When You’re The Openest
My main main Scott Alexander getting the start tonight. Open that shit up. Wide. I’m all in on The Opener now since I have to be.
Just checked the relief pitcher appearance leaders. The Reds have 4 guys in the top 3 somehow. That’s impressive. We have 2 in the top 3. Amazingly, Alexander, who seems to pitch multiple times a day, isn’t in the top 10.
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Webb went 7 with 2 guys after him, Cobb went 6 in his start. Plenty of guys pitching very well who are rested up to fall in behind the others.
Love the D but Schmitt has to go. Last swing he took was just awful, chasing pitch far outside zone. Cannot survive vs. ML pitching as long as he continues to do that. Luciano better option.
would you have traded Schmitt for Flaharty?
No. Not in on Flaherty, a headcase and a 2 month rental. Pass. Schmitt like some of the others needs to reset in Sac and get his head straight. Plus defender and versatile.
Balt traded their 16th and 18th rated prospects. No need to trade Schmitt. Schmitt needs to go back down and figure shit out. He’s 23 and stands to be a starter for a long time if he can hit. Not worth it for a 2 month rental.
In a heartbeat I would have traded Schmitt for Flaherty!
#metoo
Day baseball today; cool!
Day baseball on sunny summer day in SF, with temps in high 60s lol. Many parts of the country that’s today’s low temp. Just a different place to play ball, always has been. Afternoon games at Stick on 1b side once sun shifts, yeow. Anyone who lived there like Lefty O’Doul knew about wind too before yard ever got built.
There not getting any offense out of 2B since Estrada’s been out, hope he’s back real soon.Diaz&Wisely although good with the glove, both just can’t hit a lick.Good for the kid Diaz to break his futility with Kokomo Joe (what both 1-16?) but even that hit would of been a routine out to 2nd if the infield wasn’t drawn in, but I’ll take it and his 1st ML RBI as well..
Giants offense much more an issue in july swoon. BA, slash numbers 11-12 NL across board, runs and HRs 8th, K’s and triples 14-15, and they don’t steal many bases either.
Pitching top 3 in league for runs ERA yada yada. They strike hitters out and don’t walk them either. High groundball rate with good D behind them. It’s fine!
Slush said Brandons were texting about them each going yard Tuesday and Belt said something about teaming up for Brandon cycle. Craw’s response was “who’s gettting the triple?”
Slumps from Davis Wade Jr Conforto and others in July hopefully now past. Resurgence (brief as it may be) from Craw plus any help they get from Estrada Yaz Haniger would be better than chump hitters like DeJong that got moved at deadline.
you and James are funny. All you guys ever want to do is keep the guys we have. It’s a painfully boring approach to being a fan but if that floats your boat keep on sailing……
mmm Crawford has to retire, and Pederson and Wood need to go. All vet OFs (not Sabol or Matos) under performed so Z has lot of work to do there too. less impressed with Slater than I used to be.
Haniger is a long term contract isn’t he?
Haniger signed through 2024 w player option for 2025 per BR
Ha. A Z version of long term
Huh. His salary jumps from $8 million this year to $20 M next year and then sinks a bit to $15.5 M in 25 if he wants it. I don’t get that.
The 3 stages of Flaherty: great, injured, sucks.
lulz.
6 guys in the top 3?
some are tied for the top 3 spots
I think calling Schmitt a plus defender is diplomatic understatement. He also has developed versatility. I wonder if he’ll see the kind of pitching he needs to adjust to in Sac. Agreed, we don’t need another hole in the LU. But if the choice comes down to Diaz (or unWisely) and Schmitt, I’d keep Schmitt as the backup IF when Thairo returns. Crawford’s due for more leg problems. Luciano redux.
Schmitt is matt Williams redux. If he’s not playing all the time here he should be full-time in Sacto.
Schmitt doesn’t have Williams true power. He’ll need to use all fields etc. Game has changed in 35 years too.
He should. Dude is built like a truck.
Yeah he’s as tall as Williams, Longo, Schmidt et al, but both beefier and more frenetic. And he’s always struck out a ton. Unusual player, really.
Diaz at 2nd? Why not Wilmet?
Schmitt for Flaherty is nuts. I woulda liked to get him but not for Schmitt. A couple lower level guys like Wisely and whoever.
With tomorrow off resting both Craw&Wilmet makes sense their both still available off the bench to PH.Get them ready for Friday with 2 days of rest is probably the plan..
I’d rather have Wilbur playing and trying to take this series. The Giants have an amazing knack for doing nothing the first 2 times through the lineup.
I like this.
Definitely need a humidor there…
The Rockies will send a scout soon. Those kids will be acclimated from birth.
OK, one time . . .
Second time thru the LU sure didn’t bother Wade with that blast!
I’m biased but I don’t see why Diaz couldn’t catch that throw. The bang bang slide I suppose.
The Giants face a pitcher with 7.44 era and near 1.5 whip whose name is Pfffft!, and they have one BB, one hit and one run after six?
The ERA is below 8 only because of this game.
try TWO games. On May 14th he shut us down thru 5innings, 1 earned run.
We suck. We needed Flaherty.
Yes, I know, I just didn’t want to figure out what his ERA would have been without the first game.
And the lead. Insurance runs would be nice.
Flaherty, 6 innings, 1 run, 8ks, yeah we didn’t need that in our rotation. That guys sucks.
It’s a good thing he wasn’t traded to the Angels.
Schmitt has played great SS today filling in for a vet whose leg keeps giving out. But we don’t need him on our roster ir in our future.
Yeah I’m stilled pissed they didn’t bother trying to get Flaherty.
Bet Z decided which is a lame excuse that Wade/Flaherty stare down in St Louis might have influenced it.It’s still dumb cause players all have issues against an opponent player..
Hey Tommy! You gettin ready for fantasy football?
Fan’s voice was very loud on tv.
Dang right back at him. what a way to end inning.
Didn’t Dick Dietz wear #2?
lot going on in 8 pitches doval thrown so far.
Game shoulda been over.
Got em. Nicely done.
AJ Palooka’s nice play of the LD off the wall and excellent throw to 2B saved a run in the 9th.
Definitely, that was big to hold him to single.
I just love taking 1-0 games.
I don’t care if it’s off the wall with Walker’s speed he should of made it to second and would of tied it when the next hitter got a basehit.But that’s cool it all worked out now after some usual torture at the end.. Victory is all that matters,good job Giants!!
They never showed us a replay to see if he was watching for the HR instead of sprinting out of the box. It seems 99% of the time, the player always watches for the HR before sprinting.
With the perfect throw, it looked like the play at second might have been close, even if Walker had been busting it from the start.
the 3B coach saw how cleanly Palooka played the ball and how quickly and smoothly he coiled around to throw. And that throw was on the money. And I don’t think anyone would’ve assumed that low LD screamer would be a HR.
The game clocked in at a tidy 2:05.
Very nice.
Only managed two hits but won. Tristan Beck may be one of Farhan’s young arms which convinced him not to make trade for pitcher two days ago. Feels like we stole series from D’backs. Keep pedal to metal vs A’s this wknd before schedule gets tougher.
An intriguing four game series between the Padres and Dodgers starts tonight in San Diego. It’s a hugely important series for the Padres.
Padres/Dodgers starts tomorrow night, with a “wrap-around” game on Monday.
Good call on Padres-Dodgers series. Padres starting to show life.
Starting Monday thru Labor Day, Giants play 7 consecutive series against teams with winning records including 6 games with Braves, 3 with Rangers and 3 with Rays. Also throw in Phils, Reds and Angels. Then add Padres at back end who could be north of .500 by Sept.
A couple weeks back, I predicted the Padres would be over 500 pretty soon. I actually hope the Dodgers bury them, although I doubt that’ll happen. The Pads are a bigger problem for the Giants’ WC hopes than the DBs and Miami.
i think you also predicted the O’s were frauds.
I think I expressed skepticism because the W-L was way better than their run differential at the time. Like the Marlins and DBs. I hardly ever make predictions, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to call out here. You think the Padres are obviously losers this year?
Here’s the one thing I could find that I posted about the Orioles during the series in SF:
“SF 4th in ERA, 6th in OPS. If that’s still true by the end of the year, and Baltimore doesn’t improve its own underlying stats, they won’t be better than us.”
well, that prediction is looking quite wrong isn’t it…..
and btw any idiot could predict the Padres will be better than their current record. It’s astounding their record is so bad as it is. GM or Manager should probably get fired.
The Orioles comment wasn’t a prediction. I only brought up the Padres in the context of the other comments. You’re right, it wasn’t terribly insightful since they’ve had a positive run differential most of the season, but there hasn’t been much attention paid to the Pads until now.
last time we see the DBacks this year, regular season. Good time to reap.
Great win. Love all you guys, but not trading for Flaherty was nuts. No need for Schmidt in the deal. We would have sent lower tier guys. If he pitched for a month and got hurt then that would have been awesome! I love the openers doing so well, but what will you be saying if the bullpen arms flame out? Of course i hope that doesn’t happen, but chances are way less if a good starter got 5-6 starts and saved 36 innings from those guys so they would be fresh in Oct when the will literally pitch in every single game for 4-5 weeks!
i know it could have been done for less than Schmitt. But I still would have done it.
Player A: 2023 ERA before today 4.43 WHIP 1.55. BA against .278 OPS .795
Player B: 2023 ERA before today 2.94 WHIP 1.09 BA against .226 OPS .635
A is J Flaherty, B is T Beck.
Beck’s line today 4 innings 0 runs 0 BBs 2 hits 3 Ks. I’ll take him as fill in behind opener. Giants record is 15-5 in opener games. Z and Kap have guys to make this work, 75% of time, and Beck is one of them. Flaherty winning 75% of his games with Giants offense behind him?
of course you’ll take him, he’s a Giant. Those are the only guys you ever want. Only someone with blinders can’t see the upside of Flarhaty over Beck (who I really like btw)
Blind faith in Flaherty is all yours. He walks lot of guys and gives up lot of hits though K rate is up.
Upside all in Beck’s favor and I like him because he’s pitching well and filling important role.
it’s not blind faith, it’s a guy I liked who we should have tried to pick up for very little. You lemmings who listen to the boardroom blatherer Farhan are the ones who have been sucked in beyond saving………
Here are Flaherty’s 2023 game logs:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=flaheja01&t=p&year=2023
He’s had a few other good games like his start today, and the 9 runs in 2 innings did serious damage to his numbers overall. Still, his record doesn’t suggest that he’s going to be the winning difference in a playoff series.
what’s always hilarious to me about you is that you tout stats to only suit your take. When it came to Pollock you were like “oh this guy hits lefty’s just not this year” suggesting this was some lightning in the bottle bullshit. But with Flarhety who was dominant in 2019 and 2021 you just want to look at this year. Classic. The guy was injured. He’s back now. He’s 27. It was fucking stupid to not trade some low level bullshit for him and it’s even stupider that you don’t get that.
I’m glad you find my glaring stupidity hilarious.
Um “back” yes. As good as earlier, definitely not; he’s nothing like 2019–gives up more hits and walks and Ks less guys.
Last 3 starts before today he gave up 10 runs and 4 HRs in 17 innings. 2 good starts before that and 2 good years in last 5.
i know what his stats are. Continue to clutch your giants players close my man, don’t lose even one of them! Fucking Flarherty is going to help the O’s this year (as he did today he was throwing 96-97 most of the game) and you guys will be beating off to fucking Tristan Beck. Again, a guy i like. But we already had him. We needed more and Farhan did nothing but his typical Boardroom speak that too many Flappers got tricked by. It’s the fucking same old shit.
AZ had miserable July, going 8-16 and Giants have only added to their woes. But they are still a good hitting team. Giants will see them in AZ mid September.
5th NL for runs, 6 BA 5th OPS 2nd Doubles #1 triples 2nd SBs. Giants held them to 9 runs in 4 games. After holding down good hitting Red Sox team before that. Pitching doing the job.
You’re right two in Phoenix next month. I’m sure I heard Jon Miller in the radio pregame say this week was it for AZ this season. Maybe he misspoke; maybe I misheard. We’re both getting old.
i get why some of you are bedazzled by Farhan. He’s an excellent talker. He sells well. His boardroom speak is peak. But if you look behind the talk that’s all it is. It bums me out so many of us here have been fooled by his words. He’s full of shit though and after years and years of winning nothing people will finally catch on. He’s Billy Beane is sheeps clothing.
I guess we disagree about the “winning nothing” part. World Series championships? No championships yet describes a high percentage of the current GMs and team presidents. (Although Zaidi did help build the Dodger team that won it in ‘20.)
It even took the great Sabien about 13 or 14 years to get that first one in ‘10.
winning nothing under Farhan. Sorry I wasn’t specific. Farhan is just another version of Billy Beane only worse cause he can spend $ and make bold moves, he just won’t.
Farhan’s public pronouncements rarely offer much, although he does preview call ups. And he did have to scramble to finish the roster last winter after the enormous “Arson” Judge and Correa signings fell through.
i hate listening to him. He sounds completely FOS 100% of the time. And he’s got a Tim Kurkjian laugh that he interjects only to end questions that makes me want to punch him in the face. I seriously don’t get how educated people get sold on his bullshit.
Just read where the Giants payroll ranks ninth in the league so even dumpster diving is expensive.
Hey, the A’s held the Dodgers to zero runs in the first inning. It’s one small step for the A’s, one giant leap for A’s-kind.
And then the second inning happened.
My son and his girlfriend are headed to Saturdays game at the E Coli. Last year the first Giants game there drew by far the best attendance of the season for the A’s. 40K vs 36K for the best yankee game. It’ll be even more packed this year. More A’s fans than usual to chant sell. Not a violent crowd, I hope.
The A’s are so terrible. If the Giants don’t win both of those games, it’s a colossal embarrassment.
The A’s don’t look major leaguey.
Hard for me to believe that no one’s taken a flyer on Bum.
Giants? Bochy? Anybody?
I wonder what he’s doing. Sitting home waiting for a call? Happy to be out of baseball? Haven’t heard a thing. He sure couldn’t hurt. I think.
Yeah, he could hurt. That’s why nobody’s knocked on his door, even though they’d pay virtually nothing for his services…