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Spiraling Down The Drain

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on June 30, 2025

The Walker implosion was unfortunate but I’m not going to blame him for that loss. At some point the offense has to wear this shit. Tell me something, how do we add Adames, Devers and get a full season out of J-H Lee and somehow our offense got WORSE. Last year we had a .701 OPS, this year it’s .684.

Bullpens are going to give up runs. Starting pitchers, too. Scoring 3/0/2 runs against the shitty team is just unforgivable. Fire Burrell. It won’t change anything but we’ll all at least feel a little better.

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:39 am

    Koss and Bailey went 3-6 rest of team 3-24. Tauchmann had 3 hits by himself as did Rookie C. Never thought I’d say this but SF could use Tauchmann or Roberts as Blade said right now.

  2. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:40 am

    Cause Pat the useless Bat Burrell & Windmill Matty are both terrible coaches and they did nothing last year as well the stats don’t lie.Of course the 3rd loser BoMel has known these cronies for years and unfortunately Posey still believes in Melvin’s coaches cause he’s friends with them too.
    But hey you cut bait with Wade, you pick up Devers,Smith so he could easily get rid of these relics.Besides you can’t fire 26 baseball players( though the hitting side meh?) but you can fire underachieving coaches

  3. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:14 am

    Fire the coaches. Set a goddamn batting order.

    Not too difficult.

  4. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:34 am

    Xoot . . . Unrelated to Giants – I am sending you an email regarding my stepfather, i.e., a “power of attorney” question(s). I hope you can help. Thank you in advance.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:03 am

      I’ll take a look.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:23 am

        Much appreciated xoot!

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:53 am

        Two email responses, Blade.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 12:10 pm

        after a second look, a third email

        .

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 3:00 pm

        it’s no problem, Steve.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 30, 2025 at 12:27 pm

      Mike, excellent comments . . . I am picking my ex up at the airport in a few hours. Coupled with my cousin being at work, so as I said in the email, I am going to allow her to review your input and get back with me. Likely will be this evening, perhaps earlier. Regardless, you’ve already done yeoman’s like work on this, so I am very, very appreciative. We may have follow up questions. If it gets to me too much, let me know. Thank you!

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on June 30, 2025 at 12:43 pm

        *If it gets to be too much (I meant)

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 4:58 pm

        ha. My reply above.

  5. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:40 am

    Recently stumbled upon highlights of the 2012 WS, fun to rewatch sometimes, and a notable factor of that team was a very set lineup. Buck doing the lineups before game time would mostly say “The lineup for the Giants, pretty much the same as last night”. Now and then someone would get a spot start, and yes, this is the WS, so you’d hope the team was pretty set by then. Not too many superstars on that team, just a handful of guys who played well together and Boch found a workable and reliable lineup, and they won it all with it. Melvin’s lineups just look like he’s making it all up and mailing it in.

  6. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:56 am

    the opposite side of that is rewarding g the coaches that are sucking wildly.

    Burrell is one thing, but Matt Williams is directly losing games for us.

  7. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 10:46 am

    When you can’t hit can’t run the bases and the only offense they create is walks and HBP it’s beyond disturbing.They had their usual low hit total 6? had 8 walks throw in a HBP by Lee and even with 15 guys on base 2 freaking runs! RISP should be the team motto name now RISPT(RISPTorture) this team can’t string hits together and just begging on walks and getting HBP isn’t going to win games! Shit even Devers OPS are down to .740 when he was high .800’s close to ..900 In Boston!Sure he tunes out Burrell along with most of the players..

    The only coach doing a fantastic job imo is Pitching Coach JP Martinez and that was only after another Melvin flunky from Padres days Brian Price stepped down so fortunate for that atleast that he got the job!

  8. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:13 am

    hiring your friends rarely works in any business setting. And Buster needs to grow a pair. He’s running this show. Fuck your friends, fuck Melvin’s friends. Hire quality, qualified people who can do the job you have for them.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:38 am

      I think Posey is still evaluating everyone, Melvin included. See what happens.

      • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on June 30, 2025 at 12:38 pm

        it took him too long to ditch Wade. And one of the reasons he gave was “I played with that guy.” Fuck that. Imagine if Bill Walsh took that soft ass approach. Buster needs to tighten up his game and I think he should start by not picking people he likes or who he’s friends with to surround himself with. Shit that’s what Trump does.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 30, 2025 at 12:43 pm
  9. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:26 am

    So Walker has blown three chances so far for Verlander to get a win. Three!! I’m sure Verlander is telling him: “Don’t let it bother you, kid.” But still….

    And, yeah, the “win” is an over-rated old-fashioned pitching stat, but I do feel sympathy for Verlander having to tote that “zero win” thing around still.

  10. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:41 am

    The Giants game yesterday was impossible for me to stay awake during. I would wake up, watch a few more minutes, then doze off again.

    But last night…..the Valkyries!! They dismantled a solid Seattle team, and have become arguably the most exciting sports story in the Bay Area at the moment. Chase Arena was rockin’. Curry and some other sports celebs were in the crowd.

    In the expansion draft, teams were allowed to protect six players, so the Vals are mostly made up of bench players from other teams. It really is remarkable what they’re doing. Obviously their head coach, Nakase, is doing a great job. Their schedule does get rougher for the next couple of weeks, so that will be a big test. 8 teams of the 13 make the playoffs, so if they get in, that will be a lot of fun for their fans.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 2:17 pm

      Yeah that was cool. Expansion team with winning record-who does that?

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 30, 2025 at 2:54 pm

        Las Vegas Golden Knights thanks to rigged up draft…

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 6:16 pm

        Bingo

  11. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:48 am

    It’s been a tough season for the Fever so far. Clark has missed about half of their games with two different injuries. But, of course, all that matters is getting into the playoffs, and then making a run in the playoffs.

    Minnesota does seem like a team totally hitting on all cylinders, on a quest to win the championship they so narrowly missed last season.

  12. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on June 30, 2025 at 11:57 am

    Watching the TV ads during the Vals game last night, clearly the white stars in the league get more endorsement money than the black stars. A’ja Wilson is the big exception. Clearly race plays a factor in the endorsement situation; but, of course, companies can pick who they want to be in their ads. It’s a situation that surely does not go unnoticed by the black players.

    It’s not that way in men’s sports, and the NBA in particular. Black athletes get lots of endorsement deals in men’s sports. It says something about how corporations view the mindset of the white male sports fan. But where are the corporations getting that viewpoint? Do they do polls and focus groups? I don’t claim to know much about how the advertising business works.

    I remember some executive in the movie business saying about the movie business: “Nobody knows anything.”

  13. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 2:43 pm

    Any update on Schmitt? Losing him and Chapman does hurt. Flores 4-36 1 HR in June. Dom Smith 2-20. Lee in deep funk. Good news is DBax pitching has been awful and that yard is friendly place to hit.

  14. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 30, 2025 at 3:04 pm

    It’ll never happen but Yankees need a 3B so they can move Jazz to second. Now that Devers is a Giant some radio clowns are throwing Chapman’s name around…

  15. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 4:36 pm

    Yeah but Blade they signed Zero pct Catcher Austin Barnes to be the savior in the 2nd half!

    Mrsprtdude was calling for him so good for him..His no bat will fit in fine..

  16. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 4:54 pm

    Backup C is supposed to handle pitching staff. Barnes is pretty good at it. Others can hit.

  17. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 5:16 pm

    Schmitt to IL/Fitz back up and starting at 2b tonight. Koss at 3b.

  18. willedav's avatar willedav said, on June 30, 2025 at 5:20 pm

    MCC site per Brady Klopfer says Chapman taking BP today and targets next Monday for return. Fitz got in 4 games for Sacramento and went 4-13.

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 6:25 pm

    Injured, limp, and struggling. Hope they wake up for the divisional games.

  20. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 6:51 pm

    “Backup C is supposed to handle pitching staff. Barnes is pretty good at it. Others can hit.” Sure, that’s normal theory. But some of us here have opined the last couple years that to give Bailey enough rest (which he always needs to prevent a 2nd half cratering), the Giants need more than just a backup catcher, they need a co-catcher. I know, I know, Posey was a catcher, of course he knows best, blah blah blah. The biggest problem with this is the “others can hit” part. The others aren’t hitting, and neither will Barnes.

    Funnily enough, Loo, when Devers came over, that thought (trading Chappie) popped into my mind. Yes, will never happen. But even as Buster needs to get tougher and less emotionally involved, as Craig said, I do think that he will make some ballsy moves, probably in this lovely month of July.

  21. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 30, 2025 at 6:55 pm

    Adames on pace for 182 strikeouts?

  22. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:02 pm

    Such BS by the Giants even sending Schmitt to Chicago and just saying Day to Day on a jacked up wrist.They wasted a roster spot , not that that matters for 3 games.What was their plan pinch running him so he could fuck it up more?

  23. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:03 pm

    Lee batting 6th. Sheesh.

  24. xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:15 pm

    whoa Dominic! E3 ? Dammit.

  25. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:15 pm

    Man, this is looking ugly early.

  26. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:47 pm

    At least Bailey hit the ball hard. Giants 15 games since they had more than TWO hits in a game with RISP. Ofer today. Devers has joined the list of players I fast forward. is it just me or is he swinging out of his shoes with every swing? I never paid attention to him in AL so maybe he always did?

    • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 7:58 pm

      He’s always been a big swinger. Honestly, sometimes it looks like most Giants hitters are trying to do too much at each at bat.

  27. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:04 pm

    Geez a Bomb given up by Webb 2-0 might as well be 10-0 ..

  28. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    Gotta wonder if maybe one of those dreaded “players only” meetings is about to get queued up….

  29. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:18 pm

    hey now!! Fitzie!

  30. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:20 pm

    Paul Instead of flipping tables and spreads the players can all gang up and beat up Burrell&Wlliams instead?

  31. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:27 pm

    webbie off the hook and back on the hook.

  32. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:34 pm

    funny what happens when you just try to make contact.

  33. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:35 pm

    OMG Chuck i just walked back here o type that very thought. GRRRRR

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:40 pm

      hah! Fucking Lee trying to hit a 5 run homer

  34. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:38 pm

    What the mother fuck???

  35. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:39 pm

    What?!? This better get reversed.

  36. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:40 pm

    That’s a home run

  37. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:42 pm

    It’s a Fucking HR!! What the fuck is happening in baseball? No interference, calling Koss out ? on a HR

  38. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:43 pm

    fucking outfield walls should not have fans able to fuck with shit. Foul territory, sure.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:48 pm

      How about pigeon spikes?

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:52 pm

        broken glass

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:56 pm

        Latino players might object to jagged shards of glass along the tops of walls. Well, some might get nostalgic, I guess.

  39. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:45 pm

    Wow, Devers is as bad as Adames.

  40. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:46 pm

    fox sports announcers just said devers is 0 for the giants with risp.

  41. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:46 pm

    and that was a fucking home run.

  42. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:49 pm

    And that was not fucking strike 3 on Ramos.

  43. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:49 pm

    weeeeeeee!

  44. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:50 pm

    Can they BE any more boring?

  45. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:50 pm

    Only the Giants can hit a HR and not get one?

    WTF the ball was clearly over the wall the LF and the idiot fan did not touch each other so how the FUCK could they make Koss go back to second?And of course on cue he comes up lame now as well. And of course they don’t tie it up!!

  46. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:52 pm

    ahhhhhhhh. Fuck it. This team is unwatchable right now.

  47. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:54 pm

    Right now Devers needs a day off. Maybe the worst hitter on the team. Crazy he swung and missed 8 times today at strikes. At least lee and bailey touch the ball now and again…

  48. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on June 30, 2025 at 8:59 pm

    And Ballgame as Rodgers gives up a HR 4-2

    And WTF didn’t Melvin go all ballistic and tossed out on not getting that HR reversed? Their is no dawg left in him that’s for sure, oh now he gets tossed between commercials alittle late..

  49. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:02 pm

    someone has to tell Jung hoo that he isn’t Barry bonds. He’s trying g to jack everything.

  50. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:03 pm

    thinki g motel 6 may need to go if this shit continues.

    • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:23 pm

      Yes, he needs to go.

  51. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 9:04 pm

    and the fucking talking heads after the game said”yeah that was a home run.”

  52. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on June 30, 2025 at 10:41 pm

    Another fun fact.

    Devers 0-13 with 11 k’s.

    3 runs or less in 8 of their last 12 games.


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