Prediction Time!

Posted in Uncategorized by twinfan1 on March 31, 2013

The starting 9 position players ( Blanco and Torres are considered starters ) and 6 pitchers are required. The required stats are xFIP, XERA, BABIP, and UZR/150…just kidding.
Required for position players are BA, HR, RBI. For the 5 starting pitchers it’s W-L, ERA. For Romo it’s W-L, saves and save opportunites. Very basic stuff. I’ve added OPS for the position players and WHIP for the pitchers. You may add any stats you like. There’s no prize (unless Craig decides to award one later), there is just the pride in knowing that you sucked less than everybody else.
And additional required prediction is the order of finish in the NL West and the Giants W-L record. Since there is no prize, feel free to use other Flapper’s numbers as a guide, no need to hide your picks to prevent someone from stealing them.
And remember- unless you make the required predictions you may not laugh at, trash, or snicker derisively about other predictions.
So have at it!
( you’ll have until noon tomorow to make changes – if you make any, repost your entire prediction slate, not just the change)
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twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:17 pm

These are mine. I’m feeing it, hence Belt at 22-85.

Division Races:
NL West: Giants, Dodgers, DBacks, Pads, Rockies
NL Central:Reds, Cards, Brewers,Bucs, Cubs
NL East: Braves, Nats, Phils, Mets, Marlins
WCs-Nats, Dodgers
AL West: Angels, Rangers, A’s, Mariners, Astros
AL Central: Tigers, Royals, Indians,White Sox,Twins
AL East: Jays, Rays, Yanks, Red Sox, Orioles
WCs- Rangers, Rays

Cain 16-8 2.95 1.15
MadBum 16-11 3.20 1.05
Timmy 13-10 3.60 1.30
Vogelsong 12-11 3.45 1.25
Zito 11-10 4.20 1.35
Romo 3-3 24-30 Saves 1.10

Posey .310 23-95 .900
Belt .270 22-85 .820
Scutaro .265 7-50 .720
Crawford .255 8-55 .710
Sandoval .305 30- 100 .890
Blanco .250 4-35 .675
Torres .265 8-40 .770
Pagan .280 10-60 .780
Pence .275 23-80 .800

Team W-L 92-70
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Pagan- .280, 8, 72
Scutaro- .270, 5, 65
Sandoval- .305, 15, 75 (because of playing in less than 140 games)
Posey- .315, 24, 105
Pence- .276, 21, 98
Belt- .284, 16, 82
Crawford- .255, 8, 66
Blanco- .250, 3, 32
Torres- .220, 3, 30
Cain: 18-6, 3.12
Bumgarner: 17-9, 3.35
Lincecum: 14-11, 4.21
Zito: 14-8, 3.75
Vogelsong: 16-8, 3.42
Romo: 30 saves in 34 attempts. Y’all have influenced me to lower my number of saves from 36.
twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:32 pm

Z, you need your guess on team W/L record and NL WEST order of finish.
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:33 pm

Giants
Dodgers
D-Backs
Rockies
Padres

Giants 94-68
Yogi Barrister said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:44 pm

Posey: 290-90-22, Belt: 320-93-28, Scuturo: 267-47-5, Crawford: 275-60-11 (35 2B), Sandoval: 255-36-7 (71 GP), Blanco: 262-44-4 (83 R), Pagan: 270-56-9, Pence: 283-88-17
Cain: (15-8) 3.30, Bumgarner: (18-8) 2.99, Vogelsong: (17-8) 3.27, Zito: (14-11) 3.99, Lincecum: (7-9) 4.23(traded to Yankees)
88-74

NL West: Dodgers, Giants, D-Backs, Padres, Rockies
NL Central: Reds, Cardinals, Brewers, Cubs, Pirates
NL East: Nationals Braves, Phillies, Mets, Marlins
AL West: Angels, A’s, Rangers, Mariners, Astros
AL Central: Tigers(most likely to win their division, therefore favorite to win WS), White Sox, Royals, Indians, Twins
AL East: Blue Jays, Rays, Yankees, Orioles, Red Sox
Wild Card: Giants, Braves, A’s, Rays
NLDS: Nationals (Reds), Braves (Dodgers)
ALDS: Tigers (A’s), Angels (Blue Jays)
NLCS: Nationals
ALCS: Tigers
WS: Tigers

CY YOUNG: Strasburg, Price
MVP: Votto, Cespedes
ROY: Teheran, Bundy
PawlieKokonuts said, on March 31, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Hey, that caption with that photo is some very funny Ortrod humor.

I worked off of what Twin posted yesterday, so I may have COPIED something inadvertently. And I would not be surprised if some of my numbers or other predictions are not even logically possible. Too bad.

Races:
NL West: Giants, DBacks, Dodgers, Pads, Rockies
NL Central: Cards, Reds, Bucs, Brewers, Cubs
NL East: Braves, Phils, Nats, Marlins, Mets
WCs-Reds, Dbacks
AL West: Angels, A’s, Mariners, Rangers, Astros
AL Central: Tigers, Indians, Royals, White Sox,Twins
AL East: Rays, Jays, Rays, Orioles, Red Sox, Yanks
WCs- Indians, Rays

Cain 18-7 3.29 1.10
MadBum 15-12 3.79 1.27
Timmy 13-13 4.02 1.29
Vogelsong 14-11 3.33 1.11
Zito 13-10 3.99 1.28
Romo 4-5 26-32 Saves 1.16

Posey .307 26-90 .888
Belt .297 29-91 .891
Scutaro .268 5-53 .789
Crawford .278 12-70 .797
Sandoval .299 24-87 .802
Blanco .249 5-42 .702
Torres .257 11-56 .786
Pagan .282 13-68 .784
Pence .260 22-82 .777

W-L 94-68
Salty said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:01 pm

WTH…Elbow chips be damned. Snot rockets white glare.

Posey .330/26/100
Belt .295/22/82
Scoots .264/5/50
Crawford .250/6/56
Sandoval .320/30/96
LF .251/8/70
Pagan .270/10/60
Pence .265/21/85

Bum 18-8, 2.80 Cy!
Cain 16-10 3.28
Tim 14-10 3.30
Zito 13-11 3.90
Voge 14-8 3.48

Romo 30 saves

Giants 97 wins. NL West Champs. Fuck the dodgers.
Bozo said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:37 pm

Since I blew it by posting mine last week, I’ll stick with it and not make any changes.

Posey – .312 BA, 23 HR, 109 RBIs, 2 SB
Sandoval – .295 BA, 33 HR, 114 RBIs, 1 SB – NL MVP
Crawford – .264 BA, 9 HR, 57 RBI, 10 SB – GG
Scutaro – .281 BA, 7 HR, 72 RBI, 7 SB
Belt – .298 BA, 19 HR, 93 RBI, 15 SB – GG and buys a new cow
Blanco – .310 BA, 7 HR, 42 RBI, 33 SB – GG
Torres – .217 BA, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 5 SB – Hampered by Leg injuries.
Pagan – .273 BA, 8 HR, 60 RBI, 35 SB – 17 Triples
Pence – .301 BA, 25 HR, 97 RBI, 8 SB – wins MLBs new Fucking Goofy award
Lincecum – 15 W, 3.42 ERA, 197 K,
Matt Cain 18 W, 2.98 ERA, 189 K – Cy
MadBum 16 W, 3.27 ERA, 192 K – leads the league in snot rockets for the fourth straight year
Vogs – 14 W, 3.52 ERA, 143 K
Zito – 10 W, 4.40 ERA, 120 K – Retires at end of the year to start a restaurant in Riverside CA
Sergio Romo 12 S, 2.15 ERA, .899 WHIP – Returns to set-up guy role at the break.
Yasiel Puig – suspended for 50 games
- twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:39 pm
  
  You can change until Noon pacific tomorrow if you like.
DJLoo said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:42 pm

How many titles in what period of time does a team have to win to be labeled a dynasty?
Does it vary by sport? Is there an answer?
- xoot said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:59 pm
  
  3 in a row, D. 3 in 5 yrs, probably. 5 in 10, may depend on the down years. But I only pay attention to a few sports.
paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:46 pm

Races:
NL West: LA, Giants, DBacks, Rockies, Padres
NL Central: Reds, Cards, Bucs, Brewers, Cubs
NL East: Washington, Atlanta, Phils, Mets, Marlins
Wildcards-Giants, Atlanta
(Giants win World Series)

AL West: Angels, A’s, Mariners, Rangers, Astros
AL Central: Tigers, KC, Indians, White Sox, Twins
AL East: Tampa Bay, Blue Jays, Orioles, NY, Red Sox
Wildcards- Toronto, KC
(Angels win AL, lose to Giants in World Series)

Cain 15-8 3.50 1.10
MadBum 21-5 2.29 1.00
Timmy 6-9 4.60 1.29
Vogelsong 16-10 3.33 1.11
Zito 16-10 3.99 1.28
Closer? We don’t need no f-ing closer..
(Bumgarner wins Cy Young)

Posey .315 21-90 .850
Belt .305 25-101 .900
Scutaro .270 2-53 .700
Crawford .265 10-70 .725
Sandoval .290 27-93 .880
Blanco .270 10-62 .790
Torres .250 5-46 .690
Pagan .285 10-68 .780
Pence .290 24-82 .870

W-L 96-66 (1st wildcard: NLDS beat ATL; NLCS beat Nats; World Series, beat Angels)
DJLoo said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:50 pm

Do they Angels still trot out that friggin’ monkey?
- twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 8:05 pm
  
  That’s pretty rude. Kendrick may not be an All-Star but he’s a pretty good player 😉
paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 7:51 pm

Sorry, that last line in mine should read:
W-L 96-66 (1st wildcard; WC game, beat ATL; NLDS, beat LA; NLCS, beat Nats; Series, beat Angels)
Macdog said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:16 pm

Pagan .280 8-64 32SB
Scutaro .319 10-76
Sandoval .296 24-96
Posey .328 25-98
Pence .271 20-88
Belt .272 18-72
Blanco .261 7-52
Torres .256 7-49
Crawford .241 5-53

Cain 18-10 3.18
MadBum 17-7 2.40
Lincecum 13-11 3.55
Zito 14-8 3.75
Vogey 14-8 3.32
Romo 5-4, 27-31, 1.54
- Macdog said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:31 am
  
  NL West: Giants, Dodgers, Padres, DBacks, Rox
  NL East: Nats, Braves, Phils, Mets, Marlins
  NL Central: Reds, Cards, Pirates, Brewers, Cubs
  AL East: Rays, Yanks, Orioles, Jays, Red Sox
  AL Central: Tigers, Indians, White Sox, Royals, Twins
  AL West: Angels, A’s, Rangers, Mariners, Astros
  
  WCs: Braves, Dodgers, A’s, Yanks
snarkk said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:38 pm

Giants 92-70
Padres
Doghairs
Dbacks
Rocks

I’ve got the player predictions in an Excel file on my home PC. The file is date stamped, so if that’s OK, I’ll send it to BF as my entry when I get back. If it”s not OK, I’m in fuckin’ Santa Fe and this morning I got an Easter Blessing from the Archbishop at the Cathedral, then late this afternoon at a mountain spa got an hour in a private hot tub with Mrs. Snarkk, then a sauna, then a 20 minute feet dangle in a “foot spa” hot pool, finished with an hour’s deep tissue massage from a chick named Gaia, finished off by an awesome dinner in town — so whatever…

Vamos Gigantes!
- twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:41 pm
  
  it’s fine to send it to Craig.
  - twinfan1 said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:49 pm
    
    I mean I assume it’s fine.
- paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:00 pm
  
  I know that mountain spa place, in the hills about Santa Fe. Can’t remember the name.. but so nice and peaceful, if I remember correctly (was last there in 1999)……
TedSpe said, on March 31, 2013 at 9:51 pm

test
- paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:00 pm
  
  pass 🙂
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:04 pm

I think there’s a strong chance somebody else will be playing leftfield for the Giants by the time August gets here, and Blanco and Torres will be the #4 and #5 outfielders.
I think at least 1 of these 3 teams’, and possibly 2 of these 3 teams’ managers will be fired this season:
Mets, Rangers, or Dodgers.
The Mets manager is a red-a##, and his act will wear thin as the team has another abysmal season; the Rangers will not be very good this season; and if the Dodgers are struggling at .500 by the middle of the season, the new owners will want to shake things up. And they didn’t hire 2-Trips.
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:27 pm

Good article today in the NY Times (and reprinted in the SF Chronicle) about strikeouts. The A’s hitters set an AL record last year for striking out. SABR/Moneyball is HRs, walks, and strikeouts. Not so much steals and sac bunts.
Striking out has lost a lot of the stigma it used to have. And because of PED testing, the pitchers aren’t as afraid to throw strikes to the hitters. Also, in general, relief pitching is better than it used to be. Guys are specializing in relief pitching at the lower levels in more roles than they used to, i.e. talented pitchers are not just always wanting to be starters and closers now. At the lower levels there is more respect for other relief roles.
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:36 pm

Kind of a funny interview with Cespedes the other day in the Chronicle. Basically in the interview he said he just wants to play well, become a free agent, and make a lot of money. Those are practically the exact quotes. Nothing about what he hopes the team will achieve in those years. But it doesn’t matter anyway; he’ll be traded for prospects at some point.
James said, on March 31, 2013 at 10:45 pm

The Giants will again be near the top of the league in OPS plus, with improved numbers from RF, 1B, and SS compensating in part for no Melky and a drop off from Buster. The third base triumvirate delivers a credible 750 OPS. We finish 7th in runs scored.

The bullpen falls off, and Timmy does not return to form, although he has a little better luck. MadBum picks it up, and the staff collectively gives a similar performance to last year, finishing 7th in ERA and WHIP.

In combination with an inexplicable week-long lack of interesting live music and some poorly chosen restaurants on my part, the Giants ruin our trip to NYC by being 7 games behind the division leaders and other WC contenders on September 17th. The Giants very good fortune in winning 94 games last year is reversed, and they finish with a record that’s closer to what the season’s run differential projects.
- paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 11:19 pm
  
  So, if you choose better restaurants and clubs with live music, will the Giants be closer than 7 games? 🙂
- paulinasia said, on March 31, 2013 at 11:20 pm
  
  Also meant to say, I pretty much agree with your first two paragraphs. Also think Mad Bum has a monster “coming out” year. They’ll need it if/when Timmy continues his slide.
- willedav said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:01 am
  
  I saw an ad in local south bay entertainment rag Metro for a “Café Strich” in downtown san jose…complete with a drawing of one and Rahsaan in the background in top hat and requisite dark glasses. I predict I check this out.
  - Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:12 am
    
    willie – IMO, Roland Kirk is a God! And naming the place Stritch is fucking brilliant.
zumiee said, on March 31, 2013 at 11:10 pm

Olbermann wasn’t keen on the Upton brothers, but I think the Upton brothers playing together is pretty cool. I’m looking forward to that Atlanta/Philly game after the Giants game tomorrow. I’d like to see Atlanta finish ahead of the Nats.
chipower9 said, on March 31, 2013 at 11:35 pm

Pagan: 281, 9, 64
Scutaro: .276, 8, 62
Sandoval: .310, 20, 86
Posey: .317, 26, 102
Pence: .274, 22, 95
Belt: .270, 15, 72
Crawford: .268, 9, 61
Torres: .240, 7, 40
Blanco: .254, 2, 28
Cain: 16-8, 2.84
Bumgarner: 14-9, 3.66
Lincecum: 14-10, 3.78
Zito: 15-9, 4.03
Vogelsong: 15-8, 3.04
Romo: 4-2, 32 saves/36 attempts.

NL West:
Giants
Bums
Snakes
Rox
Dago

Giant’s record: 92-70

Other divisions:
NL Central: Reds, Brew Crew, Cards, Bucs, Cubbies
NL East: Nats, Braves, Phils, Marlins, Mutts
NL WC: Dodgers, Braves

AL West: Angels, Rangers, A’s Mariners, Afros
AL Cental: Tiggers, Royals, White Sox, Twinkies, Tribe
AL East: Jays, Rays, O’s Yank-MEs, Red Sux
AL WC: Rays, Rangers

Giants win it all! Three in Four Years, Bitches!
blade said, on March 31, 2013 at 11:36 pm

Giants win the Division with 92 wins. San Diego, Diamondbacks, Los Angeles, and Rockies follow. San Diego and Atlanta take WC spots. Cincinatti wins the Central Division. Washington wins East.

In the AL West, Mariners shock (of course they were helped by moving in the fences) and barely take the WC from the A’s. Angels win the division. The two Texas teams win sucktitude and are confined to a room full of horse shit, wondering where their pony is. 🙂

In the Central, Tigers again win the Division; with KC taking one of the WCs. In the East, Blue Jays win the division and Tampa Bay gets the WC. Yankmees point fingers, mostly at ARod, as they tank to last place. Red Sox Nation is morose as well, as they barely finish ahead of the Yanks.

Pagan .303 BA, 8 HR, 62 RBI (110 Runs, 40 SB, 11 Triples)
Scutaro .269 BA 7 HR, 69 RBI (100 Runs)
Sandoval .349 BA, 28 HR, 119 RBI
Posey .339 BA, 27 HR, 125 RBI
Pence. 255 BA, 25 HR, 89 RBI
Belt .307 BA, 14 HR, 75 RBI (he is moved up in the order just before the All Star break)
Blanco/Torres combined. 260 BA, 7 HR, 50 RBI
Crawford is another surprise as he bats. 277BA, with 60 RBI and 74 Runs.

Cain 19-5, 3.19 ERA
Bumgarner 15-10 3.80 ERA
Lincecum 14-9 3.29 ERA
Vogelsong 9-15 4.04 ERA
Zito 13-8 3.79 ERA
Romo 29 Saves out of 37 chances; 2.01 ERA
- blade3colorado said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:24 am
  
  Addendum – Almost forgot to mention . . . GMen win it all and are declared the team of the Century. World ends in 2015, so this is quite plausible. 🙂
blade3colorado said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:14 am

Salty, when you get a chance, check out my blog – I responded to your comment, but had a question for you. Thanks.
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:54 am

Another day without BB
even Easter cannot make it right
Opening day approaches
watching games through the night
Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 6:50 am

Ah, Opening Day. One of my 4 or 5 favorite days of the year……
And thank you Michael, for rolling out this thread.
Predictions:
I’m just gonna roll out who I think wins the divisions….
NL West: SF Giants (92 wins)
NL Central: Reds
NL: East: Nats
WC: Braves and Dodgers

AL West: For this one, I’ll do the entire division. Angels, Mariners, A’s, Texas and Houston. I think Seattle is a dark horse this year and I see Texas as falling at least a step or two backward off last season. And despite the results of last night, each of these four teams get to play the Astros 18 times this year. That’s gotta help their record hugely….
AL Central: Tigers (closely followed by Royals)
AL East: Jays, Rays, Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees! –it would be a fun year to work as the headline writer at The Post this year.
AL WC: Royals and Mariners

NL Winner– Giants beat the Nats (though I recognize the astronomical odds we face to win our third WS in four years. I wonder how many times that’s been done in the NL? Ever? I’ll look it up later.
AL Winner: Jays beat the Mariners
We beat Jays.

Individual season statistics:
The Arms
The Horse– 17-7 3.04 1.09
Timmy the Kid: 13-12 3.93 1.35
MadBum: 15-9 3.77 1.17
Voggy: 12-10 3.88 1.27
ZenMaster: 12-10 4.00 1.35
Romo: 22 saves

The Bats:
Posey: .296 22 bombs, 97RBI’s
Panda: .291, 20 bombs, 75RBI’s
Crawford: .250 8 bombs 50RBI’s
Scoots: .281 8 bombs, 60RBI’s
Belt: .296 13 bombs, 81RBi’s, 11 stolen bags
Lf field platoon of Torres and Blanco. As I’ve said, a platoon will be critical to both their heath and their production. Blanco was equally under-inspiring against both L/R pitchers last year, hitting in the .240’s against both. But he’s a career .262 hitter against righties.
Torres is a weirdo from year to year vs lefties. Last year he hit .286 against them. In 2011 he hit .170. In 2010 he hit .226. In 2009 he hit .338.
So for this platoon to work, he needs to have an *on* year against them. If he doesn’t, or if he gets hurt, I don’t feel like The White Shark can handle the load by himself in which case Sabes will probably go out and get a LF at the break. But let’s assume the platoon works, I’ll say Torres .285 (hitting mostly against lefties) with 12 stolen bags and Blanco hits .260 with 25 stolen bags. Congrats to Torres for getting the Opening Day start, by the way. Kershaw’s a lefty so it makes sense but it’s a great way to acknowledge him as a true great Giant from 2010.
Angel Pagan: I still hear almost nothing about Pagan stepping up and filling in for Melky after he vanished. He went something like 16 for 32 after Melky disappeared. It might have been a little better than that, I can’t recall. In many ways he saved the season by keeping the ship afloat and filling a big part of the void that was created when Melky decided to go start fake websites for a living.
But I also was concerned with how motivated he would be after he got his contract. He was fantastic in the WBC so maybe I was wrong about that. I’ll say .281 12 bombs and 31 stolen bags
Pence: Love this guy, but I just don’t think this park is for him. He hit SO MANY fly balls to the wall at ATT. Remember, he hit at 2 of the most hitter friendly parks in the league for his entire career. He needs to hit more line drives and his career average around 15% ain’t gonna get it done. I’ll say he goes .265 18 bombs 98RBI’s (just cause of where he’ll hit in the order)

I’m going to try something that never works today. I’m turning off my ph and not looking at the internet at 1pm and will try to get home by 3:15 or so. Hopefully, I can watch the game taped and catch up to live near the end of the game. So if you don’t hear from me, that’s why.
This is a year like no other than I can remember. The Dodgers and Giants are both loaded and expected to compete all season. The Angels have paid their way to the top. And the Royals, A’s and O’s are all expected to be good this year. Same with Seattle, if you listen to me. the West Coast is poised to take over ESPN’s lead stories this year. Will it happen? Will their be able to take the cameras off the Yanks and Red Sox? I think they’ll be forced to with Boston and NY toiling at the bottom of their division. And when was the last time THAT happened?
Anyway, can’t wait for the year to start. Can’t wait to turn my phone off at 1pm today. Individually, we are who we are. Together, we are world champions!
- blade3colorado said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:05 am
  
  Flav, I am at an internet cafe and set my lineup for a few days. See what happens. Also, I shook up my team a bit and dropped a couple and added a couple of people – no guarantee of course, that I get what I want on the waiver wire. Anywho, I may call on you occasionally to do something to my lineup. Additionally, it would be nice to check it out on occasion to see if I have left a pitcher off my roster that is pitching that day. Thanks in advance.
  - Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:23 am
    
    While you’re in there Flav, go ahead and trade Freddie Freeman to me for Lance Berkman. Blade won’t know for at least a week.
    Hey Blade, One time I was without computer access while traveling and my team did better. What a Manager.
snarkk said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:12 am

For Paul:
Ten Thousand Waves…
And that was about the number on my bill when we were done… 😉
Alleykat said, on April 1, 2013 at 7:34 am

Kat’s Stone Cold Locks:
Pagan- .281/12/65
Scoots- ..279/6/52
Mr Tubbs. .310/16/70 (out alot with injuries)
Posey- .325/32/109
Pence-. 273/26/98
Belt-.290/23/87
Blanco-.250/4/34
Torres. 242/7/37
Mudbug -.264/10/57

Cain- 18-9 3.00
Madbum-20-8 2.75 (CY)
Freak- 15-12 3.75
Zito-13-10 4.25
Boggy 11-13 4.50
Romo-6-3 27 saves
NL West
Giants
Snakes
Bums
Rox’s
Maxi Pads
GIANTS RECORD 93-69
- twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:34 am
  
  Are the last four changes or is it multiple choice?
  - Alleykat said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:09 am
    
    No Twin…My phone moved the last 4
    I’ll stick with the order on top.Sorry didn’t know how to move them back.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:31 am

Good “turn out” for Prediction Day, better than I expected. Some notable but not unsurprising hold outs, so far. But Noon Pacific is the deadline… a few notes:
At least a couople of you have Vungo and Blanco combining for about 100 RBI. Excuse my comment if you intended to do that, but I doubt that was your intent. There’s time to change it…
In general, some pretty monster calls..
I agree with Z, and have noted it myself- I wouldn’t be surprised if LF were manned by somebody other than Vungo and Blanco by midseason. My picks for them are soft, perhaps more hopeful than realistic- but what’s opening day about more than hope ? I’ll stand by my calls on them but if Peguero or Brown take over, it wouldn’t shock me..
Another soft call is Timmy. I’ve dismissed ST performance for pitchers in most cases, but gosh, he didn’t do much to rekindle enthusiasm . Someone noted that his fastball velocity dropped dramatically in just a couple innings-not a good sign. But here I’m going with “experts”, most of whom predict a nice bounce back..
Romo: Sorry, just don’t see him holding down the closer job. I’m still seeing Rolen hit that hangin-est slider in the history of hangin’ slidersabout 450 feet and sending all of us into a grumpy sleep for the winter. Casilla or Hembree finish the year closing- or- you know who. He’s not out of the picture, IMO..
Don’t see Gaudin being here long- he earned the spot but his recent MLB work doesn’t inspire confidence, even just mopping up.Even for that role, the idea is to give the guys a chance to get back in it- not just eat innings. Ramirez has been re-igned and he’s in Fresno, along with Hembree, Rosario, Runzler, and a couple others- they’ll make a move quickly if Gaudin doesn’t pitch well out of the gate…
No one will ever be able say I went 20-80 on another first baseman again- I went 22-85…
I remember lot of props for how Pagan stepped up after Melky went down, I know talked about it. But he was not alone. and even with Scooter’s fantastic and inexpicable performancew down the stretch, I think that how the bottom of the order hit , particularly in September, was as key as anything…
- Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:42 am
  
  I didn’t even guess RBI’s or bombs for Torres and Blanco. I just went BA and SB’s. I don’t think HR’s or RBI’s are going to be too relevant for either of them. Am I kicked out of the contest? 🙂
  And Snarkk, send me yours whenever you get home.
  And there is no prize other than the pride you’ll feel for being such a dominate prognosticator.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:39 am

Where’s Joe? Astros in first place..
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:42 am

Hey, would anybody do me a kindness and make me a co-manager? I do not wish to share, it would all be you for the decisions, but I would like to follow along when I can and not just be first to outsider.
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 8:56 am

Division Races:
NL West: Giants, DBacks, Dodgers, Pads, Rockies
NL Central: Reds, Cards, Brewers, Bucs, Cubs
NL East: Nats, Braves, Phils, Marlins, Mets
WCs-Braves, DBacks
AL West: Angels, Mariners, A’s, Rangers, Astros
AL Central: Tigers, Royals, Indians, White Sox, Twins
AL East: Jays, Rays, Red Sox, Yanks, Orioles
WCs- KC, Rays

Angels beat Detroit ALCS
Giants beat Reds NLCS
SF in 6 at home in the rain.

Cain 17-7 2.91 1.12
MadBum 19-9 3.33 1.05
Timmy 11-10 3.99 1.30
Vogelsong 13-9 3.25 1.20
Zito 15-9 4.04 1.32
Romo 4-2 26of38 w/1BS&9hlds 0.96

Posey .319 23-105 .870
Belt .280 19-79 .810
Scutaro .260 6-60 .720
Crawford .255 6-50 .710
Sandoval .315 30-110 .860
Blanco .250 4-35 .680
Torres .265 7-42 .730
Pagan .289 6-62 .777
Pence .275 22-82 .815

Team W-L 94-68
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:01 am

I, too, see some interesting shake-outs that will make some of these moot.
Will Belt try to muscle up his HRs and end up inflating his SO? Will his runs turn out to be more important than RBI? Will the white bull platoon make it past all-star break? I think Pagan/Scooter will give Panda/Posey lots of opportunities and I like Paul’s “closer? we don’t need a stinkin’ closer” comment, but I went with the rules.
dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:08 am

Pagan .281/10/70
Scutaro .285/6/61
Sandoval .318/17/80
Posey .325/28/109
Pence .273/24/102
Belt .288/25/86
Blanco .250/4/34
Torres displaced by Peguero by June .230/5/37
Peguero .250/4/35
Crawford .260/8/52

Cain 20-7 3.24 (CY)
Bumgarner 15-8 3.50
Lincecum 12-12 3.85
Zito 10-13 4.42
Voggelsong 11-13 4.50
Romo 20 Saves
Casilla 30 Saves

NL West
Giants
Snakes
Bums
Rox’s
Rockies
GIANTS WINS 91

WS Winners Nationals
blade3colorado said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:12 am

One last time – I have tried to send this &$^%(^)@ cocksucking message 5 times. Ed, you can be my wing man, but we are keeping the name Bladerunners.
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:17 am

Hitters:

Blanco .268 5-31 (22-27 steals)
Torres .257 6-26 (15-24 steals)
Scutaro .281 6-55
Sandoval .301 17-82
Posey .307 28-108
Pence .270 20-91
Belt .275 16-78
Pagan .278 10-56
Crawford .278 9-46

Pitchers:

Cain 20-7 2.98
MadBum 15-8 3.14
Timmy 12-14 3.88
Zits 12-11 4.05
Vogie 16-10 3.50
Romo 6-4 22-30 Saves

Races:

NL West: Giants, Dodgers, DBacks, Pads, Rockies
NL Central: Reds, Pitts, Cards, Cubs, Brewers
NL East: Nats, Braves, Mets, Phils, Marlins
Wildcards – Pitts, Braves

AL West: A’s, Angels, Mariners, Astros, Rangers
AL Central: Tigers, White Sox, Indians, Royals, Twins
AL East: Jays, Orioles, Rays, Yanks, Red Sox
Wildcards – White Sox, Orioles

Giants go 93-69 games. Giants beat the BJ’s in the World Series

I seriously don’t think Pittsburgh gets the WC but I’d love to see it. Same with the O’s . . .
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:25 am

Shit, dirt. I swear I didn’r read yours before I did mine, but our pitching #s look very similar.

Of course, 10-130 for Zito? Yer on your own on that one (insert gay-ass smiley face).
tedspe said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:39 am

PLAY BALL my babies!!!
Salty said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:48 am

So, when can we start slamming others predictions? he he…

Just one jumps out and that’s Lincecum being traded to the Yanks. Maybe Yogi was joking. Geez, they couldn’t even afford Nate.
Macdog said, on April 1, 2013 at 9:52 am

It’s Opening Day! Do I wear my 2012 World Series champs hoodie or the 2010 one? Decisions, decisions . . .

Forgot to put in a W-L record: 93-69.

And no matter what happens today in L.A., it can’t turn out any worse than this:

http://www.thediamondangle.com/marasco/hist/od1907.html
- zumiee said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:35 am
  
  Cool article. Thanks.
- chipower9 said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:50 am
  
  What a trip…thanks for sharing, Mac.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:19 am

Panda is listed in the starting LU and batting third.
- chipower9 said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:42 am
  
  That’s great news…
  
  Here is the full line-up in case anyone is interested:
  
  1. Pagan CF
  2. Scutaro 2B
  3. Sandoval 3B
  4. Posey C
  5. Pence RF
  6. Belt 1B
  7. Torres LF
  8. Crawford SS
  9. Cain P
  
  1. Crawford LF
  2. M Ellis 2B
  3. Kemp CF
  4. Gonzalez 1B
  5. Ethier RF
  6. Cruz 3B
  7. A.J. Ellis C
  8. Sellers SS
  9. Kershaw P
  
  It is on like Donkey Kong!
zumiee said, on April 1, 2013 at 10:38 am

Bryce Harper goes yard in his first AB. Are you kidding me? (grin) 2013 NL is out of the gate. Game on!!
Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 11:17 am

Andrew Baggarly ‏@CSNBaggs 12m
I told Bochy none of ESPN’s 43 experts took #SFGiants to win pennant. “This changes everything,” he joked. Motivational material, I think.
ewisco said, on April 1, 2013 at 11:27 am

not going to make predictions but do want to wish the other flapper who was born on 4/1 happy birthday!
- Irish Kevin said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:13 pm
  
  That would be ME, happy B’Day to you to Ewisco!! The this is a holiday for CA state workers for CChavez day, but I told my friends the state is finally recognizing my Birthday as well they should!!
  - ewisco said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:19 pm
    
    amen my brother. I was going to take the day off but that didn’t work out. I DID come in late and I’m going to leave early to make up for it 🙂
blade3colorado said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:12 pm

test.
- dirtnrocksnomo said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:48 pm
  
  Passed.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:15 pm

Baseball’s back
The fog has lifted
The Earth has shifted
Baseball’s back

Sorry, lovers of fine poetry, sorry Mr. Rock
But it’s back!!!!

And that’s exactly how I feel, the fog is gone, the sun shines on the darkest day- the game is back…
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm
  
  well crafted, fine message
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Kat: which 4 are your real picks? With your permission I will make the correction for you.If you want to keep the ones on top, I’ll just delete the bottom 4..
- Alleykat said, on April 1, 2013 at 1:39 pm
  
  Yeah delete the bottom 4 Twin…Thank you.
  Posey guns down a stupid Crawford at 3rd.Digging that!!!
  That a boy Matty getting out if that mess..30 pitches Ouch!
Macdog said, on April 1, 2013 at 1:39 pm

Thank you Crawford.
Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 1:42 pm

Hey Edd, if you want to join the circus, I’ll let you in as my co-manager. Send me an Email and we’ll figure it out.
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:24 pm

Pence! Almost . . .
salty said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:39 pm

That may have been the only mistake from Kershaw. Cain hasn’t made many either. Kind of game where the only run scores without a hit.
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Shit, Pence. Wear the damn things.
Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:50 pm

This is the inning. Kick some Kershaw ass!
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 2:56 pm

WOOT! Opening day SF Giants baseball on espn and not at stupid o’clock
- Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:01 pm
  
  edd – If you’re still looking for a co-manager thing and you don’t mind being a part of the Clown circus, send me an email.
  Cheers man.
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm

I see the giving up big hits to opposing pitchers hasn’t changed . . .
salty said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Unfuckingreal…why wasn’t Affeldt in?
- unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:20 pm
  
  They’re saving him for the post-season
- twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:22 pm
  
  There was no reason to change pirchers.
chipower9 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Fuck! Bite me, Kershaw.
- Bozo said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:18 pm
  
  Fuck that Chi, bite me Kontos.
Macdog said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:15 pm

Are you fucking kidding me?
chipower9 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:16 pm

Good question, Salt…but they better get his ass up and in, NOW.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:20 pm

One thing hasn’t changed- we were worst in leage against the 9th spot last year-by a LOT. 221 Second worst was .186
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Aye aye aye . . .
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:28 pm

Wow. Might as well get it all out now.
Irish Kevin said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:30 pm

Hmmm…not good, stats for home team winning their first game of the season? Anyone??
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:42 pm
  
  as I noted, pretty meaningless, when you consider nobody is better on OD than the NY Metropolitans — and they were winning openers even in the years when they were worse than wretched
unca_chuck said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:31 pm

3 runs on balls that haven’t left the IF . . .
zumiee said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:32 pm

I didn’t get Kontos pitching the 7th inning much less the 8th inning. I would have thought it would have been Casilla in the 7th. I was thrilled when Kontos got through the 7th; imagine my surprise when he started the 8th.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:39 pm
  
  true; he looked grand in the 7th; and then kaboom, one pitch — and the wheels fell off our little red wagon == which was rolling along so steadily
PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm

What a sloppy ugly clusterfeck of a shitty half-inning. Oh well. It happens. It’s a long, long season, I have to remind myself every opening day. After all, no one has a better opening day record than the Mets. Just to provide perspective.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Kontos was dealing. I’m sure we all figured on Kershaw hitting his first big league HR to dead center.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:40 pm
  
  correct; only his second extra-base hit, ever….so……………
eddacker said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:42 pm

Tell me, again, why we pulled Cain? felt weird at the time, more so now,
Kershaw-hero-status 1 Closer-by-Committee 0
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:43 pm
  
  he had over 90 pitches, if that means anything
- chipower9 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:45 pm
  
  Probably that he had thrown 90+ pitches through 6.
salty said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:44 pm

I saw affeldt warming I figured he was going to pitch the. 8th.. especially with Crawford due up 2nd…but as always, I defer to King Bruce.
- zumiee said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:54 pm
  
  I just didn’t realize that Kontos was that high in the reliever rotation. I considered him near the bottom of the list. My only strong memory of Kontos last year is the sucky job he did in Game 1 of the World Series.
  I’m not high on Kontos.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 3:55 pm

The pitching strategy is different in a tie game vs. being ahead 1, Casilla is now the set up guy who would have pitched with a lead in the 8th, with Affeldt and/or Lopez available for a lefty.. Kontos would have pitched the seevnth in any case…
Blue is dissing Bochy too, but Bruce handled that as he usually has. Again, the pen strategy is very different in a tie vs, a lead. I’ll go with Bochy, even though I know he’s CY-less.
Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 4:03 pm

Pfffftttt. My turn off phone/internet/car radio thing worked to perfection and I made it home at 2:57. I can’t remember watching a Giants game on tape (without knowing the outcome) for years and the one thing that sucks about it is not getting into the flow of the game. I found myself constantly wanting to fast forward lulls in the game and so I was hitting ff, doubled ff, triple ff. It took me less than an hour to watch and I never got into the *baseball flow*. Lame, especially for opening day.
Rough ending, especially for Cain who was very good. Kershaw was fantastic though. Every pitch was perfectly placed. And he hit a bomb for the game winner so about all you can do is *tip your cap*. I didn’t watch the post game show, but I’d be interested in knowing how many games in history ended with the pitcher throwing a complete game AND the pitcher hitting a home run for the game winner……..
Anyway, no biggie, it’s just one game. I still don’t know why Pence failed to wear his shades. I guess looking cool trumped his interest in making a play…….
- ewisco said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:15 pm
  
  second pitcher since 1921 to pitch complete game shut out and hit home run on opening day according to knbr team. the other was bob lemmon in the ’50’s.
  - Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:48 pm
    
    interesting. But were they the game winning hit? And you referenced opening day, I’m wondering about EVER. Shut out/HR/HR is game winning hit.
    Why do I seem to be the only one asking this question on the internet, I can’t find the answer anywhere.
ttedspe said, on April 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm

Well, if it makes anyone feel any better, in today’s Peanuts, Charlie Brown just lost his first game of the season 123-0. Lucy says it’s cuz they never got any breaks
- JBat said, on April 1, 2013 at 6:08 pm
  
  lol. Poor Charlie Brown.
- PawlieKokonuts said, on April 1, 2013 at 6:39 pm
  
  it DOES make me feel better, since I am barely in the real world anyway, it seems
zumiee said, on April 1, 2013 at 4:14 pm

Pretty darned awesome having regular season baseball back, no matter the result in the Giants game. I enjoyed watching it. The Braves/Phillies are on now. Should be a good one.
As I wait for it to start….anyone seen the movie “Game Change”? I saw that last night. That’s one of the scariest movies I’ve ever seen. I kid you not.
Nipper said, on April 1, 2013 at 4:23 pm

At least the real games start. Kershaw had one of those days. Tip your cap.
twinfan1 said, on April 1, 2013 at 4:48 pm

I’ve saved this thread for the predictions, maybe a couple more of us could do that too, for insurance.
Irish Kevin said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:29 pm

So…since this is April fools day and my birthday, I will say that the Giants just blew their perfect season 162-0?? Oh no!! I am crying in my beer
- Irish Kevin said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:30 pm
  
  Oh wait this isn’t the Splash!! I take that all back, my bad
- Flavor said, on April 1, 2013 at 5:46 pm
  
  Happy birthday Kevin. After dodging April Fools jokes all day, I’m gonna have to not believe this is your birthday, lest I fall for another one. Happy B-day though if it actually is 🙂 🙂 🙂
  - Irish Kevin said, on April 2, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    
    Yes it is, a very young 58!! ha ha and yes that is my real age too. I know some of my post sound really childish!! ha ha