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July 28th!!!!!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 28, 2023

Blog title today is an inside joke with someone…….

Anyway, MLBtraderumors is saying the Giants are interested in Paul DeJong. He’s most notiable for hitting a home run last summer to vault me into first place in the $4 tourney that landed me 4k. So I will have a softspot should we pick him up. He’s got power but also a lot of holes in his game.

Outside of that, we need another starting pitcher desperately. Rental preferred.

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  1. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:30 am

    If Kyle Hendricks was on the market that would be possibly interesting. Has a $16 mill option for next year but with just a $1.5 mill buyout. He has a 3.45 era for the year and a very healthy 1.04 WHIP. But only 70 innings pitched. Worth the flier. Would not expect they would need a major prospect in return.

    No to Lynn and Corbin is going to make a ridiculous $35 mill next year. What a moronic contract from the Gnats…

    • Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:33 am

      Of course Snell is likely available and a free agent next year but can’t see them trading him in division or wanting too much in prospects, and same for Soto…

  2. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:33 am

    Sometimes you can be too close to a situation to look at it objectively.
    Believe me, you’re sick of Wordle.
    Everything about it insidiously destroys your life.
    You’ve played it too many times to move your average very much one way or the other.
    It’s no fun and teaches you nothing except how to accept being teased.
    Get out while you can.
    You’ll feel like you quit smoking 2 packs a day…

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:53 am

      so i have like 4 different groups of friends that play and we compete for $. It takes like 3 seconds to send my puzzle graph to all 4 groups. It takes me about 5 minutes to crack the puzzle. I got the time.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:55 am

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:52 am

      If you see my twitter account, I get Wordle in 1 yesterday

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:37 am

    Brisbee today in TA says Giants should sign Bellinger, rental hitter having great bounce back year with Cubs, who might not be selling. Never liked him but he has power, plays good OF and isn’t split defined hitter like Slater or Yaz. Also makes point it would bug hell out of Dogs fans to see both Joc and him in Giants starting lineup.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:54 am

      no left handed hitters. Especially a guy like Belly who i think is playing over his head this year.

  4. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:54 am

    I thought there were giants capable of lot more HR power than they have shown. Davis hit 6 HRs in April, and has 7 total in 3 months since. Conforto hit 7 in May and had 11 by then. He has 2 since! OPS in June and July in low .600s. What happened to both these guys that looked like they had 30 HR potential? Belt’s 29 in 2021 still best ever post Bonds.

    Joc hit 23 last year in 380 ABs. he has 10 in 200 ABs so far.
    blows me away Padres skinny Korean middle IF Ha Seong Kim has 14, more than any giant.

    • Dj's avatar Dj said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:57 am

      You’re right Willie.
      A much better analysis than Brisbee…

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:01 am

      Did MLB change the ball again? We were hitting dingers left and right when the live ball was in play.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:20 am

        I think there’s all different kinds of balls out there and nobody’s minding the store…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:20 am

        mm wouldn’t put it past them. There were rash of high scoring games, like that one day of almost 200 runs scored. I’d bet the Bellinger numbers reflect juiced ball too.

  5. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:22 am

    The Giants seem to be striking out more than earlier this season.
    Wade and Davis especially.

  6. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:03 am

    Randy Meisner a founding member of the Eagles has died at the age of 77. Great harmonies,guitar work..RIP Randy

    I could be in on Delong since we really don’t know if Crawford will hold up down the stretch and he adds RH power they desperately could use even if he has struggled with consistently making contact with a high K rate.( hey fits right in with that) but I would want a 2 player deal with either SP Montgomery 1st choice are Flaherty included..

    If they go a smaller deal Orioles infielder Ramon Urias is a good player and plays all infield positions and has won a GG at 3rd he just adds a lot of flexibility that Z always covets..

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:41 am

      i don’t think it’s a stretch to say the Eagles are one of the most overrrated rock bands of all time. I know that’s gonna get some blowback here. But that’s how I feel.

  7. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:40 am

    btw, mlbtraderumors is saying the Giants are interested in DeJong and Nicky Lopez. Lopez is awful and can’t hit anything. He’d be our worst hitter instantly. Why would we trade for that? DeJong has holes but he can hit bombs something we need badly right now

  8. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 11:11 am

    “No one with any depth likes the Eagles” I nearly spit my coffee out on that one. That’s some funny shit, Xoot. Hotel California is a decent album. They actually had an edge on that and didn’t rely on the pablum (gee, I have SO MANY girlfriends) of the earlier albums. Even the Long Run was pretty shitty, except for Those Shoes (!!) by Walsh. After that, I don’t even know what they did.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 11:43 am

      Actually I said I was sure that Jeff Bridges does not love the Eagles, becz no one with any depth does. But not let’s be be splitting hairs over such trivial matters. It’s opinion vs fact. Then I found him quoted as saying that he doesn’t hate the Eagles like the Dude hates them. Now that was some skillful shade.

      “I hate the fucking Eagles, man.”

      My taste in LA country rock tends toward Dillard & Clark, the Flying Burrito Bros., etc. Linda Ronstadt sounded great in front of the Eagles when they were her backup band, but of course she adds unfathomable depth to any arrangement.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 11:55 am

        Ahhhh, Gram Parsons . . . he and Townes Van Zandt sailed freely nowhere near the spotlight. Even with Parsons’ connection to the Stones.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 12:17 pm
      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 12:23 pm

        Oh I had that LP of hers with “I still miss someone”, brown cover she’s in big hoop earrings. Really enjoyable.

  9. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 11:11 am

    Kiss is, was, and will be the most overrated band in history. Not sure if you are a fan, DJ. I picture you a more Velvet Underground guy.

  10. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 11:52 am

    And as much as I loved The Warriors movie, In the City was a lame song to use for it.

    Almost as bad as the Eagles version of Heavy Metal for that movie.

  11. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 28, 2023 at 12:26 pm

    I see the eagles more as a country band which makes them more tolerable because I hate country and I would like to have a reason for not liking them

  12. Winder's avatar Winder said, on July 28, 2023 at 12:54 pm

    Just like when Crosby, Stills, and Nash first came out the only people that really liked em were women. That changes the Young joined em. The Eagles were kinda like that also, real easy-listening. They eventually grew on me but at first I didn’t think much about em.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 1:47 pm

      Yes plus Young they became different group. And it was Young who wrote “4 Dead in Ohio.”
      Buffalo Springfield w Stills and Young were cool, some classics.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 1:50 pm

        I was in draft lottery while in JC at deAnza, with I think #51 and went to Oakland Induction center, trip of a place. Avoided it though, legally, with some help and advice.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:16 pm

        I was convinced when I was a kid that I would die in Viet Nam. Didn’t turn 18 till 1979 tho. Then again when I was in 2nd grade I questioned the priests in my Catholic school that if we were all created equal in the eyes of God, why did they segregate against blacks and hispanics? Got called to the office and got detention that day. I’m with Sinead.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:56 pm

        First Viet Nam war confrontation with police tac squad occured in Santa Cruz when we lined up to prevent the federal busses from leaving the courthouse parking lot to head to the Oakland induction center. Cop aiming his club at my head missed because I was bending down to help a friend who’d been brained by his attacker. Got him out of the melee and laid him down. For months afterward he transposed letters when he typed his class essays. The busses went to Oakland, of course. My lottery number was 45. 2S deferment saved my ass.

    • Winder's avatar Winder said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:16 pm

      yup, I was in the lottery also.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 1:31 pm

    Yep. The only thing I dug from CSN was Teach your Children and Jerry’s excellent pedal steel work.

  14. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 1:47 pm

    No problem with country as long as it sounds like this.

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:31 pm

      Today in my car, I was listening to the last Dr. John CD, the new one from Taj and Ry Cooder, and a live bootleg of James Booker. I also had some Jerry Jeff Walker on. Love me some Jerry Jeff. It’s Up Against the Wall Redneck Mother.

      • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:47 pm

        I still listen to a lot of Western Swing and Bluegrass, loved The Dusty Chaps (Tucson band) when they were around. Some Waylon, George Jones, Lefty Frizzell and yeah, some Hank from time to time.

      • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:48 pm

        When the Eagles first started, they were Linda Ronstadt’s backup band, gotta give em credit for that.

  15. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 28, 2023 at 2:55 pm

    Oh yeah I can’t forget Emmylou Harris, can’t forget that voice.

  16. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 3:00 pm

    Notorious Cherry Bombs were a great country super group. Big hit was It’s Hard to Kiss the Lips at Night that Chew Your Ass Out All Day Long.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 3:05 pm

      Ha what a great line. Nobody does Slice of Wry like country music.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 3:15 pm

        Vince Gill, iirc. Rodney Crowell was the other famous songwriter in the band. Crowell and his wife Roseanne Cash did some fine work together, while they were together.

  17. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 4:44 pm

    The Eagles released a lot of much beloved singles, and one great album, Hotel California.
    It makes sense that their biggest selling album was their Greatest Hits.
    Those songs are the soundtrack to the lives of a lot of people at that time. It was the era of 8-track tapes that played non-stop. People took road trips, popped in their Eagles Greatest Hits 8-track tape, and sang along to those songs. It brought a lot of happiness to people. In the same way that ABBA did.
    I can be as snobby about music as anyone, but we all have guilty pleasures in the music we like.

  18. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    Taylor Swift concerts this weekend at the 49ers stadium dominate the news around here. People without tickets will not be allowed in the parking lot or on surrounding public streets. Wtf is this woman? I’m sure I’ve never heard her music.

  19. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    According to Wikipedia, the Eagles Greatest Hits, 1971-1975, has sold 38 million copies in the U.S. That’s phenomenal.
    Clearly those songs connect with a lot of people.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 4:57 pm

      The Hotel California album has sold 26 million copies in the U.S.

  20. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    The Taylor Swift songs I’ve heard are techno-dance stuff. Not a favorite genre of mine.

  21. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    Del Mar back in action.
    Saw news about jockey Abel Cedillo, out of hospital and resting at home per agent. Out 4-6 weeks with fractured bone in neck.
    Some controversy according to those commenting on TDN story: Horse clipped heels couple strides out of the starting gate and threw him, was quickly caught and walked off the track. Race went on instead of being stopped and Cedillo was moved by track personnel, NOT medical personnel or Ambulance crew before being taken by ambulance to Scripps Hospital. hmmnn

  22. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 5:21 pm

    Yeah, commecial suck-sess as a gauge — now that’s deep.

    Back in the 80s, on my way through West Berkeley to the Oakland RR yard one mid-afternoon, I stopped at Juan’s Place, a Mexican restaurant across the street from Fantasy Studios. Four or five young hipsters drinking beer at a table were the only other patrons. They seemed to be having a business discussion — either trying to decide whether to sign with Fantasy Reccords or trying to decide if they’d made a mistake by signing. One guy said, “Yeah, yeah, we all know the nightmare stories about Creedence.” “What stories?” said the only woman at the table. “Creedence never had a number one hit,” said a third guy, “because Saul Zaentz refused to pay any sort of promotional fees. He considered it all payola.”

    The copyright litigation between John Fogerty and Zaentz/Fantasy is legendary among lawyers and musicians alike. Fogerty hated that man. His attorney fees claim went all the way to the US SCt. Fogerty won.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:07 pm

      I think we liberals have an issue sometimes where we profess our concern for the average blue collar person in society, but we don’t like a lot of the culture of the average blue collar person. And we wonder why we have trouble connecting with them. In Barbara Kingsolver’s latest novel Demon Copperhead, the rural Appalachian characters in poverty feel like liberals look down on them and laugh at them. And then they keep voting Republican, much to the liberals’ frustration.
      Sports are one of the few areas where the divides can be bridged anymore.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:11 pm

        One of the ironies is that middle and upper class liberals are the ones more likely to read a Kingsolver novel, or listen to folk music about the hard scrabble life in Appalachia.

      • @'s avatar @ said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:30 pm

        I think the biggest problem in the world is greed. Even education doesn’t bridge that.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:37 pm

      Liberals despicably collaborate with the right wing capital class. So Im not sure what you’re getting at. I mean, you ‘re not suggesting that the 58,000 young women packing Taylor Swift’s concerts tonight and tomorrow night here and around the country hereafter, spending thousands of dollars each on tickets and merch, are blue collar, are you? They’re not. Blue collar culture is not responsible for high dollar value sales of anything (although cheap bad drugs are popular). But it is very familiar and comfortable to me. I’m mainly hillbilly myself. I spent a couple of decades working blue collar jobs before I became a corporate lawyer. I still visit KY. Commercial suck-sess don’t impress me.

      Never liked Kingsolver. The new novel sounds like tourist fare:oh, see the humorously tragic hillbillies. How horribly entertaining. Try CE Morgan, The Sport of Kings or, simpler, All the Living.

      • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:10 pm

        Bourgeoisie of the World Unite!! You have nothing to lose but the chains of the Nazi working classes!!

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:15 pm

        I think the boujies are pretty well united.

      • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:23 pm

        Maybe not as tightly as the ignorant fascist trash.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:49 pm

        Exterminate all the brutes.

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:48 pm
      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:13 pm

        Yeah, Fogerty did ok in the end. For a while I rented a house in El Cerrito, just north of Berkeley. I’d walk to and from BART past the high school, with its hillside view of the GG bridge and the SF skyline, and think of those guys growing up there. Born on the Bayou my ass. But man what was it five number two hits in a year or something? And a lot of the stuff was really good.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:21 pm

        The kicker was when Fogerty was sued for sounding too much like Creedence.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:44 pm

        That was the (c) litigation. Zaentz owned the rights to Run through the Jungle and sued over Old Man Down the Road. Fogerty defeated the expensive lawsuit and asked for full attorney fees under the (c) statute’s unusual fee provision. Zaentz’s lawyers argued that the statute was designed to give (c) holder plaintiffs access to the courts so prevailing defendants didn’t deserve attorney fee awards unless the original claims were “frivolous.” US SCt disagreed. Prevailing party means prevailing party. Total victory for Fogerty.

  23. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:20 pm

    I have no doubt that the NFL games on Thanksgiving help a lot of families get through the day with peace in the family.
    People can all agree on how terrible the Lions are. And how much they want Dallas to lose.

  24. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    One of the NBA players is going to make $60 million this season. That’s astounding.

  25. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    On the pregame show, they said the Red Sox are averaging 6 runs a game in July. Maybe the ballpark will help slow that down.

  26. PaulinAsia Banh Bao's avatar PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:04 pm

    Ah, wouldn’t it be such good clean fun to see a Flap circle group book club cum band/album club, sitting around disagreeing while knitting doilies and doing shots of Makers….

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:09 pm

      I’ve been listening to an audiobook of Walter Mosley’s Easy Rawlins series. Any Flappers fans of that series?

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:20 pm

        Yeah.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:30 pm

        Good stuff. He has another series set in NYC, Leonid McGill I think. little grittier.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:33 pm

        Made at least one of those into movie. Iirc, Don Cheadle played “Mouse”.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:34 pm

        Anyone read The Extraordinary Life of Sam Hell?

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:35 pm

        devil in blue dress.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:37 pm

        Chuck, I hadn’t heard of it.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:09 pm

        Guy I went to HS with wrote it. Saw him at my 30th reunion and he decided to get into writing books after being a journalist and a lawyer. He has like 10 best sellers. Crazy.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:10 pm

        Murder mystery like everyone else but I heard that one is good.

  27. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:26 pm

    What’s crazy is I saw John Fogerty playing at a Mountain Mike’s in Palo Alto on some Thursday night after Creedence had disbanded and he was without a band or deal. Musta been around 78 or 79. Him on a an acoustic. The place was half full. I was blown away.

  28. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:30 pm

    Stay hot Wilmet!

  29. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:31 pm

    The Sox pitcher has a funky little double-clutch in his delivery.

  30. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:32 pm

    Nice 2″ dribbler there.

  31. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:34 pm

    Oh boy. Webb serving meatballs tonight.

  32. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    Hasn’t the mandatory netting made ball dudes and anything else in that chair obselete?

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:39 pm

      Even security.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:40 pm

      They occasionally get a foul ball so the players don’t have to get it.

  33. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:41 pm

    Epic fail by a Ball Dude.

  34. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:46 pm

    Good grief, the strike outs.

  35. James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    They are making this guy look unhittable. Three embarrassing whiffs by Conforto, Bailey, and Matos.

  36. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:50 pm

    Bailey is the MAN!!!! Hell of a play by Lucky as well. Face tag!

  37. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:51 pm

    In your face from Luciano. Big time style points.

  38. James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    If the throw had been anywhere near the bag, he would have been out, too. Amazing.

  39. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:08 pm

    Man I had no idea Devers has 25HR’s and 76 RBI’s and even Old man Turner with 16HR’s and 66RBI’s and leads the team in runs scored?

  40. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:13 pm

    At least Webb got through 2 innings tonight.

  41. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    WTF is Kruk talking about. If the Giants are up, who’s gonna throw the HR ball back? And don’t blame that shit on Matos.

    Lotsa fat pitches from Webb tonight.

  42. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    Red Sox’s first 6 hitters in the Lu tonight are all over .800 plus in OPS that’s quite impressive..
    And this kid Casas just goes yard with his 16th bomb 💣 Damm this team has weapons..

  43. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Stop helping this guy.
    Had Matos not fouled off ball 3 and 4 he’d have had BB on ball 5, before the K.

    • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:30 pm

      I wonder if he’s thrown 5 consecutive shutout innings before in his career.

  44. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    He’s been a little pedestrian…

  45. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    Alright Marco, 1st hit and 1st run!

  46. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:43 pm

    Kuip didn’t read that one very well…

  47. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    James… actually Crawford has he threw 6 shutout innings with 9 strikeouts against the Cubs in Chicago on July 16..

    • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:52 pm

      Sometimes I’m too annoyed to look it up …

  48. PaulinAsia Banh Bao's avatar PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:47 pm

    Pleasantly surprised to see an actual upgrade to GameDay (at least I’m just now seeing it for the first time) for us game-access-challenged — instant thumbnail videos for each hit. Nice to occasionally see some progress in the “makes sense” department…

    • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:55 pm

      That’s pretty cool. I was really happy when they started to provide a record of each pitch in an AB.

      • PaulinAsia Banh Bao's avatar PaulinAsia Banh Bao said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:05 pm

        Yeah, that’s kind of an important thing to include….

  49. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    Hmmm where have we seen this before ?
    Mike Tauchman game saving catch over the wall in CF on the last play with a Cardinal on base to preserve the Cubs 3-2 win.7 wins in a row maybe the Cubs aren’t sellers anymore..

  50. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:05 pm

    Oh fuck this ump. Luciano got hosed.

  51. James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:06 pm

    “Pitcher’s strike” … no, a mistake by the umpire, two of them in that AB.

  52. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:06 pm

    How the fuck is .175 Wisely allowed to hit in that spot? Pinch-hit for him instead of Matos.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:20 pm

      Yep. My thought exactly. This team is back to striking out at an alarming rate.

  53. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    Electronic balls and strikes please.
    The tennis world ponders why baseball puts up with this nonsense.

  54. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:09 pm

    Freaking ump screwed Luciano bigtime !
    But it’s freaking Wisely that needs to go down, he can’t hit even if he had a 4ft wide bat!!
    Krukow understatement of the year. A big moment for Wisely NOT!!

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:13 pm

      Stepped out for a sec and Flemms was really disappointed in Wisely AB.
      DeJong would fit.

  55. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:10 pm

    And yeah, the shitty ump gave Luciano no chance.

  56. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    Krukow tries justify two blown calls by explaining that the ump established the zone for the AB by making the first mistake? Asshole. With a runner on third both of those bad calls were significant.

  57. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:16 pm

    Joc bomb, there’s hope!

  58. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:21 pm

    They can’t bring up the robo ump fast enough. These last 3 weeks have been flat awful. These fucking guys have been wrong about 20% of the time.

  59. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    Ooooooooh how nice would it be to smoke Jansen?

  60. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:30 pm

    Bass Baldy’s boy Duvall’s put together a pretty good career and had some big years…

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:39 pm

      Lisle, now that guy is avant-garde.

      • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:47 pm

        He’s probably better at what he does for a living than anybody else who’s posted on the Flap.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:54 pm

        I liked him.

      • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:58 pm

        And he’s undoubtedly a better bass player than Randy Meissner was!

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:02 pm

        Randy was a singer, too. The Eagles were as much a vocal band as anything else.

      • James's avatar James said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:14 pm

        Yes, I know he sang. Most rock bass players don’t have the chops to play with Cecil Taylor.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:31 pm

        Yeah, playing on tour with Cecil Taylor is an accomplishment that says a lot. Lisle’s own work was delightful. During a dull game one night, he described a show that started with him inside his bass bag snaking on the boards to the center of the stage. He stopped, unzipped, and rose out of the bag as his big double bass descended slowly on a wire to his waiting arms. Then he and his band began to play. Slowly, at first, I assume.

  61. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:30 pm

    Giants used a first round pick on Arroyo, which is sad.

  62. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 28, 2023 at 9:37 pm

    Damn. Webb needs 4 runs this year.

    Remember that old stat we used to hear, Zito was 50 and 1 when provided a six run lead? Something like that.

  63. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 28, 2023 at 10:08 pm

    Dodgers lost.

  64. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:09 am

    Webb deserved better fate, he really is as close to Ace status as it gets. 1 BB/13 Ks ugh.
    Lisle’s tastes in jazz differed from mine, but admire what he was able to accomplish in that difficult to thrive in genre.

  65. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:13 am

    Looked at box for Reds-LA game and neither SP went beyond 5.2. Total of 7 different pen guys finished up, and wildness by Almonte of Dogs cost them the game and that wound up having most impact. I think game is changing dramatically in this direction; quality SPs will always stand out, but will pitch fewer innings and more quality will be needed at back end to succeed.

  66. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:18 am

    Dogs added Amed Rosario and he wound up with 2 hits and rbi last night. Hasn’t had productive season at bat or in field, but gave them spark last night in lineup. giants so desperately need that kind of vet to add spark in their batting order. Rooks 2-14, but poor Luciano got burnt by ump.

  67. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 8:26 am

    Webb getting Cained is really getting old. And AZ lost.


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