Worse Than Just One
Just a devastating loss. If you think all losses are created equal, well, you and I look at things differently.
I don’t trust our late inning guys. No trust. Maybe you guys grew up in a happy home filled with puppy dogs and candy corn. Your parents stayed together. Trust comes easy to you.
Not Big Flavor. No trust.
This loss was the equivalent to the loss that Pujols bomb WOULD have delivered had Sock Man not saved the day (and the season). Let’s see if this one has any lasting effect. I bet it does….
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I do think some losses are worse than others, but for whatever reason that one didn’t hit me as an absolutely crushing loss that is going to keep us down on the mat for several games. Of course we can still lose these final two games, but that is just because the Dodgers simply have way better players than we do.
I’m not screaming for a closer either. Someone real good is going to cost us prospects, and I don’t want to see us pay that price. Someone below that level is going to be comparable to what we already have.
Rogers has been great. He blew a one run lead to the best team in baseball. Walk/Walk/Bomb was pretty jarring, but it happens.
Agree with Chi that Sherfy may have been a keeper.
Agree–with Crawford and Posey in clubhouse, I don’t see things falling apart. Giants have handled adversity pretty well all season. Nats outplayed them back there, Giants hammered them out here.
All signs point to 3 way dogfight. gonna be ups and downs…don’t get too excited either way. And keep an eye on that kid Gray too.
Yeah, by the 5th I had it in the ‘win’ column; and the 2 walks and the bomb at 1:15am or so was depressing, thinking I couldn’t get to sleep after that.
But that loss doesn’t reflect what the team is made of. I heard Yaz say recently that stuck with me, that no one player feels the weight of expected success and each pulls for each other. I’m sure Rogers is getting pulled up from despair by everyone on the team as that is the foundation and fabric of their success.
It’s what the guys at my card game yesterday, all Yankee fans, could not understand this kind of success coming from a ragtag bunch of no names and aged players….
No, IMO, even a loss like this is just one game.
My head is clear of that game.
Hope I’m right.😲😬
Head-to-head games in division are always of more importance, but outside of that, I am more with Dennis. You cannot dwell on the past. Wash that shit off, rub some dirt on it, and get back after it…
Well this is a very cohesive team I guess they could weather this storm. A lesser connected team or one led by a dunderhead might be in trouble.
I believe the players move on from losses quicker and easier than the fans do.
Especially in the regular season…
I agree, Loo, and especially with this team.
We just need one of the next two to get a split. Getting a split is a huge win IMO. Taking the series is gravy. Mmmmm….gravy….
Why should closers nowadays have to be big strikeout guys?
They come in to get 3 outs with the bases empty.
They only needs strikeouts after they’ve gotten themselves in trouble.
The days of Gossage coming in with 2 on and nobody out in the 7th are long gone.
And even then an induced DP was better than a strikeout…
Good point. think it’s just personal preference for hard thrower capable of blowing someone away with heat as opposed to more finesse guy. Out is an out no matter how you get 27 of them.
Issues yesterday (and for Gausman) were command of pitches–Wood missing spots when he tried to come inside and Rogers leaving meatball up to Smith.
As far as closers go, I’ll take McGee over Jansen and Melancon. Another set up guy like maybe Hudson or Loo’s guy Barlow from KC for late inning depth, sure. Zero interest in Kimbrel or Hand.
I trust in Z to do what’s necessary. I think this entire season is “found money underneath the sofa cushions.” Conversely, Z, et. al. in the front office probably had another take 180 degrees different. So, who am I to say what he should do at the trade deadline? From day 1, the dude has produced and made more right decisions than “arm chair” GMs like myself.
I’ve always thought that prospects were ALSO chips to be dealt, i.e., they don’t have to necessarily pan out in your system to the parent MLB team. Consequently, whatever he decides – I am 100% supportive.
Agree, Steve.
lest we forget, the pen shut down the Dodgers for 6 shutout 1 hit 1 BB innings in game 1 Monday in relief of Gausman, Giants ace that didn’t have it. That would be Littell Garcia Leone Jackson and McGee in order.
By the by, tip of my hat to Dennis and Stix for their optimistic projections prior to the season starting. Not certain (chime in if I am wrong), but they were the only Flappers thinking this team was going to have a winning record. Both of you dudes were spot on.
Goes to show you that even a blind squirrel finds the nut once in a while. 😉 JK…definitely kudos to those two for their bold predictions.
Maybe Bozo too nailed it???? Not certain.
Believe Bozo was there as well for preseason optimism of plus .500 record.
I thought my 78 was optimistic.
Like I said in the other thread before I realized there was a new one, this season is found money.
No one saw this coming, but it really shouldn’t change things that much. Our schedule has been fairly creampuffy and these next couple weeks will tell a lot what with these Dodger games, and the upcoming Houston series. We may have a better sense of where we stand once the deadline rolls around. But I sincerely hope they don’t give anyone away to chase a season that more than likely won’t end like we want.
That includes Bart, Ramos, Luciano, Bishop, and any number of solid prospects we now have. I get that they are bargaining chips, but this team is full of holes and throwing draftees at Kimbrel is a losing proposition that will only hurt future development.
Agree. I absolutely DO NOT want us to go “all in” on this season and mortgage the future. Z has a plan, part of which was to rebuild the farm and future. I
Starling Marte if the prospects aren’t to steep would be a huge addition to this outfield.
211 AB’s .294 avg, 7Hr’s, 22 RBI’s, 19 SB, OPS .843 can play both CF and LF a Farhan type player!
Tauchman useless, Duggar now hitting .146 for July Marte doubles that avg,Dick&Ruf liabilities in the OF,Slater hot&cold.
If Ramos tears up AAA my new starting OF Aug 1st would be Ramos LF Marte CF Yaz RF
Kat – I saw multiple articles where it mentioned the Giants being one of the top teams interested in Marte. Agree that as long as the prospect ask is not too high, then go for it (he is a FA next year, so he would be a rental unless we inked him to a new contract).
Tauchman should be gone. Dick strictly a bench guy. Slater and Duggar have till the deadline to prove any worth. Ruf should stay at 1st. He and Wade can platoon till Belt is jettisoned into McCovey cove.
Awkward instant, and the first player is jettisoned
Legs furiously pumping in mute baseball agony
Very clever, Chuck!
Mr DJ risin’
Let’s not also forget that in last 2 games vs. 2nd best pitching staff in NL, giants have scored 13 runs and hit 6 bombs. Posey Flores Thairo Dick Yaz Wade Jr.
Last time Webb and Urias matched up, went like this:
Webb 5 IP 1 hit 1 earned run 0 BBs 7 Ks
Urias 5 IP 11 hits 6 earned and bomb
Urias is beatable but Buehler will be tough to get more than a split. So glad I was sound asleep for last night after checking out at a 6-2 lead. It is odd that it seems when Rogers is just grooving pitches, right-handers seem to pick it up easily.
I have liked what I have seen from Jarlin Garcia at out of his last 9 appearances just 2 hits and one run…would like to see how gutsy he would be in a save situation.
With that said, Flodger lineup os beat up so it is not inconceivable to shut them down next two days as well.
Not a bad idea at all, GH…
I still prioritize a right-handed slugger over a new closer.
I would expect Marte is going to get the Marlins a lot of prospects. Cant see us in the mix.
agreed.
I do not (think Marte is going to get Miami a lot of prospects). Marte is a FA at the end of the year, and he and the Marlins have already tried to work out a contract and failed. Miami has almost no leverage here. No way Z is going to “break the prospect bank” for Marte, etc., IMO.
I still think a starter is going to be the priority based on everything I have read to date.
Muncy is in the line-up tonight for the bums. Turner is not.
I expect we get a couple fastballs in the ribs tonight. Buster and, well, he’s the only star.
Yaz
Yaz will be the one drilled he easily leads the team in that category. Besides it’s easier for a lefty( Uranus ) to administer pain to a left hand hitter like Wood did to Muncy.Figure one in the back..
I’d be shocked if they don’t drill someone, mainly because Turner was p.o.’d.
Yaz is the very likely target…
Turner got hit with off speed pitch from Wood, who kept missing trying to go inside with slider. cbs said pitch that hit him was 84, so it wasn’t fastball. Count was 3-2 iirc and he’d thrown slider outside for a strike. Just couldn’t locate inside one.
Muncy, same thing. Wood was trying to pitch inside and hit him mid back on shoulder, zero intent.
Roberts might be pissed, but I’d be surprised he tries anything. LaRussa he ain’t, I hope.
1. Austin Slater (R) CF
2. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
3. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
4. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
5. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
6. Thairo Estrada (R) SS
7. LaMonte Wade Jr (L) LF
8. Curt Casali (R) C
9. Logan Webb (R) P
Let me ask this.. Do you all think the Giants can make it to the finish line with this Outfield of miscellaneous misfits? Except for Yaz who’s legit,they are woefully below average at best..
No. But I don’t want them to sell the farm either. This is a mirage. If they can get a couple pen arms and a bat on the cheap, go for it. Z is great at that anyway. I do NOT want them to believe that this team is one huge deal away from the WS.
Interesting that Wade’s getting a start against a lefty. No other non-lefty options with Estrada stuck at short.
Wade started last night’s game against the lefty opener as well.Still hitless against LH pitching 0-25?
How can they possibly justify keeping the Sock Man another day?
high praise for saving the season with that incredible catch?
That was a long time ago.
no trust. Never forget. That’s my motto.
I’m the one saying forget the past
B/R lists among it’s NL Leaders a column for all teams all positions Wins Above Average
For LF Giants are 11th.
CF 4th
RF 3
OF overall 5th.
I think you have to give Kap credit for managing who he has and putting them in best spots. Slater, for example, has very high OPS vs. LHP. So does Ruf for that matter. It’s what he does and Giants are at or near NL tops for runs scored per game. As Twin used to say, “warts and all.”
Giants have 6 guys with double digit homers and 4 more sitting on 9…
wow maybe Loo is right and Yaz get drilled next time
everything Muncy does makes me want to punch him in the face. Twice.
Yep and along with Turner it could only help improve their looks..
Yaz is heating up!!! 4 Hr’s since the A/S break!!
Yes he’s the only outfielder that’s legit
Why was that a mistake to location? A high 95 mph fastball after 2 curveballs. That’s good hitting.
Krukow’s been losing track of his cliches for a while now
Taylor is quickly getting on my shit list..
Save some hatred for Chipmunk Face.
Giants just cannot avoid the Dodgers scoring in the first inning.
no one looks more terrible or more like a pussy than Logan Webb standing on the mound.
He’s an Appalachian version of Matt Cain.
I don’t know, I think he looks like a Nazi thug.
Aren’t they supposed to be deviously handsome?
well, in Nazi propaganda maybe, but in reality — sadistic semi-simian low brows
And in Hollywood, although I guess that’s the officers. Webb is a little more in the streets and trenches.
dumb stereotypes we’ll have with us always
Webb belongs in a Breaking Bad episode. Fucking Todd.
Never realized how much Webb reminds me of big sweaty.
We should keep on drilling dodgers. Starting with Khris I can’t spell my fucking name right because my parents are major league assholes Taylor.
More middle names than Dirty Al…
Nice move by Casali sprinting towards the dugout to help convince the ump.( it was a strike but these days who knows)
Webb looks like an ugly newborn baby…
Placenta looks better then Webb’s face..
I don’t think Webb looks all that unusual. As I mentioned last year, there’s a guy in a house down the street who looks a lot like him. The guy has a “Beware of Owner” sign on his front door.
I wonder if these ads between batters is driving fans to watch baseball.
Was Muncy rubbing one out there?
Suck on it Khris Kringle
Ugly or no, he’s got Muncy a couple times
You’re right, Chuck.
We’re behaving like mean children here.
We should be supporting the lad…
Come to think of it, Webb looks like the Nazi tank driver in Kelly’s Heroes.
A movie I highly recommend
Woof Woof Oddball
And yes a classic movie..
I loved that movie as a kid. After hyping it to my own kids during their teens, we watched it together. I lost all credibility with them.
Hey my son dug Phantasm. I seriously dug that
That pissed off Uriah Heep anyway
Ooooops.
Send Ponch.
I’m putting the call out on this right now: Urias is the ugliest motherfucking baseball player since Willie McGee
Ponch Estrada is the fastest Giant now?
WOW supplanting Slater&GraveDuggar who thought?
I’m going to need times now 1st to 3rd,1st to home,straight steal, home to 1st on these 3 dynamic runners 🏃♂️
The Dodgers pitched to Casali; they feared him not.
LA tried their best to give the Giants a run, but as usual, can’t make enough contact to get a guy in from 3rd with one out. Estrada is fast as crap, any old contact probably gets him in, but no — pop up. LA gets a guy in scoring position, boom — the guy is in like crap througha goose…
Bellinger wasn’t even in scoring position.
Even better…
Failfailfailfailfuckingfail. Fuck these guys. Shades of 2008 and 2018 when we had no trouble getting runners on but left them dead I. The water.
HRs are nice but this is killing me
Webb may not be the ugliest guy around but if you look up ‘doughy fuck’ in the dictionary you’ll see his pic.
C’mon Chuck, that would be Derek Law…
Jesus. Solano has the range of a wildebeest.
He better not go visiting Lion Country Safari…
Very nice job by Webb.
This game is easily winnable…
i feel like this game is a definite L. Please prove me wrong
Last night I was listening to some jazz on Spotify. On came a version of Misty, with Stan Getz on sax. Really tasty. Reminded me that “Play Misty for Me”, the directorial debut of Eastwood, was released in 1971 — the fall per Wiki. Sheezus, 50 years ago. Really liked that movie. “Get off my back, Evelyn !” is a line I remember. Restaurant scene filmed at the Sardine Factory in Monterey. It’s still there. They had a great wine list last time I was there, prolly 20 years ago — super fish entrees…
That was the last movie they showed at the Fox Theater in San Mateo. Love all the Carmel/Monterey shots. Clint the DJ!
This game looks over.
agreed.
Giants need another homer or two. Looks like no chance they’ll put a few hits together with a walk or something to get a few in…
This is the kind of game that can be won by the Grave Duggar or the Sock Man…
In your dreams
You want ugly? Hands down this guy Loo probably remembers is hands down the ugliest ball player.
Don Mossi who played for Cleveland in the mid 50’s to mid 60’s.
Had big bushy eyebrows, a nose the size of Karl Malden, and ears bigger then Dumbo.
He had a face even his mother slapped..
https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/top_ten_ugliest_baseball_players/s1_7916_10864196?
He’s not that bad…
“I tell ya’ I get no respect, no, none at all.
When I was born, I was so ugly the doctor slapped my mother”.
Rodney Dangerfield…
My wife and I were happy for 20 years. Then we met…
-Rodney Dangerfield
I do like this Jackson guy though.
Dleetwood Mac as your walk up song? How fucking whitey can you get?
good inning. He’s off to good start.
As I’m getting fucked up tonight, since I started posting on my phone from WordPress it shows random other blogs under this one, and my god there are a LOT of people who write insanely long crazy 150,000 word screeds on religion politics and navel gazing and any topic imaginable, and none of them have comments.
It’s amazing how much time people have on their hands.
Nobody works anymore…
They’re engaged in knowledge work.
Weird. I never realized how much I would be missing the bore core.
Fuck. A runner reaches base and the hitters act like it’s a 3-2 count in the 1st pitch.
This is the blah game we were expecting after the blown game yesterday.
Tomorrow’s the bean ball war…
Urias is tough tonite–only 1 BB, hitting corners and getting breaking ball over.
Still couple innings left for Roberts to gift Giants an opportunity to win this.
Our stud LH outfielders are just waiting for a crack at Kenley…
yeah, but Urias looks like a bajo sexto player in a norteña band
Were the fans booing Pooholes?
Littell looked like a closer there…
Jackson is climbing the list as well
Fast game anyway
Lots of balls in play, too.
Alvarez is worrisome
Shoulda stepped on his hand. Stupid fuck. Cost him a hit yesterday
Yeah I can’t wait for some Sockless&Grave Duggar lowlights to finish this night off.
Lol
Pinch runner!