Channeling Your Inner Hate
This was not a good weekend for Bay Area sports. The Cardinal got completely jobbed by the review booth to give one of my most despised teams a gratis win. The Raiders lost on a last second field goal. The Niners….ugh, I can’t even type another word about whatever THAT was at Candlestick yesterday. San Jose State lost. Cal won. And The Giants lost Game 1 to the Fucking St Louis Cardinals. It was all bad and it had me doing a slow burn as I went to bed last night…….
Something has awakened within me and it’s none of that fuzzy-wuzzy *supernova* shit from 2010. It’s my genuine hate for the St Louis Cardinals. I especially don’t like their fans. For starters, they think they’re *better* fans than everyone else. There’s a myth out there that if you’re from the mid west you’re somehow a better fan than those from bigger city east/west coast teams. Of course, that’s a joke.
The Cardinals are no better or worse than Giants fans. Except this guy. Who doesn’t want to punch him in the face?
And maybe it’s just me still managing my slow burn from last night, but what’s up with the 2 birds perched delicately on each end of the baseball bat? Not exactly an imposing look.
But without question my hatred of the Cardinals goes back to the 1987 NLCS. As Zumie noted so eloquently in his post yesterday, that series is a memory that will always be with me. That ’87 team had all the great Giants names on it. Clark, Leonard, Williams, Thompson, Uribe, Brenly, Maldonado, etc….
St Louis had Jose Oquendo. If you don’t hate Jose Oquendo you’ve either got dementia or you haven’t been a Giants fan long enough…..
Here’s a fantastic tribute to my main man Will Clark. There are some epic scenes from Candlestick in this video, enjoy. At the 4:07 mark you will find the ’88 brawl. Will over-slid that bag by about 14 feet, lol.
That was one of the great fights in sports history, if you ask me. There wasn’t any dancing around or waiting for the guy next to you to hold you back. Will threw down immediately, with great force and furious anger–and his teammates exploded into that 4 on 1 fight like they were shot out of a cannon…….
I want the 2012 Giants to find the same fire that the ’87 guys had the day of that fight. I’m not doubting their effort or their resolve, with Hunter Pence screaming at them I’m assuming they are properly motivated. But if they could somehow channel some of the fight and the fire from the ’88 team it might give the 2012 crew that little something *extra*.
And if a fight breaks out between these two teams I am BEGGING for someone to take out Oquendo. He’s an old man now so maybe punching him is a little too much–Bochy body slamming him the way Pedro did Zimmer would be sufficient. You have no idea how big I’d smile if that happened……
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Zumie had asked about my baseball card box. Here’s a pic of the Oquendo card that I fished out of the recycling and put back together for this photo–and you can also see the 4 unopened packages from 1990 (that he was also wondering about) 🙂 . I also found a Marc Kroon rookie card, which I thought was funny, for some reason. I think that dude is now the all time saves leader in Japan…….
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Flav, the fight was in ’88…on a Sunday I believe in the Summer. I was at the next game at home on a Monday night on Monday Night Baseball, which may have been a first for the Giants then. The Giants were welcomed as heroes as they flew back from St. Louis..
But I really hate the Cardinals…they nit-pick you to death with this current Card team.
My memories aren’t the greatest but I thought the brawl was the next year in 88? One thing I do remember was right behind Candy was our First Base coach, Dusty Baker. I think I have the whole fight on video somewhere but as I recall in the middle of the scrum you could see Dusty rise up as he was punching someone. I remember thinking, if nothing else our coaches can kick someones ass. Didn’t Krukow mess up his hand punching someone by the backstop?
Whatever, I didn’t like the Cards from Cowtown then and I still don’t.
Yep. You guys are correct. It’s funny how the years can alter your memories. It still feels like ’87 to me
That freaking brawl got my heart pounding. Clark had 4 guys on him and I couldn’t get the name of the Giant who first came flying in and jumped to the rescue…
The Giants took the fight back to the Birds last night and that was a good sign.
After yesterday watching on TV the absolute poor performance of Yankee fans (no cheering and 3k empty seats as ushers were moving fans down to field level to give a different appearance) it was so refreshing to see and hear the Giant fans screaming throughout the game…. they were clearly the 10th player on the field.
Dennis, it was Candy Maldonado, the guy who hit the grounder that resulted in the slide by Clark, came flying in, Superman style, to knock into Ozzie. I’ve been looking on the internets for years for that.
thanks.. that was an ass kicking jump in.
Yeah, Maldonado was in my dog house from the 87 playoffs. He got out of it with that flying punch to Ozzie. Loved it to see Dusty rolling around in the pile. . .
ugly weekend indeed. Yes Cal won and looked good doing it, but it was against freaking Wazzu, whom you absolutely can’t lose to. Niners better f-ing wake up fast bc they got the seachickens Thursday. M
My co. has a mgmt. meeting next week in Seattle, where we have a few stores within half hour of, run by a couple Hawks fans. Which is better than a redo of last year when we were in Vegas, but had the New York contingent of half dozen mgrs. They won’t be there so I won’t have to listen to Eli nonsense.
Where’s Dirt with some more Vogsness? How about replacing Lasagna with an Oquendo pop up with Clark driving a stake through his heart at 2b?
I never liked tham , even before all the playoff meetings. Their gay-ass stadium play of beating the ball into the ground and get an infield hit to their worm-burner triples to ET McGee and Vince Coleman and Ozzie with his immensely gay back flips. I was so hoping he’d blow out his knee doing that hot-dog shit.
Yeah, epically bad day for SF sports. bad time to throw in a Thrusday night game as well.
Well, that fan certainly can’t spell Chardonnay, let alone sip it. But what’s in his right hand? Can’t be a BlackBerry. Well, maybe 1.0… Great photo,..
The awful call in the Tiger-Yankee game will hopefullly revive calls for expanded replay. To me, it’s a simple argument: if the fans have access to it, so should the people who decide the calls…and no, the call was not OK because it went against NY..
I think last night’s effort showed the guys have plenty of fight- a mediocre Card pen had a great night. MadBum was brutal, though.Someone noted his 91 MPH first pitch- that’s as good as it got. He was 88-90 most of the rest of the way. Looking at his last inning, he threw one off speed pitch on the first pitch of the inninng and then all hard stuff. His 50-22 strike/ball ratio would appear to be at good thing but it’s not when the strikes are down the pipe, which has been a common problem for him when he’s hit hard. With a fastball often 5-6 MPH below what it had been, it spells D.I.S.A.S.T.E.R.
As I said last night, this evening’s game pits two Nasty Boys against each other, two of the great scowls in the game.I’m giving the edge to Ryan with the hotter wife and friends with all their teeth.
I’ll bet the guy is Carpenter’s favorite since he doesn’t have any front teeth.
unca – that was awful! Okay, I’m totally lmao, but still – for shame!!! Hahahahahaha!!!
Bad news is that we lost last night, but the good news is that this is a 7 game playoff series and not a 5 game series. More time for torture baseball and for the team to get off the “schneid” (ask snarkk what this means).
More good news—I’ll be at work soon with zero internet access and no cell phone so I won’t have any contact with game until at least 7:15…which is good since every playoff game I’ve seen so far SF has lost.
Rebound bounce back game tonite and then onto STL where we wrap things up.
You sound so confident willieD, that I’m on board on one condition – you adhere to the no watchy tv until 7:15 pm (since this is the time you’ve indicated that the “curse” expires).
If this doesn’t work, I blame you and MadBum 🙂
Flavor, thanks or posting the Will Clark video. Though I’m probably a lot older than you at age 51, there’s only one Giant player I would say I liked more over the years and than Will Clark and that’s Willie Mays. The Thrill was part of two things that helped turn the franchise around in the ‘80’s. The first was hiring Roger Craig and the second was drafting Will Clark. Craig abolished the negative attitude that had permeated the Giants clubhouse for years, and The Thrill hit the first pitch he saw in the Majors for a home run, off of Nolan Ryan, no less. It doesn’t really get much better than that. His fiery competiveness and never-say-die attitude was infectious and rubbed off on the rest of the Giants. We’ve been more or less competitive ever since.
Back around that time, right after the G’s won the ’89 Pennant, Chevron ran a promotion where they gave a way these really cool pins with X amount of gas purchased. My mom was down in CA at the time, and she bought me two of them. The first one commemorated the ’89 Pennant and the second had a close up image of Will Clark’s face, with his famous scowl, and it said “I have a Giant Attitude.” Still have both of those pins to this day.
Thanks for the memories of a truly great Giant.
Maybe Gin Rummy has become as endangered a card game as Contract Bridge, but “schneid”, or rather, “getting schneidered” is something one would not want n that game. One may avoid that fate by winning a hand…
The problem with Bridge is finding 3 other people less than 90 years old to join you….it’s unsettling when your partner dies before the biddding is completed.
lol!
Never played Bridge, but that is some funny shit.
Lots of energy outside ATT before the game last night, and inside during. The bars were crap loaded with people, no way I could get a beer outside at an establishment in the surrounding area without waiting in lines of easily 50 to over 100 people, and I was there starting at around 3:15. No beer is worth that. Went inside the park and cruised around, saw Cards batting practice. Had a brat and brew out in the center field behind the scoreboard plaza, and sitting down, talked to a few fans beforehand. One thing I remember saying is that I just hope Beltran does NOT HIT A HOME RUN…
My comments on the game:
1. As I said a few days back, Giants can’t go toe to toe hitting with this club. They have to outpitch them. Didn’t do that last night. The Cards starter was good early, throwing strikes, but he was a matchstick ready to go off eventually.
2. Fourth inning rally was electric. You can argue it’s early, but I thought at the time that after Huff walked, they should PR for him, so that on a long double you could tie the game. Sure enough, he gets forced at second on that sliding grab of Pagan’s shot up the middle. If there’s a faster runner there, there’s a good shot that he’s safe, rally continues.
3. I won’t get into the “should Bum have started” argument. That train left the station. He shouldn’t start again, though. He’s done. His stuff was just flat, even in the first which he got through fairly easily. Bochy fans can make excuses that this is only game #1, but Bochy totally botched handling Bum in the 4th. Cards got two doubles after a flyout, then Kozma steals third with Bum totally oblivious; he obviously had his head up his ass. After striking out the pitcher, he gives up the single to Jay for the 4th run. Bum was done, done. EVERYBODY there knew Bum was toast. Done, done and done. He’d had barely anything since the second, hard outs, couldn’t put guys away with 2 strikes, etc. and in the 4th he obviously was lost. Kontos was in the Pen, he was ready, I was watching him, he was READY, standing there. Bochy had the chance to take Bum out right then and there before Beltran. Kontos was ready to go, and to bring him in then the downside was? Versus the risk of a mistake to Beltran? But, nope, Bochy keeps Bum in, Beltran BOOM. NOW Kontos comes in. Thanks for comin’. You can come back 4 down early, but 6 down? Can be done, but that’s a tall order. Bochy blew that, and everybody near me was PISSED.
4. I don’t get the Timmeh treatment. At all. Is he a reliever now? He’s not a short reliever, it appears he’s the stop the bleeding reliever, whatever that means and whenever that occurs. But, does that mean he’s not going to start? Screwing around with his arm like this doesn’t seem like the greatest management. I just don’t get it. He wasn’t super sharp, you could tell in his warmups to Posey, his throws were all over the place. He gutted it for two frames, and a coupla of hard shot outs helped. He DID bring a ton of energy into the game.
5. Giants need to get to the Cards starter early. I think their starters are vulnerable. Their relievers are nails, and throw gas, so if Giants get down early like last night, that is not cool.
6. Vogy needs to get it done tonite. Can’t count on a Reds type comeback again if they go down 0-2. If they get the split, this should go at least 6…
They were down two after 4 , hardly insurmountable. And if starting MadBum is an issue that left the station, so is the second guessing. That he should not have started him was *first guessing”-
Overall, a good summary, though. But I think pre-series decisions were more the issue- going with 5 starting pitchers, Tim as Mota, MadBum starting. By the 4th inning of his NLDS start he had also lost fastball velocity. As to Lincecum, I would be shocked if he didn’t start game 4 or 5, 5 being the preference now. Then they go home well off the schneid..
BTW, that vid with the ’87 Cards/Giants brawl was a good memory. That was a real brawl. The Giants apparently did more tackling and hitting there than the Niners did yesterday…
I don’t _hate_ the cards, I just hate to lose. first game loss is never good, unless you have a team like ours that can battle back.
Pence, the clubhouse leader when they faced elimination against the Reds, must now find a way to contribute on the field. If Pence wakes up and begins to back up his pre-game speeches, he could provide the fire the Giants need to even the series .
And my man Belt, he has the eye, now he needs the hand-eye co-ordination to have a breakout game. Tonight would be good.
We did show some fight back last night and the 7th inning would have been the time to score. All those fly outs from Mott was sad.
I say it is a coin flip tonight so advantage to the home team with their fans.
we score we win
I’ve been a Belt supporter all along, but I didn’t like Belt’s body language at the plate last night. He didn’t look like he was ready to get it done. His RBI single was not hit hard, but was placed well. They need him to get his head out of his ass and start hitting some gappers…
More woulda, coulda, shoulda folder fodder . . .
I agree that like “A Bridge Too Far,” Bochy should have pulled MadBum before Betran came to bat. Similarly, no Beltran HR, coupled with Descalso being positioned a few inches to the left, then his dive he made on Pagan’s grounder up the middle would have been for naught and we would have had the Giants winning 5-4 versus what actually happened.
Body language, schmody language. At least he got the ribbie last night. Pence is the ONLY starter without an RBI.
Yeah, one single and a run. Big deal. Hunter has over 20 at bats without a RBI. If not for the inspirational speeches and occasional defensive gem, he would be near useless.
Thank you for that, Chuck. Besides being the only kid in the game with a “swing hole”, he’s also apparently the only one who looks disappointed after he makes an out. I’ll presume, since it’s what we hear over and over, that this “body language” deal is the slumped shoulders- which one should be able to observe is part of his normal posture. His RBI hit was a clean, legit single-one of hundreds like it that draw no criticism. A few more gappers would be swell- from everybody.
I didn’t say it wasn’t legit. It wasn’t hit hard. He hit one ball hard in the Reds series that I remember, and it was picked by the second baseman in a great play. I want the kid to do well again and like in the second half. I just hope it’s right away, not next season. He takes better ABs that just about anybody else. Goes without saying that Pence needs to step up…
It was acknowledged by every media person I saw or heard that he had the best ABs od any player in the first two games of the Red’s series. That laser, BTW, was snagged by Votto, and would have completely changed the game. I know you’ve been a Belt supporter, whiich demonstrates good judgement, I just think the body language thing is unfair. I’ve seen the cameras follow him all the way to the dugout, and he’s hardly the guy often portayed. He’s no cooler destructer but he can slam a helmet with the best of ’em 😉
Maybe I am being unfair on the body language thing. I just want the kid to break out, he’s got the talent to be a very good player. He’s tall, so maybe that slumping thing he does is the problem that makes him look strange up there a bit. On the other side, Pence has great, aggressive body language, and phhtttt so far in the playoffs. He’s must have great body language when he gives his sermons, too…
It’s weird, it’s like I’ve blacked out portions of ’87. Portions? The singular glaring memory is Candy Maldonado losing a ball in the lights. In my new book, a fan’s life, I mostly avoid it. As a trauma patient, an unhealed one, would. Speaking of fury and fire, doesn’t Bumgarner look DEAD out there? I mean, steve Carltonesque Zen detachment is one thing, but show some life! I’m nervous. Per usual. But it’s doggone weird how last night’s game seemed like a mirror of the Reds game last Sunday and the Red series itself. And we muthafuckin know how sweet that fuckin turned out!
Cards have been studs against LHP starters all year. If Bochy starts Zito at Busch, he’ll definitely have the foam trucks ready alongside the runway…
Bad news the Giants scored 4.Good news they out scored the Niners.
OUCH!
Reverse that.
Not to make excuses for Pence, but he’s had only 4 ABs with RISP in the playoffs. One of those, however, came last night: 1st and 2nd with 1 out in the 5th, so yeah, a hit there instead of a flyout to left would’ve been nice.
Awesome topic. Yes, when it was all shaking out who the Giants would potentially face in the NLCS, I was adamant that I wanted the Cards. And it was specifically for 1987. Yeah, some say we “got them back” in 2002. I say BULLSHIT! I LOVED the 87 team, and Will Clark is still HANDS-DOWN my all-time favorite player. I want FUCKING RETRIBUTION for 1987, and that video just lit a fire under my ass (well, the fire was there…it was a gallon of fucking gas thrown onto the fire)!
Those who have been around a while know my gig…I was a Card fan growing-up. Loved listening to games on the radio…Harry Caray, blah fucking blah! That was then, THIS IS NOW. I am now as hard-core of a Giant fan that exists…and I
HATE
THE FUCKING
CARDINALS!!!
Okay…deep breath…let the blood pressure subside.
I feel much better now.
And will feel even better after we BEAT THE FUCKING CARDINALS.
Someone posted this the other day. I think it needs to be up again. Samuel L. from Pulp Fiction:
“And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers.”
GO GIANTS!!!
I went to one game in St. Louis in the summertime, and I’m told by deceased friends that Hell is more comfortable…
Thanks for postng that clip. While, as a woman, I am officially against fighting, I make an exception in this instance. You’ve got to admire Will’s concentration, three guys come to the defense of their teammate, but he doesn’t allow himself to be distracted, just keeps pounding his first opponent. That, my friends, is focus!
Pence’s poor postseason thus far can’t be denied. A cool thing about the playoffs though, is that unlike the regular season, just a couple games can change it all, And even a horrific series like Burrell’s in the 2010 WS can be overcome by others…
Speaking of failure, Alex Smith still clings to his second place standing in my Google drop down menu, although I’d think that first place googlee Alex Morgan had a better week.
I type ‘Alex’ in yahoo and I get:
Alex Trebek suspect
Alex Rodriguez
Alexa Vega
Alex Cross
Alex Smith
Not sure what this means . . .
Google:
Alex Morgan
Alex Smith
Alex Clare
Alex jones
That is exactly what I get.
I don’t know the significance, either, Chuck. I do know that Alexander Gore the 1st, who clamed to invent a rustic verson of the internet in the 1400’s, had said that Vlad the Impaler had a solid lead in searches then. That Vlad still maintanis Top 5 status centuries later speaks to the eduring populatity of a stern taskmaster
Dusty Baker’s contract was extended 2 more years . . .
Apparently Votto was very supportive.
If the player you’re paying $200M wants his manager to stay, I guess you want to keep the player happy.
Good for Dusty. At the end of his extension, he’ll be 65, and probably done, so getting a ring obviously now has the limited time frame set…
There is a great clip of the brawl on the splash.
http://blog.sfgate.com/thebigevent/2012/10/13/remembering-the-1987-giantscardinals-basebrawl/http://blog.sfgate.com/thebigevent/2012/10/13/remembering-the-1987-giantscardinals-basebrawl/
Will started his slide about a foot before the bag, ha ha. Ozzie Smith with the chickenS rabbit punch from behind. Then Candy Maldonado flew into that pileup like Navarro Bowman. Awesome. Gotta luv Roger Craig’s take on Candy — that’s the fastest I’ve ever seen him go first to second…
Sorry, didn’t catch the brawl on the video that Flav posted.
I’ve been reading nearly every day, I haven’t had much to add to the discussion, but when I have I’ve been trying to use my wordpress login which I forgot and then my post goes away. Anyhow, to all the contributing authors, you guys have been doing a tremendous job! The posts over the last week have been especially remarkable.
Great, now the pressure is ON for tomorrow’s topic.
Sarge, that’s pretty cool. I never saw the little kick Okendo gave to Clark while he was down on the ground.
Oquendo has always been a puss.He’s just a little twerp,like a Davy Lopes.Thrill should have made “road kill” out of him,and used his dead carcas to attrack deer in his off-season hunting trips!
Not sure if Bum has a tired arm or what. I never pitched, but my daughter’s boy friend coaches for Sac State, and he was a pitcher (minors). He pointed out Mad’s mechanics (his arm angle during wind-up/relase) and had me compare that to the likes of Roger Clements, etc., (and this was like 3 months ago when there was still a big chunk of baseball season left) and said basically that with the arm coming through the delivery that way, there is much more wear-and-tear on the pitchers arm/shoulder. I have no idea if what he was showing me is true, but I wonder if it is related to him having a tired arm, etc. Anyway, I was surprised that Madison got the nod for game 1, and fully expected Tim to get a start in this series. Perhaps Tim does get a start, but with him being pulled in to relieve again, it makes ya wonder.
I would not say that tonight is a “Must Win,” but it sure as hell would be nice to go to St. Louis 1-1 opposed to the alternative.
We need Vogel-TRON to come strong, and the Giants to score early.
One Day, One Game at a Time. GO GIANTS!
In public, I remain deferential to Cardinals fans since they were cooperative in sharing stories for my book. Plus, my brother is a Cards fan, saw him yesterday, and we are on good terms. But, do I sorely want us to destroy them?? Yup! One of my fave baseball quotes is from the ’87 playoffs after Ozzie Smith made a rare (oh, so rare, poor thing) error. The Giants and their followers were not buying all his advance HOF media hype and all that acrobatic, flamboyant crap. (Yeah, SF doesn’t go for flamboyant, which is one reason why SF fans always liked McCovey more than Mays.) Someone, almost certainly sounds like Mike Krukow, was quoted as saying this about Smith’s error: “Yeah, but he looked good.”
Just be happy we’re not the Yankees or their fans hahahahaha, glowering gloomily under a morose cloud of subverted entitlement, a patch of desert island despondency any other fan has already endured and accepted as part of real life boohoo boohoo boohoo.
Just watched the fight. That was fun. It looks as if Oquendo was stooopid enough to say something to Clark. And did you see that girly “haymaker” Ozzie threw? I think Brandon Belt in particular needs to watch this before his next at-bats. No one post-Ted Williams except maybe Daryl Strawberry had a sweeter left-handed swing. (Abysmal confession: I don’t my new book even had the words WILL CLARK. I guess because I tie that era to some gloomy events in my life; but that needs to be amended.)
Hey Snarkk check this link out if you want to see yourself at the ballgame. I was able to see my buddy in section 212 so you should be able to see yourself if you weren’t getting a beer at the time.
http://atmlb.com/V1w2vW
Joe Buck looks like he’s going to puke and I don’t remember seeing that many people in Sabes booth before, he usually sat alone with the lights out.
What is this Bozo, looks like a satellite spy camera shot! Yes, I can see myself.
You can see into suite’s with very good clarity…. this could be a divorce lawyer’s best friend…
I’m not sure, I think they used the Google earth Street view technology or something. It’s cool and fucked up at the same time.
The guy that bought my seats has his mom and a couple of pals with him. I can tell who one guy is the other is a little iffy because he’s picking his nose or something.
Yes, Cards fans (like Cubs fans) suffer from the same unwarranted sense that they “better fans” than those of other teams. Which is especially hilarious in my experience, because I know about half a dozen self-described “diehard Cards” fans and only one of them can name more than three players on the roster in a given year. Same thing for the Cubs fans I know – I asked my “longtime Cubs fan” friend Sarah the other day who her favorite active Cubs player was and she said “Kerry Wood”. She seriously had no idea the guy retired in May. But at least Cubs fans are self-deprecating due to of the franchise’s general futility. Cards fans are far more obnoxious because their team’s long history of past (and recent) success gives them that Yankee-esque arrogance to go along with their condescending faux wisdom.
I am friends on FB with an old HS girlfriend. Cards fan. She is obnoxious as hell. Told her if I still lived back there, I would be turning her ass over my knee.
Ah, high school memories…
I will say this about Bush stadium, I had a damn good Bratwurst there and the Bowling hall of fame is across the street. But that’s about it.
You mean Busch, as in beer fame.
The other Bush is famous for wars, Mission Accomplished, financial collapse, clearing brush, and having his name banned from mention at the August GOP convention…
Oops my bad.
no, no. it’s the appropriately named “Bush League Stadium” 🙂
Same LU
Angel Pagan CF, Marco Scutaro 2B, Pablo Sandoval 3B, Buster Posey C, Hunter Pence RF, Brandon Belt 1B, Gregor Blanco LF, Brandon Crawford SS, (Ryan Vogelsong
On MadBum and the tired arrm, remember he had it in 2009 and there was a lot of concern that he wouldn’t regain his velocity. He’s pitched a shit load of innings since then for a young guy. I know that the innings limit isn’t totally recognized but he blew past the recommended overage in 2010 by 70+ innings. Just a thought..
Yeah, I agree Twin. Jake (my daughters BF) says that his arm motion will just add wear more quickly (hence, possibly hitting a wall in fewer innings). I have no idea, but he sure didn’t have it last night.
From even his minor league days, I believe there was concern over MadBum’s arm motion. But, realistically, you could probably say that about ANY pitcher. Incidentally, I was just writing about this today (hoping to do a whole chapter on this blog and my related e-love of the g-Giants): I am pretty sure I came to the Flap bc the Splash referred to this venue on the day MadBum was called up as an emergency starter; 2009. The Flap scooped the world, and that was bc someone here had the scoop. Sound right?
Way I understand it, that is true to some degree with any pitcher. But supposedly, the arm motion can really impact the wear-and-tear on the arm.
I know I get little support, but I’d like to see Arias in there, 3B preferably.
My thoughts and feelings on tonight’s game are summed up by these words (a combination of prayer and poem) from “Gratitude to the Unknown Instructors” by William Butler Yeats, whose grave I have visited in Drumcliffe, Republic of Ireland: “What they undertook to do/ They brought to pass./ All things hang like a drop of dew/ Upon a blade of grass.” Some of my favorite lines, by anyone.
I can understand some folks’ desire to have Arias start. I prefer to see him coming off the bench. With that said, Pablo needs to get his fat ass in gear and start hitting the fucking ball with some authority.
With no LHers slated for the Cards that I know of, Arias is unlikely to get a start. And if how he’s been used is any indication, it would be for Crawford..Sandoval hit .333, 2 doubles anf a HR with a .890 OPS in the NLDS, BTW.
no prob, I’d much rather have Arias come off the bench to bat against Rzepzeynski or whatever his name is……..
I don’t think it’s being contrary to say that singling out Sandoval for his alleged subpar offense is not fair or accurate.
The team as a group didn’t hit with authority in the divison series. I’m not incuding last night since one game is a mite early to see who is and isn’t doing it in the NLCS. Pagan, Scutaro, Pence, Belt, and Crawford all had poor series offensively. Buster of course had the mighty slam and another HR, Blanco had a good series, and Sandoval. Arias off the bench.
Too lazy to look up the Giants post-season stats again. But Pablo wasn’t the problem.
Game on! Got to take this one . . . then 2 of 3 in Arch-de-Failure-town, and clinch game 6 here.
A funny thing happened on the way to Monday night. I don’t give a rat’s ass about MNF tonight.
GO GIANTS!!!!!
There’s something about watching playoffs baseball at 7am while downing coffee and cereal that I just .. can’t… quite… get used to… Keys to the game: Vogie matching or bettering Carpenter, and the top of the order (Pagan, here’s looking at you) setting the table for some runs. What was that again? We score, we win? Sounds good…..
fuck those scumbags. holiday needs to get hit next at bat and maybe every one after that. where’s the god damned officials? that’s a freaking vicious hit to the knees and rolls up the ankle.
Looks like he Cards were taking notes from the Will Clark slide . . .
Shades of ’88 there. Not sure why that slide didn’t warrant an auto out at first base
Pa…..gone!
it’s been said before but: PA GONE
OFS! That had to be super-intentional, MF tried to _hurt_ our man Scutaro, not just an interference.
Magnus was clairvoyant with his post today.
Or, not just setting the table, but also clearing it, that’ll do, dude….
Pa-GONE!
Now that was hit with some authority 😉
loved the way john jay just watched it, he barely moved
priceless
my feed is _WAY_ bhind yours. scutaro hasn’t had a pitch yet
Thata Boy Angel!!!
Scoots.a knock too,That Holliday slide woke em up!!
I do have the telly muted and the radio on KNBR
Well, we got a lot of pitches out of Crapenter.
Belt got jobbed in that at bat, neither one of those strikes were strikes
Exactly, Flav. he didn’t start his slide til after the bag. Shoulda been a DP.
Vogie needs a shutdown inning here.
Our first lead in 4 games at home.
I hope voggie gets that strike zone
that was an umpire out
If he’s going to give Carpenter the low *and* high “strikes”, let’s see it for Vogie.
I pity the fool that throws belt a ‘mistake’ in the zone
That was a good start…let’s see more of that kind of stuff…
Carpenter’s throwing lollipops up there.Giants should have a field day knocking him around.His velocity is less then what MadBum had going last night.
I’m really surprised at how many pitches the Cards take. It’s quite effective.
damn, that 5th pitch was a full on strike
I am SO fucking tired of these mental deficient break downs by our pitchers when the face opposing pitchers
Fuck? What is it with.are staff giving up key hits to Pitchers ferchrissakes.Unexcusable BS!!7
I am so pissed right now. Fucking inexcusable is exactly right. Bear down Voggie. A fucking pitcher?!?!?!?!
got to finish these batters with 2 strikes
Loving the super so-mo
I am over excit_edd
my heart is beating my mind super awake
and I am not even at the yard, much less on the field.
go Giants!
Generous scorekeeper…Should have been a single and an error on Pagan allowing punk ass Beltran to reach Second.
Terrific Catch by Belt!!! Big time play!!
There should be *some* way to give defenders more credit for good plays. I’ll give ’em 1/2 ribbies. The Brandons have a boatload…
Great post Flav…I have been looking for a video of that brawl for years! I remember watching that live with my Dad and as someone mentioned, I do believe it was a Sunday. I think it took me years to get over my hatred for Oquendo…Check that, I still haven’t gotten over it.
scroll up and check out the link Sarge posted. It’s the entire thing, the hit that started it, everything. Epic
Fox spends 10 minutes jacking themselves off to their new slo-mo camera and then the show exactly one replay, full speed, of that ball Panda hit. Fucking pathetic how bad Fox coverage is