Farhan Fails Again
Zaidi dumping Soler and Jackson for cash is so typical. He doesn’t have the first clue how to trade at the deadline. Now here comes the ol’ “we don’t know what he was offered” bullshit. How is it that every single deadline he does shit and we just fall back on that lame excuse? Other GM’s seem to be able to make exciting trades. Why not this fuck?
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You were right Flav–Cobb will never pitch for Giants this season. Off to Guards.
Reading & listening to the pundits and the universal opinion is this was a good trade for the braves. “He took a little while to get adjusted to SF and the west coast but over the last 2 weeks slugging over 1000%. Braves were in desperate need of an OF and gave up a injured pitcher and a low level guy not labeled a prospect by the Braves” GRR
In other words a salary dump of Farhan mistakes that very likely do nothing to improve the team now or in future…
Flav mic drop . . . Agree 100%. By the way, is this fuck, Zaidi out of time? 3pm Eastern time, is trade deadline, right?
Reports are Giants just traded Cobb to the Indians. A great sell low for the Giants. Grr again
Hopefully we got something useful. Not holding my breath.
Minor league starter 2.7 era with 69 K’s in 54 IP’s in minors. 19 yo Maybe good…
OK. I’m thinking this is good. Keeps Birdsong in the rotation
Cobb was never going to pitch here again any way it’s an easy move to get rid of more useless players.Birdsong absolutely needs to move into this rotation. Yeah screw Farhan he’s never been in to ANY significant trades at the deadline unless you think Kris Bryant was which of course didn’t pan out either as a rental..
Morocco Mole needs to go He’s not an aggressive GM at all and he proves it, in 6 years of BS futility.All he does is dump bottom feeders which he brought in for payroll instead of going after a legit bat.So sick of this cartoon character..
3 PM our time is trade deadline iirc. Orioles just added the other Rogers (Trevor) SP from Marlins, so Snell ain’t going there for prospects.
Thanks Willie.
The Clark-less effect:
Of all the first round Olympic women’s basketball games, the US game was by far the lowest attended, only drawing about 1/2 the number of the highest attended games. The game wasn’t even broadcast on NBC, but appeared on alternate platforms. I watched it on the USA network.
Speaking of Clark, she’s having a good time at a Mexican beach resort, having a nice vacation.
You dating her?
Which she needs. Ionescu looked great hitting 3-7 3s and moving ball. Hopefully CC fans can chill and enjoy Olympics.
I will say this.
If Farhan does not trade Snell now, and the most likely scenario happens of Giants miss the post season and Snell walks with nothing in return to SF, Farhan should be fired as a failed GM. He still has an hour and a half to get it done. I don’t care what we don’t know is being offered him, we’re not paid like he is to evaluate offers. That’s a lame excuse for inaction. He’s paid to make deals to improve the team, not just to fix his mistakes. If we DID know, maybe the outrage would be even stronger because of the deals he rejected…
Birdsong fell into the Giants lap as being ready to pitch at the MLB level now, way earlier and way better than they expected. That’s the plus. So, Cobb had to go to get Birdie into the rotation, and of course the Giants get squat for Cobb in return because he hasn’t done dick this season to prove himself. Without a Snell trade, I can hardly wait for ESPN to rate all 30 teams for their deadline trade activity…
Gaaaaaaah. Don’t mind the salary dump if it means we do something like trade for Vladdy Jr.
Otherwise, it’s just moving deck chairs around and correcting mistakes. Funny thing is, Soler finally looked like he was getting comfortable here.
So, we got an injured pitcher, Atl’s 17th ranked IFer prospect, and a low-rated 19 year old kid for 2 starters.
Looks like the Marco Luciano experiment at 2B start’s tonight as he’s slotted in to start 2B and hit 7th..
A Jimmer Fredette sighting?! Who’da thunk it! He was an epic fail in the NBA (drafted by the Kings, yikes), but he’s a member of the US men’s 3×3 basketball team. Yes, half-court basketball is an Olympic event. The full roster is four players:
Jimmer Fredette, Dylan Travis, Kareem Maddox, and Canyon Barry.
Who? Is that a Rick Barry son in there?
They’ve won world championship tourneys together, while also maintaining day jobs.
I bet it’s more exciting that the WNBA!
Definitely would be more exciting then seeing Catlin Clark suntanning in Mexico..
The white shadow 2.0.
Trade Conforto, Harrison, Wilbur and all the garbage we just got to get Vladdy. Fuck, I’ll throw in Doval.
Deep breaths. Vlad Jr. ain’t happening, as jays have said repeatedly.
Angels announced that they have acquired Mike Baumann for cash considerations. In effect, a big “nothing burger,” as Baumann had already bounced to the Mariners, Giants and now Angels in small trades after DFAs.
Huge deal …
9 minutes to go to Snellzero…
Jack Flaherty to the Dodgers. GRR
And Best left handed reliever Tanner Scott to Padres as Farhan just dumps shitty contracts he created as Dogpile&Padres improve more with GM’s that get things done..
At home watching hours of MLB network. I think every team close acquired someone except us. Even the Pirates traded for a few guys!
Who were they going to use to buy with that would help them right now, or even in immediate future?
What really chaps my hide is we sent down Birdland to open a spot on the roster for fucking Baumann.
Such earth-shattering deals ought not be done too often.
Sigh. No idea why fans get so bent over churn stuff like this. Birds was able to pitch over the weekend and Giants won. He can be called back up to start game this weekend on road trip.
They got a look at Bauman, didn’t like what they saw, dumped him off and Angels picked him up. No harm no foul. He didn’t cost them a game or anything and he’s outta here.
Unless Z can get someone to help immediately, as in within a year, nothing wrong with holding onto Snell. If teams don’t want to pony up appropriate value for top end SP, their problem/their loss. He’s been great lately but non factor, in fact negative one, for first 3 months when they were shorthanded with other injuries and down to 1.5 SPs. Let him go test FA all over again if that’s what he wants.
I’d be fine watching him atop rotation for rest of the season. giants appear dang near set for next year without him and don’t have to pay him (beyond bonus already agreed upon) next year and beyond.
Well, we certainly didn’t do that. All we did was dump salary and get some guys who will never sniff a cup of coffee. The Braves and Gaurdicles got better off our deals.
Like I said, i don’t mind the salary dump is if leads to something but alas it led to nothing.
The king is dead. long live the king.
Are we past the trade deadline yet? Are enough hides chapped and pearls clutched?
Giants get Mark Canha from Detroit…
So, he replaces Soler? This is an improvement with 7 HRs and OPS of .687 in 320 ABs?
Looks like this means they DFA Wilmer.
This acquisition moves the offensive needle about 1 micron…
1st words out of the mouths of the guys at the MLB show desk. “I don’t know what the Giants are doing?”
If your in it this year you keep Soler right? Cahna costs the same and isn’t the hitter Soler is with way less upside” nailed it!
Time for Farhan to go!!!
I don’t get it. I guess MLB network doesn’t either.
And, no, I don’t think Farhan is playing 4D chess here. Unless there’s another deal yet to be released, he’s playing change the deck chairs, in between playing with himself.
SOOO annoyed right now
Eric Silva? Cy Young 2029.
I wanted a 1st baseman, but Canha? 35 years old? Wow. Such an upgrade.
Willedav I’m happy we kept Snell. But getting Cahna makes the Soler trade stupid. Money for this year very similar. If you want to get out of next 2 years trade him later
Are we trading Wade? Oh, too late.
The women’s gold medal rugby match was good fun. Not a shock that New Zealand was the winning team.
I understand almost nothing about rugby, but I can see now where the word “touchdown” came from. In rugby the player crossing the goal line has to touch the ball to the ground for the goal to be scored.
So if I recall correctly, because Snell rejected a qualifying offer from the Padres, the Giants lost their third-round Draft pick in 2024, as well as $500,000 from their international bonus pool. Note: San Francisco had already forfeited its second-round pick after signing Matt Chapman, who also declined a qualifying offer.
Coupled with the aforementioned – as snarkk noted – we will likely lose Snell next season due to the opt out he has. Consequently, he is essentially a 1/3 season rental for $32 million. Zaidi better get that wild card spot!
I guess the attitude of Zaidi is that “He Wants His Cake and Eat It Too”*
*Meaning: This idiom means someone wants to have two incompatible things at the same time. It implies greed or unrealistic expectations.
canha rakes at Oracle. Don’t hate the move
He better rake. Because otherwise Farhan gets a D for the trade deadline. All he’s done is salary dump, and improved or acquired nothing of substance for this season or next.
I do. You know Soler goes on a tear in Atl. He was just starting to get going. Luciano better hit the fuck out of shit starting now.
Cobb I could give a shit about. But again the trade of him did us no good.
Yeah, Soler will probably rake now in Atlanta. Comfort zone with former team, hitters park, warm weather. He’s going to go crazy at the plate.
Tomorrow we will hear about the ‘we almost got Vladdy’ trade that didn’t happen.
“we had many irons in the fire . . .” blah blah blah.
Yep. “We considered trading Snell but nobody came up with a good enough offer.”
Canha, since May 1, hitting .211 in 64 games. However, he’s one year removed from posting a 108 OPS+ year with a .262/.355/.400 slash line. If the Giants can get that type of production out of him, it will work out with him in the lineup. “If” being the operative word.
As far as I can tell, Canha’s deal expires end of this season…
Yes
Just confirms that for this trade deadline, NOTHING of known substance for the FUTURE of the organization was obtained. Nothing. In aggregate, all the machinations turn into a salary dump of Soler and Jackson. Helps get to the “breaking even” goal…
So the whole trade deadline I’m so excited that it came down to Mark Canha /AJ Pollock 2.0 just get the juices flowing adding a 35 year old.2 years at the trade deadline and this is all they can do??Hell Pollock stunk so bad he’s now out of baseball as a coach.Canha I guess can play some Outfield/1B as Wilmer’s days are numbered.
AZ last year rebuilt their starting rotation at the deadline and rode it close to the chip.
SD is going all-in on pitching for their push.
What did we do?
Squadoosh. Fucking Soler is better than Canha by any measure, even with Soler’s power outage the first 3 months. So naturally we get the hose from ATL saying “thanks for warming our guy up.”
I bet those Canha jerseys are flying off the shelves.
This is why Zaidi was ONLY able to do these piss ant moves. He got fucked (again), by these complicated 2 year contracts, with an opt out. No one in their right mind is going to do a trade like that straight up, without being given compensation. The Giants are certainly getting upside with short-term deals, but they almost always work out better for the players, who can chase huge contracts if they succeed or just stay with the Giants if they do not.
With a bottom 1/3 farm system, the Giants always have no leverage with FAs and Farrhan seeks to fill positions that he should be filling from the farm. So, he ends up getting reamed by the FA’s agents in these one-way opt out deals — its heads I win, tails you lose.
Blade..I’m one year removed of seeing the same BS out of the Giants at the deadline!
2 years now at this time Z trades for Pollock, some other reject 2B Matthias? Both done.Now Canha excuse me if it doesn’t do squat shit for me moving the needle..
AK, read this SI column from September 2023 . . . I think it explains 3 things: 1. Why the Giants have turned into cheap bastards since Greg Johnson took control from his father; 2. The abundance of 2-3 year, opt out contracts; and, 3. The probability that Z does not piss, much less shit, without Johnson Jr. saying okay (same goes for signing long term contracts).
https://www.si.com/mlb/giants/news/sf-giants-farhan-zaidi-hints-payroll-restrictions-greg-johnson
SHIT! Thanks for posting Blade (I think)
I actually did a search for how many 2 or 3 year contracts with opt outs Zaidi has done since he’s been here and that column came up too. I think I recall reading it when it came out, but forgot about it until I did the search today.
If only Baer didn’t act like a dick and hit his wife….
Even Mets announcer just now questioning Giants moves, mainly replacing Soler with Canha, and wondering whether Giants are all in.
Canha gets hit a bunch, has 11 HBP this season tied for 8th with seven others, led MLB at 27 HBP in ’21 with A’s and 28 HBP in ’22 with Mets.
Ron Hunt would’ve come cheaper…
lulz… Sure wish I woulda kept that ol’ Ron Hunt glove, my first of so many….
We had Ken Hunt, right?
Oh shit… now I’m not so sure. Thought Ron but maybe Ken. Unfortunately, I will probably not be able to recall now…..
Ron.
Chuck, Paul and I were talking about the Ken Hunt model gloves we had when we were kids. Not the Ron Hunt who played for the Giants…
You are right, good sir, it was Ken Hunt!
These deadline “moves” were all just housekeeping moves. The kind of moves a team makes at the end of spring training to fill a couple small holes or jettison non-contributors. Nothing that makes the team better short-term or long-term. At a time when the team is still “in it”, especially with the starting rotation looking strong, the FO steps up and… apparently thinks that a little housekeeping was all that was needed. Can’t believe all that’s left to talk about is Canha. I’ll give Z credit for getting the rotation into shape, but he has fucked this team from top to bottom for too long. No pearls-clutching here, just head-shaking disgust with ownership and FO.
This is disgusting what they did. What a joke. Arozarena would have been a nice piece.
Keep foooling the fans to keep them interested with the shuffling of turds.
I am already looking forward to next year.
Niners!!
Damn! This guy Butler has been hot lately.
Good looking player is Butler 12 bombs now 35RBI’s 810 OPS..
Also Andujar I like former Yankee prospect..
Yeah AK, I was reading about this cat just before his bomb. Developing quite well . . . One of the bright spots for the A’s.
DisarRay.
Fuck. Game over man! Game over! . . . In the famous words of Bill Hudson. G’Nite.
Geez Melvin had to push the envelope to past the limit on Ray wtf, his tank was empty and now it’s 4-0 on 3 bombs allowed what was their to prove especially with the right hand slugger Rooker who’s been on fire this month..Melvin just doesn’t get it…
You can tell how thrilled this team is by the flurry of activity at the trade deadline.
FUck Farhan.
Fuck Melvin as well they should of hired both GM Kim NG and she hires Stephen Vogt the having another season with these dinosaurs..
This pitcher for the A’s has Seared 🥩🔥the Giants all night 8 K’s 3 straight in total command..
As if the game wasn’t bad enough we get the horrid Sweet Caroline bar commercial. The commercial that will survive the apocalypse.
What a dispiriting day: Nothing done to improve the team, then dominated every which way by the A’s.
You hear a lot of “play the kids” some years, but then when “the kids” play and have their struggles, then there’s more angst. I would say they’re playing the kids. That can’t be the complaint, at least.
Except the last AB when Wade pinch-hit for Luciano. Let the kid hit for Chrissakes.
Just like in most organizations it starts at the top. I think our FO is deficient. We seem to go nowhere. Like a lot of people here have said this year is far more entertaining than the last couple and that’s because we are playing the youngsters. But even the kids need to play good since this is the top level.
Augh. Feels like the next 2 games are must wins…
Interesting article in the Athletic this morning. It basically say’s that both Atlanta and the Guards were losers in the trades, and the Giants were just snoozers.
Atlanta Braves
Overcome by injuries, the Braves have started to run out of steam. A sizable advantage in the wild-card race has shrunk. The once-fearsome offense looks much tamer these days. So the team opted to reunite with Jorge Soler and Luke Jackson, part of the midsummer infusion of talent that buoyed the club to a World Series in 2021. It’s a charming idea. But now Soler is under contract for two more seasons. He has not played the field this season. Neither has the team’s current designated hitter, Marcell Ozuna. Soler’s value tends to diminish when he plays the outfield. The Braves were willing to risk it. We’ll see how it goes. — AM
San Francisco Giants
The Giants’ biggest acquisition at the deadline? That’s right, financial flexibility and internal improvements. Not a bad thing. They opened their DH spot for Marco Luciano, and they opened up payroll for someone who would fit the roster better than Jorge Soler would have. They have a five-man rotation they’re comfortable with, so they traded a starter (who hadn’t thrown a pitch this season) away for a teenage raffle ticket.They also traded away a young pitcher to get help, although Mark Canha has crossed over from “pretty good” to “won’t kill you” on the usefulness spectrum. He’ll play first against left-handers, a sign that Wilmer Flores’ knee injury might be worse than expected (or that the Giants will move on).
Still, they had the best starting pitcher available, at least in Theory Land, and there was a chance they were going to get a top-100 prospect. They did not. — GB
Soler will be batting lead-off for the Braves.