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Can We Beat The Worst Team In The League?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 25, 2023

It has to this. The Giants need to beat the A’s, handily, to prove to Farhan that this flawed team he cobbled together is worthy of an add-on or two at the trade deadline next Tuesday. Speaking of “cobbling” something together, there’s no better time than now to see if Cobb can reset the direction of his season. If he can’t wipe out Oakland then I fear it’s all downhill for him the rest of this year. Same for SF.

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:02 am

    giants probably lucky to be still in thick of it, as other WC teams also losing. AZ has lost 5 straight and blew 6-5 lead in 9th at home as Cards scored 5 off pen. Phils and Reds lost as well.
    Pads lost 8-4 at home to Pirates. Lead off hitter Ha Seong Kim, hot of late, hit his 14th HR of season…a number that would lead Giants. Huh?

    dunno what Z will be up to but as pointed out by others, almost everyone that wants to win is in market for pitching. That would include AZ SD and LA, plus Cincy in NL. Texas pitching got hammered over weekend by Dodgers, and lost to Stros 10-9 last night.

  2. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:43 am

    Oh, as this team has proven, no loss is unovercomaeable and no winning streak cannot be tempered by a let-down. Not sure why this team is so streaky but this is us.

    We need pitching and Estrada back.

  3. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:07 am

    Just saw a tweet sending Bo Bichette to the Giants. I don’t trust that account though. Crazy idea. Also a tweet putting Alex Wood on the block. It’s that time of year.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:28 am

      Bichette’s one of their top hitters though he is in 0-19 slump. Still, seems unlikely. Wish SF would trade Wood anywhere. Complained about being yanked early then not starting. Once back in rotation had 2 awful starts. Away!

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:30 am

        he’s also impossible to watch pitch. I hate his motion. I also can’t stand Harman’s waggly club bullshit before swinging. It’s awful.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:38 am

        Agreed. that follow through bugs me. Looks like he’s about to fall over.

      • Winder's avatar Winder said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:41 am

        Yeah, it’s time for Wood to go. Whining about things in baseball is not good. And, it certainly isn’t good for team moral.

  4. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2023 at 1:21 pm

    Giants could dumpWood Stripling,Manaea,Disco are just throw ins if any team is desperate are delusional enough to add one in part of a deadline deal.Winn&Beck and even Whisenhut for a lefty could be easily better for now as the long relievers/ spot starter/openers..

  5. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 1:31 pm

    Whisenhunt for a scrub reliever is a no-go.

  6. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    Sabes had good luck with some under radar deadline moves. Bowker (and Joe Martinez) was traded for Javier Lopez, who had been released by 3 different teams before winding up with Pirates.
    Nate the less than great (who hit 22 doubles/9 HRs .750 OPS part time in 2011) was dealt to Phils for Pence in 2012. giants were Pence’s 3rd team.
    Nate was out of ML baseball after 2014.

    Under radar moves to add some hitting/useful pen guys that don’t cost much can have impact going forward.

  7. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 2:35 pm

    Brock Purdy cleared to practice with “no restrictions” per Kyle Shanahan.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 25, 2023 at 4:14 pm

      Seems early for “no restrictions”…

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 6:39 pm

        Well, they are gonna limit his throwing to 2 days in a row with a break.

  8. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on July 25, 2023 at 3:13 pm

    There was some talk about Farhan being interested in adding a middle infielder. Any Flap thoughts on taking a gamble on Tim Anderson? He has under performed for the last season and half but that means they can’t be demanding high end prospects. Only due $14 mill next year with $1 mill buyout. Worth a gamble to me. Let Luciano progress in a full AAA season.

  9. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    Steve Young has accepted a job at Menlo College as an assistant coach under John Paye and others (former 49er and Menlo College) to help coach girls flag football program…

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 4:08 pm

      John Paye’s sister Kate is lead assistant to Van Derveer at Stanford, and has been for long time.
      At timeouts she’s the one w board in her hands drawing stuff up.

    • Winder's avatar Winder said, on July 25, 2023 at 4:22 pm

      I think I read where his daughters go there also so it’s probably more like a fun thing for him to do. I wonder how competitive it will be. I know that girls softball is really competitive.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 5:02 pm

        The gig is at Menlo School, private HS there off El Camino. They play b-ball etc. in private school league that is step down from WCAL of Mitty St. Francis SI SC Cathedral yada yada. Lot of state championships and D1 players for girls out that league, v-ball b-ball soccer softball… this sounds like good fun opp beyond field hockey once it gets going. Lacrosse still not big here.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:38 pm

        I had 5-6 friends go there and none of them graduated cuz they got tossed for smoking pot.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:46 pm

        Unc, girls b-ball won State before Pandemic, D II maybe. One of stars came through our youth group and got her pic in Chron. Playing ball at Yale now, nice family.

  10. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    1B LaMonte Wade L
    CF Luis Matos R
    3B J.D. Davis R
    LF Joc Pederson L
    DH W. Flores R
    C P. Bailey S
    2B Brett Wisely L
    RF A. Slater R
    SS C. Schmitt R

    P Alex Cobb R

  11. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    fwiw Verlander shutting out Yanks on 2 hits through 6.
    Marlins and Phils both losing.

  12. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:16 pm

    GMC is using “We Will Rock You.”

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:17 pm

      On a related note: the Giants are not rocking anyone lately.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:08 pm

      There was a row of sizable granite boulders on a side path at Lego Land that played We Will Rock You when people walked by. At least it was there 25years ago. It startled little kids but parents laughed.

  13. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:27 pm

    I have Schmitt at 11 for last 100…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:43 pm

      2 hits in the last 3 games is a vast improvement.

  14. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:57 pm

    Bases loaded no out.
    Any guesses?

  15. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 25, 2023 at 7:57 pm

    It’s a lead!

  16. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    One whole run…

  17. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    The multiple-run inning is still elusive.

  18. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:17 pm

    Senor Warning Track strikes again…

  19. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:21 pm

  20. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Has anyone here ever had a SpeeDee oil change?

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:52 pm

      I have not.

  21. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    No, but Meinekie fucked up my daughter’s car.

  22. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    When a m0veable object meets a resistable force.

  23. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    Singing about shitting in a box to “I Did it My Way.”

    Should be “My Name is Mud”.

  24. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    Missed it-did Unite the Bay protest thing come off at all? Saw guy with plaque or something in stands.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:53 pm

      It was loud.

  25. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    OK. One risp.

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:57 pm

      Might be the first one in a week.

  26. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    Hey now! Doval hasn’t pitched in a week with this losing streak. Hope he hits the ground running

  27. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:06 pm

    Victory!

  28. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    Got em!

  29. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:09 pm

  30. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:10 pm

    Ground running just fine for Doval striking out the side!
    Yaz clutch RBI ,Cobb definitely pitches awesome at home compared to road, a much needed win to snap the losing streak ..Victory anyway is a good thing!!

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:12 pm

  31. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:12 pm

    Hey! A win!

  32. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 25, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    Haven’t seen Clint in too long

  33. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:07 pm

    Bases clearing 3 run double for Jay top 9 extends lead to 7-3 in LA.
    Dogs pen guy Justin Bruihl got 1 out, walked 2 gave up single to Chapman before PH Danny Jansen drove ball over Chris Taylor’s head in LF.

  34. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    Jays playing like little leaguers. Just gave up 3rd infield single and let 2 runs score on the last one to tie it up. Fuck

  35. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    Not sure who there closer is but this one is sucking!

  36. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:23 pm

    Scored 4 runs with only singles. Grr

  37. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    Jays couldn’t use their closer tonight so they had to use Tomato Can Jones and he sweated a lot and was lousy.

  38. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:25 pm

    Chapman flubbed a ball. Like the Dodgers need extra breaks.

  39. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:28 pm

    3rd base coach challenges Betts with one out. Stupid.

  40. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    There’s a reason why the Blue Jays never go anywhere.

  41. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:38 pm

    How did they score 2 on an infield single. Brainfart by 1b?

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:41 pm

      Second baseman. The ball was deflected by the first baseman, 2b picked up the ball and didn’t look at Smith rounding third. He was looking at some other base. A stupid mistake.

  42. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:38 pm

    The Blue Jays should just end their season now and go away.

  43. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:46 pm

    Dodgers’ rookie gets on base 5 times tonight, including a walk-off HR. They’ve been doing this for at least 10 years now.
    Has any team in major league history had as productive of a 10 year stretch of drafting? Like ever? It can’t all be skill. There has to be some sheer chance involved. It’s an insane hot streak. We’re just fortunate only the 1 World Series title in that stretch so far. They could have won a lot more.

  44. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:47 pm

    I wasn’t optimistic we would catch LA anyway but damn i hate that win.

  45. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:52 pm

    The Jays did every stupid thing they could to lose that game at the end. Epic choke.
    Pro players can choke. Like the Falcons blowing the 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl. It became clear the Falcons were just going to keep choking.

  46. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    The Dodgers drafted Outman in the 7th round, out of Cal. St. Sacramento.
    7th round, of course. Why not.

  47. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:01 pm

    Our rookies have cooled off immensely. We need them to reignite somehow, and shake off the lingering ghost of Bowker who haunts all of our rookies for the past 10 years.

  48. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:27 pm

    We need the help of Superman:

  49. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:35 pm

    Say what?!
    “The Giants are planning to call up shortstop Marco Luciano after just six games in Triple-A, sources told NBC Sports Bay Area. If he plays Wednesday night against the A’s, Luciano will become the second 21-year-old to debut this season, joining Luis Matos.”

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:39 pm

      Good!
      I’m so sick of these guys getting babied for years.
      Just bring em up.
      Baseball is baseball…

  50. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    River Cats are in New Mexico tonight.
    Luciano hit an HR tonight. Maybe that seals the deal.

  51. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 25, 2023 at 11:59 pm

    Sounds for sure:
    “The SF Giants are making a major move to try and add some energy to their scuffling big-league offense. According to a report by Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area, the Giants are calling up shortstop Marco Luciano (Giants #3 Prospect) from Triple-A Sacramento and will make his big-league debut on Wednesday against the Oakland Athletics.”

    • Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:12 am

      Well that was quick…as I reported, he seems ready physically to play short as I saw at AA in Harrisburg. He was more built physically than I had expected in the upper body and seems like legit SS. Fingers crossed his bay sticks in the big leagues. I think if Matos had not been given a shot and showed he is big league material, not sure they would have brought Luciano up…

  52. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 7:28 am

    “Might be first one in a week” MacDog at 8:57.
    Mac w facts! per Baggs in TA:
    “It was the Giants first hit with runners in scoring position in 29 at bats spread over 6 losses.”

  53. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:11 am

    Are they sending Schmitt down? Or Villar?

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:34 am

      Gotta be Villar. Craw should be OK to return Friday, so see what happens then btw Wisely/Schmitt.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:43 am

        Well, that’ll be Wisely. Schmitt is getting a lot of rope. But he’s not even generating loud outs at this point.

  54. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:36 am

    whatinell happened to J. D.? Sure misses lot of swings.

  55. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:40 am

    “Susan Slusser
    @susanslusser
    I’ve had it confirmed that Marco Luciano will be called up today.
    7:50 AM · Jul 26, 2023”

  56. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:42 am

    Anyone not named Joc or Wilbur is on the skids.

  57. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 26, 2023 at 8:55 am

    When he’s not striking out.

  58. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 26, 2023 at 9:22 am

    Villar is going down to Sac per KNBR…

  59. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 26, 2023 at 9:30 am

    Looks like the Giants are going to leadoff Luciano today i like it,get the kid as many AB’s and see better pitches instead of hitting 8-9..

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 26, 2023 at 2:54 pm

      Worked out well for Rikkert Faneyte…

  60. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 9:43 am

    Very cool. Can’t wait to see the kid.

  61. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 26, 2023 at 10:15 am

    Yes! Something to get excited about tonight!

  62. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 26, 2023 at 10:36 am

    Why not try Luciano?
    I like trying out these young guys. Young is relative. He’s been in pro ball for 5 years or so. If he strikes out a lot, at least he will be a new guy whiffing it…

  63. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 26, 2023 at 10:39 am

    Luciano has been in pro ball for 5 years or so.
    So, his being “young” is relative.
    I’m totally for bringing him up. Let’s see where he is.
    If he strikes out a ton, at least he’s a new face doing that…

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 26, 2023 at 11:35 am

      I think he was 16 when we got him, but still 21 for a major leaguer seems young to me.

      • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 26, 2023 at 11:37 am

        I’d imagine this will be the first time in a long while that we’ve had two 21 year olds start a game together. Assuming they both start.

  64. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 26, 2023 at 10:42 am

    OK, wordpress is screwing with me.

  65. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 11:01 am

    Maybe after watching Giants strain last night vs. AAA’s pitching, Z figures Luciano will feel right at home and pounding them tonight. Kinda funny about Giants inability to hit any ball lately as hard as Luciano did just last night.
    Also gotta think Z didn’t like SS market for one reason or another. The Hot Kid and the savvy vet showing him the ropes script rest of the way. Schmitt backs up 3b and covers 2b for Estrada once he gets back. Wisely has hit well in minors and might do so at ML level by next season now that he has idea of what to expect.

  66. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 26, 2023 at 11:16 am

    They better not be bringing Luciano up to “Showcase” him before the trade deadline are I will be pissed 😡 off.Hey it’s the useless A’s they should of cleared a roster move and brought up Carson Wishenhut to start instead of malcontent broken Wood..

  67. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 12:25 pm

    Little league triple play.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 1:58 pm

      It’s got to be the unis!

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 2:24 pm

        lulz. those are hideous.

  68. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 26, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    That was the dumbest base running I’ve ever seen and to turn it into a Triple Play unbelievable! Players and coaches should be flogged in those hideous uni’s as well..

  69. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 26, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    The Blue Jays bounced back from their epic meltdown last night and defeated the Dodgers today. They cut down on the stupidity.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 4:27 pm

      Hey now. Just need the Cards to come through.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 4:46 pm

        And they did 11-7. AZ needs pitching desperately. Like lot of teams, Dodgers included. Reds lost again to MIL 3-0.

  70. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 26, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    NL is so bizarro. Braves and then everyone else. LA has only 2-3-4 more Ws than 6 other teams. Cubs have as many Ws as Padres (who lost again at home to Pirates) and 2 more than Mets.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 6:07 pm

      And I thought it was Pete Rozelle who was so thrilled about parity.

  71. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 26, 2023 at 6:06 pm

    Huh. The Angels pulled Ohtani off the trade block and will make the playoff push with him through the season.

    Interesting. They must think they have a shot at backing up the Brinks truck.

    One BILLION dollars!!!

  72. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 26, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    Amazon is using “Always Something There To Remind Me” by Naked Eyes, from the 1980s.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 26, 2023 at 6:35 pm

      Old Burt Bacharach song.

  73. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 26, 2023 at 6:57 pm

    Fog rolls in and k and k don’t know how to describe it. Look at those creamsicle unis.

  74. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 26, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    JD oppo bimb!

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 26, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      Bomb!

  75. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 26, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    JD needed that.
    So did the team…


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