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Hey guys. This came in Sunday, forgot to post it.

Carstie ClausenSun, Jun 16, 8:10 PM (2 days ago)
to me

 Could we call it a wake-up call? The loss of Harrison for a couple weeks (more on that later) must have had an amazing effect on those Giants hitters who were conjointly over the first couple games in this series, seriously out to lunch.  Personally, I was getting a bit enervated about Theiro, Wilmer and Soler…as Ramos was the only viable bat during games one and two.  Amongst others in that 9 run inning, those three vets put on a show, demonstrating that their recent slumptivities may have been nothing more than collective speed-bumps.  That three-run blast by Soler was exactly the kinda performance that upper management and ownership was expecting for their investment in that previously frustrated slugger.  Estrada and Flores have gone through ups and downs during these first months of the season…but not today.

 Bullpen blessings.  Amazing, Grace.  Only failure was by our CURRENT closer, Camilo Doval.  One more like that melt-down, where both command and control were fully questionable…particularly in the light of mounting the mound in a then 13-2 blowout. Should have been a piece of cake for our “drama queen”.  Been on his case for some bunch of while and am wondering whether one more disappointment in the near future will lead to a switcheroo, with him becoming the mop-up specialist in middle innings, ceding the status level to Ryan Walker, who promptly mowed down the two Angelos hitters to clean the slate on that 13-6 victory.  Unless Doval produces at his previous levels, he may well throw in a different capacity by the time of the Break…or even sooner.

 Double your pleasure, double your fun…that old jingle tells the tale of my long-held position that in more than half of all situations, doubles are devastating and can ultimately wreak far more damage than taters and dingers.  That fourth inning merry-go-round was proof of the pudding…guys continually driving in runners and concluding to haunt the pitcher…or new reliever…with a man in scoring position.  One of the recent callups does not have a massive power-stroke, but oh, them two-baggers.  My ideal lineup would include a high OBP, stolen base threat batting leadoff, followed by a pair of doubles threats, with some long-power always present in the tank. Then doubles hitters sprinkled with a speedster or two.

 Ramos, who curiously, though going two for five today, but neither scored a run, nor drove in one; reminds me of both Willie Mac and that #44 for the Braves, who but for Horace Stoneham not willing to spring for an extra fifty bucks, could have created a killer lineup featuring Mays, McCovey, Aaron and Cepeda.  Yeah, Ramos is transmuting into a monster.  Every indicator tells me that he’s not only a keeper but may become the heart of the order for S.F. for the next decade.  He earned his spurs toiling in the pipeline since his early arrival in 2017 as a Puerto Rican kid just outta high school.  Between Sactown and S.F., the dude has amassed SIXTEEN long-balls, a bevy of doubles and over 50 Rib-Eyes. Ramos keeps up his current pace and he could end up passing by veteran stars to appear as an opening outfielder in the All-Star game.  If he doesn’t at least make that squad; S.F. fans will have a huge bone to pick with the MLB movers and shakers.

 Kudos to the overnight callup from AAA.  What a story…an unranked, undrafted 29 Y.O. rookie, who previously pitched in FRANCE…Spencer Bivens’ three solid innings gave him the #1 thrill of his lifetime.  Judging from his stellar work for the River-Cats; Bivens may well possess the chops to stick within a gradually graduating and by today’s reckoning ,seriously improving bullpen.  The scouting and development people were totally on their toes with that signing.

 Back to Harrison’s rolled-ankle in the weight room.  Okay, the majority of American kids are sub-urbanites, who though heavily coached and living mostly comfortable lives right through their school years, do not happen to be the nimble and fool-ya strong bodied specimens which emerged from farm and small town backgrounds, up through the Fifties.

 Just two days ago, while reading one of my massive collection of old “Life” magazines, I came upon a 1939 feature story on Bob Feller.  Raised on a large Iowa farm, Feller, who set MLB records in strikeouts early in his career, not only got in plenty of physical work on the place, but also was so incredibly focused on baseball that he followed special dietary regimens, didn’t use tobacco  and only imbibed in a very occasional beer.  He was so fanatical about his priceless right arm that he referred to it as “IT”.  At least during the early part of his career, when Life described him as the outstanding pitcher in the game, Feller was a fanatic about keeping in shape both mentally and physically.  On the physical side he was not extraordinary.

 Consider all those injured players this year, all across MLB.  Thankfully for the integrity of the game, the LaBumbos “swipe” for the big buck$ from Boston and one of the top five star icons in sports media…just went on the I.L., probably for a longer period than Harrison’s situation.  Were I not 79.5 precisely today, I’d be tempted to establish a Skool of Country Livin at the homestead.  For young athletes needful for more organic and harmonious work-outs; my 6 to 8 hour daily activities at Echo Ridge could serve as a template for those kids.  It would include plenty of spade-work, mowing those nearly 3 up and down acres with a 22” push-mower, hefting rocks, wheelbarrowing soil, sand and gravel…and raking up the mowed grasses to add to the 40 foot compost heap.  All that, plus a Feller-like emphasis on real food and not the fast-food crappola which is certainly the rage throughout the Burbs.  Well-water instead of the fluoridated sick-water would also be on the agenda.  Even a couple of months performing real work, physical labor, eating as organically as possible and learning baseball lore…on a multi-year basis…would likely put a few doctors and physical therapists looking for work elsewhere.

 My little corner of the world included four farm-boys who achieved athletic fame from the 30’s into the early 60’s.  During the later 30’s the U. of Minnesota’s Gophers became known as the Golden Gophers.  One of their rawboned linemen, the best of a tough lot, Ed Widseth, was a first generation American son of a Norwegian family who grew up tall, husky and strong.  Into the 40’s, another Gonvick boy was the outstanding college wrestler, name of Clifton Gustafson, son of Swedish immigrants.  He would have been the #1 mat-man for the U.S. Olympic team in the 1940 Games.  Unfortunately, WWII interrupted that possibility.  Another Swedish athlete who ultimately married into the Bosch and Lomb enterprise in Rochester, New York, was the lanky but sturdy Arnie Johnson, also from Gonvick…actually a small-town rather than country kid.  Finally, we arrive at another Norskie farm-boy, Wes Westrum, who appeared on the first ever cover of Sports Illustrated as the Giants primary catcher during the late-40’s and through most of the Fifties. A high-school classmate of my mother, Westrum called the pitches for the 1954 World Champions.  In later years he scouted for the Giants and then had managerial years for both S.F. and the Braves.  He served as an insightful scout for the latter team for a number of years and in his retirement from organized ball, coached the Legion team for his hometown of Clearbrook, a scant four miles from Gonvick and maybe seven from Widseth’s closest, now a ghost town, Berner.

 Yeah, those farm raised boys ruled in all three of the major sports as well as in once quite popular college wrestling.  Heavy and strenuous physical labor made those kids into giants in their fields.  Some forward-thinking entrepreneur, perhaps a country born athlete himself, might get the bright idea of perhaps in the Ozarks establishing a baseball academy which stresses organic work along with fine points of our once and future National Pastime.

 Clearly, that massive outbreak of injuries in MLB, indicates that artificial exercise is not the proper way to create sturdy, yet flexible ballplayers.

 -stix

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  1. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:56 am

    “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way–in short, the period was so far like the present period that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.”

    . . . and so on and so on.

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:36 am

      “It was the age of Wisdom getting thrown out at home by Yaz.”

  2. James's avatar James said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:06 am

    Speaking in superlatives, Taylor Rogers may be having the greatest mop up man season in history. After Miller gave up his 6th bomb last night, I’m wondering if Melvin is reconsidering their roles.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:44 am

      Plagued by walks and bombs, Miller is. I hope you are right. Plenty of other more reliable options…also think Melvin could stretch some of them out for 2 innings at a time without hopefully upsetting someone’s psyche.

  3. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:34 am

    from yesterday morning: “Seriously, what self respecting closer walks around toting a 1.73 WHIP for the season? Only closer even sniffing that is Neris at 1.64 and he’s terrible.”

    and a few hours later we saw how terrible Neris can be.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:02 am

      Great call. Doval may have sorted himself out, at least for day back in normal role. did you hear Kruk go off on him from day before? Pretty harsh rant that Baggs talked about today in TA.

  4. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:47 am

    Wes Westrum, wow didn’t know background.

    The great Bobby Lee Bell was U of Minnesota graduate too. iirc like Jim Brown at Syracuse he was multi sport star. Turned 84 yesterday.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:02 am

      Westrum also succeeded Casey Stengel as Mets manager after Casey broke his hip in a fall leaving Toots Shor’s in ’65. Stix certainly knows that his lineup with both McCovey and Cepeda couldn’t work since they both could only play first. Anyway, how is this guy not a published author – he’s amazing. And we share a birthday – also in the year of the monkey…

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:03 am

        Pretty sure Eddie Mathews was the cover boy on the first SI…

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:06 am

        Shouldn’t have doubted Stix. Just checked the cover and it is Mathews swinging at the plate but I didn’t realize the catcher was Westrum. I apologize…

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:10 am
      • Winder's avatar Winder said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:24 pm

        They used to put both Cepeda and McCovey out in left field on occasion iirc. Mostly Cepeda.

  5. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:00 am

    Speaking of b-days Andres Galarraga is 63 today. Cool player awesome hitter and good glove man at 1b. Forever in Giants lore during brief time here.

    • bassbaldy's avatar bassbaldy said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:57 am

      I saw the Big Cat play many times @ the Big O during my years in Montréal. Easy guy to be a fan of, always a treat to watch him play.

  6. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:56 am

    HBD Andres Galarrraga!!💪🎉🥳🍻Man I dug the “Big Cat”Tremendous Power!

    That blast at Oracle onto the concourse right near the Coke Bottle in Left center easily the longest HR ever not named Bonds at the park.Estimated 475 it seemed longer he got both cheeks into that bad boy!

    He also hit one in Colorado upper deck that was measured at 580ft that several Rockies players jaws dropped saying that was the farthest HR rocket 🚀 they ever witnessed.And of course they changed the distance after realizing that would of broke Mickey Mantle’s 565ft shot and that couldn’t happen in baseball ⚾️

    So many Epic HR distances in baseball history will we ever really know the farthest bomb 💣 ever?

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:43 am

      We’ll never really know, Kat. Especially the ones that hit something before they could land like Mantle’s off the facade and Reggie’s off the tower in the ASG. Dick Allen had a bunch of 500 footers…

    • Winder's avatar Winder said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:30 pm

      The prettiest homer I ever saw live was a straight away center shot by Mike Schmidt it was just a towering shot. Next best one was by willie Stargell(sp).

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 18, 2024 at 3:34 pm

      I saw some great RH HRs by Kevin Mitchell but the Big Cat, man I wish we had him some years earlier, that dude could rake.

  7. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:21 am

    Halberstam tells story of how Red Sox burned Piper Davis, Mays player-manager of Black Barons. They signed him for $7500 to man who owned Black Barons with promise to pay additional $7500 if he was still in organization May 15. Half of that was to be split with Davis.

    Sox sent Davis down to Scranton where he was hitting .310 and playing every day, but cut him loose just before deadline. Manager told him, “It isn’t my doing. It’s orders.” Everyone knew at time Red Sox owner Tom Yawkey was very wealthy man but not cheapskate like Yanks owner George Weiss who always lowballed and threatened players. Yanks players at time really wanted WS money and won 5 WS in a row 1949-1953.

    Davis went on to play 5 years in Coast League for Oakland Oaks.

  8. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:38 am

    I’ve posted before that I was at the game when Galarraga hit the 490 HR. It was on a low pitch and he golfed it. It was in the direction of the big glove, and probably the closest anyone will ever get to hitting the big glove.

    It was the first game after the nine day break MLB had taken after 9/11 happened. The ballpark was thick with emotion. Pregame ceremonies included all of us in the stands being handed candles and lighting them from each other. Later an Oakland church choir sang the anthem.

  9. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:40 am

    Yeah Loo the one Reggie hit in A/S game off the light tower was still rising and wondering how far that bad boy would of ended up without hitting the structure it was clearly leaving Tiger Stadium.I was in awe as a 15 year old kid seeing that blast! That was one of the greatest A/S games EVER!So many Great HOF Players!!

    Dick Allen for sure many legendary bombs,Kingman on to Waverly Ave.,(Stargell at the Stick when he went upper deck thru the walkway to grab your beer& food it was majestic),the dude from the Senators,Elston Howard ??? Think Ruth hit one 575? But all these bombers were before stat cast measurements your guy Glenallen Hill with the Cubs off the Back facade in Wrigley easily would have been 500 plus.

  10. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:48 am

    Mantle’s distance of a 565 HR has been greatly challenged. The ball went over the ballpark wall of the opposing team’s ballpark, and was found in somebody’s yard. The 565 was just a rough estimation from where the ball was found. Being a round bouncy ball, it likely bounced down the street to the yard. At the time, the public accepted the 565 as truth because they wanted to believe that about Mantle.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:27 am

      my kids and I still laugh about the Cal football radio announcer who said: “because the ball is oblong…”

  11. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:59 am

    I was being entertained by Stix’s post until he slammed water fluoridation. I don’t get how intelligent people can believe conspiracy theory nonsense, but it happens throughout our nation on various issues.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:34 am

      do you think it’s fair to attack stix when he can’t access the blog to respond?

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:40 am

        If it’s in regard to something that’s conspiracy theory nonsense, then yes. His post is part of the worldwide web once BF posts it.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:57 am

        QED.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:15 pm

        Personally, I’m not too worried about fluoridated water, but dismissing all concerns about it as if they’re unfounded conspiracy fantasies is dim. From a Harvard pub:

        https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/fluoridated-drinking-water/

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:19 pm

        from the Harvard journal article:

        “Moreover, fluoride itself may be dangerous at high levels. Excessive fluoride causes fluorosis—changes in tooth enamel that range from barely noticeable white spots to staining and pitting. Fluoride can also become concentrated in bone—stimulating bone cell growth, altering the tissue’s structure, and weakening the skeleton.

        “Perhaps most worrisome is preliminary research in laboratory animals suggesting that high levels of fluoride may be toxic to brain and nerve cells. And human epidemiological studies have identified possible links to learning, memory, and cognition deficits, though most of these studies have focused on populations with fluoride exposures higher than those typically provided by U.S. water supplies.”

        hell, maybe you’ve ingested too much fluoride.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:29 pm

        Pretty much too much of anything is unhealthy.

        Fluoridation levels are calibrated very carefully. Improved dental health has done immeasurable good to society.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 1:30 pm

        you’re changing your argument now, as if the Harvard journal carries no weight and your dull, irrelevant cliches do.

        Here’s the real issue. Stix said nothing about conspiracies. You did. You cravenly shoehorned that mischaracterization into your unwarranted personal attack on him. The scientists in that journal article I linked refute your simplistic evasions now. You ain’t got squat.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 1:04 pm

      I always look for mouthwash with fluoride. Maybe it’s a mistake. I’m down to 23 teeth…

      • James's avatar James said, on June 18, 2024 at 3:46 pm

        “Deaths from dental abscesses today are so rare, that it is difficult to fathom that only 200 years ago, this was a leading cause of death. When the London (England) Bills of Mortality began listing the causes of death in the early 1600’s, “teeth” were continually listed as the fifth or sixth leading cause of death.”

  12. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:13 am

    I had never heard of WNBA player Dijonai Carrington until a few weeks ago. There are lots of folks like me who never watched WNBA games until this season and we’re checking it out, taking our measure of it. And some of the new fans have had some things to say. Carrington recently posted on Twitter criticism of new fans. Taurasi did a similar thing. Gee, such great ambassadors for the league.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:40 am

      She played at Stanford. All Pac 12 before Pandemic, then transferred out given extra year of eligibility.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:44 am

        And now she’s most famous for doing a mock impersonation of Clark after she fouled Clark. She believed Clark flopped. The video of Carrington mocking Clark went viral. Bummer for Carrington

  13. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:18 am

    Willie, I read Summer of ’49 many years ago. Great book!

    I’m a huge fan of his book about the 1950s. I have his book about the Korean War but haven’t read it yet. I read his very good book about the Vietnam War called Making of a Quagmire.

  14. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:18 am

    My bad Loo it was Frank Howard not Elston Howard I was thinking of..

    Another guy with tremendous long distance power!

    Man I loved the 60’s 70’s with so many tremendous HOF players!

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:29 am

      With less teams, it was very very competitive for roster spots on teams.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:59 pm

      Howard had a great nickname “Capital Punisher”…

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 2:23 pm

      per B/R Howard was traded to Senators by Dodgers in big deal that got them awesome Claude Osteen. Also involved was Dick Nen (dad of giants closer) as PTBNL. Mr. Nen btw still alive at age 86. So is Osteen who will be 85 in August.

  15. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:25 am

    A lot of the new fans criticism is about being perplexed at some of the veterans having such a crappy attitude about Clark.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:26 am

      WNBA fans, I was referring to.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:38 am

        I think it has something to do with the fact that CC Rider gets a $20 mill shoe deal having played zero minutes in the league and ‘star’ players like players Brittney Griner and plenty of others have to play overseas to make ends meet.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 11:49 am

        The problem for a player like Griner is she brings few fans to the WNBA. And she, in particular, probably drove some people away with her arrest in Russia, and the subsequent prisoner exchange.

        She does have a memoir out. I’d like read it eventually.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:57 pm

        Angel Reese is a jealous, racist piece of trash. There I said it…

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:58 pm

        So, it’s her fault? The whole point of her playing is Russia is she ain’t making enough in America.

        Smoking pot turns people away from the WNBA?

        Just go ahead and state the underlying reason.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 2:29 pm

        Loo, what I noticed watching Reese is her effective shooting range is about 2 feet with zero actual post moves. In Indy game vs. Clark she was 4-13 and had 3-12 game earlier. Gotta wonder what she was working on in college under Coach Kim Mulkey.

  16. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:00 pm

    Speaking of books, I recently finished listening to the audiobook of “An Unfinished Love Story,” by Doris Kearns Goodwin, a terrific and moving book about the 1960s. I knew nothing about Richard Goodwin’s contributions to progressive policies during the JFK and LBJ administrations, and Doris’ work with LBJ.

    A poignant but also fun book. I was sorry when the book ended.

    • Winder's avatar Winder said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:39 pm

      Johnson inherited a real mess but imo turned out to be a really good president.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:52 pm

        Was quite the shock when he bailed on re-election in late March ’68…

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:59 pm

        He sure pissed off the dixiecrats. And thus the Southern strategy was born.

      • Winder's avatar Winder said, on June 18, 2024 at 2:30 pm

        My guess would be that had he known the stuff Nixon would cause he might have changed his mind.

  17. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 12:18 pm

    “The Indiana Fever‘s 91-83 victory over the visiting Chicago Sky on Sunday was the WNBA’s most-watched game in 23 years, CBS announced Tuesday.

    The game featured 2024 first overall pick Caitlin Clark of the Fever and No. 7 overall pick Angel Reese of the Sky. The contest averaged 2.25 million viewers, a 225% increase over a comparable game window last season between the Phoenix Mercury and New York Liberty.”

  18. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    Xoot, I’m done ever interacting with you on the blog again. If you want to attack me, troll me, belittle me, criticize me, go for it, but I’m completely done with the Xoot show. Cheers.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 3:48 pm

      I’m glad to hear that.

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:28 pm

        Someone had to take over as pompous gasbag here!

        We’ll call you Oracle lite!

  19. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    Chuck, the Griner prisoner exchange was a bigger deal to some people than others. I’m generally OK with prisoner exchanges to free Americans, but some people thought the guy being exchanged for her was too high a price. But these people would think differently if she was one of their family members. People tend to change their tune on things when it affects them personally.

  20. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 18, 2024 at 3:39 pm

    Whenever Stix posts about where he lives, I always hope he mentions Mayslack’s Polka Lounge. That garlic roast beef sandwich is the thing that drools are made of.

  21. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    I’m sure glad I’m drinking tap water from Hetch Hetchy reservoir from pumped in from Yosemite into many San Francisco Bay Area cities! It’s rated superior to many other counties for sure it’s soft water as many folks say Hetch Hetchy on the rocks is great even used for cocktails..San Jose,The Valleys taste like rancid mud sewage,no comparison to Hetch Hetchy that doesn’t need water treatments..

    Oops I might of opened it up with Zumie on his mud water sorry 😞 Oh shit do we have à Xoot/Zumie Hatfield and McCoys fighting words brewing over Fluoride water, toothpaste?? Damm the resurrection of Twin is heating up from past arguments we all got into??

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:17 pm

      Kick around the same subject long enough, feathers bound to get ruffled

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:26 pm

        I went to high school with a kid named Ned Rufflefeather. Swear to God…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:30 pm

      Well, Xoot Allures seems to want to take the crown from dear old Twinfan as rankled bloviator.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:47 pm

        Oh, come on, Chuckles. You can do better than bloviate. You’re the guy who clumsily shoves in locutions like desultory, dearth and machination for no good reason. But at least they’re colorful. Word of the day calendar let you down?

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:04 pm

        Better? As usual you give yourself way too much credit. pithy or pissy, yer quite the orator.

        in your own muddled mind.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:30 pm

        You’re such a harmless little dolt. Look at you strain. I guess you’re what you’d charitably call a gamer.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:36 pm

      We used to jump off the bridge over the dam at Crystal Spring reservoir. You could see monster trout swimming around near the dam.

      Some of you may know the Pulgas water temple as well. It’s like a giant toilet that the Hetch Hetchy aqueduct ends and flows into Crystal Springs. I never did it but folks used to dive into the maelstrom and get shot down a 50 tube that led to the reservoir. Scary shit.

  22. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:53 pm

    Laura Britt went to school at UAB.

  23. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 4:55 pm

    Greetings from Wrigley! Flew into Chitown this morning, wandered around town with my Mets fan buddy, and just got to my seat. First time here. Also going tomorrow. Oh, and it’s hot as fuck!

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:00 pm

      What part of Wrigley Field are you two sitting at Mac? Any shade there? Regardless, have a blast!

      • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:02 pm

        Upper deck in shade, near a post but no obstruction.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:03 pm

        Nice! Glad you guys found some shade!

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:02 pm

      Atta way Mac. Have yourself a good time and a few cold Old Styles in the stands there.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:17 pm

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xqdj1TBOtU

      Cool drone video of Wrigley you can watch Mac when you have time. No freakin’ idea how that drone got into the bar.

  24. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:02 pm

    Many years ago my wife bought me two Birmingham Black Barons baseball caps, each has a different lettering style. I always wear one of them when I go to a baseball game. Any Flappers that I’ve met, I was wearing one of those caps; or in any photos at the ballpark with you folks.

  25. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 5:10 pm

    Great to hear Mac has no pillar in the way. A very cool baseball trip!.

    I was behind a pillar a couple of times at Candlestick. Total bummer. I think we moved secretly to other sections. Easier to do in a low attendance situation

  26. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:00 pm

    R.I.P. Say Hey…

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:03 pm

      Oh no!

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:06 pm

        Pawlie knows, Mac…

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:04 pm

      Nooo!

  27. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:01 pm

    say hey no more. RIP Willie Mays

    2 days short of Rickman Field.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:23 pm

      Dang. He posted message saying he wasn’t going to Rickwood game recently.

  28. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:02 pm

    Clutch Curt!

  29. xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:02 pm

    oh no. On the eve of Juneteenth and the cusp of the Rickwood game. The greatest ballplayer ever and the face of mlb. Always.

  30. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:03 pm

    Oh Fuck unbelievable Sadness and right before the game in Birmingham Willie Mays the say hey kid has died..Best damm ballplayer I ever saw as a kid along with McCovey&Marichal..

    Salute and a tip of the hat to the greatest ever to lace them up!!!RIP Willie 93 amazing life.

  31. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:15 pm

    Damn! First baseball hero for me. RIP Say Hey . . .

  32. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:16 pm

    Aaron Judge leaves game after getting HBP on the hand. Sounds familiar…

  33. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:18 pm

    I had an inkling Willie was in trouble when Flavor posted about him being in that home(?) the other day and was apparently getting visitors – apparently to say their goodbyes…

  34. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:19 pm

    https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/40382553

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:34 pm

      thanks Blade. nice footage, well done.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:43 pm

        Good memorial to him Willie. No idea how to cut and paste here anymore, where it can be accessed on Flav’s blog.

  35. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:27 pm

    They just showed the Willie news on the big video screen, then played the Say Hey song.

  36. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:30 pm

    There’s always been Willie Mays throughout our lives.

    When I was a kid, all of us kids playing baseball in pick-up games (those don’t exist anymore), anyone who made a catch with their back to homeplate (there was no homeplate), we called it a Willie Mays catch. How did we know? We likely hadn’t seen film footage or even photos of the ’54 catch yet, in the early ’70s. I think it must have been some older kids and some adults who told us about the catch. The lore was passed on in the neighborhood, as it was throughout the nation.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:47 pm

      Yep. Everyone in my neighborhood mimicked Willie Mays in one way or the other (usually the basket catch). Weird coincidence that you posted about the Birmingham Black Barons caps you wear and him passing, as I think by age 15 or 16, he already was playing for the Birmingham Black Barons of the Negro Leagues.

  37. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:51 pm

    Mac is seeing an outstanding pitching performance from Webb.

    • Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:56 pm

      Not so much from Ty. Rogers — again.

  38. xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:58 pm

    Bruce Jenkins on Twitter proposing that all players wear 24 Thursday night. Great idea.

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:05 pm

      Agreed.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:12 pm

        Someone should make a basket catch in his honor…

  39. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 6:58 pm

    But not an outstanding pitching performance by Tyler Rodgers unfortunately ..

  40. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:00 pm

    Sam & Dave

  41. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:02 pm

    Willie squirming in his coffin ⚰️ about Tyler Rodgers..

    Too soon?

  42. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:03 pm

    nice to see how well our relievers hold runners. Is there any part of this teams’ game that is fundamentally sound?

  43. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:07 pm

    14 fucking grounders this inning

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:10 pm

      Stop being a stupid ignoramus😄😄😄

  44. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:07 pm

    When Tyler Rogers sucks, he goes all in…

  45. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:11 pm

    i feel terrible for you older guys who loved Mays and watched him play. George loved him and watched him play in NY. I am hoping he’s getting a chance to welcome him right now……

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:15 pm

      McCovey should be first on that line. How many times was he waiting for Willie at home plate after a bomb?

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:27 pm

      Don’t feel bad, Flavor. He was 93 and he gave us geezers so much joy in our childhoods. He had a long and a great life…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:58 pm

        Exactly. Family started going to Stick early 60s, great time to see Mays and all other NL stars. Wasn’t lot of TV then but Giants-Dodgers away games were usually on, epic battles.

  46. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:13 pm

    Sure does Snarkk, it almost would of been better just to give up the leadoff HR, then watching how terrible it went after that with all the nickel& dime hits..

  47. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:14 pm

    I was very concerned when it was first announced that Willie would not last to see the Rickwood game. And, damn it, he just couldn’t hold off long enough to see it. They should have done this the year after the first Field of Dreams game. Anyway, woulda, shoulda. Mays was incomparable at his zenith. I hope the tribute to him this Thursday at Rickwood is fittingly enormous and classy…

  48. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:26 pm

    first game I ever attended was at wrigley in 1969. My uncle Chuck got tickets down the 1st base line and we got there early enough to hang out right near 1st and got to see all tue players stretching, hanging out and just getting ready for the game. Willie McCovey was larger than life and Willie was Willie. Simply the greatest. Seeing him in his element happy and smiling was a thrill. to see Billy Williams, Ernie Banks, Marichal, Fergie Jenkins, Jimmy Ray Hart and all the rest was something I’ll never forget.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:59 pm

      Very cool.

  49. xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:45 pm

    I got the Willie Mays blues. Had to turn away from the tv coverage. Wound up watching a documentary about the history and preparations of mole sauce in Mexico. One woman used forty ingredients. “The power of the pots will cleanse even the petty spirit,” she smiled.

    Good mole to all you mooks.

  50. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 18, 2024 at 7:54 pm

    Ken Griffey Jr was very sweet in his recollections of Willie. Great stuff.

  51. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:00 pm

    Pretty good obit for Willie.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/06/18/willie-mays-baseball-dead/

    I have to think that sometime next week they will have a big celebration of Willie at Oracle…

  52. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 18, 2024 at 8:02 pm

    At least one of Willie’s teams won tonight.

  53. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:00 pm

    Flowers out of respect for Willie Mays are starting to fill up his statue at Oracle!

    I really feel that baseball should retire #24 the GOAT permanently like they did with Jackie Robinson.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:04 pm

      let’s start with every player and coach wearing 24 Thursday night. Bruce Jenkins’s idea is great.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:09 pm

        I think removing a number across the board only has impact if once a year that number suddenly shows up on everyone’s back. Otherwise, it’s just gone.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:36 pm

        Then afterwards they can auction off the game worn unis for insane $ and donate 5% of the profits to Willie’s foundation…

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:43 pm

        or not. I don’t give a shit. Profit is theft. But the tribute Thursday night would be spectacular. Adios, cara de verga.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:01 pm

        Hard to imagine why your wife walked out on you about 15 years ago. I remember you crying about it on the Splash like the little pussy you are. Sweet dreams, scumbag…

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 19, 2024 at 11:07 am

        testy testy little wuss

  54. Winder's avatar Winder said, on June 18, 2024 at 9:56 pm

    Willie Mays will always be a hero to me. He gave me so much joy and when I sit back and remember he’s still giving it to me. For me this year has been full of broken hearts.

  55. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:09 pm

    I became a Giants fan early in the ’71 season, and Willie was still a good player at age 40. We’d take the numbers he put up that season on this year’s Giants in a split-second.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:11 pm

      Led the league in OBP…

  56. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:25 pm

    Willie’s 6th birthday present…

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:34 pm

      A few days ago was the 1 year anniversary of those millionaires trying to visit the wreckage of the Titanic in that crappy undersea craft. Like commercial dirigible flight, some things are just a bad idea.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:37 pm

        If you can get past the explosion and the flames it was actually a picture-perfect landing…

  57. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:42 pm

    Former Stanford star Cameron Brink suffered a very concerning knee injury in the LA Sparks game tonight. She’s one of the rookies helping to bring a lot more attention to the WNBA this season. Hopefully the injury isn’t too serious. I saw that Magic Johnson tweeted out best wishes to her. This would be a bummer for the WNBA if it’s a serious injury.

  58. Michael Dikas's avatar Michael Dikas said, on June 18, 2024 at 10:49 pm

    Webb is the new Cain…mostly ahead, wins given up by the bullpen…tragic…Tyler Rogers is not a Major League pitcher…he has personally give up 6-8 W’s per year…including tonight…hard to watch…

  59. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 19, 2024 at 7:59 am

    How’s your brother Biggus?


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