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Falling Apart

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 13, 2023

Conforto bomb, Ramos bomb, both nice but not enough to overcome the unraveling of Cobb. And it’s wild to me that Wood still gets to pitch. Like, ever. He’s the worst.

Win today and avoid the sweep at home.

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  1. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 13, 2023 at 8:18 am

    Football season!

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 13, 2023 at 8:20 am

      yeah! Chuck, do we keep all 3 of our QBs on roster or does 1 of them go to practice squad? And why is Brandon Allen even getting a sniff? We got 3 legit guys right?

      • Winder's avatar Winder said, on August 13, 2023 at 9:43 am

        I think when the season starts for real we will carry 3 QB’s on game day and Allen goes to the practice squad.

        I don’t know what it’s gonna take to bring a spark to the Giants. Maybe we can hold on to a final playoff spot. But I doubt it.

    • Daryl Lance's avatar Daryl Lance said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:34 pm

      Seems like the Giants batters are just tired. At this rate if strike outs, stranded base runners and inability to bunt will doom the Giants from the post season.

  2. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 8:34 am

    Ramos also taking a walk and hitting another ball hard to the right side. He didn’t look immediately ready to be “figured out.”

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 8:59 am

      Lack of reliever intensity may have contributed a bit to last night’s impressive HR, but not to that screaming double he hit off closer Smith Friday. He’s ferocious.

  3. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 13, 2023 at 9:13 am

    In spite of everything, still clinging to the second wild card spot at the moment.

  4. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 9:49 am

    Hope Webb can help salvage one today. Rangers and Boch rep lot of things different from SF in their approach, aggressive FO and great hitting team that combine to bring lot of ire from Giants fans in blogosphere. Lot to like over there. Good luck to Boch’s boys, once they leave town.

  5. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 13, 2023 at 10:13 am

    If they can stash Allen on the PS, they will. The Niners have a hard time keeping their QBs upright, so They’ll want 4. Funny, watching the preseason games, most every team had an ex-Niner QB on it. Sudfeld, Mullens, The Beater, Jimmy G, Josh Johnson, on and on. I expected to see Nate Davis out there.

    I really wish they would have paid more attention to the O line. They did very little. Shanny thinks he can turn shit to gold there.

  6. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 13, 2023 at 10:16 am

    Not like we’re playing stiffs. Rangers on pace for most victories in franchise history, e.g., they’ve won 10 of 11 games on this recent run. All the credit to Boch and his crew.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 13, 2023 at 10:35 am

      No, but their pitcher yesterday had a gaudy 4.19 ERA. Heaney sucks. Boch did make a nice move to pull him when he struggled, and it paid off in spades. But until we can score more than 2-3 runs a game, we will continue to drop like a rock.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 10:48 am

        Baggarly suggests today that Bochy planned to use Heaney as an opener to exploit the extreme RH lineup Kap would set against him. Burying sole LH Conforto in the 7th spot eg. As it worked, Craw and Wade got shelved, Joc and Sabol barely got shots.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 13, 2023 at 11:23 am

        Heaney? He pitched 1.1 innings yesterday. Heaney saw the end to his career-best 15 2/3-inning scoreless streak and was done after 1 1/3 innings. Bochy said he hadn’t felt well in Oakland this past week and didn’t have a regular preparation schedule for the outing. We actually scored a run off of Heaney, so I am sort of mystified what you are talking about unc???

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 12:09 pm

        Bochy also acknowledged that he planned to pull Heaney early. The crud was the excuse. Baggarly looked closely at that fact. Why trot him out there at all if he’s not going to try to go deep? Nobody outside the Rangers knew about the illness because it hit after his last start.

  7. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 13, 2023 at 10:49 am

    Donnie Ecker turned the Giants from bottom of the league hitters in 2019 something like .697 OBP to a lead leading .967 in 2021 .This guy is a brilliant hitting coach now bench coach /offensive coordinator and was pivotal on Bochy’s staff hiring the new hitting coach Hyer?
    Anyway he knows the Rangers have a young and talented team and I think he has roots in Texas so it was a no brainer when the GM called if he would be interested in leavening the Giants, and now their on top of mostly all offensive categories, coincidence? Don’t think so Ecker is that good..imo

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 13, 2023 at 11:58 am

      Yep, i agree Kat.

  8. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 11:19 am

    I think Blade is right at 10:16, Texas is really good hitting team, tops in tough AL in multiple categories. After couple .500 months in June/July they are taking off again in August, while Giants surely are not right now.
    Meanwhile Kap’s lineup has combo of slumping vets (signs of life out of Conforto lately though) platoon guys and rooks.

  9. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    Looking at parts of position player roster for Rangers, lot of pieces from elsewhere that have turned into gold for them.
    Seager and Semien of course signed to long term FA deals. Semien is owed $125 mi for 5 more years beyond this one
    C Jonah Heim came from Tampa to Oakland and was traded for Elvis Andrus before 2021 season. The backup M Garver was on Twins, had great 2019 and 2021 and was acquired for IKF.
    1b N Lowe was another Tampa draftee traded away for 3 minor leaguers.
    Adolis Garcia was originally signed by STL and dfa’d in 2019 when Rangers picked him up.

  10. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:22 pm

    Easy to go into Bochy schooled Kap mode but Texas lighting up Cobb for 9 hits (and 16 overall) and 6 runs is what decided the game. Bochy waited to take Heaney out until after he K’d Mathias (hitting RH). Conforto did homer off the guy they brought in, but Giants couldn’t add on vs. Stratton while Rangers kept hitting and scoring off Wood.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:41 pm

      As Baggarly pointed out, after Mathias Slater faced the righty replacement with runners on first and second and grounded into a DP to end the inning. Looks like Bochy planned to have Heaney survive once through the LU.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:59 pm

        Meanwhile, Texas piled it on. True.

    • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:10 pm

      Kap showed “faith” in Slater by not going with Wade. Even though Slater failed, it’ll pay off later in the season. Just like Boch would have done!

      One can layer any bit of nonsense you want on top of the events.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:48 pm

        I think Baggarly peeled back some layers.

      • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 4:25 pm

        I should read the article. He previously pandered to the Bochy vs. Kapler stuff. He knows better.

  11. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:26 pm

    Cubs and Marlins losing, Reds already lost first of 2 to Pirates. Chance to create some more distance before Rays come in for 3 tomorrow.

  12. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:28 pm

    Another bomb at home from Conforto who creates some distance over the CF fence.

  13. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 13, 2023 at 1:28 pm

  14. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    I don’t even care if they win today, just want to see a standard issue 3 run rally again.

  15. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:28 pm

    Davis as pathetic as BB9 at his worst. Maybe he should have toned down the bat flip against the Sox.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:47 pm

      I think Flemming the other night traced Davis’s slump back to the ankle sprain he suffered in June.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:01 pm

        Davis’s BA for June was .282. July .180.

  16. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:47 pm

    “great recovery” oh man.

  17. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:48 pm

    Letting Dunning drop a dozen K’s on us is probably the most pathetic thing this offense has done all season.

    • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:51 pm

      Yep.

  18. xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:49 pm

    There’s that great Thairo swing.

  19. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:55 pm

    The man of the moment …

  20. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 2:59 pm

    Will Kap leave him in too long or fall prey to the “analytics”?

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:03 pm

      Kap wants to get back to the normal opener/pen rotation. Webb almost gave him what he wanted. So close.

      • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:04 pm

        Yeah, that was unfortunate.

  21. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    Dang

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:07 pm

      Could craw have seen where runner was?

    • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:10 pm

      He certainly saw the runner go.

  22. xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:08 pm

    Wonder how that close double to CF would’ve played out if Ramos had still been out there?

  23. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:11 pm

    These speculations are truly sad ….

  24. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:11 pm

    Webb was pissed off he should of been allowed to finish it off..

  25. xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:12 pm

    I’d like to see his arm on a play like that.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:14 pm

      And his bat against Chapman. Wow.

  26. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    Ha the hanger does Wil Smith in!

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:36 pm

      Bailey has been tough RH.

  27. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    14

  28. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:36 pm

    WOW, POW BAILEY!

  29. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:38 pm

    Wow no way in hell did i expect that!
    Bazooka Bailey walk off Bomb!!3-2 winner chicken dinner!!

  30. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    Nice win!

  31. James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    Breathing life into a corpse, indeed.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:41 pm

  32. xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:41 pm

    Bailey catches a Webb gem and then picks up his closer.

    • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:44 pm

      And guns down another runner.

  33. Yogi Barrister's avatar Yogi Barrister said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:45 pm

    The deplorable malcontents and Kapler haters don’t deserve this, but the team does.
    Make the playoffs or not, this season has been so compelling. These ARE the playoffs, every day feels like game seven. We’re blessed if we do, blessed if we don’t.

    • James's avatar James said, on August 13, 2023 at 4:10 pm

      What if I’m only malcontented and deplorable?

  34. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:48 pm

    If that had hit the stupid fucking car I woulda been furious.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:50 pm

      LOL i was listening on the radio but just saw the replay, yeah, that woulda been a bitch–much like Trey Lance in the pocket, Chuck wtf is wrong with him?

  35. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on August 13, 2023 at 3:50 pm

    Beat ’em Bailey! My god, that would’ve been a crushing loss.

  36. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 13, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    Speaking of “Webb Gem” (xoot above) . . . Matos entered the game as a defensive replacement in the 8th inning and made an outstanding diving catch to rob Corey Seager of a hit. Still shocked the Gmen won this game after striking out a season high 17 times. Unfreakingbelievable. Sure did look like Texas was going to continue to be the “anointed one” and sweep us.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      Didn’t he misread the ball and step back before sprinting forward to make the diving catch? I still think he has trouble judging plays in front of him, even on the bases.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 6:10 pm

        yeah that’s what I thought– late break and then lost balance a step before the catch.
        shouldn’t have been that hard as he made it look.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 13, 2023 at 6:28 pm

        Don’t know – just saw the catch (I was talking with someone when the catch occurred).

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 13, 2023 at 6:40 pm

        Heliot didn’t get much action out there before Kap moved him to LF. I recall some river cat tweets with video of him making great plays. If LF’s better, fine. I don’t think he should be headed back to Sac anytime soon. But, Yaz ….

  37. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on August 13, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    Good to see someone on the Giants rock Will Smith.

  38. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    Baggs in TA noted Bochy kept contact minimal before first game, only chatting up Wotus. Bailey butted in for hand shake and Bochy told him he’d seen him playing A ball in Spokane vs. Rangers affiliate. Had nothing but good things to say about him.
    Great baseball minds eh, even about A ball kids.

  39. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on August 13, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    Big win! Losing after that Webb gem would have been tough.
    Lance was supposed to be looking better with improved mechanics. True he was under duress, but he looked the same to me.
    For Bay Area sports fans….Bart, Wiseman, Lance may collectively been the worst group of draft busts to ever all go the the same cities teams at the same time ever!

  40. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    Bochy quotes from shea’s column in Chron from before Game 1 of series:
    “Nice player. Impressive with the progress he’s made. I was telling him I’d seen him last year in Spokane, where I watched our A ball team. He’s done a terrific job for them.
    They’ve got a good one there.”

  41. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 13, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    Craw said after game that in hindsight he wished he’d thrown home instead of first, where he thought he could get the batter.


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