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Angling for a Split

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 10, 2014

Day Game today. Hicks likely taking his final at bats in the major leagues……

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  1. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 10:58 am

    How does Hicks make 100 grand more then Crawford? Must of caught Sabes in a good mood day.

    • salty's avatar salty said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:06 am

      Fantasy bs, I think.

  2. salty's avatar salty said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:09 am

    They gotta cool off pita Lowrie.. 10 fer his last 20

  3. dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:16 am

    Surprised Bochy was able to resist flipping Morse and Belt.

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Last 30 days, and July to date for Blanco: .181 BA, .252 OBP; .107, .219
    I suppose it’s possible Gary Brown would actually do worse than this. But, at this point, I’d like to see him try. Brown must just want to go to another organization — if they won’t even try him out with this crap going on above him, then there’s no hope for him as a Giant. Gregor may be a nice dude, but seriously — this is astoundingly bad for an outfield position, let alone a guy that’s been in the leadoff spot a lot. How long are the Giants going to wait out Pagan? Giants must get somebody in here to get more offense out of their outfield other than Pence…

    • Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:50 am

      Their wait out Pagan, just like Scutaro.
      There crack medical staff has Bochy & Sabean snowballed in believing they will save the day in a few weeks/ months Snarkk😱

    • Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:21 pm

      Blanco sucks ass at the plate (and most 4th and 5th OFers are probably not significantly better), but he is an above average defender. I haven’t looked at Brown’s numbes in a while, and having trouble doing so from work, but last I saw he wasn’t exactly setting the world on fire. No way he comes up before the rosters expand. They’ll keep him in a position to play every day and get 3-4 ABs.

  5. dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2014 at 11:57 am

    Since the turn of the month Panik has gone 7 for 24 for a .292 average with 2 runs scored and 2 BB. I’m not saying he’s the next Robby Thompson but I’ve liked what I’ve seen on both ends for the most part. I hope they keep him around if Scutaro returns tomorrow.

    Besides, have you seen all the Panik Attack signs at the park? I’m sure Baer senses the sweet aroma of marketing dollars.

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:11 pm

      dirt, I agree with ya on both points. Do you think Baer has already contemplated changing the name of one of the bars to Panik Attack Zone?

  6. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    If Scutaro can function relatively well, the Giants could have a decent platoon at 2b, Scutaro and Panik.

  7. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    Yeah I would stick with Panik as well Dirt. He could learn a lot from Scoots up here and still get plenty of AB’s since Scoots won’t be playing many back to back with his ailing back.

    • dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      He’s approaching 100 ABs so I assume they’ll give him some more run. Agree with you on Scutaro. He’s going to go full Glass Sanchez with too much playing time. It would have been nice to have him off the bench last night as an alternative to Blanco when the bases were juiced and 1 out.

  8. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    Well if Scoots doesn’t hold up( likely scenario) I wouldn’t mind going after Ben Zobrist,Tampa’s out of it so who knows what we could put together, besides he has a Smokin hot wife for the Flap to check out!

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:05 pm

      I suggested awhile back about going all in for both Zobrist and Price. Fuck the Farm, win now.

      • Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:58 pm

        Yep…Blade and I were kicking the tires on Zobrist the other day. He can play multiple IF positions and also some OF. There is a team option on him for next year, so you could probably get him short term (a year or two).

  9. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    Panik’s numbers still aren’t much better than Adrianza. No reason not to play him more often than not, but he’s mostly a singles hitter (2 doubles=total XBH in 50 ABs), and he only has enough of them as of last night to be hitting .234 and an OPS under .600.

    Giants offensive numbers rank in NL over all according to B/R:
    9th in runs scored.
    12th in hits
    3rd in HRs
    11th in BA
    12th in OB.
    5th in slugging
    8th in OPS

    Interestingly, Pagan and Pence only guys over .300 and top 2 on team in OB.
    Bench guys obviously drag over all numbers down but none of call ups were much improvement. Like to see Belt get rolling too, SF desperately needs it.

    • dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      True enough. I see him as sort of a Scutaro type contact hitter with a good eye. Except he can bend his back and field a grounder.

  10. stickman's avatar stickman said, on July 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Thanx for the insight, Flav. After Panik went 2 for 4 last night and was in the middle of plenty of scoring action i was wondering why the hell Hicks got the nod today. Like it’s a thank you for services rendered in April and May and then ~~ Sayonara!

    With Hicks and Blanco batting 7 and 8 i can just envision Belt breaking out of it a bit today like three times on base and not scoring once.

  11. salty's avatar salty said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    They need *it* from among the big 3 RHB’s Pence Posey Morse…

  12. stickman's avatar stickman said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Some contender out there jonesing for a shortstop and a bit long on outfielders? Look no further. Sabean is no Billy Beane, not quite hardly a riverboat gambler. Some GMs might go for it, though. Crawford ~ grew up a big Giants fan and all but business is business, right?

    Why? Take a look at some stats from the pitching dominated Eastern League: 305 AB’s, 47 runs on 102 hits including 15 doubles, 4 triples and 3 dingers for 52 RBI’s. Guy has 36 walks to 57 strikeouts for a .399 OBP (a category where the Giants currently are piss-poor); a .439 SP (we’re talking a 23 Y.O. slender and lanky middle infielder here) resolved with a .334 BA and an .839 OPS. Currently Matt Duffy is tearing up the Eastern League with the bat. His 15 errors might be a tad high, but don’t know much about his overall defensive cred.

    A speedy, quality center-fielder might be available. Would a probable defensive fall-off linked with a not unlikely offensive pickup at SS added to a nice segue in center and leadoff be worth such a deal? Again, i doubt whether such a maneuver is in Sabean’s M.O., but it does intrigue me.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    Huddy huddy huddy. Limit the damage.

  14. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    The only thing left is to give up a hit to the pitcher who never bats.

  15. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    This is the first of these games that I’ve sat down to watch, so I’m hoping for a good one.

  16. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:23 pm

    Be nice to get a hit before the 5th inning.

  17. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Stupid gamecast. How did Huddy get on? Come on Pence.

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm

      Walked, I think he worked a 10 pitch one.

  18. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    ahh walk. nvrmnd.

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    On field delay? Is Snarkk running across the field again?

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:40 pm

      HP ump is coming out, from the shot he took in the first. The bad news is that I think Angel Hernandez will be taking over.

      • Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:00 pm

        That’s all we need Bozo😃
        Shit we don’t have Balking Bob Davidson and that Rodeo Cowboy Clown in this series as well do we?

  20. WilcoJoe's avatar WilcoJoe said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    I am starting to worry about Kuip. He just called the Giants trainer Mark Letrande…. He hasn’t been the trainer in like 20 years.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 5:28 pm

      really? Missed that. Hope it’s not an early sign of Alzheimers or something like that.You never know.

  21. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    Wonderful.

  22. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:46 pm

    Look at the bright side, Hudson’s walk broke up a perfect game…

  23. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Yesh.

  24. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin said, on July 10, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Giants hitting is pathetic

  25. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    FUCK!

  26. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    Clown – glad to hear (previous thread) that you didn’t get hit too hard by the hurricane.

    Now can the Giants get some fucking hits and score some damned runs!

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      What the fuck was that? my god man, was it a hit? DAMN, those are nice.

  27. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Ditto. To both sediments . . .

    Christ. Please do something here.

  28. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    OK Morse got it started…keep the conga line moving boys. We need some fucking RUNS!

  29. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Brandon time.

  30. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    I’d think they’d walk Belt to get to the dead part of our order . . .

  31. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Then again . . . . . bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

  32. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    Alright Hicks, be a hitter now.

    • Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      No shit. He sucks so bad of late, he could suck start a Harley.

      • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm

        “he could suck start a Harley”
        OK, I laughed out loud on that one.

  33. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    There’s one for snarkk from Blanco. Come on Hudson…help yourself out, brother!

  34. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Blanco.

  35. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Of course. The 2nd slowest guy on the team is on base when Blanco doubles.

    Fizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzle.

    Go Huddy!

  36. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm

    Un-fucking-real….

  37. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    I don’t understand that move. Why the fuck is Hudson batting????

    • Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      Because he has only thrown 62 pitches and it is only the 5th inning? But seriously, I wondered the same thing, but who are the options to PH? Colvin (sure as hell wouldn’t be Arias or Adrianza). Pfffttt…

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:23 pm

        Yeah, I knew about the 62 pitches. Just wondering the way we are blowing if that was our best opportunity against this guy that was throwing the no no. Shit, I don’t know.

  38. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    Well, broke up the no-no.

  39. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    Because our bench blows.

  40. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Might as well put Bummie in to PH and finish.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm

      Exactly. Much rather have him then Hudson, who is already showing cracks.

    • Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      Bum has to rest up for the HR Derby…

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:24 pm

        Don’t get me started Chi about the AS game and HR derby. Hilarious.

  41. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Fuck, the way we put together runs, that might have been your Giants replay opportunity for the entire game.

  42. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    Of course Huddy is going to crater now.

  43. salty's avatar salty said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Dreck….

  44. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Please drive home safely.

  45. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    Oh, fuck me. Like clockwork. Bochy doesn’t pinch hit for Huddy, and he craters.

  46. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    Fuck, I hope I am wrong and he gets out of this mess.

  47. Chipower9's avatar Chipower9 said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    FUCK! Pardon me while I scream at the top of my fucking lungs!

  48. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Pfffttt! Dammit!

  49. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Seriously? Might as well let fucking Huddy wear this one.

    What a fucking pile of shit.

  50. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    So much for Angling for a Split😞

  51. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    An out!

  52. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:30 pm

    So much for letting Huddy hit for himself. Not only did he make out but the A’s teed off on him in the next inning

  53. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:35 pm

    Bochy shoulda gone with my 2:19 suggestion. Oh joy what now?

  54. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

    Baseball at work is supposed to make the day go faster.

    Not make it a living hell.

  55. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:36 pm

    Gas can jr, meet gas can.

  56. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    Christ. Crawfish 0-3 2 strikeouts.

  57. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:50 pm

    What’s funny (along with me talking to myself here) is fucking gamecast can’t keep up with how fast we make outs.

  58. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Scutaro is DHing tonight. I don’t have a problem with that. See how he does just swinging the bat. I’d rather see him PH when he gets up here anyway….

  59. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    nitey night.

  60. OMD's avatar OMD said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    I like men with hairy chests and shaven ankles…..

  61. salty's avatar salty said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    Felt it was over at 2-0. Even 1-0, the way they tank when not scoring first.

  62. OMD's avatar OMD said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    I beat off to men in speedos

  63. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on July 10, 2014 at 2:59 pm

    I don’t have to “watch” the game (can’t see it now here on the east coast anyway) (just finished watching the Phils sweep the Brewers with my 97 year old Dad) or even follow it; I can tell how it’s going by reading the real-time streaming comments here. It sort of reads like one of those old Batman TV shows: “Pow! Fuck! Bam! Shit! Pfft! Damn! Fuck me!” ……. You guys are too funny. Unfortunately, losing is not. The team needs to stop worrying about winning, because that obviously doesn’t work. The players just need to come out every game and do their jobs. Kinda like they were doing earlier in the year. It’s a clean slate, tied for first almost at the break. And if Sabean thinks he can find someone who can do a better job in the next few weeks, pull the fucking trigger. Still a long way to go. We’re probably going to see about 4 mini-seasons within this one season. Already seen 2….

  64. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    We got shut out 11 times last year. Today would be our 10th this season.
    Ugh…..

  65. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    6-0?
    I just parachuted in to this fiasco. Looks like I’ll not waste any more time with it.
    At least we got 1 of 4…

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:14 pm

      Well, let me give you a summary – We said fuck me . . . and they did.

  66. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:19 pm

    One more reason why I dislike Adrianza

  67. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    One less run . . . Asshole Adrianza

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:24 pm

      Miller is ripping him for not taking second, I get that, for missing the bag or whatever. I guess. But, ripping him ad nauseum, including Flemm, for about 2 minutes on radio, seems ridiculous. What about the vets that are stinking it up, earning millions? Seems like there needs to be some some strong commentator criticism of those guys…

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        Hey, I am an equal opportunity “ripper.” Rip those fucks too. This entire team should be ripped and ripped frequently.

  68. Nipper's avatar Nipper said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:22 pm

    No question the A’s are superior.

  69. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    on the board baby!!!!!!!!

  70. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:24 pm

    Henry Schulman ‏@hankschulman 2m
    Adrianza didn’t hustle to second base on bloop hit and never touched first base on his way past. Otherwise, played it right.
    Hilarious

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:27 pm

      Love that line. Fuck, did that strike me funny.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:42 pm

      This team is just off in the ozone somewhere. After a month or more of this “fetid” play for all phases of the game, how much longer must we see this crap before it’s time to blow it up? I would argue a good team just doesn’t crater for 5 weeks like this, it’s not some short term deal. I don’t see any downside in making serious changes, especially if they benefit this year’s 25 man and/or the farm system…

  71. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    A’s have Abad pitcher. Giants have a bad team.

  72. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    Snarkk, define blow up? The only parts I see “blowing up” are Pablo and our two injured guys, Pagan and Scutaro.

    – Hudson has a club friendly contract and he has already paid season dividends for a half season.
    – Morse has a minimal contract and similar to Hudson has already paid dividends.
    – Craw can hit lefties now.
    – Belt is the closest to untouchable we have in my mind.
    – Posey is one of the best catchers in the game (way less worth at 3rd and 1st, which has been suggested here).
    – Pence is awesome, so he stays.
    – Our pitching rotation has been pitching great as of late.
    – Bench sucks, but they have been forced into starting positions. Besides, what are they worth?
    – Relief corps has done well overall. Sergio would have the most trade value.

    So again, who goes? What gets blown up?

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 10, 2014 at 3:59 pm

      I start with Bam Bam. And why not? Maybe it sends a message to the team: “Hey, look, your lousy hitting got Bam Bam fired.” Maybe the team wakes up a little.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:01 pm

        I offered that last year during that cratering. They hit like crazy through his May. He was a genius then. I don’t like anybody to lose a job, but hey, it’s done all the time. Probably won’t help; but can’t fire the whole team…

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      I’ve offered Panda and Romo before as blow up potential. Unfortunately, they essentially need to replace the entire bench. I’d leave starters alone…

  73. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    I would be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge a great anniversary: tomorrow will be the 30 day celebration of the last time Brandon Hicks got a hit.
    If he manages to stick around long enough to go a full year without getting a hit I’ll send him a Flap bumper sticker as a prize…….

    • dirtnrocksnomo's avatar dirtnrocksnomo said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:19 pm

      Just send him a Bowker Gang t-shirt.

      • Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm

        you guys are killing me!!

  74. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 10, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Go Padres!

    If Hicks manages to stick around long enough to not collect a hit the rest of the year, I’ll drive him off the Golden Gate bridge myself.

    Mar 31 to June 8 = 42 – 21 ….. 63 games

    June 9 to July 10 = 8 – 21 …… 29 games

    In other words, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

  75. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on July 10, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    Great line by Tom Tolbert..
    So he has Larry Baer on and Baer’s driving his car by Candlestick sayin my cell phone usually has a dead spot by there, so Tommy comes back strong and says to Baer, “Oh I thought you were talking about the Giants offense”


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