The Rockies LOL
Limping, lumbering, flailing…..you pick the word for how we are heading into the all star break. Colorado is terrible, especially away from that joke park they play in.
Oh well, it’s baseball, there are going to be a lot of losses like this one over the course of the season.
Opener again today. It’s such a half-assed way to play baseball, isn’t it? This isn’t baseball.
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Definitely not the baseball we grew up on. Does anyone know our win-loss record with openers? Tyler could have had that 3-2 pitch to Grichuk called for strike three to get out of the inning with the tie intact but next pitch next batter is the three run shot on the first pitch by Tovar. May be time to shake up the lineup and insert Matos into the lead off to see if the offense can spark…
I don’t even care what the record is. I just hate it. It’s pussy baseball. Give me a starter who can pitch all game. That’s the baseball I miss. All this namby pamby 1 inning bullshit is lame.
Spot on Flavor. We might be the last generation that saw baseball the way it was supposed to be played.
Z as quoted by Baggs in TA: “I don’t really see us adding starting rotation depth because we like the guys that we have in that category.”
As James said last night, they already have guys they could be starting, like them or not.
That’s ridiculous. If they think they have them, the USE them as starters. Manaea? Sure. Stripchat? Fuck no. Cut your losses. Winn? Sure. Let them pitch!
That being said, I don’t think anything Z says now can be considered set in stone.
If Mets sell Scherzer goes to LA and I’m gonna be pissed. SF finally is getting the crowds back. lets make a move! Do we want to sell all our prospect’s for Ohtani and pay him $600 million? Not me.
They are 8-5 with openers. Anyone think they’d be 8-5 in those games if Manaea and Junis had started them and been treated like a starter, i.e., allowed to work past any early struggles?
I’d care more about the shift away from the 3-5 spots in the rotation, if there was still a chance those guys could put up impressive win totals ala the good old days. We are in the age where a starter can win the Cy Young back to back with 10 and 11 wins.
Exactly. It’s just a strategy Kap is using to try and win as many games as possible and preserve pitching staff for 162. Nothing wrong with .615 winning pct over 13 games no matter how it’s done. Beck Winn Wood et al could be part of rotation and DeSclafani surely will once healed.
Rays have used 14 different starters this season for at least 2 games. they just lost an SP and might use 2 more to close out weekend.
Getting a ML hitter to replace rooks (Schmitt Wisely at least) to cover for Estrada deeper need. Heliot is hot right now too in Sac, ala Bart.
Stripling is going to start until he proves the early part of the season is who he really is now. The odds are he’ll be better than that. On TV, his stuff looks the same as when he came up. His worst ERA is 4.80 when he’s pitched extended innings in a season. To finish around there for SF, he’d have to have a pretty good second half.
Just saw this . . . Agree with what you said (see my post below) about “. . . odds are he’ll be better than that.”
Stripling was done after 3 2/3 innings in his second start and third outing overall since missing more than a month with a lower back strain. He struck out three and didn’t walk a batter and of course, had the 2 earned runs. Overall, he’s had 2 July appearances with 5.2 innings and an ERA of 3.18. In June, he had the 1 appearance, where he went 3 innings, with 1 earned run for a 3.00 ERA.
His shitty season (thus far) ERA of 6.37 is totally due to piss poor April and May performances. Just my take, but he is IMPROVING AND DOING BETTER, SO GIVE HIM A BREAK. That being said, I go back to what Flavor said at 7:13am, “it’s pussy baseball.” As I commented to Flavor, I absolutely hate this type of wimpy starting pitching too.
However, prior to coming to San Francisco this season, Stripling, who was famously pulled from a no-hitter as a rookie to protect his arm, reached free agency after spending his first 4½ seasons with the Dodgers and the last 2½ in Toronto. At the time – since debuting in 2016, he is 38-38 with a 3.78 ERA in 672 innings and a strikeout-to-walk ratio of 3.91-to-1, which ranks 29th of the 137 pitchers with at least 500 innings in that time span. I may be alone here, but I think he will get better as the season goes on.
You are not alone! Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
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Z’s signing of Stripling looked shitty to me becz the guy clearly is not the sort of starter who can go 200 IP. His avg is about half that. But halfway through the season 60-75 more IP would be welcome. I doubt he’ll get much better than what he showed last night; he’ll probably just go a bit longer.
Just randomly picked the 1966 Dodgers.
They used 5 SP…
Koufax: 41
Drysdale: 40
Osteen: 38
Sutton: 35
Moeller: 8
There are probably even more extreme examples…
1. LaMonte Wade Jr. (L) 1B
2. Joc Pederson (L) DH
3. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
4. Michael Conforto (L) RF
5. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
6. Patrick Bailey (S) C
7. Blake Sabol (L) LF
8. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
9. Brett Wisely (L) 2B
P: Ryan Walker (R)
Expecting a Wisely bomb today!
Kap fucking with the opener W-L stats.
First game Matos out since call up (I think).
the Spahn-Marichal game July 2 1963 came up again in Chron, with mention of about 500 pitches thrown by same 2 guys that night.
In the box score I found 7 HOFs—Aaron Mathews Spahn Mays McCovey Cepeda and Marichal.
That’s helluva lot compared to any Giants game in long time.
To Flav’s point earlier.. I turned on MLB just in time to see the end of the the Tiger’s game. Combined no hitter. I wonder how many there would be in MLB history if they took out every starter after 6 2/3’s innings with 90 pitches with a no no. LAME
PS. It’s the F’ing Tigers. Why not leave him in? A pennant race in a must win game???
PPS.. just looked at the post above me from willedav.. a HUGE contrast!
At least James seeing offense coming back to life.
A lot of hard contact with not enough to show for it.
We got the lead back.
Definitely got a hoof in there…
Pinch-hit Slater tater!
There’s some loud contact.
An in-game injury, what a shock.
5 shutout innings in relief for Wood, 3 hits 1 BB.
Why isn’t he starting? So he can vulture a win?
It worked same way before vs. Toronto in game Giants won there.
Walker started went 1 inning, Wood came in and shutout Jays for 5 innings. 5 hits 0 BBs 7 Ks.
James on winning streak.
Doval K of Castro was great, couple sliders then high hard one at 100 right by him. whoosh
Victory!
Victory!!!Sure is great to have a shutdown closer in Doval!!
His stuff is unhittable with 3 nasty pitches FB check!Slider check! Sinker check!
No one cares about pitcher wins anymore. I bet that hasn’t been a contractual incentive factor in this millennium.
Turned into a fun game.
Reds’ De La Cruz stole third and stole home on the same play. That’s probably happened very few times in MLB history.
Watching the cinn milw game, 9th inning, Elly hella chains (batting 4th in the LU) comes up and the announcers note that back in the seventh de la Cruz hit a single and then stole second, third and home.
Go Giants!
Elly the most exciting player to come up in years. Rooting for Cincy! Too bad pirates blew it vs D-backs:(
Unbelievable. I just watched the 7th inning of that Cinn game. Elly’s steal of 2B was dazzling. Beat a very good throw. Then he stole 3B without a throw. The Milw catcher and pitcher looked at each other with annoyance. The catcher lobbed the ball to the pitcher, who then turned and walked slowly back toward the rubber, raising his arms in apparent frustration. Elly saw his distraction and took off like a rocket, easily beating the eventual throw home.
Classic little league steal. My son used to do that when he was ten. But this is mlb. Man.
My reds fan friend says the 3B coach, post game, said he realized Elly had a plan when he ignored a high five after stealing third and instead switched his sliding glove to his left hand. The kid was gunning for the befuddled pitcher Peguero.
Bailey and Giants will be back there in Cincy after break.
Reds have rough stretch rest of July: After this series at Brewers ends tomorrow, they play them again after break for 3 at home, then 4 with SF at home 3 with AZ at home. Then back on road for 3 more with MIL and then 3 at LA.
Bailey and the Giants? Ha. Maybe he’ll invoke the horror those fans feel when they hear Buster’s name. Hope so.
Maybe Giants broadcast will flash Matt Latos highlights.
Wonder if Giants will have made Bart back up C by then or made different decision.
Sabol’s not going anywhere. Btw, I looked at Elly’s steals again and he did not change his sliding glove. The feat has already turned into myth among Cinn fans.
Of course not with all those HRs. Sabol stays, plays OF/DHs. 2 best hitting rooks by far. Bart’s the better C though in long run.
Can’t fault Kap for using opener and then going to Wood, optics be damned. I’m sure there was communication involved so the temperamental Wood could be prepared in advance for when he’d be coming in.
That’s twice now he’s pitched 5 shutout innings in relief of opener. We’re talking about a guy who lowered his ERA to 4.68, lol. it works and Giants win.
Giants are paying him $12.5 million this season to do what the AI tells him to do. And it’s working.
The pathetic L.A. Angels. Pathetic.
The MLB Network played the movie “Pride of the Yankees” today, and there are some things not to like about the film, but the depiction of the end of his baseball career because of the terminal disease and knowledge of his looming death are finely acted scenes by the actors, and is still very moving.
Clearly the treatment of the black train engineer which should never be canceled but instead remembered forever as the national disgrace that it was. You can’t learn from something that’s no longer there…
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