Harrison!
Nice time for Colorado who some how have the 25th team OPS in the league. How is that even possible playing half your games in Colorado?
We scored 5 runs so that translates to like 2.8 runs at a normal park. Don’t be fooled. We can’t hit.
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I have not paid much attention to the league outside of the Giants and was shocked to see the Rockies are now 8-27!! 8-27!!! That is barely pace for a 40 win season. How can an org be this bad in modern baseball???
I’ll take solace in Loo’s post to open yesterday thread.
“If nothing else, the Giants could be building a pretty solid young rotation.”
Does it ever change with the Giants?, it’s always been the pitching that carried them when they struck gold on 3 straight drafts with Cain,Timmy,Bum and the excellent BP combo’s of Romo,Affeldt,Lopez,Wilson etc.Never any drafted hitters in all the years except Posey&Belt Sandoval that made a difference?
Yeah I like this current pitching staff,Webb,Hicks,Winn,Harrison,Snell&Black for now, not as strong of a BP then the glory days for sure but just more time and experience for some.Hicks was a real steal, he mentioned in wanting to be a starter he would need to not only add more strength and stamina, but also another pitch ( the splitter) and also take some heat off his 100 mph FB days to now like 4mph slower at 96 just for added control which seems to be doing the trick!
But it’s time to bring up the next batch of Giants helpers are failures in Ramos,Matos,Luciano,Schmitt,etc they’re not getting any younger especially Ramos drafted in 2017 at 17 now rotting away at 24 with a shitload of minor league experience!
Hard to get excited about are current players, only All World WadeJr, Estrada,Bailey,&Lee move the needle for me,the rest it’s a lost needle in the haystack…
Excellent observations Kat, the only other I’d add is Flores. I’d like to see more of his bat. But where do we put him? DH? That would relegate Soler to what role? We gotta find a way to get his bat going.
I don’t know about you, but, so far, the only player I find truly compelling on this squad is JHoLee. I never want to miss his plate appearances and his work in the outfield has been rather spectacular.
I agree. Hicks every five days is next, for me. I find the way he relies on the two seamer and off speed pitches now, saving the high octane four for closer-like jams, compelling. Like Lee, he’s an intense competitor, too.
Well said Xoot:
”he’s an intense competitor, too.”
we could use more of that edge from some obvious others.
Nobody on the typical starting lineup of position players was drafted and developed from the SF minor leagues. That is pretty damning on the Farhan era, now in year 6. It is hard to be consistently successful with that situation on the roster…
Well, Bailey is the only one.
Sorry, was thinking of last night.
Yep, Bailey is it.
The others on the 26 are Fitzgerald and Slater — hardly worth heralding as in-house talents. I know the pitching staff is solid with drafting talent, but the position players are crazily imbalanced to non-home grown. Can the Giants only evaluate pitchers, and nothing else?
I checked the Doghairs. Their home-grown position players are Will Smith, Lux, Rojas (drafted, left, now back), Outman, Pages. Not exactly LOADED position player roster with home grown, but a few more than SF, and better. Am I barking up the wrong tree here — doesn’t it make economic and planning sense to have near or at least half of your usual position talent on the 26 be home grown?
Yeah, its the same old same old ‘let’s rely on the vets to lead the way’ philosophy that is so maddening. Melvin is proving to be a pretty by-the-numbers manager who isn’t making any difference when it comes to errors in fundamentals, baserunning, and taking out hot hitters for Slater.
We seem to be better than last year, but the guys they hoped would hit aren’t. And the guys we knew wouldn’t hit aren’t.
Yeah, baseball drafting is likely one of the hardest things in pro sports to nail, but the flip side is how inept can these guys be? I mean, Sabes had a streak of 4 drafts that built a rotation and an infield that won the 3 in 5. Other than than, he was all over the place.
But like I’ve said for years, and many others have noted, our last all-star home grown OFer was Chili Dog.
This from the team that drafted Garry Maddox and Gary Matthews in the same year.
Maybe instead of relying on our scouting dept. to find gems we should concentrate on poaching scouts from teams like Cleveland, etc. They seem to find quality players pretty often.
But then who really wants to come work for a fascist supporting donor who’s probably only real concern is his own bottom line.
hope that wasn’t to political
I doubt if the owner’s politics bother baseball players. Crap, a lot of them are probably down with old man Johnson’s politics. The main thing with players is how thick the owner’s wallet is and how many years they can get out of him / them…
Yeah, pretty much everything is about the Benjamin’s.
I found this (Brian Murphy: Chronicle) to be a reasonably considerate article on the G’s current predicament and the general reaction to the state of affairs:
https://apple.news/AQTt7Q4mbR-a5tF2Jtupoaw
Same shit we’ve been saying. Melvin relies on the vets at the cost of player development. Like they’ve built a dynasty that needs that one guy to come alive.
I mean, who really gives a shit about Slater? Just put Fitzgerald in his spot. Ramos. ANYONE younger than him.
Question: How many of Dodgers position players are homegrown from system? Betts, Ohtani, Teoscar Hernandez, Freeman and Muncy, no. Nor Chris Taylor Kike Hernandez nor Jason Heyward. Back up 2b is Miguel Rojas, 10 year vet they got from Marlins last year, glove first guy who hit .236.
So you’ve got Will smith and Gavin Lux (.191 w 1 HR .505 OPS) who sucks so bad at SS they had to move Betts there in first place. Outman the rookie from last year is hitting .163 and might be sent down in place of rookie Andy Pages.
Lot of ways to build a successful team, no? But Dogs hit FA market pretty heavily.
The Dogs have traded away a lot of prospects to get those guys.
Bird in the hand and all that.
The Phil’s spent heavily in FA market for their top of order guys–Schwarber Realmuto Harper Castellanos and Trea Turner. Younger homegrown guys broke out somewhat last year, like Marsh Bofm and Scott but struggled year before.
OK, today WordPress is back to demanding I log in for every post, and the edit function is -whooops — gone again.
WordPress seems to have functionality as consistent as were Kappler’s daily lineups …
Hi all . . . Hope you are all doing well.
Thanks for sharing that column Bassbaldy. For me, the key part of that entire column was the paragraph that included this line, “Waiting for a guy to get hot has a better track record than waiting for a guy to figure things out.”
I don’t disagree with that comment, but do you know what? I can give 2 shits as it applies to the Giants right now. I am exhausted and bored by waiting for Slater, Yaz, Chapman, etc., “to get hot.” Promote someone, anyone, from Sacramento. Year 6 and we are still waiting for someone to be a revelation to this bas . . . uhh, real estate organization. Johnson and Zaidi make me wish I had more middle fingers.
Good to see you back on here, blade.
No kidding, Blade. When both options suck, at least you find something out playing the young(er) guys. Playing Slater is a bullshit proposition.
Per the article we are sucking because we are facing good pitching?
This is the big leagues. We always face good pitching.
Just fed up with the Giants acting like the dregs of the league (see Oakland A’s, Colorado Rockies, Miami Marlins) with zero accountability; both for the Giants front office, and particularly, players.
Yankees and Dodgers would have shit canned Zaidi, Slater, Yaz, or anyone after this many years of little or no performance. My bad that I was blinded by this – particularly in the case of Zaidi for years. Only his chicken shit firing of Kapler a week before the season ended, opened up my eyes to Zaidi’s incompetence and cowardice. Zaidi’s about as useful as a knitted condom.
DJLoo pointed out the other day that Slater had a burst of success last year, after he rehabbed. (BA over .400 in mid June? Something like that; but the season splits tell the story, too.) Must’ve been his last shot. All I can seem to recall is his horrible second half and Kapler’s bizarre tirade about what a great pinch hitter he was, when he obviously no longer was. He’s not going to come around now. ABS–anyone but Slater.
We got ONE position guy in the Farhan years. And that’s Bailey.
We are stuck with Chapman and Soler for at least till the trade deadline. They’d be worth something only if for a change of scenery.
Ramos up as Soler on 10 day IL, retro to May 5.
Can they IL Slater retro to March 30?
How about that 1st pitch HR for Conforto!!
Hey now! Ramos trying to do that. Nice AB.
WOW!! A Ramos hit with RISP!!
FUCK YEAH !!!
Heliot yeah, RBI single!
Melvin cracks open the book for some action.
Hoo Lee Rocket!
Gotta love this.
J Ho … FUCK YEAH …
Let the four winds blow!
A 6 spot!
Hung so Low with a smoking seed off the wall!
And Late Night just keeps raking with a 2 run single!
Holy smokes Batman 6-0 how could that be???
Late Night is nicely dialed in, too.
As Santana put it, I hope you’re feeling better. Giants aren’t as bad as they played a week ago. Enjoy the game.
Hey now! When was the last time we batted around? 2022?
Conforto 2-2 this inning.
7 hits in the inning for 6 runs, 2 hits for Conforto Nice stuff to see..
Bailey can’t get back soon enough.
Sabol. What a liability. Reetz couldn’t’ve done any worse on that run scoring passed ball. And I’d love to see Reetz hit at Coors.
Sabol redeems.
Sabol can hit. Better than he can catch. If he can play OF, there’s another sub for Slater…
Yep.
Hicks working himself into trouble.
Ooooooooh.
Nasty slider.
Hicks is getting hot licked.
And we got Jelly Man Kelly in the pen. Fuck.
Hoooooooooooooooo
Pitcher’s best friend, since we are breaking out the book.
Get those runs back, Giants.
6-4-3 and Hicks makes it thru 5.
That’s the best thing I’ve ever heard about Dusty as a manager: “Think Lucky.” That’s realistic baseball thinking.
That’s my approach when I walk into a casino 🎰..
This looks and feels like a brewing, old-fashioned Coors field disaster.
It worked out, but how Chapman missed that 3-1 pitch is just baffling.
Got one of em back
Fuck. What did Jelly Man Kelly do? This is a goddamn bullpen special. Clean inning? Shut down inning?
A couple of grounders got through for singles, one a pretty good job of handling a tough outside slider, then Rogers came on to face Blackmon.
Thanks.
Of course Doval comes in and walks the first guy he sees.
Spaceman part II.
Oh fuck.
If I hear FP Santangeload say one more time that bringing in a closer in a non-close situation means they aren’t focused, I’m going to hurl. Doval frequently is un-focused regardless of the situation…
And make that 2 straight walks ferchrissakes…
Doval is harder to watch than Wilson. He gives a Eli manning vibe at times. Wake up man!
I’m going with Elmer Fudd.
Wow. If ever there was a time for Doval to not space out it was there.
Excellent play.
Oh shit.
Wow, what a DP.
Ugh, what a bomb.
Ballgame.
A winning streak!
Nothing this team does comes easy. Nothing. But that 3-6-1 DP was sweet.
And then Doval does shit like a beautiful DP and covers 1st base to be in on it!
And now he gives up a HR WTF 2 run lead..
And he holds on for the Win for Hicks!!
Giants baseball ⚾️ crazy as always…
Every time the Giants score 8 runs this season, they win…
Lulz
Jesus. A near rocky disaster.
A win is a win!
”I saw during the game that Albini had died, which made it a little hard to focus. Our musical tastes differed wildly, but I’ve treasured his interviews since high school — there’s a great one in Tape Op where he gushes over Jimmy Page as a producer — and admired his smarts, wit, business practices, and moral sense. In Utero is a top 20 album for me, and a better pop album than Nevermind, because its sound is all over the place. The band sounds different on each song, like on an Amy Grant album, and Albini and Cobain shrewdly recognized that Cobain’s guitar-noise idiosyncrasies functioned as decorative baubles. And of course the drums are huge. If I were a braver ballpark organist I’d’ve played “Scentless Apprentice,” which is even catchier while being more or less atonal. But two people would’ve recognized it, so “Heart Shaped Box” will have to do. I’ll miss his wisdom, and I’ll miss imagining that I might bump into him somewhere.”
The Wrigley Field organist on Steve Albini.