Ugly Everything
Back in the day, you’d root for your favorite players and you never wondered who they were you just looked at them and knew.
After free agency started revving up, the cynical fan talked about having to root for laundry. A’s fans are the poster fans for this.
But I’m looking at these new Niner uni’s and feel like I can’t even root for laundry anymore.
What is THIS?
Apparently I am rooting for the Texas Tech Red Raiders tonight……
Forget “red and gold till I’m dead and cold.” Now it’s “red and black and Kap just took another sack. I want the old uniforms back.”
After a train wreck off season and now these hideous uniforms to open 2015 the word “rooting” isn’t going to have the same meaning either…….
Go Giants.
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Played my first fan duel college football and NFL over the weekend and I have to say, now I know why baseball gets a bad rap. Much easier for the casual fan to win money especially NFL. If Zaire of Notre Dame had not gone down, I was looking at a very nice payday. Did okay for my first time regardless. Romo’s last second TD to Whitten put me in the money in one tourney and has me set up quite nicely for tonight’s doubleheader.
nice! But pricing is always super soft first week of NFL. Expect that to change for week 2. I’m a pretty huge Matt Ryan fan tonight.
Good to know, makes sense.
Totally agree with ya, Flav. Looks like an Arena football uni to me.
The NFL is pushing this alt uni shit just like baseball has. Throw in College (Nike) and their thousands of different unis and you get this. Look Ar the fucking bumblebee unis of the steelers to see true hideousness. Or the jets or the packers…
Pitts . . .
Yeah those bumblebee jerseys the Steelers wore were the most hideous I’ve ever seen. Would have looked better if I had a black&white TV set and maybe it looked more like convicts…
At this point I just hope they can play. If they win they can wear whatever the fuck. . . .
Uni thing has permeated all major sports—how many new ones for Warriors this year?
Mmm, hope SF doesn’t buy into Pagan kool aid of last few days. He had one good month at start of season when OB was .370–since then no month above .292. That’s not someone who can be your leadoff hitter. And defense this year was not ml caliber and at ATT CF has to have great range.
The Pagan of 2012 does not exist any more—15 triples that year, 10 total past 3 injury plagued years. Decline in slugging has dropped OPS dramatically. RHP killed him this year, .237 BA.
I liked the guy since he showed up and it was cool to see the catch other night and him smiling for Amy in the post game. But 3 seasons of injury problems for a speed guy mid 30s is enough for me,
Going forward I don’t see how Giants can trust he survives 162 and thrives. DeAza and Blanco can cover defensively there IF there is another solid hitting corner OF. Otherwise, Giants have to find longer term CF.
Same shit, different year (for the past couple). What makes you think it will be any different next year? Unfortunately, if he is healthy going into ST, no way in hell they eat his approximate 10 mil salary to make a spot for another OFer. (Hope Sabevans proves me wrong here, but I am not holding my breath.)
Red Raiders is a good one flav. wilco would know I’m sure, but don’t they have guy dressed in black plus hat and mask riding a horse as mascot? Actually pretty cool as I remember.
Still think Horned Frog mascot I’ve seen at TCU b-ball games is one of best, up there with Rice Owl and St. Joseph Hawk mascot that flaps arms continuously throughout the whole game. Does LSU still have real Tiger?
Those black unis suck. I remember a few years back when Nebraska went with black unis. Talking about a team that had been old school up until then with their classic/plain red and white unis. It is all about the marketing and more dollars. Fuck, look at how many alternate jerseys the Giants have introduced over the past several years. Welcome to the new era…the era of the all-mighty dollar and marketing machine.
Flav – didn’t the Cardinal bust out some black unis a few years ago?
I am with Charlie in that if the Niners win regularly, I could give a rat’s ass what they wear.
Giants need to keep doing their part…winning games, and hope for help. I remain hopeful that we can close the gap to at least five games between now and when we host the sorry-assed bums for four on Sept. 28 through October 1st.
GO GIANTS!
yeah, they were terrible. We’ll probably see them this year again. For all the shit Oregon gets about the different uni’s they use, most of them look pretty cool.
Yeah, by and large, I like most of the unis that Oregon runs out there.
I think the Yankees might be the only team in all of sports that doesn’t play the alternate uniform game.
I know a woman in Lubbock, TX who some years ago was touting me about a great player they had named Wes Welker. She said he would be a star. I remember when they had Donny Anderson.
The Miami safety? No, that was Dick Anderson. Liked that guy for some reason. Donny Anderson isn’t ringing any bells.
as many of you know, I play my fair share of daily fantasy sports. So I’m down with talking about it pretty much any time. But the way the NFL shows were presented yesterday was a j-o-k-e. Nearly every segment was some yahoo displaying his draftkings line up and walking us through how he built it. Who CARES about this? People that don’t play fantasy don’t care about it. And the people who do play it are smart enough to to not care what *Morts* has done with his fantasy line up. I could see doing one segment because DK is a sponsor but it was literally in almost every segment of the pre-game show. Insane how big daily fantasy has gotten in just a couple of years. And the commercials. ENOUGH with the commercials. They’re making me miss the Viagra commercials.
You and I are not the only ones who hated these commercials . . . http://digiday.com/brands/everybody-hated-draftkings-fanduel-commercials-data-shows/
Shit, the schedule makers aren’t giving us much hope re the Dodgers. They do have Pittsburgh though coming up. We need to keep this up and put pressure on them. Make up 2 games a week? Then the Dodger series we can put the screws to ’em.
Agree Chuck. Every flapper should check out Loo’s video about Willie Mays that he posted late last night. So much good shit in that documentary about Willie and the baseball era he lived in. Just the commercials are worth a look. However, I digress . . . This documentary is equally about the Giants epic quest to win the pennant. They were actually in 1st place about a month before the season ended, then they face planted . . . and came all the way back, where on the last day of the season, Willie and the Giants were waiting in an airport listening to their transistor radios for the result of the Dodgers/Phillies game – to determine if they would be playing the Dodgers in a one game playoff . . . or going home to SF.
Well, you all know how it played out, but nevertheless, sometimes miracles do happen. Go Giants!
I have been saying since we were swept by the bumbinos, that we just need to make up a few games (at that time it was a game a week). Making up two a week would be sweet, but even if we make up three between now and then, we will be within 4 1/2. A sweep would leave it to those final three games to determine the winner of the West. Just make the fucking series relevant is all I ask (and that the bums do not clinch on our turf).
I remember Donny Anderson, he was with the Packers in their glory days in the 60’s . Running Back
wore #44 but also did their punting and kicked left footed as I recall..
You got that right, Kat!
Been 40 years since my last visit to SF and a doubleheader vs Red. 1 month ago I booked a week revisit with my girlfriend & the 1st 2 games vs Bums. Didn’t then.. but now dusting off the prayer book…
Longshot for post-season.. yeah…. But the Giants feast on good team chemistry while the Bums individual attitude could just backfire with a bad loss or see that magic number hold at unlucky no.13.
In any case, the experience at the phone park with 40k fans will keep me breathless.
GO GIANTS!
Dennis, I owe you a call before you go. Hey, ya never know.
yup, those uniforms are …well, deformed.
Just noticed the socks. wow.
The best old-school unis haven’t even been used.
The Rams of the 60s were hands-down the best unis out there. The dark dark blue with the white.
Yeah those were pretty cool Chuck, but to me it’s was the San Diego Chargers late 60’s(John Hadl to Lance Allworth sp?)light blue&gold with the lighting bolt.. Those were bad-ass football jerseys..
snarkk – great video share from the last thread (Astros comeback). I sure as hell hope the Stros hang-on and win their division…sure as hell want to see them over the Rangers.
Yeah AK those were cool as well. Liked the player # on the side of the helmet as well
Agree on the late 60-early 70s San Diego SuperChargers unis. Some of the all-time best.
all the *mathematically alive guys* need to chill. Panik is done for the year. Probably Crawford too. Aoki gone. Pence not coming back. We can beat a few of these shitty teams but our team is not a team that can win in the playoffs even if we get there.
Agree on that, but starting to waver as far as giving up on Pagan. Maybe he can be OK next year for 140 or so games. Maybe he’s finally healed up. He’s not that old and supposedly conditioned like a boxer (not the dog kind). He’s gonna be in CF on opening day no matter what we think…
Being in this race is a pipedream. Giants have to essentially win out, and the Greinke/Kershaw combo has to crater. So, I’m cool with watching these young guys play. Let some of these future Pen guys show what they can do, too. I don’t need to see Lopez or Affeldt pitch any more. Osich, Gearrin, Strickland, whomever. Give these young guys some rope…
And chances are the SP will be Bum, Heston, Leake, Cain, Peavy…
I think they will look hard at adding an additional starter (even if Leake is signed). I have heard this will not be top-tier, but along the lines of Zimmerman or Samardzija. Agree with your earlier assessment Loo that Pagan (barring some type of injury) will be the opening day CFer next year. And I believe that the OF will be made up of players already on the team this year. Blanco will be back for sure, and from there they will add either Aoki or Byrd. If you think they will go out and get an OFer who hits for power, I think you will be sorely disappointed.
Gotta keep with the negativity … it’s been working so far … 30 + runs in 3 games? What?… well, that’s over. Votto is gonna bring Huddy back down to earth … 7-1 Reds!
Go Giants!
Loo, wouldn’t surprise me you are right about Pagan, and Chi has said the same thing at $10 mil he’s likely coming back.
But, he started this year off healthy, and lasted a month before the numbers fell apart, even less than each of last 2 years.
I’m hoping Giants find a taker for his services and do a Kemp deal, paying whatev is necessary.
Reds are awful and appear to handing runs out for free tonite.
I seriously don’t see that happening (Giants trying to pawn-off Pagan). If he is healthy, and I assume he will be, he will be in CF on opening day. I say book it right now. If I am wrong, I will buy anyone who thinks differently a beverage of choice next year.
Would’ve been wonderful if Adrianza’s blast to McCovey Cove had stayed fair. Adrianza?
At least in baseball there’s not a penalty flag thrown every third play like the NFL…
Or a challenge flag.
Or 15 commercials.
NFL used to be a good game.
Now, it’s getting near unwatchable.
The refs explain all these penalties like they’re reading the criminal code…
The endless stats and fantasy crap crawling along the bottom of the screen is also very annoying to dinosaurs like me…
Concur on all points. I just cannot sit and watch an NFL game the way I used to…
The incessant injuries started to bother me a few years ago. Age-related sympathy, no doubt. But keereist, Reggie Bush is already gone? At least they didn’t have to carry him off the field on a stretcher.
I’m grateful for what Tim Hudson has done for the franchise, but I won’t shed a tear when he leaves. The dude is done and should just go home and enjoy his family, riches and retirement. Quit dragging the shit out.
Whew! Good job of managing by Bochy. He did try let Hudson get the W. by going with him a bit long, but when it got dire, Lopez (the supreme Loogy) and George the Greek got the job done with minimal damage done. Wise to walk Votto. The rest of their lineup is not very scary.
Yeah, the victory lap shit is really played out.
I’m with Chi on this one–no more River Cats til they’re eliminated once and for all. Angels, Red sox all blew leads by dropping 8 in a row. Hell, 2010 Pads lost 10 in a row, right?
LA comes in for 4 in 2 weeks. giants are playing a bunch of chump teams and rolling right now.
Craw just about ready, Pence to take BP. If you can make up 3-4 games in 2 weeks, then see what’s going on.
Absolutely.
Yep…that is exactly where I remain, and will until the fat lady has sang (mathematical elimination). Stranger shit has happened. And to Flavor’s comment about the Giants not having the bullets to battle should they miraculously get into the post season, I really do not care…I just want to see those final four against the bums be relevant, and if they get in, giddy up…let’s see what happens.
I’m really trying to like De Aza. I wish he’d get hot or at least lukewarm…
Romo has been great for about 2 months now.
Nice sac fly job by Belt…
Casilla with one of his nailbiters starting this time…
If you’re a hitter down two strikes to Casilla, you’ve gotta be ready for that hook…
Miller likened it to the Nevada Falls at Yosemite.
I heard that. Trouble is a few dim or drunk people seem to go over that thing and other falls up in Yosemite every summer and get killed.
Despite signs at the top that say don’t go into the water, or you’ll slip and you WILL DIE…
Jeeezzus … I love how Casillia makes it look so easy … another seemingly effortless 9th …
After he effortlessly put a couple of runners on base. 😉
Exactly!
Tomorrow … Heston vs …who? …Lamb? He sounds formidable … I mean, even his name strikes terror into our hearts … Reds win 3-0!
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway…
The bad news… Kershaw wins against Rocks 4-1…
Giants are now closer to the Cubs than they are to the Dodgers.
Cubs at Pirates for a pair today. They have tougher teams to play than SF or LA does, just can’t make up ground 1 on 1.
Love Casilla’s curve, and he still throws 95. Inning started with jam shot bloop hit. Bruce smoked that last one, but it didn’t go near as far as the one he hit off Osich the lefty. Other than that, great job by pen.
I was surprised Bochy yanked Strick.
What’s with the Reds guys and the one black sleeve look? Votto I can understand, but the back up CF who was 2 for 19? Dress right until you establish yourself as a ml hitter.
Byrd had the one black sleeve going too.
Don’t know for sure if Byrd had one black sleeve going entire game – watched his double on highlights and he had it there, and it was not a forearm protector.
Years ago this was prevalent in b-ball for the show off types in Asian club teams. If your team color was blue, then guys (headstrong girls too) went with one long blue arm sleeve and/or long blue sleeve down one leg. Couldn’t stand it, headbands neither even if they matched team colors.
Better in than out … word up!
Sorry that was meant for Chuck & Chi (below) … I’m a little bleary eyed this morn.
No way in hell Bochy doesn’t Play this like he’s not in it. I said a while ago never underestimate the chokabolity f the Cubbies.
Sure we’d be undermanned if we did sneak in. Still and all better to be in than out. With Bummie I like our chances
Regardless.
I am drinking the same kool aid, Charlie. Let me pour ya another.
Was heading to the brewery yesterday afternoon and listening the the pre-game. Cannot recall who it was that mentioned he went down to the clubhouse. Stopped by Bochy’s office and then accross the hall to Murph’s office. And who might be hanging out…none other than the Say Hey kid, his god son…what’s his name…oh yeah, Barry Bonds (off getting Mays a plate of food, too), and also Joe Morgan. Man, to be a fly on the wall on days like that. I can only imagine…
Casilla brings back memories of days of torture past. The dude sure makes ya sweat when he does a job like last night. But when it was time to get it done, he did it in spades.
And the Niners (outside of so many fucking penalties) looked decent. The D certainly did a good job of tackling, overall. Hey, if they can play and win like last night…I could give a shit what unis they wear.
All and All a great night for my Fantasy Football team.. Have Hyde 30.60 pts,Hopkins 23.60, Jenkins 23.00 for a overall grand total of 131.10 to my opponents sorry ass 85.00 pats.
Major Can of Whoop Ass!!!!
I wish I would have had more than one Hyde share in DFS last night. That dude is a stud.
Yeah Hyde won me some green in one tourney but I really needed Bridgewater to find the end zone and the Vikings Defense to play like they did in the first quarter. Had that happened, I was looking at a four figure pay off. I felt really wrong having to root for the Vikings last night.
Way to go Joe.
I had the same situation with Peterson in one DFS . . . Totally MIA last night. No idea what the idiot Viking coaching staff was thinking in first half when game was close. They should have been feeding him the ball.
DeAza could be a little shell shocked. Giants are his third team this year; coming from Balt and Bos, 2 real good hitters yards after 5 yrs with ChiSox (another good hitters yard where he once hit 17 HRs) to wind up at ATT and see that big wall up there in RF/RCF power alley must be daunting.
Not to mention a guy who grew up in the DR and has played in warm weather heat and humidity of Chicago and elsewhere Midwest and East, ATT must seem like the Arctic, notwithstanding local heat wave of last week.
While watching the Giants sweep the Friars this weekend, I was wondering what the fuck the Padre braintrust was thinking, when they assigned Jedd Gyorko as the everyday shortstop? The dude plays 3rd base fairly well, but since his assignment to shortstop, he has to be near the bottom of all SS in not only the NL, but all of MLB (-5 DRS, 16.5 UZR/150).
Miller said something about that too, how odd it was they flopped Amarista and Gyorko.
Sure enough, gyorko flat out dropped a potential DP on the transfer and I think everyone was safe.
Altho I do think lot of people would take issue of the words “Padre braintrust” in the first place, including their fans.
More like a Padre “BrainFart.”
For what it’s worth … I’m working on a loose analysis of this season going month by month…
I’m through June (78 games) and what I can tell you is that the Giants lost a total of 14 games in that period in which they surrendered early inning runs (inning one through three). They lost 16 games in which they began with the lead.
15 loses can be directly attributed to SP:
Vog 4
Hud 3
Hes 3
Lin 3
Pea 2
10 attributable BP loses:
Machi 3
Affeltd 3
Romo 3
Casillia 1
My conclusion is that there isn’t a lot revealed by this first half perusal that we did not already suspect or know. Other than Bum (he too had a couple of shaky games in the first half), SP was poor and the pen didn’t help matters. The 16 games of lost leads are broken down to 4 each in April & May, then doubled that in June alone = Shitty pitching all around! Pitching stunk in the first half.
Our hitting, for the most part, was decent if not overwhelming. There where periods where only Panik and Duffy were consistent. Duffy was batting further down in the order. Also, certain key first half series seemed to take the wind from our sails. Case in point, after a decent road trip at the end of May we came back home and split a nasty 4 game series with the Braves which had us winning the first two and losing next two. We lost 8-0 to Williams Perez who 2 hit us, and 7-5 on a Casillia blown save. Then the Pirates came in and swept us. In each of those games we had early leads which couldn’t be held by either the SP or BP.
Bucs take Game 1. Lester vs. Happ in the nightcap, matchup that might favor Cubbies, but Happ has done pretty well since coming to P-Burgh. I think it was Loo who wanted to trade for him a while back.
Yes it was, Mac. So we’re 7 back in the LC at the moment. Cubs have 6 left with Pittsburgh, 3 with St. Louis. 6 with Milwaukee, 3 with Cincinnati and 1 with KC…
So if they go 8-11, we have to go 14-4 to tie…
LE, the thing about baseball is there no figuring it. We’ve won when healthy and lost when healthy. We’ve won with half the team on the DL and lost that way. The starters have been money, and they ve stunk. Same with the pen. For all that they are still in it, although they have a long row to hoe.
Which is why they are playing it straight and no callups getting turns in the rotation.
Yep, I agree no figuring it, true, true, true … Yet, there is fun (for me) in rationalizing it to some degree. I enjoy looking at the patterns, trends, etc.
The injuries certainly did not help matters but what I surmise from reviewing games of the first half is we really did play pretty damn good offense without Pence. And, we really did have some miserable pitching. If it wasn’t for the consistency of Panik, Duffy & Blanco plus those devastating timely offensive spurts by Crawford we would have been in a lot worse position than we are now.
Very cool article written by Matt Duffy
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/matt-duffy-giants-the-new-kid/
Awesome article by Matt . . . Shit, I had tears in my eyes when I read what Casey said to him (Props to Casey too). Thanks for sharing Chuck.
Yeah, gotta love Giggles now. I was at Citifield for that first game. Duffy failed to mention the encouraging pre-game words from me behind the Giant dugout. What am I, a nobody?
No kidding. I see McDeepee in a different light now. I guess chemistry has something to it after all. . .
Just thought it was killer of Duffy to talk to Tomlinson right when he got in.
Old school shit of watching out for each other and making sure the kids get it right.
Did anyone read the Bowtie thing, The Giants Way?
Super article by Duffy…
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