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Finding New Ways To Lose

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 6, 2023

Well, that game had a lot of highs and lows. Two highs were that the offense re-emerged and Big Flavor hit both his bomb bets. The lows were a dominant number though, we played pathetic defense, our pitchers sucked and, ultimately, we lost.

At least I’ve got a day game to boost me spirits as I continue to fight off the raveges of the evil covid virus.

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  1. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 6, 2023 at 7:11 am

    Ahh, just read yesterday’s thread. Get well Flav!

  2. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 7:12 am

    always agreed with this take

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 7:31 am

    If they can get through today with some combo of Manaea or maybe Strip and assorted Brebbias, there’s day off tomorrow and Harrison and Cobb get extra day of rest they didn’t get last week.
    Rox did help out Giants by knocking off D Bax.

  4. chipower9's avatar chipower9 said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:11 am

    Last I saw was 3-0 Giants, early. Took the pooch out and five minutes later it’s 4-3 cubs. Done.

    Checked the score on the LameDay app, later. Ah…6-6 in the 7th. Fire up the boob tube. Oh hell – 10-6 cubs. Turn off the boob tube. Contemplate shooting the boob tube.

    Can we just steal a W for a happy flight to Colorado? Please?

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:28 am

      Yeah, they haven’t had a lead in a week, and they blow 2 yesterday.

      Doval is rusting on the vine. Last time the Giants went on this kind of skid, Doval blew 2 games in a row when it mattered.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:52 am

        MLB logic. Don’t use your best reliever for several days.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 9:11 am

        Dennis used to go ape-shit when using the closer in a non-save situation. He needs to get in there soon.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:37 am

        I agree Dovall needs work. Gotten sharpen the edge of the knife once in a while. Due to lack of use, he might have forgotten there’s a pitch clock…

  5. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on September 6, 2023 at 9:26 am

    Looks like the Giants are calling up Joey Bart for today’s game as Patrick Bailey is suffering from concussion symptoms after he took a shot to his chin from the runner at the plate on Schmitt’s error shit throw that one hopped him instead of what should of been an easy chest high throw and easy out..

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:02 am

      Here’s Bart’s chance….again, to make an impact, and make a turning point in his attempt at a career in MLB.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:15 am

      whoa!
      Bart is still interesting part of C equation. Sabol next year has options iirc and can be sent down; clearly needs lot of work to become adequate defensively, and bat has slumped quite a lot. He hit .214 in August with one extra base hit in 42 ABs, 2 BBs 16 Ks. Little power but low OB and just another platoon guy, hitting .139 off LHP.

  6. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:34 am

    Matos up too for Meckler.

  7. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:35 am

    Please, next year no more Tyler Rogers.
    His stats are pretty good, but I’m just tired of his act. To me, he’s just not a late innings leverage guy. Just take his wares of dink/doink/squib infield hits followed by homers somewhere else.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:51 am

      Last night he had to come in with his “fastball” on a 3-1 count, and it’s just way too hittable.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 11:07 am

        walking the guy in front of him with yard playing like it was can’t happen.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 11:11 am

        Two of those called balls were strikes. The scorecard thing would prolly look terrible.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:17 pm

        To me, a late innings leverage guy has to have the ability to strike out a hitter when absolutely needed situationally, when even a ball put in play is a potential game killer. He doesn’t have the stuff to do that.

  8. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 10:58 am

    2 weeks too late for Merkle.

  9. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 11:38 am

    Wood makes Bellinger look bad then walks Swanson on 4 pitches. arrgghh

  10. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    The off-season the year before I was urging the Giants and Farhan to land Suzuki. He is now 7 for 10 with 9 rbis in this series….I think most of us realists saw this implosion coming a few weeks ago…

  11. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:24 pm

    I called the sweep last night. A bad game like that doesn’t shake off quickly.
    Looks like it’s going to happen, barring a minor miracle.
    Giants look like a team with no leader, no focus, nothing to gel together. Just a bunch of guys flailing…

  12. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:24 pm

    Way past time to chop Wood from the roster.

  13. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:32 pm

    Welcome back Brebbia.

  14. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:32 pm

    Brebbia…

  15. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:48 pm

    Bosa signing has eased some of the sting of this waxing we’re getting

  16. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:55 pm

    Didn’t even know the game was on and it doesn’t sound good so far. as we crash through the .500 mark.

    Realist or no, they were hitting well and pitching well not too long ago.

    Aaaaaaaand Bosa signs deal for 5 years / $170 million.

  17. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 12:57 pm

    The DirecTV and Fox contract dispute is about to get very real for people who will miss 49er games and other games.

  18. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:10 pm

    Slater was just utterly helpless in that at bat

  19. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:12 pm

    Stop the bleeding.

  20. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:15 pm

    Helluva play by Schmitt there. Starting to hit a bit too.
    Thoughts on Cody Bellinger? Bounce back or one off? How much would it take to sign him?

  21. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:40 pm

    I don’t the Cubs even broke a sweat today.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:59 pm

      “I don’t think” I meant.

  22. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:43 pm

    How about those poor schmucks that have to do the hour-long Giants postgame TV show today.

  23. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:48 pm

    Grab a few deep-dish Giordano’s pies to go and get the fuck outta Chi town.

  24. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:50 pm

    Lost 8 of last 9 series, or some such? In crunch time, the response is belly up. Not ready for prime time. This season is cratering, folks.
    Is Kapp in danger here? Any reports of him losing the clubhouse? Whither Farhan?
    They’ve got a bunch of games left with Rockies, which at this point I don’t know is especially good news. Plenty left with Pads and LA, which is likely not good news.
    A finish at .500 now looks optimistic…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:56 pm

      Yaz and Estrada having to get in guys faces says something about how Kapler leads. That being said, I think Kapler has done a pretty damn good job getting the most out of a bunch of scrubbeenies, but there’s only so much blood you can squeeze out of a stone.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 2:03 pm

        This situation starts with ownership.
        There is no way that the Giants should be putting this type of product on the field, given the revenue sources they’ve had. I’d like to know what constraints, if any, Farhan has operated under.
        I wish Joe Lacob owned the Giants.
        He wouldn’t put up with this “patchwork” lineup approach for very long. Yes, baseball is not basketball, but ownership really sets the tone for consistent success. Right now, the 107 Win season looks completely anomalous, a pleasant miracle.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 3:53 pm

        totally agree Snarkk. Why is Kap forced to work with all these “scrubeenies”? This isn’t the Oakland fucking A’s

  25. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:54 pm

    I’d take Bellinger in a nano-second. We have NO ONE that can do anything. Except Wilbur.

    I swear, the Giants lost 3 years of player development by winning those 107 games.

    Glad to see Schmitt getting some hits. This season should now be about playing all the rookies. Bench Conforto, Crawdad, Haniger, Slater, and Joc. Bring up Ramos, Matos, Luciano (when healthy) and any viable body remotely ready for the show.

    We’re sinking to the bottom of the NL so we might as well get playing time for the kids.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 2:12 pm

      Completely agree.
      Haniger signing looks like an expensive wrong turn. Joc looks like the Michelin man. Craw has been done since mid-summer. Let these rooks see more MLB pitching. Schmitt looks like his hitting light bulb is slowly coming on with more ABs.

  26. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 1:57 pm

    Bosa signing is good news for the day, for sure.
    Why it took quite this long is a mystery — they couldn’t wrap this up a week ago?
    Trouble is, though he’s likely in really good shape, there’s nothing like real practice and real games. A real risk is soft tissue injury with him coming into game on Sunday with virtually no pre-season practice…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:13 pm

      I don;t think he’s ever practiced with the team

  27. Dean's avatar Dean said, on September 6, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    Flavor, hope you’re feeling better. Covid virus is fickle. Have two work colleagues recently stricken with Covid. One had very mild symptoms but other was ill for several days.

    Good news is Giants have off day tomorrow so they can’t lose. This team looks completely lost at plate and on mound. 9-21 since August 5th. Lost 9 of past 10 series. If they don’t get healthy with Rockies & Indians at home this week season will be lost.

    We can all do post-mortems at end of year but continued roster shake-ups and dependence on marginal journeyman not working.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 3:52 pm

      today was def worse than yesterday. Fever. cough. Hatin it

  28. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    I had to be in a waiting room for quite a while recently, and the music being played was contemporary country/new country/pop country, whatever it should be called. A lot of it probably isn’t even country. It’s just mediocre pop music, in my opinion. Completely instantly forgettable. But two songs stood out while I was there. One is Luke Combs’ nice cover of Tracy Chapman’s great song “Fast Car.” He made the brave decision to keep the lyrics from a woman’s point of view, willing to take flack from a country audience that might not be open to a man singing a woman’s story. But, it’s turned out to be a big hit. Sometimes a great song just wins out.
    The other song was Kane Brown’s “Bury Me In Georgia.” It sounded like an actual country song. And his background is interesting considering that music market.
    “He is multiracial, with a white mother, and an African-American father who is also part Cherokee.”
    The lyrics don’t have quite the depth I would have liked, but the song stood out to me in the wasteland of Top 40 pop country.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 4:30 pm
  29. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    Dodgers’ Lance Lynn gave up 8 earned runs today, ouch.

  30. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    Atlanta’s Strider gave up 6 earned runs in 2 2/3 innings.

  31. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    Houston is roughing up Scherzer a bit.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 6, 2023 at 6:00 pm

      watching it. That ball Abreu hit looked like a pop fly. Turned into an easy grand slam. That park is a joke.

  32. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 6, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    Bochy is having a lot less fun than he was having earlier in the season.

  33. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 6, 2023 at 6:50 pm

    Given what Giants offered both Judge and Correa in offseason kinda hard to believe Z under any budget restraints.

    Only saving grace beyond Wilmet and couple pitchers has been play of the kids.

  34. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on September 6, 2023 at 7:41 pm

    My biggest problem with the current FO, now completing its 5th year, is that they seem to be either incapable of building a sustainable team or uninterested in doing so. Z hasn’t done well in the off-seasons (unless you count Haniger Stipling and Conforto *doing well*) and at the trade deadlines, but he is the master of picking up cheaper pieces and hoping they stick. I just have a harder time being interested in the team with his approach. Yeah, the kids are coming, and I am very interested in seeing how he builds the team for next year… time will tell.

    The better teams (as well as the Giants in their championship years) have fairly set position player lineups AND fairly set and effective starting rotations. The Giants have neither: over reliance on openers feels like an attempt to mask their inability to build a rotation, and their lineup is different every flippin’ day. The guys just don’t look settled in, all of them are pressing, and in September, that is not a good look. If they don’t have a mostly set lineup because they think no one is good enough to claim a starting spot, then that’s an indictment of the FO. If they don’t have a mostly set lineup because they prefer constantly bringing in interchangeable “just a guy” players because “this is the way the game is played now”, then I guess I just have to get used to that, but it’s not very joyful. Vietnamese saying “po tay”, pronounced like bow tie, meaning, hands are tied, nothing can be done. Ick.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on September 6, 2023 at 7:55 pm

      CliffsNotes version:
      The team stinks.

      • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:06 pm

        Sorry for the ramble, thanks for simplifying. Man, I grew up on Cliff Notes….

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:12 pm

      I like it Paul. Good “ramble”…

  35. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:12 pm

    Just got done watching Justified . . .

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on September 6, 2023 at 8:23 pm

      My kin from Eastern KY got a kick out of it.


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