Burriss (who deserved first crack at 2B), Nate, Huff all had chances to get everyday time-and failed. Meanwhile Blanco, Belt, and Theriot “made their stands”
To follow up on Willie’s comments on Belt, and I’m not discussing whether he should have started all along, whether it’s “about time”, none of that- he’s doing it now- we can just hope it’s for real. His OPB, OPS,wRC+ are all in the upper tier of NL first basemen. Then there’s “Mario”Crawford- who has lifted himself 32 points above Mendoza’s line and improved his defense. We have a good LU- when Pablo gets it going again and my Haitian Mojo Restorer finishes with Tim, we should be cruising past Donnie’s boys.
Nice synopsis, Twin. As Soph would say…”spot on.” 😉
Soph is now ninergal1 and she says our only hope is to hang on for a WC because we lack the “it” factor..
Really? I hardly ever frequent the Splash…would not have known. Regardless…sounds like “same shit, different day” for her (or him)…
Actually, chi, soph mangled that one as well. Used to redundantly post “spot on right”
Interesting read on who should start for the Senior Circuit in the All Star Game.
http://tinyurl.com/7msfoew
Literally splitting hairs…but of course I have to go with my Home Boy Cainer!
It will be real interesting . We have 5 pitchers who have the numbers and 3 position players. We know we won’t get 8. Here’s my revised breakdown.
Melky- in
Pagan- a victim of numbers-out
Posey-in
Cain-in
Bumgarner, Casilla- I think only one gets in, that’s a real tough call. It’s coin flip for me
Vogelsong- there was a lot of flak that he got in last year. Out.
Romo- deserving but he gets hurt because we have so many other qualified players. Out.
On the pen- the mop up guys, in particular: uinlike Casilla, Romo, the loogies… Loux and Kontos aren’t here to stop the other team in it’s tracks- it’s to keep things under control. Even with his occasional blow ups, that’s what Mota was so good at. I’ve always thought it was a job for guys who been shaving for a few years. Loux in particular isn’t a journeyman for nothing but that journeyman status can be an asset- he’s been around enough and knows the deal- he’s not going to freak if he’s greeted with a laser up the midddle. The kids we had seemed hellbent on turning 3
run deficits into 7. Loux’s inning was huge last night. It was too early for the top guys, that one inning got them there.
Agree, Twin. Both Baggs and Alex P. wrote pieces focusing on Loux, and there are a few quotes from Loux…he gets it…knows his role, and did a kick-ass job last night to set the table, for as you say, the “top guys.” Was good to see Romo come back from a tough outing…not surprising, but good. And Casilla did just enough to keep things interesting, to put it mildly…
To be honest, with Casilla so far, I’m not missing the Beard’s constant high wire act at all…
Last night’s game was a fine win, but. It reminded me of why I do not like the AL game, and why I hope it doesn’t take over the NL game. The 4th inning was 45 minutes or 50 minutes long, I think. I was at my health club on the elliptical, and I blew off an extra 100 calories watching the bottom half. Cain was tired, but it was interminable. Time of game 3:21, not horrific, but just seemed ultra long. Seems to me the AL game, with the DH, is always tons of pitch taking early in counts regardless of quality of pitch, lots of waiting around. With the DH, there’s lots of strategy missing, less focus on small ball and creating runs. Just seems damn boring to me, even if they score more than NL games…
For what it’s worth, I did a quick look at last night’s interleague tilts. 4 games in AL parks, 5 in NL parks. Average time of game (total minutes):
in AL parks, 180;
in NL parks, 158 …
Snarkk, related to that, in fantasy league, you have to pay way more attention to AL pitching matchups, i.e., there are few “weak sisters” out there. I hate any of my AL pitchers going against the Yankees, Boston, and Texas. Too masochistic for me, unless I have a stud like King Felix (who frankly, has been un-stud like lately) or Verlander.
I don’t get to caught up in the DH debate but I don’t watch AL games either. The game naturally lends itself to the pitcher hitting. It keep the pace of the game going and creates the need for strategy in the later innings.
Funny how Selig, in his quest to speed up games, never talks about doing away with the DH.
DH will always be. More jobs and the union will always support it.
excellent all star game news
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120619&content_id=33556622&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb
So, did anybody watch this last night?
It’s fantastic to see his personality shine through. We always get the *game face*, I don’t think I’ve ever seen him smile before, lol
#11: Bang Mrs. Vogelsong…
Number 10 – Bang Mrs. Vogelsong…
Nice mini-thread on Belt started by WillieD earlier this morning. Belt is starting to get in a groove, get comfortable, now that they’re just letting him play. Pill is gone, Huff’s on the DL or wherever, so there’s less pressure to hit or sit. His D is always there, now he’s starting to hit the ball harder, and he’s getting on base with that good eye. I’ve got hope for the kid. I think he can be JT Snow with 15-20 HRs when he hits his stride around 26. That would not be bad at all…
I take a few days of the Flap after the Perfect Game and wow did I miss a lot….
At the time it first surfaced, it really was ridiculous that Brandon was 4th inn ASG voting at first base. Now it’s just about right- he’s fifth in wRC+, second in OBP, and with his defense, fourth is right. The joke now is Freeman in second
It’s still ridiculous. He should have zero votes.
His numbers make your position a joke, Loo.
OBP-2nd
wRC+-5TH
OPS- 5th
Defense 6th
4th or 5th is right- Freeman’s votes are thrown out.Berkman is out- 40+ AB, ridiculous.Howard-fergedddit.
Proper top 5: Votto, LaRoche, LaHair, Goldschmidt, Belt
Maybe this will clarify it for you: Belt, Freeman, Howard & Berkman should all have zero votes.
Maybe this will clarify it for you- you are wrong. I forget- are you the McGehee guy? how many votes are you giving him.
The only way to justify the Belt with zero votes nonsense is to say no one but Votto deserves any.
Belt does not deserve a single vote. Of course the same can be said for many others. Why is that beyond your comprehension?
Loo, that’s ridiculous. Using the stat promoted by Craig as the best for measuring offensive production, he’s fifth among NL first basemen- and his defense is not questioned. He is deserving of 4th or 5th place in the voting . But let’s see the NL first basemen that you say deserve votes.
No. The real farce is that Crawford is 5th amongst shortstops. To which I say. Nipper, stop voting.
Dennis …..it’s getting close to your happy hour.
At least Belt’s a little more deserving this year than Ryan Howard, who somehow has 677,368.
Pill is more deserving that Howard this year. Huff is more deserving.
Belt at 5…absolutely. He has really picked up his game of late (I posted his numbers over the last 28 days/16 starts)…he keeps moving in that direction, it’ll all be good.
I agree with Snarkk’s early comment about him having potential to hit for a decent average and knock out 15-20 HRs.
It’s a weak field at 1B this year. Some guys who were highly touted have laid big fat eggs.
Over easy?
But Belt, especially with his recent surge, has by far given the team the best they have had at 1st this year.
C’mon, Chi………that’s like bragging about taking a bigger shit than the guy in the next stall.
A good shit makes for a good day.
Oh, like you’ve never done that
I’ll heartily agree with Snarkk about the slowness of AL games. Jeter ABs are glacially slow with how long he steps out between pitches. Seems like more of that slowness in the AL.
The NL has won 3 out of 4 of the last World Series, and plays a crisper, better brand of baseball, albeit lower scoring. AL beer-league softball 13-6 games are less entertaining than NL 4-3 games, IMO.
AL encourages the fans to imbibe more.
I agree on the NL/AL stuff, and I believe it was Dirt’s comment about the DH taking away from the strategy of the game (whether to pinch-hit for your pitcher, etc.). AL is a fucking abomination of how the game was meant to be played.
Well maybe that’s also true about the 3 point shot in basketball…
Baseketball? WTF is that? Is that a sport???
unlike the dimensions in baseball (90 ft, 60′ 6″ etc.) the dimensions in basketball have not held up to the growth of the players. the court needs to be wider, the basket higher, the key bigger and the three point line, which is a great zone buster (but only if you permit the zone!) needs to be pushed out. I’ll be holding my breath while changes are made.
I’d be interested to hear what WillieD thinks about it. I bet he remembers Darrel Carrier…
Belt will easily surpass JT Snow as a hitter. I’d be disappointed with anything less than a career .300/20+hrs 90 rbi guy. He’s just getting warmed up.
Who else agrees that Belt is not deserving of even one vote?
I do!
Belt has a great name.
If the ballot is to be taken even slightly seriously, then Votto should be almost unanimous. I could understand LaRoche and maybe LaHair getting a few votes from their diehard fans. All other first baseman deserve ZERO votes. Maybe the key word is DESERVE.
Well, then don’t take it seriously- which means no ASG vote could ever have been taken seriously. Picking Belt out was an intentional provocation, though. He is the fourth or fifth best first baseman so far, so until things change, he *deserves* the 4th or 5th most votes.
Nate is homerless and has 2 RBIs in 76 ABs since 4/23…
I’m gonna go vote Nate for the ASG.
I vote to let Dennis start his happy hour early!
Loo, DESERVES? the casuall fan does not know what that is, every stadium is handing out fistfulls of ballots, not counting the ones that are filled out on line. So naturally there are going to be those UNDESERVING. Belt IMO is DESERVING.
Well said. I can’t agree more.
Turns out he’s just challenging that so many players can get votes and also attempting to make his opinion a fact. If the exchange between Loo and I occurred this Sunday, it would have ended about three comments in. As it is, it’s now over on my end.
It’s a popularity contest, for God’s sake. Guys who haven’t played all year sometimes get voted to start.
To think it’s an accurate barometer of the current ‘deserving’ guys at each position is ludicrous.
Chuck is right on. Deserving…..what a laugh!
It was in the late 60s that the game was played in Cincy. The team or stadium stuffed the ballot box and got like 7 postion players voted in as starters.
Have not seen this posted yet
Blanco RF
Theriot 2B
Cabrera LF
Posey DH
Pagan CF
Sandoval 3B
Belt 1B
Sanchez C
Arias SS
Zito LHP
Thank goodness for the DH!
Don’t know if this stat has been posted, I think it has but it is over on Pav column
— In 1958, Willie Mays picked up his 100th hit in his 295th plate appearance. The next closest to that mark in Giants history is Rich Aurilia, who did it in 308 back in 2001.
Melky Cabrera has 98 hits in 289 plate appearances
I see Loo’s point but it’s trying to add a certain logic that goes beyond the concept of what the ASG actually is.
I see Loo’s point as well. And it’s no big deal either way and I think Ted is right, too. Loo, you’re turning the all star game into something that it really isn’t, at least for the commoners. It’s just a popularity contest. I’m surprised that Belt is 4th just because I can’t believe so many non-SF fans even know who he is. I’m also rather surprised that Melky is garnering so many votes. I didn’t think the common fan paid attention to anything out west…….
I’ve added a page to the right called “Flap Post Schedule”. You can check that out, see who’s posting the next day, and let that be a deciding factor to how quickly you come to the flap in the morning. 🙂
The Giants accumulated a ton of new fans after they won the world series. And there’s no better evidence of that then Crawford being 5th in voting at SS. I don’t think it’s a Bay Area thing, voting for all star games is pretty low on the list of Nor Cal fans. That’s more something you get going with people in the midwest who have nothing else to do. Crawford’s good looking, maybe he’s scoring votes from all the ladies……..
This is well said, we all need to remember this when we start to think “My way or the highway”
“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, the only way, it does not exist.”
–Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, (1844-1900) German philosopher
words to live by. POTD>
Then again, if you’re with a young Sean Young in the back of a limo, any ol’ way will do…
http://tinyurl.com/d26vknf
Anyone read this yet?:
http://espn.go.com/dallas/mlb/story/_/id/8073671/texas-rangers-dave-barnett-blames-strange-lapse-migraine-headaches
I get migraine’s—these aren’t headaches this is an imaginary samurai swordsman stabbing in the brain with his sword for several hours. I get the tracers and everything. I don’t know what type of migraine this guy is talking about because I’ve never heard of a true migraine headache causing that type of behavior…….
I was thinking the same thing. Migraines are often used as excuses for odd behavior and going home early from work but *true* migraines are freakin’ debilitating. George Burns wife, Gracie Allen, had migraines and they actually had a windowless room built painted entirely in black just so she could rest there when one hit. I remember Jose Canseco used to pull the mirgraine card a lot when he missed a game. I always wondered if he was full of it.
Friend of mine has ’em. Same kind of thing. Any noise, light, or sound makes her extremely distressed and sick. Along with the intense pain.
Was that in the Olympics where the woman reporter started talking gibberish?
To hell with the ASG vote, the Giants are going to have a Frank Sinatra bobblehead night in August.
For those interested, Frank played first, never second but always scored.
I once saw Sinatra throw before an A’s game. Threw poorly of course. Dribble to home.
He must have been pretty old by then. Sinatra was actually a pretty good ballplayer. Hell, he was *from* Hoboken, the birthplace of baseball
And by the way…an A’s game??!!
Ava Gardner was the only one that ever threw him out of the game, and he never recovered.
Result, “Only the Lonely”, one of the greatest albums ever recorded.
If you don’t like “One for My Baby”, well, that’s a pity…
http://tinyurl.com/262h4vh
The gold standard
I’ve played that Frank video on Chuck’s blog on more than one occasion when I’ve had one more for my baby and one more for the road. And there’s where I usually found myself waking up the next morning, either the road or the floor.
“You’re not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.” —Dean Martin
Who decides who the *deserving* players are? There’s no real world point that Loo was making. Having some committee decide who deserves to even get a single vote is ridiculous. As far as Belt, since it can very convincingly be argued that he’s the 4th or 5th best right now, his place in the voting is just where it should be.
4th or 5th? I could argue that, but won’t.
Loo was saying that with someone like Votto, and such a below average crop of 1st basemen in the NL, then NOBODY should get a vote except Votto. At least that’s how I read it, I only read it once, and I’m not going back to see if I read it right.
He wasn’t targeting Belt, if anything he was casting a wide net and calling out an entire group of first basemen. I see his point…….
But if we’re going to go with Loo’s idea, can we expand it? I paid no attention this year so I don’t even know who won, but that Scotty McGoober kid had no business getting a single vote on American Idol last year.
An American Idol analogy. From the urban dictionary, how appropro
Non-AMA approved migraine treatment..
“Loo, that’s ridiculous. Using the stat promoted by Craig as the best for measuring offensive production, he’s fifth among NL first basemen- and his defense is not questioned. He is deserving of 4th or 5th place in the voting.”
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Let’s try it again. This completely supports my point that Belt does not deserve one single vote as the STARTING NL first baseman. How could anyone argue that? The ballot doesn’t say pick your top ten.
I responded to this above but with all the pictures and videos being posted lately (there could easily be less of those) I’m not sure if you’ll see it. Here’s what I posted, is this what you meant?
Flavor said, on June 19, 2012 at 6:21 pm (Edit)
4th or 5th? I could argue that, but won’t.
“Loo was saying that with someone like Votto, and such a below average crop of 1st basemen in the NL, then NOBODY should get a vote except Votto. At least that’s how I read it, I only read it once, and I’m not going back to see if I read it right.
He wasn’t targeting Belt, if anything he was casting a wide net and calling out an entire group of first basemen. I see his point…….”
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So who decides who is deseving and when is that done?
the fans decide. And I’m fine with that. I wrote Gregor Blanco in on the single ballot that I cast this year. I don’t give a shit why they vote the way they do. I’d rather watch a game where Bonds is throwing guys on his shoulders, Heath Bell is sliding into the mound and John Kruk has got his helmet on backwards. All I was saying is that I understood (or thought I did) what Loo was saying…….
I don’t give a rat’s patoot who starts the AS game. The fan voting is mostly a popularity contest, and the managers bring into the extra spots their own team’s players, just like Bochy did last year. Most players hit only once anyway and then they’re done. It’s nice seeing the various good players on two teams, but hardly worth trippin’ about. The worst thing about it is that the winner’s league takes home field in the WS. Asinine, and hopefully gets changed when Selig the dunce leaves town…
It’s an honor for the players. At least most seem to think so. And I enjoy guessing who will make it, you don’t. No biggie
There is not an interface to pick 2nd, 3rd. 5th, whatever… as you acknowledge. Until there is, this system is as good as it gets, and in Belt’s case- his position in the balloting is fair But again- it’s not your call on who deserves votes for 1, 2, or 16. And there is no way to ever implement a system where only the *deserving* are on the ballot.
Do you guys still watch the All Star game? I may watch an inning or two but I think it’s been years since I’ve actually sat down and watched the game. Maybe it’s just my thing but I don’t even care if a Giant is named. Well except the pitchers. And, I only care about the pitchers because I’d prefer none of ours pitch in the game.
I watch the beginning innings and I usually catch the end, though I’ve missed most of several games over the last 10 years. There really isn’t a lot of action. Plus, we have quite the history of failure from our SF Giants. But I’m going to throw out my third prediction of the year, the 2nd since *the prediction* so feel free to pat me on the back after it happens: Melky wins the MVP of the game. Book it.
I watch it. I enjoy it. And I like seeing our guys in it. And the voting usually shakes out fine.
I agree. i don’t even mind the old guys who aren’t really producing getting voted in, it’s a nice send off.I wish there were more pitchers so we wouldn’t ever come close to running out of players again. And I think the most a pitcher should be able to pitch is 1 inning but even as I’m typing that I think that’s SOP….
Last year was a good year-Wilson saved it, Pablo had an RBI double. It was worth watching the whole game for that. For me, anyway.
And in other news, Secretariat, dead since November 1989, just set a new track record for the Preakness…
by the way Loo, in today’s thread when I wrote “Inside there isn’t much. No furniture. No food…” etc I thought I was tossing you a softball. Where was the reference to your apartment? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Well I’m glad people are still into it. The last one in SF was the first time I went out of my way to scalp my tickets. Yankees, Red Sox come to town, I just sold my tickets to friends at face value. Same with play offs and World Series. The All Star game I sold the tickets for a huge amount of money and left town. Only regret was after I sold the tickets and had my plane tickets, the Giants sent me an invite to be one of the flag holders. But the game itself, no.
Maybe the coolest thing about scoring the Cain call- you never have to hit another. It would be *nice* but it’s like, how many times do you have to hit the Super Lotto ?
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See you tomorrow.
Also, when I voted for the All Star game it was who I thought was the best players at those positions. Would I have voted for Belt, no, I love Crawford (I’m in the minority, I know) but he wouldn’t have gotten my vote nor would my guy Blanco. Do I have a right to pick who I think deserves a to be an All Star? You bet, the minute they gave me a vote.
I’m not trying to stir something up here but I am in a pretty shitty mood right now so I’ll just log off.
Get a win Giants.
You’re in a pretty shitty mood? Fuck you, Bozo!
Hopefully that pepped ya up some.
Well, guess that marriage improvement thing for Zito is wearing off a bit…
i would pull melky right now. he obviously tweaked something and he’s too valuable long term to worry about this game.
Bad Zito’s arrival is pretty much on schedule. Another one of these, and he’s going to need to develop yet another injury. With Bad Zito showing up, plus Lincecum’s troubles, time for some tough decisions soon in the front office re: the starters. Hacker, Penny?…
Get Loux up and put him in there before the game is out of reach…
Sheesh, Zito is pitching like this is a throw away game.
i’m telling the boys, don’t let him hit. don’t let him hit that double that he’s going to hurt himself trying to get to second. but NO!!! and then, bochy leaves him in!! what the feck!!!!!!!
i’m literally pounding the fecking keyboard. you CAN NOT LOSE MELKY CABRERRA FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD WHILE YOU FUCKING LOSE TO THE NEVER SUFFICIENTLY DAMNED FUCKING ANGELS.
9 hits off Zito in 3+ innings. Sheezus. Is Bochy waiting with the hook until they get 7 runs?…
AL managing? Who know’s. He’s been horrible though and his bullpen is fine, he can pitch anyone tonight (and should, ZIto is lost again right now)…….
Bochy obviously was trying to get more out of Zito to lessen the impact on the Pen. But, come on, Zito obviously had absolutely nothing since the get go. Now, he brings in Kantos with the bags loaded. That’s rough…
Uh, not rough. Correction. That’s 3 more runs onto Zito’s ERA now…
I’m doing other shit and don’t have the game on but I did see Melky’s double-step and after he did it he kissed his finger and looked to the sky quickly (when he was taking inventory). I’m not religious but it seemed to me that he was doing a “Please God make sure the hammy is ok” prayer. I hope he’s told the training staff what he seems to be telling God……..
i’m saying it right now. Bochy should never have let Zito go out in the 4th. He obviously had nothing. It was a hope and a prayer he’d get out of it alive. Now, instead of 5-1 and maybe a shot at winning, it’s 9-1 and start emptying the bench. Bad Zito is back with a vengeance. And, I said at 7:49 at the second inning to just get his ass outta there before the game got outta hand. Why do we have Loux and Kantos if not for this type of deal? Gnite Flappers…
If I was writing tomorrow’s thread, *ouch and ugly* are two words I’d use a lot. Except I don’t really write about the game details so maybe that would be a post about *stable boy lore*. Yikes. Pawlie K, I’ve never been more excited to not do a thread in the morning. 🙂 🙂 🙂
SCAAAAAAAAARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I called this piece of shit (check out my post from Seven Fucking Thirty Nine). I’m ready for the rubber match…this shit is just absolutely unwatchable.
Looking forward to the FIRST Dirty Dozen thread tomorrow…no pressure Pawlie. Make us proud!
I’m out Flappers. Keep the Flap Flag Flying!
is it just me? 9-2 and melky’s going to hit? FECK!!!
Oh hell…I bailed on the game a LOOOOONG TIME AGO. He must be good to go if he is going to hit.
Fucking A’s over the Bums 3 zip in the 6th. Go A’s!
Okay…I’m REALLY out now…wanted to throw out some good news on the A’s – Bums.
Damn, if not for a couple of good plays there by Pujols, the Giants would be right back in this.
You realize, of course, that Pulojs is a cross dressing, vegetarian, Muslim, yet Jewish Nazi, cannibal,monkey brain eating,philandering, self mutalating,smelly individual.
And I mean that in a good way
No wonder he’s only 5th in the All-Star balloting.
EXACTLY MAC
AND WE GOT OURSELVES A BALLGAME HERE!!!!
Who was the first asshole who said that?
Missed the last 2 runs, but lotsa guys LOB.
Yes. Lobbing. A terrible habit
My second cousin on my Mother’s side made me lob once. Once.
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Back in the 70s, it was great fun filling out an All-Star ballot at a ballgame. We’d always do a legit one, but then we’d do a couple of “joke” ones, trying to identify the worst player at each position and punching his name. Or, being NL fans, if we were really in a sinister mood, we’d do a legit one for the NL and a joke one for the AL. Not that our help was needed, the NL owned the AL back then.
I’m sorry but it’s kinda cute you used the word “sinister”
Ooooooooh
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