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Wisely!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 29, 2024

My dad’s favorite player is Brett Wisely. He loves him. I tried to talk him off that when he first said it a month or so ago but he waved me off and told me I didn’t know what I was talking about. The elder statesman was right again.

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  1. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:04 am

    my first comment last year about Wisely was that I thought he looked like a big leaguer and commented the same here this season. I think he is an every day player and looks like he is proving it. Maybe we should be looking if Estrada could bring back something before the trade deadline.

  2. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:30 am

    Me too Flav I love this guy. As Melvin said doesn’t matter where he hits in lineup he’s come through. When Estrada gets back he’s guy I want in there everyday at SS. Didn’t catch any of game til top 9th on radio and then bottom 9th at home on TV. As is I can live with Ahmed there; 14 groundball outs and 2 DPs for Webb. What a satisfying W!

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:47 am

    Loo thanks for Cepeda pics. big personality guy as was said on postgame. Disrespected by Dark in famous quote about lack of baseball knowledge by black and latin Giants, Mays quieted impending revolt and calmed everyone down. Cepeda loved SF music and dining scene, and didn’t have problem hitting at Stick or anywhere else.

    I knew friends coaching Little League in Sunnyvale, and one of player’s Moms knew Cepeda and he wound up doing free talk and clinic for kids. Can you imagine? Would any of these millionaires of today do something like that?

    Noticed something else in box: 2 outs in 5th after Dogs rookie SP( who had already allowed Matos HR and Wisely single) faced Soler for third time and gave up single (his only hit of night) Roberts yanks him with the 2-1 lead and Wade Jr. up. Analytics (rising OPS .726 to .784 third time through order) strikes again/manager doesn’t give flying F about meaningless stat of “pitcher wins.”

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:21 am

      Sure, Willie. The Cepeda trade for Sadecki was devastating to me but as lopsided as it turned out it it actually made sense to get a lefty starter to stick between Marichal and Perry at the time. Sadecki won 20 for ’64 champ Cardinals…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:51 am

        Oh yeah, and Mac and Cepeda was untenable situation–neither of these guys were OFs and poor Sadecki got all the heat.

        Great story in Chron regarding Tito Fuentes, who does Giants games for Spanish radio and couldn’t continue for awhile after hearing news. He talked about his time here with Cepeda. turned out day Tito went 5-5 Cepeda was in tears because he’d been traded to Cards.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 29, 2024 at 9:07 am

        Tito and Lanier are the only Giants still around from that day…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 9:47 am

        Thanks for box Loo, love those. 5 singles for Fuentes, Bob Barton threw out Brock at 2b. Tracy Stallard always gets a laugh.

  4. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:59 am

    Props to A’s for snapping 11 game road losing streak and 5 overall for comeback 9-4 W in AZ last night. They trailed 4-3 in 8th before scoring 3 in 8th and 3 more in 9th. A’s hit 4 HRs and 3 solo ones in 9th. Noticed around baseball 5 different teams won scoring 3 runs or less.

    Sure hope Giants can find some more pitching this weekend before day off Monday and road trip to ATL and Cleveland.

  5. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:15 am

    Imagine how fucked up this is that we are the worst at STOPPING stolen bases and we are the worst at STEALING bases. And it’s not even close they are last by a country mile.

    https://x.com/SportingGreenSF/status/1807067772699934884

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 10:01 am

      idk know man I get despair of watching other teams run bases but…Other than Fitz, none of Giants can run even among young guys; it’s how Zaidi put current team together and I don’t see a fix on horizon. Estrada has 1 steal, Ramos 1, Matos 0, Wisely 1. Lee only had 2. Luciano and Schmitt aren’t gonna steal bags either and Sabol stole 4 last year. Only guy in Sac with real wheels is McCray, who might be year away. Just not sure where they can play Fitz.

      On other hand everyone acknowledged they can do better job, from Bailey to Hicks Webb, coaches et al. My issue is Giants pitchers are 13th NL for hits allowed and 11th for walks–they let too many guys on base in first place. That Crow Armstrong guy is hitting .194 with OB of .246. he went 0-4 last night as Cubs lost again–he shouldn’t be on base to begin with.

      One other thing–the Reds lead NL in steals with 117 but they are 9th NL for runs scored and have scored 14 fewer runs than Giants.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 29, 2024 at 10:49 am

        last off season Zaidi said publicly that he was going to fix the stolen base problem. And, as you said, those are his guys. It is time to face the reality that Zaidi might not know what the fuck he is doing.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 11:42 am

        Sure and I wish they had guys that ran more. Conforto coming back and signing guys with power like Soler and Chapman isn’t going to do much for speed, though Chapman leads team with 7. HRs are going to help team score more runs than SBs, and they’ve hit few on homestand in past week.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 29, 2024 at 1:23 pm

        Despite Wisely getting picked off the night before last, the kid can run. I wouldn’t discourage him from running. I hope Melvin doesn’t give up on him.

  6. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:17 am
  7. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 29, 2024 at 1:13 pm

    That box score Loo shared is like going down a rabbit hole, e.g., my 3rd favorite player from the 60s and and 70s, after Mays and Speier, Tito Fuentas, whom almost always twirled his bat upon getting set in the box. He ended up #3 in ROY voting that year (look at his OBP through 25 games and what he ended up at through the end of the season . . . hint – it went down quite a ways).

    Lindy McDaniel, was another outstanding Giant that no one knows jack about today, other than a few Flappers here. Over a four-game span, McDaniel retired 32 straight hitters in 1968 or ’69. He had at least 170 saves, with about 150 wins. Giants traded him to the Yankees in 1968 and I consider that one of their biggest blunders, as he rejuventated his career with the Yankees, particularly in 1970.

    Jim Ray Hart, another favorite of mine, had an outstanding year that season, the next to last of his 20 plus bomb seasons (total of 5 such seasons, including 2 with 30 plus HRs).

    What else? Look at the Giants record after 25 games, where they were out of the “starting gate” like a championship thoroughbred, 18-7. I could go on, but you get my drift. Another golden age for Giants baseball. Thanks for sharing Loo.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 29, 2024 at 2:55 pm

      I’m really not such a terrible person…

  8. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:19 pm

    pen game?

    Matos is a bit squirrelly out in RF.

  9. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:23 pm

    Easy double!

  10. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:23 pm

    Soler gets er started.

  11. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:25 pm

    huh nice

  12. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:38 pm

    duuuuuh what the actual fuck chappie?

  13. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:38 pm

    That was brutal. Stealing 3b, ya just gotta make it.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:46 pm

      What’s the fucking point in even trying?

      no outs. Fucki g stupid.

      you KNOW we give up 2-3 here.

  14. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:43 pm

    2 doubles, 0 runs.

  15. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:50 pm

    I don’t give a shit what the situation is his next time up, he gets plunked.

  16. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 4:58 pm

    Soler great hit, bad base running.

  17. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:01 pm

    fuck me

    are these guys retarded?

  18. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:04 pm

    Dodgers getting nervous. Beat LA.

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:05 pm

    wisely! Redemption for stupidity.

  20. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:06 pm

    now we’re talking…

  21. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:06 pm

    Break the Glas(s)now.

  22. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:12 pm

    Fun inning .

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:14 pm

      Nice grab by Matos. Howard not exactly fooling guys; D is gonna have to make plays.

  23. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:13 pm

    Hell of a catch by Matos.

  24. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:21 pm

    I thought that was a pretty good throw by Matos.

  25. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:22 pm

    love these pen games

  26. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:27 pm

    Valiant effort but kid didn’t strike out any of 16 batters he faced.

    Nothing wrong with walking Ohtani but you could have sent him to 1b with one to the hip.

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:31 pm

      “you could have sent him to 1b with one to the hip.” Exactly, make em pay.

  27. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:29 pm

    fuck. Doinks

    are killing us.

  28. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:33 pm

    Tough one hop by Matos throw kinda ate up Bailey.Otherwise a throw all the way and the runner was dead meat !

    Geez now the wheels are falling off 6-5! This game has a lot more fireworks in it though in only the 4th inning..

  29. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:39 pm

    good to see everyone sucking out of the pen.

  30. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:47 pm

    Nice inning from Rodriguez. Just need a couple more.

    Giants put wood to Dogs pen last night, gonna have to do it again.

  31. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:54 pm

    Fuck John Smoltz ripping the Stadium and Giants fans!

    Do you know why this stadium is the coldest in baseball?

    No why says the other Announcer?

    Cause it’s filled with Giants fan! WTF what a doucebag..

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:00 pm

      lighten up, Francis. How is that a diss? It’s a dumb joke

      • alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:13 pm

        For play by play guys that are suppose to be somewhat impartial I didn’t care for it and I would blow up your drill sergeant with psycho throwing the hand grenade at Smoltz..

  32. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 5:57 pm

    Doink for a doink.

  33. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:17 pm

    Great AB from Wade Jr. off lefty.

  34. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:36 pm

    Yeah Walker Ks them both.

  35. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:41 pm

    Here we are in just the 7th inning, but it sure feels like the second game of a double header.

  36. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:46 pm

    Slater has that base stolen 3 yimes

    but we

    swung at shit

  37. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:49 pm

    Ballgame

    why is this mitherfucker still in th e team?????

  38. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:50 pm

    oh wait. 97. That’s walker not Jackson.

  39. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:53 pm

    oh joy.

  40. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 6:54 pm

    baby!!!

  41. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:13 pm

    That’s why he throws the slider. It’s 88 and he K’d Ohtani and Teo with it. As long as he keeps it down. And Pages !

  42. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:24 pm

    Extras, here we go.

  43. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:30 pm

    big fly plz

  44. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:36 pm

    Villar for the tie!!

  45. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:37 pm

    Villar comes through !

  46. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:37 pm

    Tied up, come on Late Night.

  47. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:38 pm

    Come on Ramos, put them down.

  48. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:40 pm

    Bases loaded, Come on Bailey.

  49. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:40 pm

    that hit his foot

  50. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:43 pm

    pfffffffffft

  51. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:43 pm

    Fuck Bailey, fuck Chapman.

  52. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:43 pm

    Goddamn this is frustrating.

  53. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:47 pm

    double pffffffft

  54. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:48 pm

    These guys are really hit or miss in the OF. weeeeeeeeeee!

  55. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:48 pm

    Fuckin handed it to em…

  56. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:49 pm

    Yep. Baserunni g 101 would be. A start

  57. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:50 pm

    Again, fuck Bailey and fuck Chapman.

    • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:51 pm

      Oh, and fuck Manfred and his piece of shit ghost runner.

  58. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:54 pm

    woooooooooooo!!!!!!!

    my kingdom for an out.

  59. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:54 pm

    I’d be throwing at guys now

  60. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:54 pm

    This is getting very stupid.

  61. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:55 pm

    An out!!!!

  62. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:57 pm

    tragic how many dodger fans there are. Disgusting.

    Larry Baer and Greggie are happy tho.

  63. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:59 pm

    good old fashioned 4 hour game.

  64. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 29, 2024 at 7:59 pm

    Think even the Ghost runner scored twice?

    Such an embarrassment the Giants couldn’t get it done last inning ..

  65. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:00 pm

    and we get another pen game tomorrow. This shit is just depressing.

  66. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 29, 2024 at 8:02 pm

    What a fucked up game. I forgot to say fuck you FOX.


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