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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 29, 2023

it’s wild to watch this offense fall off a cliff like this.

April: 46 bombs July: 21 bombs

And you can question whether they fiddled with the ball all day long but there’s this too:

April BA: .248 July BA: .203

TWO OH THREE!!!!!!

That’s outrageous incompetence for a team in one month.

Need hitters. Need starting pitchers.

Time ticking away.

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 8:20 am

    Baggs in TA said Winn is being looked at over elbow soreness (yikes!) and Whisenhunt is on 7 day IL. Beck though had 2 inning scoreless outing. So pitching depth a little stretched, and it does suck to lose Webb start. He just gets Cained. Webb afterwards wasn’t happy Kap took him out either at 88 pitches, nor w what happened as Rogers gave up 3rd run. Baggs also said Wade Jr. unavailable to hit last night, for Wisely or anyone.
    Dang it sucked to watch Justin Turner (on D no less) and Kenley Jansen beat Giants.

    • Bob Sr's avatar Bob Sr said, on July 29, 2023 at 1:47 pm

      Webb pitched that 9 inning shutout gem and then had that terrible start last week. I was hoping Kap would have pulled Webb after 6 against Boston. I think Webb is still recovering from that 9 inning gem he threw.

  2. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 8:23 am

    Nice twitter pic of smiling Luciano in clubhouse with ball from first hit and to see family in town.
    Craw not to be activated until Sunday.

  3. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 8:33 am

    Yeah, Webb getting Cained is getting real old. At least AZ lost as well. Wisely’s AB was god awful. Not sure why Matos got the hook instead of him.

  4. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 8:51 am

    Time keeps on ticking, ticking, ticking
    Into the future…

    Yesterday’s thread set a record for names I never heard of.
    Musical SNOHEHOs…

  5. Winder's avatar Winder said, on July 29, 2023 at 9:01 am

    Not sure what being a streaky team really means but that is what we are. Probably like a glass half full depends on how you look at it. The longer the season goes the more book the pitchers have to draw from.

  6. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 9:03 am

    Paxton, another LHP, goes today for Sox, having solid season ala Seattle days 2017-18. maybe w earlier start ball travels a bit better than couple Giants hit well last night like Bailey’s that didn’t leave yard.

  7. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 9:32 am

    Redsox’s have Mashers throughout their LU compared to the Giants anemic attack…
    First 7 hitters for Boston last night and for the season..
    1) Duran OPS .863 OBP .363
    2) Yoshi OPS .868 OBP .374
    3) Turner OPS .832 OBP .356
    4)Devers OPS .849 OBP .329
    5) Duvall OPS .869 OBP .331
    6) Casas OPS .851 OBP ..361
    7) Verducci OPS .771 OBP ..344

    Giants could only dream of having sluggers with power like that in their LU, only Joc,Wilmer & Slater all part time players ( Joc more usage but whatever) have OPS over .800

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 9:53 am

      Fenway is very hitting friendly yard plus couple others in AL East. Still big rook crushed ball here.

  8. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 9:46 am

    Paxton would be a nice get.

  9. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 10:32 am

    Thairo hit 4 of those April shower HRs.

  10. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 10:40 am

    Just as expected. Two of three most “impactful” blown calls last night were those two on Luciano (man on 3B). It’s outrageous to have two such in one AB. Happened one other time I recall–2021 PS game v the bums. Infuriating.

  11. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 10:47 am

    The corporation that owns the local Fox channel in my area is still in a contract dispute with DirecTV, so….no Giants game on TV for me today.
    This situation is going to get a lot more real to more people if this continues into the start of the NFL season, and people start missing 49er games. But maybe that’s what it will take to get the situation resolved.

  12. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 11:21 am

    Giants minor league writer Roger Munter tweets that Whisenhut complained of exhaustion in Richmond and has now reached last year’s IP total. He guesses this IL stint is just a precautionary rest. Munter’s got a link to his sub stack articles on his tweeter account. Is anyone going to call Twitter X? It’ll be like Candlestick.

  13. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 11:44 am

    And the hits just keep on coming..
    Keaton Winn has a sore elbow in his throwing arm and to see a Doctor.Expect him do get shut down as SP options getting worse! They have to trade for a a couple starting arms!!

  14. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 1:44 pm

    Any relation to Scott (heavy sinker) Munter?

  15. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 1:45 pm

    i use thestreameast.to

  16. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 2:44 pm

  17. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    1. A. Slater , LF (R)
    2. W. Flores , 1B (R)
    3. J. Davis , 3B (R)
    4. P. Bailey , C (S)
    5. L. Matos , CF (R)
    6. M. Conforto , DH (L)
    7. M. Luciano , SS (R)
    8. C. Schmitt , 2B (R)
    9. M. Yastrzemski , RF (L)

    P. R. Walker (R)

  18. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:26 pm

    Mets trading Scherzer to Rangers, pending Scherzer’s approval.

  19. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:30 pm

    Wisely’s AB last night was ridiculously bad. Missing breaking pitches by two feet.

  20. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:32 pm

    As Monte Hall use to say “Let’s make a Deal”
    I don’t care if it’s curtain 1,2 are 3 just not the clunker behind the box..
    Step up Z and make it happen..

  21. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:32 pm

    It’s hard to see a role for Craw anymore. Luciano needs to play everyday. Maybe have Luciano DH once in a while.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:53 pm

      Who would you rather see pinch hit? Wisely or Crawfish?

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:07 pm

        C

      • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:03 pm

        Sign Bum as an opener and have him as an extra bat off the bench. He has to have more pop than Wisely.

  22. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    Turns out Whisenhunt has actual sprained elbow. (Baggs) So much for Munter’s guess He doesn’t have much inside access. Bad news. Harrison must be closing in on his IP limit.

  23. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    There giving Luciano some work at 2B I heard.Why not,until Estrada gets back and sending useless hitter Wisely back down it’s Scmitt&Luciano getting the starts, unless Monte Farhan makes a deal for a vet infielder at the deadline..

  24. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    With the Marlins loss, the Giants occupy sole possession of the third wild card spot.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:24 pm

      couldn’t care less. Backing into shit when we suck means nothing. Farhan needs to act, and fast.

  25. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    Nice play by Schmitt there.

  26. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:25 pm

    Wilmet!

  27. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    Wilmer is so solidly valuable. Now that his 1B D seems good, I think he’s earned more time there whether Wade ‘s healthy or not.

  28. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    Well, that sucked.

  29. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:34 pm

    Bailey the latest rookie to hit the skids.

  30. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    Who could have predicted Giants with men on 2d and 3rd with no outs, and neither scores?
    Everybody…

  31. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:39 pm

    when i watch Walker pitch live, I’m like “how does anyone ever hit that.”

  32. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    Kapler’s toned down his diction for national interviews. No optimal/suboptimal flash; it’s average/above average for Fox.

  33. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    Like the Redsox’s pitcher Kutter last night Walker &him are very deceptive with their delivery’s..
    Walker has been a tremendous rookie pitcher for this bullpen..

  34. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    Wilmer up to .297
    NL Player of the Month?

  35. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    These Giants uni’s are the sharpest I’ve seen by far this year!
    Mr.Ed continues to rake,OPS second to Othani says it all..

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:29 pm

      Standard Saturday unis I think. My son has one of those jerseys.

  36. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:18 pm

    Lucky!

  37. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:19 pm

    Unlucky!

  38. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    8 baserunners in 4.

  39. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    Argghh

  40. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:31 pm

    Wilmer! His wry grin on the ground after the play was perfect.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:47 pm

      Doing it all. Nice grab on the pop up too.

  41. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    On pace for 20 hits and 1 run.

  42. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:45 pm

    Like to know a site that gives Giants hitters in and out of zone swings.
    Matos 0-1 swung at 97 up and in on his hands. Then dribbled changeup off the plate for a hit. Paxton is crafty guy but hitting his pitch is rarely gonna work.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:46 pm

      Well, Conforto missed 2 sliders by a combined 4 feet.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:48 pm

        Oh yeah it’s not just the kids. Conforto and Wade have chased high out of zone fastballs lately too

  43. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    Yeah, 6″ wide. Ring him up.

  44. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    Another bad call in a crucial count. Umps are fucking the Giants this series.

  45. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    Baby!!!!

  46. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:51 pm

    Only 2 pitchers used yesterday after full day off, so Kap has full complement to cover for Manaea.

  47. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    RIGP= Runners in Ghost Position!!!
    The usual smell of burning shit coming out of this offensive LU ( minus All-World Wilmer Flores Mr.July Ed)

  48. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    The big trades are happening. Scherzer to the Rangers.

  49. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    Xoot wake me up if Farhan pulls his head out of his ass and makes a move…

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:10 pm

      I think you’ll hear that unplugging sound from where you are.

  50. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    The MLB rumor mill says some teams are interested in Arenado.
    If the Giants could get him, it would be like when they got Bryant for a playoff push.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:11 pm

      I saw Arenado to the bums as nearly done deal. All rumors of course.

  51. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    Do you ever question Manaea’s passion? He’s easy to root for.

  52. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    Give him credit, Manaea’s game of the year.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:12 pm

      Faced 14 hitters given up 2 hits 0 BBs 5 Ks and protected slim lead.

  53. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    The big difference is that Arenado has about $100 million still coming to him…

  54. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:13 pm

    Wow what got into Manaea today? 4.1 innings 2 hits 5K’s on 47 pitches and the key no walks! Outstanding work..

  55. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:26 pm

    Llovera in. Huh. Think he has something to prove?

  56. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:27 pm

    hitting against that guy with all those LL’s to start his name

  57. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:35 pm

    Llovera vs. the LOBeras.

  58. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:37 pm

    Fuckin ump…

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:38 pm

      Doval better get some of these strikes.

  59. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:38 pm

    This ump crew is horrible.

  60. James's avatar James said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:43 pm

    That 2-0 pitch to Flores … beyond frustrating to watch.

  61. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    Fuck this ump and the Sox.

  62. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:49 pm

    tha that hanging slider from Doval that almost got hit out — I can’t remember the last time he threw a mistake meatball like that. Maybe never.

  63. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:51 pm

    the number of bad calls vs the Giants at the plate and on the mound today is outrageous. Kapler should go after it publicly.

  64. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    Ova!

  65. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    JD! Yes.

  67. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    that look on Davis face as he watched that ball go down the line was classic

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:01 pm

      My son dug what he called the pimp job on the bat flip. I liked that too.

  68. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    YEAH JD!!!

  69. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    Damm Doval just gets too slider happy ,if he just fired his 100 mph gas this game would have been over! Anyone notice Devers has the mini version of Joe Morgan’s Chicken Wing batting timing?
    Hell Yeah!!! JD Davis Walkoff Bomb!!

  70. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    Thank you Mets. WTG JD.

  71. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    Effing awesome. Night Kenley.

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      👍

  72. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    He shoulda done the Fisk wave…

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:30 pm

      lulz.

  73. James's avatar James said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:58 pm

    Thank you, JD.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on July 29, 2023 at 6:59 pm

  74. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:00 pm

    Yeah that was a great stare down by JD watching that Game Winner and an impressive short bat flip!! Wonder if he has on his “Deadlifts&Dingers” T-shirt on under his jersey…

  75. James's avatar James said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:07 pm

    A nod to Bailey for nailing the runner in the top of the 9th, too. More shit was slated to happen.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 29, 2023 at 7:37 pm


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