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Sink Or Swim?

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 30, 2024

It appears the answer is to sink, gents. Tough year.

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  1. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:40 am

    The future ain’t looking so bright either.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:22 am

      It’s uncertain and the end is always near…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:36 am

        Ha, yeah that tune came to mind. Great cut!

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2024 at 12:05 pm

        I did wake up this morning and get myself a beer.

  2. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:53 am

    Thought Brisbee in TA had some good ideas for rest of season with eye to 2025.

    Let Luciano and McCray hit every day vs. LHP or RHP.

    Loosen up pen roles to save overworked guys

    Make Chapman an offer he can’t refuse, now.

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:57 am

    Glad college football is back and NFL soon.

    Stanford hosts TCU tonight, and something has to give. Cards went 0-7 at home last season while picking up 3 Ws on road including OT thriller over Neon Deion and sons. Frogs are coached by Sonny Dykes, who went 0-4 vs. Stanford as Bears coach during Goff era when scoring 45 sometimes wasn’t enough.

  4. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:08 am

    I think Aiyuk won the salary contest vs. Niners.

    Why the team waited so long seems weird. All that did was allow the rest of the WRs in the league run up the salary comp for Aiyuk. At least he’s good and should be a key asset this year…

  5. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:29 am

    Jesus the Gaudreau brothers๐Ÿ˜”๐Ÿ˜”

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2024 at 10:26 am

      Fucking drunk drivers. Driver said he drank “5 or 6 beers” prior to the accident. Bet it was much more.

  6. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:41 am

    I guess my 84 win prediction for this year was somewhat optimistic. 2024, on the road to .500.

    Like Willie, I too thought Grant Brisbee made some good points in his current article. Sure, sign Chapman (although, is it just me, or does he seem to K every time he gets 2 strikes?) and let the 2025 auditions begin. One thing I do think the Giants need for next year, and I kind of touched on it at the start of this year, we need another solid catcher, possibly more of a platoon type one. Bailey’s defense is great, but he seems to wear down by the AS break.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 10:16 am

      Baseball players in general are probably the worst conditioned pro athletes at least in the major sports…

      • Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 30, 2024 at 12:15 pm

        Mark Portugal comes to mind. After we got him, I remember him saying something about his locker getting moved closer to the door because he smoked. Which he thought was nuts because it was closer to the doughnut table.

      • Winder's avatar Winder said, on August 30, 2024 at 12:36 pm

        And here i thought it was just corn nuts and sunflower seeds. A donut table is what I would have wanted.

  7. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 30, 2024 at 12:51 pm

    Yeah, the Giants have been……kind of forgettable this season. Years from now, what will we remember of this season? What do we remember of the 2008 season? The 1996 season? This season, Ramos making the All Star game, and me not having to read “the Giants haven’t drafted and developed an All Star outfielder since Chili Davis” anymore is an awesome thing. Much gratitude to you, Ramos!

    My sports summer was saved by Clark and the Indy Fever. Just a really fun story all summer. Her team has a playoff spot just about locked up, barring total collapse of the team. This past week saw Indy wins over the Minnesota Lynx and the Phoenix Mercury, two teams that were beating Indy earlier in the season. Tonight, it’s Indy vs. the Chicago Sky, the last regular season match-up between Clark and Reese. The Sky has fallen (see what I did there?) on hard times, losing about four or five in a row, and trying to hang onto the eighth and final playoff spot. So I got the Fever/Sky game at 4:30 on the Ion network tonight, and the Giants at 7:00. That is a cool night of sports viewing, even with my low expectations for the Giants lately. Sports is entertainment. Am I not entertained?!

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:34 pm

      Read something to the effect that Angel’s impressive offensive rebound totals are heavily inflated by her very own missed lay ups…

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 2:17 pm

        Lack of range is little odd. Recent game she missed 5 of 8 FTs.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:45 pm

      Angel baby has a deal to endorse Reese’s pieces, so why not see if Caitlyn can revive the old Clark bar?

      Anyone old enough to remember the frozen Milky Way craze that swept the nation in the mid ’60’s?

  8. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:03 pm

    I admire the sheer mental strength of anyone that can listen to a Bob Melvin pregame or postgame press conference. Maybe he shows more personality in the clubhouse, because, man, he comes across as a really bland character. At least Bochy could work in a wisecrack once in a while.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2024 at 2:27 pm

      Why I cann him fence post. He has the charisma of a 4×4.

  9. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:08 pm

    Regarding coaching personalities, I’m not a fan, though, of the Fever coach’s sideline style. She’s one of those ‘jump up and down like their hair’s on fire’ types. She could relax a bit. The players can’t possibly see and hear all the jumping up and down and screaming she does. A lot of the other WNBA coaches are way more composed on the sideline. The jumping up and down, yelling, stuff has a bit of “hey, look at me, look at me coaching” to it.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:13 pm

      When she starts throwing folding metal chairs a la Bobby Knight, we should all worry (particularly fans sitting courtside).

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:26 pm

        My high school varsity basketball coach, unfortunately, was a Knight-type, to a degree. A yeller and a thrower of things, and relentlessly negative. The saddest thing is that he took all of the fun out of playing on the team. He got fired a few years later. I met him again later in life, and we had an OK conversation, but I could tell he really didn’t remember much of what he was like as a coach in those days. It was a different era in those days. It was the ending of that era when coaches could get away with all that stuff. Nowadays, a single Knight incident can get a coach fired in youth basketball.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2024 at 2:03 pm

        Via the government job I had at the time, I went to Indiana University for a semester in 1981 (I think), i.e., it was 1 of 4 or 5 Final 4 tournaments he took the Hoosiers to. What an “anal” backwards place Bloomington was back then. Dump trucks were painted like basketballs and Knight could do no wrong. Every single day there were multiple news stories in the local paper and TV news about Knight and/or the Hoosiers.

        Great campus though. Quite an experience, particularly the first day, where another government employee and I visited a grocery store to buy 2 six packs of beer. Everyone was looking at us like we were crazy. I thought it was my 49ers jacket, but no that wasn’t it . . . Turns out Bloomington (and maybe the entire State and midwest???) was a “blue law” city, i.e., no liquor sales on Sunday. Whoops . . . Man, that was embarrassing. lol

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on September 3, 2024 at 10:20 am

        Yep. Like the 3.2 beer they sell in Colo on Sundays. My first weekend there I bought 2 12 packs for the Niner game and was like, what’s wrong with this beer?

        Funny thing was, even though 49er games were scheduled to show, the local station would switch to the broncos game anyway despite being on a different channel.

        Luckily we found a bar in town (Aspen) Little Annies, that showed Niner games.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 2:23 pm

      even though I spent 3 years as a 4th guard, HS Coach I had as senior was a riot to play for and still is funny as hell at 83. By end of his career he moved to Girl’s varsity. I told this story recently to friend of mine whose kid is on middle school: One day one of the girls came to school with love bites showing. so that afternoon at practice Coach (who was on campus teacher) put in OB play he named “hickey.”

      so during game he would stand up and yell “run hickey. Hickey!” when they had ball OB under basket. bench kids loved it

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 5:05 pm

        Heโ€™d get fired and sued for that today. Funโ€™s overโ€ฆ

  10. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on August 30, 2024 at 1:19 pm

    The Fever coach blundered recently when she left the starters in too long when the Fever were blowing out another team, and the other coach had emptied the bench. The other coach walked down the sideline and got in her grill about it. In basketball, especially, there is a point at which a coach needs to call off the dogs, and it is NOT appreciated when a coach doesn’t call off the dogs. Tempers can spike. All coaches are going to get blown out at some point. You appreciate when the other coach shows mercy when the game result has already been decided. What goes around comes around, especially in basketball coaching.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 2:58 pm

      Yeah that’s BS. Fav tactic of local private HS I’ve watched. They don’t feel any compunction about beating people by 70 or continuing to shoot 3s up 35.

      Give Indy credit for knocking off Connecticut the other night, good game. Best thing to happen to Clark was vacation and time to chill during Olympics, take deep breath and relax for first time since last year college season began.

  11. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 4:12 pm

    August 30 1924 born day of trumpeter Kenny dorham who passed in 1972. Recorded ton of great music over the years, particularly with Joe Henderson on dates both led for Blue Note. Don Sickler made an entire tribute CD of his tunes in 1983 with Jimmy Heath Cedar Walton Ron Carter and Billy Higgins for Reservoir Music.

  12. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2024 at 6:01 pm

    Estrada to the RiverRats. Wisely called up.

    Wow. This team may end up 75 – 87 looking at the sched.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 30, 2024 at 6:48 pm

      Wisely, idk. He started off OK and then over last 2 months hardly hit at all. He’s got 3 HRs all season. He hit .206 in July and he’s 4-25 in August with 4 BBs and 26 Ks in these 2 months.

      Also had one of worst ABs, vs. Morton and Braves. Morton threw him 4 straight curves, all in the dirt, and Wisely swung at every single one. He got piece of one for foul and then struck out. I mean, he saw exact same pitch that did exact same thing and kept swinging at it. bizarro

  13. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on August 30, 2024 at 6:39 pm

    Loo, to your 1:45: yes! Ma would put a bag of the Milky Way juniors in there. My sister chipped a tooth trying to eat one right out of the freezer….

  14. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 7:59 pm

    McCray definitely has a big future. It’s just not in baseball…

  15. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:02 pm

    As a player, Yaz is as much like his dad as Tony Gwynn Jr. was to his…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:20 pm

      Come on. Yaz is better than a dead guy. Right?

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:42 pm

        Carl’s alive, Chuck…

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on August 31, 2024 at 7:27 am

        That’s his grandpa.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 31, 2024 at 8:28 am

        Damn you’re right, Chuck!

  16. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:11 pm

    Schmitt-iot. Time for K&K to hang it up…

  17. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:35 pm

    0-3 already RISP ,That should be the Giants motto included with Torture,Mind Boggling etc..

    They sure fucked Estrada hard and for what laughable Schmitt &Wisely??Atleast Estrada is a gamer and clubhouse presence, I still donโ€™t get this move, but heโ€™s certainly gone next year.

    6 years of shit baseball and their still holding on to Morocco Mole(Farhan )and BoMel when the clowns ๐Ÿคก at top Greggie and other dumbshits saying they need to make the playoffs this year.Playoffs? Playoffs? I just want to leave more runners stranded on the bases!!!

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:41 pm
    • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:43 pm

      Yeah, AK, I still haven’t seen any good explanation for sending Thairo down. Fine as a 2nd bagger as long as there are a bunch of other players on the team who are better than him. Z obviously knows his job is on the line, and if the players just roll over in September, he’s definitely gone. Still hoping they show some life… but will be completely fine if Z is gone.

  18. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:45 pm

    They should mention Kingman here – played for 4 teams (in all 4 existing divisions) in one season (1977). But they forgot that…

  19. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:47 pm

    This game is like watching a test pattern…

    • alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:24 pm

      LMAO Loo, it really is my eyes ๐Ÿ‘€ bulge out on that itโ€™s mesmerizing though it could of been some Acid trip are powerful skunk weed Back in the day..

      I was thinking even The Outer Limits:โ€We control your television set and now your forced to watch a Giants gameโ€๐Ÿ“บ๐Ÿ‘ฝ

  20. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on August 30, 2024 at 8:58 pm

    Watching US Open tennis over the lousy Giants, way more riveting, especially with massive upsets last two nights: young stud Alcarez falls yesterday and the great Djokovic just lost tonight, both to a couple of nobodies.

  21. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:24 pm

    Conforto can’t leave soon enough…

  22. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:25 pm

    Conforto sucks!

  23. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:28 pm

    Chapman with a two strike hit,? Fuck yeah.

  24. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:29 pm

    There ya go!

  25. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:30 pm

    I’ll name you 10 guys that would’ve tried to score on that play…

  26. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:37 pm

    On the road to .500

  27. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 30, 2024 at 9:39 pm

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