Taking Pittsburgh To Brown Town
Didn’t see the game but it appears to be a nice and tidy 6-4 W. It’s funny how many Giants fans there are in Portland. It’s like the Bay Area, everyone loves them.
You all will be happy to know that I won the putting contest I flew up here for yesterday.
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Steph Curry has Day one lead in Tahoe golf.
Braves recalled Dereck Rodgriguez to cover for reliever on IL. He’s pitched handful of ML innings last 2 years (and 2.2 this season), but mostly in AAA since bombing out with Giants.
Trade proposal rumor out there..Harrison,Luciano,&Whisenhut for Shoei Othani…
So the #14 MLB ranked player in Harrison #67 in Luciano F in Whisenhut for easily the best player in baseball,and branding name with the face of the franchise the Giants haven’t had since Bonds? The stickler for me is could they lock him in past the rental time? Giants would atleast have 2 months on other teams to get him signed which will be a huge advantage! Othani instantly upgrades the pitching staff and we all know what power is in that bat hitting 3rd cause I want as many AB’s as possible from him..Thoughts?
Sure would be exciting.
Why not?
I ain’t gettin any younger…
Only if they can do a sign and trade, otherwise that could be devastating to the Giants.
If he’s already decided he wants to sign with the Dodgers, it’s entirely possible he shuts himself down as a pitcher.
He’s got a blister now, and has a Tommy John elbow. His value long term is as a hitter, and as such, may have crossed the Giants off his list.
Luciano, Villar, Hjellie, maybe Ramos for two months of Ohtani, eight fewer bullpen games and 150 fewer Pederson/Flores ABs.
HELL No.
You give up 3 top prospects for an injury prone rental who will be a Dodger by end 2023?…
I think btw Statcast data and Giants hitting coaches they can help unlock Matos at plate as he plays more (76 ABs so far) and they can crunch more data. Totally different environment facing ML pitching every day and uniqueness of the O, especially at night.
what pitches/where can he drive, what he needs to lay off, bat path through zone, hands/stance/load yada yada. Giants have done wonders with others (Wade Jr. Yaz etc.) providing path to success.
And as Mr. Schmitt is learning, game of adjustments at this level.
F.P. Santangelo said it was easier for him to play in the majors. Better lighting, batter’s backdrops, groundskeeping, and food.
I predict Matos will start mashing and get some ROY consideration. Schmitt will take longer, has to hit the other way and lay off the splitters and sliders.
Matos? Surely you aren’t serious.
I’m in with Ohtani if Brass is going to pony up $600 million.
Those guys for a rental? Does he make them a WS contender? No issue trading Luciano. Harrison? Excited about him, but how can this guy be seen as a #1 or 2 starter if he can only throw 4 innings a start? Press isn’t worried, but 1/2 a season in and not one start past the 5th?
Ohtani WOULD make the team more likely to make or advance in the playoffs THIS YEAR, certainly more than Luciano or Harrison, but not as much as people assume.
The Giants record in the bullpen games is very good. Pederson and Flores have 16 HRs between them, and can play the field if necessary.
The biggest problem with Ohtani may be his motivation and interference from his agent. It feels like he’s thinking about next year. He may not put himself on the line for a team he’s not interested in playing for in 2024.
It’s doubtful he gets $600 million. He’ll probably sign for 55-60 million per for about seven years.
Big no on Ohtani. He’s unbelievably injury prone (13 noted injuries since 2018):
https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/shohei-ohtani-player-injuries
In fact, he is injured today, as reported in many online sports pages.
How could the franchise that rejected Correa on the basis of medical history and current health ok Ohtani?
Good point xoot (I hadn’t thought about that). Yeah, I just don’t see that happening. It would be incongruous/out of character for the Giants, particularly after the Correa situation.
Yup. He’s overrated as a pitcher for this very reason.
Also, two way players are generally more interested in their hitting stats, so he may have already crossed the Giants off his short list.
While the extra roster spot a two way player gives you is valuable, it’s kind of like having a hybrid car/boat. The maintenance required for each function is different, and in the NL West, your car should also be able to run down fly balls.
I’m in the no way camp also. I still don’t believe he wants to be here. He personally might win us quite a few games but so might the 3 players mentioned. The whole scenario just doesn’t feel like the Giants way
It’s not.
They’ll do what they usually do – offer just enough to get turned down…
He is either going to SD, LA, or NY. They would match any Giants dollars.
1. LaMonte Wade Jr. (L) 1B
2. Joc Pederson (L) DH
3. J.D. Davis (R) 3B
4. Michael Conforto (L) RF
5. Mike Yastrzemski (L) CF
6. Patrick Bailey (S) C
7. Blake Sabol (L) LF
8. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
9. Brett Wisely (L) 2B
P: Alex Cobb (R)
I think we’re good for 3 bombs today…
That lineup does look pretty good lots of potential.
I get trading prospects is scary but Ohtani over rated as a pitcher? If you looked at just his pitching the last 2-3 years he would be our best pitcher.
Logan Webb is a better pitcher than Ohtani, if given the chance, may even be a better hitter.
He’s overrated as far as what he’ll be paid for his pitching in his next contract. It’s entirely possible he never surpasses his career high of 166 IPs or still be effective four or five years from now.
Long Covid may be a factor for pitchers over 30, his TJ surgery may be another. Didn’t he have an issue with his feet?
His hitting prowess is more bankable long term. He might stop starting or pitching altogether at some point.
Ohtani’s OPS impresses.
His career whip is 1.1 and K’s per 9 is 11.5
Stroman fwiw 6 innings 3 hits 1 run as Cubs beat BoSox 10-4. Lowers ERA to 2.88. Grand slam for Bellinger HR#12.
And one off Cobb’s first pitch bottom 2.
Yaz bombs away!!
Nice majestic drive to Right Center..
“Webb is a better pitcher and given a chance he may be a better hitter: I’m thinking of John McEnroe yelling at Wimbledon:)
They keep running that ad.
2023 Season WAR Leaders
RK PLAYER WAR OFF DEF WAA TRPG ORPG RAA WAAWP
1 Shohei Ohtani 6.2 3.9 -0.8 4.4 9.5 8.4 41.8 1.1
2 Ronald Acuna Jr. 5 4.6 0.2 3.8 5 4.7 38.4 0.5
3 Wander Franco 4.4 3.1 1.9 3.2 4.8 4.6 31.2 0.5
4 Mookie Betts 4.3 3.9 0.3 3.1 5 4.7 30.7 0.5
5 Ha-Seong Kim 4.2 2.3 2.2 3.1 4.8 4.7 30.5 0.5
6 Corey Seager 4 3.6 0.7 3.2 5 4.6 32.2 0.6
7 Corbin Carroll 3.9 3.8 -0.1 2.8 5 4.7 28.1 0.5
Fernando Tatis Jr. 3.9 2.5 1.2 3 4.9 4.7 29.2 0.5
As a hitter he is 2nd to Acuna Jr..
I’m not convinced i want to give up our prospects or pay $500-600M but no way anyone can aggue that right now he is the most valuable player in baseball. If we are talking rental we get the 2nd best hitter, and a top 10 pitcher at the same time. Would we give up 3 prospects for Acuna Jr AND Stroman…Ah Yes!
Yogi must of stole a bad picnic basket full of spoiled food, thinking Logan Webb could be a better hitter then Ohtani who has more HR’s(112 )the last 3 years other then Judge
It’s hyperbole. You need to use a grain or two of salt on your food if you’re eating here.
Webb is absolutely a more valuable starter who will almost certainly pitch longer.
In 2021, Webb got an RBI for every 6.57 ABs
Last year, Ohtani got an RBI every 7.01 ABs
I’d pass on any rentals except for middle IF bat and keep prospects.
I think James is right, Soto would be better long range target as FA.
Prospects are just that Prospects until they prove it in the Show.
Ohtani doesn’t need to prove Jack shit he’s all world the best in the game.
Mrsprtdude LOL on your McEnroe crack towards Yogi:”You can’t be Serious!”
Like Bailey? He was in High A ball this time year ago. Look where he is now.
You have to get him signed to an agreement before you give up anyone. Otherwise he can go wherever he wants and you’ve lost him and whomever you traded for 2 months.
Did I read Giants have funky stats in first part of game but are great last 3 innings?
One hit through 4 tonight, 2 last night off Hill before they got going.
This may be the worst umpires report card of the year.
Naw. The guy is sloppy though.
Just based on the sheer number outside the box. That last pitch to Yaz. Ridiculous.
It was.
Hard pass on Ohtani. Soto is cheaper.
Something else too: OK Ohtani gets Giants into playoffs, fine. along with 11 other teams. Last season 3 teams in NL won 100 games, including Dogs who won 111. None of above even made it to NLCS, let alone got to the WS, nor of course won it.
The regular season’s become very devalued in professional sports, except maybe football…
The Giants and Dodger games are Tyler and Taylor Rogers
Nice evasion Conforto. Nice AB too.
Holy shit how did pirates blow that one? Missed the tag and Joc (!) beats throw to plate?
Just Defense!
Score a run here so Doval can drill someone
Nice.
Victory! Gaining on the Snakes.
I think Doval changed gloves over the break.
Very unsuperstitious for a ballplayer…
Victory again,Conforto huge hit,Yaz bomb, pitching solid..Giants doing what they need to do beat a bottom feeder and taking the series let’s get the Sweep 🧹now
Yeah Loo that glove looks like cheap plastic and the color is baby poop.Think that company is called Marrucci are something close,Gausman use to wear a cool color one and it was larger as well.. I’m still particular growing up with Wilson and Rawlings..
Oy, Mets trailing dogs 2-1 bottom 8, have first and third 0 out.
1 pitch IF pop up, 3 pitch K followed by another K. pfftt
Goddamn Mets, 1st & 3rd no out and can’t score tying run in 8th. Plus they gave up go-ahead run when they botched what should’ve been an inning-ending DP.
Oh no, Mets can’t catch IF pop up and Dogs get insurance run.
And another one on line drive base hit by Martinez. 4-1 Dogs top 9.
Fuckin’ A, 3B Baty misplays a pop-up for another run.
Did he even get glove on it? Dang Krukow makes fun of pop up dance at the O but that was unreal.
Looked like it didn’t, but it did hit his face on the bounce.
5-1 now, all 3 in 9th off our old buddy Leone who has given up 3 singles and double. Wondered if this guy could pitch in NY. Case closed.
Hartwig was the Mets reliever.
Ah Leone only came in to replace him, thanks.
Go Giants!!