Limp, Lifeless, Flaccid and Tired……
Well, that was ugly.
When your all-star stud catcher is hitting .227, and that’s good for 5th highest on the team, your team is in trouble. Let’s take a gander at who is batting below Gerald D.
Hicks: .206
Pence: .197
Adrianza: 182
Arias: .167
Panda: .162
Hector: .125
Blanco: .087
Can’t win with this stuff and “We Score We Win” is taking on new meaning…..
A Place To Talk About Giants Baseball 
Giants hitting…..where is it? What is it? I don’t care for these players. Great character guys but poor performers.
From what I have read and heard from Sabean he has some special metrics that he emphasizes. Not just that silly money ball stuff. It’s the seldom understood “do some damage” metric. OBP is not factored into the formula.
What feeds this metric? Kicking over the post-game buffet table? Smashing a water cooler in the dugout?? Might be time for some of these types of antics to kick-start this team.
I thought it was going to happen after that called 3rd strike on Pagan. He was livid.
What feeds it? Cha-Cha bowls, of course.
Probably hard-pressed to find a Cha-Cha bowl in the Mile High City…
Now Friday night, that will not be an issue.
“Limp lifeless flaccid and tired”….a good description of this blog.
Speak for yourself . . . hah!
No, sounds like what you have in your hand and are hoping to bring to life. Go screw yourself with limp flacidness…
Welcome, sandy!…
Yeah, welcome Sandy. A bunch of the Flappers are out back…waiting for you to come out. You’re the special guest for a good ol’ fashioned “blanket party.”
Well, this is the completion-reversal Jamesian post. We can’t pitch OR hit. Bleeeeh.
I love the Giants announcers when they talk about the starter for the day hoping to be the “stopper”. How can you be a stopper if the team barely scores? Instead, I want somebody to be the “bopper”…
Right now we need a stopper and a bopper (or 3 or 5)…
Giants aren’t as good a hitting team as they were the first week of games, they aren’t as bad as they’ve been the past 10 days. I think they’re all trying to hit a home run every time up because they don’t think the guy behind them is going to get it done. And Bochy doesn’t help with his hitting philosophy, which is basically grip and rip…
Chipower9 said, on April 22, 2014 at 8:15 am (Edit)
“Well, it cannot get much worse. Need Bum to go deep and keep the Sherpas at bay,”
Agree Chi, we need Bum to hit another grand slam…oh, you meant pitching wise, well that too. š
Yep…I was thinking pitching, John…but WTF…half the regulars cannot hit themselves out of a wet paper bag, so let’s hope Madison launches something other than a few of his snot rockets (a big fly would be good).
The positive on all this? It is early. The season is only a little over 12% done. And you think losing to the Rox in their pinball arcade yard, the Bums got shut-outu 7-0 by the sub-.500 Phils last night, 7-0.
I think this team will come around…they’re just scuffling right now (all teams go through stretches like this).
I still think Vogey is done until he proves me differently. On the flip-side…one of the guys I wanted to sign instead of Voges was Arroyo. He is 1-2 with a 9.50 ERA and 2.00 WHIP. Vogey isn’t much better, but Arroyo is inked for 2 years at 23.5 mil.
Yep, I would have gone for Arroyo, too. He’d do better at ATT, the Dbacks yard is not good for him, though he’s been cuffed on the road. I said earlier I thought a decision would have to be made on Voggy by mid-May, I’m not wavering on that. That’s about 4 more starts. If he keeps looking like Wellemeyer’s twin, it’ll be time to bring up somebody. Kuiper this morning on KNBR said he thought they’d give him 15 starts to sort it out. Crap, that’s half the season, and too many IMO if he keeps leaking oil, since he’s been leaking oil like this for well over a season. He’s a #5, but he’s had one good start out of 4 so far, the rest have not just been blah, they’ve sucked. I’d rather see a young guy up here as a #5 and suck while learning, there’s a chance he’ll improve…
Interesting. In looking at some of SF’s top prospects, out of these four starters (all of whom are pitching in Richmond):
Crick
Mejia
Blach
Blackburn
Crick has the worst numbers (as our number 1 prospect).
Derek Law is looking good, too. 1.23 ERA and 0.55 WHIP. 11 Ks in 7.1 IP.
I would assume they’re bringing up a pitcher after Huff got hurt last night. Dunno who down there is more suited to a mid-relief role…
Looks like they’ve recalled Perez.
Yup…Huff to the 15 day DL and Perez has been recalled. Not that much of a surprise to me, as one of the pieces I was reading this morning had Bochy saying that he thought the bullpen was in good shape for the final two games against the Rox, especially with Thursday being an off day.
OK, good. If he thinks the Pen can handle it, they’ll not need 13 pitchers after the Coors visit. Perez has such a big bat, he’ll surely help start a hitting fire… š
Giants need to make a statement tonight. Currently, they are the only West Division team with a winning road and home record. I would like to see that continue (especially, since I will be at the game). Surprisingly, both the Denver Post and reader comments were muted with regard to last night’s win. In short, there is a heavy dose of skepticism among fans about the Rockies ability to pitch and hit on the road (4-7 record) versus their out of this world play at Sherpa Mountain.
Perhaps not noticeable to you, but the Sherpas are already being “stretched” in starting pitching, as Chacin and Anderson are both on the DL. De La Rosa was on the ropes prior to last night’s game. Unfortunately, the Giants couldn’t deliver the knock out, much less even jab. The key for the Rockies this season is ensuring their bullpen is not overworked. Consequently, it would be nice to see the Giants put up some crooked numbers of their own in tonight’s game.
Here’s some pic of old time ballplayers.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_vault/2014/04/22/william_vander_weyde_photos_of_baseball_players_from_1904.html
Good to see a pic if Joe ‘Iron Balls’ McGinnity . . .
Well in my opinion, which is the best one. there is no way in hell that Panda and Pence continue to have a BA below the Mendoza line. I said in the previous thread. Lets have these slumps now, cause they are not going to continue for 150 more games.
Very cool picts, Dirt. Thanks for sharing.
Duff Cooley and Socks Seybold. Now those are some baseball names!
In 1879, Duff was rated the number 2 most popular name behind John and Socks was number 7, following Edward at number 6.
Seybold, whose real nickname wasn’t for public consumption, was ‘Whacksocks’ Seybold.
Yeah, those ar cool, Dirt. Much better than the usual posed pictures from that era.
God do we have to suffer another year of total shit from are 5th Starter?
We’re getting “Vog-Zitoed” out there!!!
Speed dial Edwin Escobar ferchrissakes!!!
From what I have seen of Vogey this year, I would take Zito for a couple of starts at this point. Seems as if Nicole didn’t service Vogey quite enough, and probably did not fix enough enchiladas…
1. Angel Pagan (S) CF
2. Hunter Pence (R) RF
3. Buster Posey (R) C
4. Michael Morse (R) LF
5. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B
6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7. Joaquin Arias (R) 2B
8. Ehire Adrianza (S) SS
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
I’d throw Ehire in the 2 hole just for a goof. Make him feel important.
And bat Bum clean-up…
I’m not into 2b being a 3-headed monster. Hicks’ batting average is low, but his OBP is .400.
Holy SABR, Batman, let the guy have a bunch of starts in a row. His defense has been very good since a shaky start. Arias and Adrianza in the same lineup just sucks.
I agree that I am not crazy about have Ehire and Arias in the line-up together, but they both do need to get a start here and there…just not at the same time.
Dirt, thanks for the look at the cool photos. I’m always fascinated by the early years of baseball.
Have you ever seen this one Zumiee?
http://tinyurl.com/katg3d7
Cheeseball job of reporting the other day on one of the ESPN channels; they were doing a story about Jordan’s record-setting scoring performance against the Celtics in a playoff game, and they never once mentioned that THE CELTICS WON THE GAME. The Celtics’ strategy had worked beautifully. Play Jordan one on one, and shut down his teammates. Jordan scored 60-something points, but the Celtics won the game. (That strategy wouldn’t work a few years later when Jordan had a better supporting cast.)
We can’t win with this stuff:
Vogelsong 7.71 ERA
Lincecum 6.43 ERA
Between these two and the 3 Ps, which group do you think is more likely to perform poorly for the entire season?
No one is talking about Bum, who has been mighty shaky of late. He was tabbed as a Cy contender coming out of ST, but teams are hitting .326 against him. His whip is 1.78. Say important game for him tonight.
Why Adrianza is on the roster and Abreu– who had a good 2013 — is in the minors is a mystery. Actually, it’s just fucking stupid.
May Ehire deliver the game winner.
I said the same two weeks ago.
Missed it, Wilco. I was kinda expecting him to be the fallback for Scutaro and was dismayed to see he didn’t make the team. Admittedly, I didn’t pay much attention to spring training.
Adrianza is not a major league hitter. Not now, not ever.
Thanks, Macdog, for alerting me to the free MLB.tv game, SF-CO. Of course, I cursed our boys. As soon as I tune in, Tulo homers. Sure nice to hear Kruk&Kuip.
phuckme, Belt
Haven’t seen that since Little League
I heart the POTD. Not an Earth Day fan. Feel-good cleanups. What about the other 364 days of the year? I loathe litter.
I tell ya, HD gives amazing quality. Easy to take for granted. But wow.
Richard Nixon was sitting in back of the dude eating.
Finally!
Snots is dealing, but as usual are offense is squealing…
Gee can’t wait for this productive inning of Arias, Adrianza , and Snots!
My money’s on Bum for a hit!
So sad, yet so true.
I don’t know much but when I hear Krukow talk about “good at bats” I am certain my team is not hitting the ball and scoring runs
So true Flavor!
Thank you very much Bumgarner you made my prediction come trueš
Atleast we have the Sharks, up 2games to zero ,and leading 1-0 tonight,Go Sharks!!!!
Fuck…these guys have to score more than one damned run…time for a rally, dammit!
Time for Morse to run into one…
Morse looks 7 foot 3.
Un Fucking Real…
How do you spell “impotent”? G-I-A-N-T-S-H-I-T-T-E-R-S
If only they had the runs.
I think Panda could afford to gain about 40 pounds.
Fuck Tulowitski…cannot stand that jackass…
I know he is from NorCal, but have read quotes from him on a number of occasions where he was talking shit about the Giants…
Maybe the Giants can draft some Sharks players, they can score…
The Rox mascot is about the stupidest damned thing I have ever seen….
He is an annoying cocksucker.
LaTroi Hawkins? Seriously? I thought this dude retired 6 or 7 years ago. Sometimes Flemm goes a little overboard — Hawkins has had a “long and distinguished career”…
Time to send his long and distinguished ass to the showers…
Fuck Sanchez…sucking on the high heat…
That shit is SO FUCKING WEAK…
ugh.
I need a drink…hoping Cain can salvage at least one from this POS series.
Night Flappers. Get ’em tomorrow…time to check out the Tiburones…
G’night, girls. (TedSpe, come back. Twin, good to see you here the other day.)
Just fucking pathetic. I’m disgusted with these horrible spaghetti bats.
As I said earlier, the Giants don’t need a stopper as the announcers say. They got that tonight — you give up 2 runs at Coors, that’s very good pitching, equal to a shutout somewhere else. They need bopper(s). Bochy should do something radical to see if he can stop this teamwide slump bullshit. I’m tired of seeing this weak offensive shit year after year. Since Bonds left, the Giants offense has just been weakass. Whether it’s the park, the players or a combination — it is beyond tired…
Yeah, those 2 championships were real yawners…
I believe the facts are that our offense was surprisingly good in 2010 and 2012. And we are certainly early in the season.
Love the championships, hate the bad offense…
I knew where you were coming from, Snarkkie. But with all the recent success, it just might take a few years for me to be able to get really twisted about them again.
I’m grateful that tomorrow’s game is during work hours.
Runs scored history: Giants rank in the NL
2000 3rd 925
2001 5th 799
2002 3rd 783
2003 6th 755
2004 2nd 850
2005 15th 649
2006 10th 746
2007 15th 683
2008 15th 640
2009 13th 657
2010 9th 697
2011 16th 570
2012 6th 718
2013 10th 629
In the period 2005-2013 the Gyros are averaging 665 runs per season, or 4.1 rpg…
Bochy likes to keep his lineups stable. Very slow to make changes. But it’s time. Put Pablo in the 8th spot until he starts hitting. The 8th hitter often doesn’t see great pitches to hit, which suits him anyway. And I agree about Adrianza and Arias not being in the lineup at the same time. Dusty Baker used to do that a lot, rest a few regulars in the same game, almost giving that game away. Makes no sense. At least Pence seems to be heating up a bit….
Oh, and James, your 8:01 was pretty funny…. “if only the (GIANTSHITTERS) had the runs… š
I’m back to normal below, Paul š
I seem to recall a similar stretch of futility at Coors last year. Sure enough, there were two such instances: 2 and 0 runs in mid-May, and 1 and 1 runs in late June that capped a six-game losing streak. Either way, it’s still painful to watch.
Well their’s 1 team that knows how to win on the road, Oh yeah that would be the San Jose Sharks!!! 4-3 in OT Baby!!
Up 3-0 now, put a fork in the Kings their done…
Lets see, Sharks 17 scores in 3 games
Giants 3 scores in last 2 zzzzz
Atlanta loses 1-0 tonight. They’ve scored 76 runs and have a 13-7 record. Milwaukee has scored 86 runs and their record is 15-6. The Dodgers have scored 83 runs and are 12-9.
I hope someone else finds that up lifting.
Yawn…….
SFGiants: Bumgarner the 2nd pitcher to throw a CG at Coors, allow two or fewer runs, and lose (Jason Jennings, 2006).