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The Skipper Responds

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 16, 2025

So I just heard back from Skip Pitlock. lol. I missed all the baseball this week. Still got a sour taste from last weekend’s games.

Anyway, this is great. Enjoy.


skip pitlock

To:  me · Wed, Jul 16 at 1:25 PM

Message Body

Hi Craig,

Sorry for the nearly 2 month delay in answering your question about the game against the Houston Astros on August 8, 1970 when I hit an inside the park home run against Wade Blasingame in our park. I had to look back on the inning by inning stats. I thought that Blasingame had a no hitter up till then, but I just read that McCovey had the 2 prior hits off him. It was in the 5th inning that I hit a routine single off WB. But Cedeno tried to make a shoestring catch in left center. He dove but came up real short. The ball rolled to the wall. Cedeno had to pick himself up and go get it because Jimmy Wynn in left field did NOT move one step. I didn’t even have to slide at home. Word had it that Wynn was having a big problem with their manager Harry the Hat Walker. Wynn just stood still and watched the play. I was fortunate not to get the loss in this game. I was losing 5-1 in the 8th after John Mayberry hit a 2 run homer. But we scored 5 runs in the bottom of the ninth, capped by Mays 2 run walk off single. No, I didn’t get the win— Don McMahon did. I didn’t get the ball either. As far as 7 walks, my control was the reason that the Giants sent me down to Triple A in 1971 for 3 years before I escaped to the White Sox and emerged on their big league club for all of 1974. I was fortunate to play with 8 HOFers, 4 in 1970 and 4 in 1974. Mays was the best and Dick Allen was a close second! Thanks for your questions Craig, it gave me the opportunity to relive my youth from 55 years ago.

Skip Pitlock

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this is what I sent him:

Big Flavor

To:  skip_pitlock@yahoo.com, and 1 other · Tue, May 27 at 10:15 AM

Message Body

Skip– Hi there, i have a non mortgage related question for you. I run a popular SF Giants blog that usually just banters back and forth about the game that day. Sometimes the bloggers start discussing old players or players who didn’t play very long for SF. Your name came up recently. I know you only played a single season for our team but one of the bloggers noticed you actually hit one home run in your career with SF. I looked up the box score, man that was quite a game that day! 

I’m wondering if you might find a moment to share your memory of that game. I’m assuming you never got the ball you hit? You walked 7 that day, can you imagine that happening today? What was it like to play with Mays? 

You certainly don’t have to answer any of those specific questions, just anything you like. 

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  1. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 16, 2025 at 2:36 pm

    Wow, that’s great stuff!

  2. bassbaldy's avatar bassbaldy said, on July 16, 2025 at 2:52 pm

    Fantastic!!

  3. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 16, 2025 at 5:53 pm

    That is so cool! Bet you made his day. I was at an April bat-day game against the Astros in 1971. And, man I remember listening to so many games late at night (for an 8 year old) on my little radio and hearing “Now pitching, Don McMahon.”

    Jimmy Wynn was a big reason why we lost. We had something like a 6-1 lead and Wynn hit a 3 run shot to end up beating the Giants.

    Speaking of nicknames, Toy Cannon is one of the great ones.

  4. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 16, 2025 at 5:59 pm

    That was so cool. Even read it for the wife! Thanks Craig!!

  5. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 16, 2025 at 7:19 pm

    Man, that made me smile big time, Flav.

    Really awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing, Craig.

  6. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on July 16, 2025 at 7:28 pm

    Very cool. Baseball gives us the stories of our lives….

  7. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 16, 2025 at 7:53 pm

    Great reminiscence by Skip, that was fun to read.

  8. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 16, 2025 at 9:59 pm

    Skip was right…

    Jim Wynn, nicknamed “The Toy Cannon”, was a powerful hitter and outfielder for the Houston Astros, known for his prodigious home runs. Harry Walker was a manager for the Astros, known for his batting instruction, but clashed with Wynn over his hitting style. Walker preferred a more singles-oriented approach, while Wynn was known for his power. 

    Here’s a more detailed look: 

    • Jim Wynn:. A smaller player with immense power, Wynn earned his nickname for his ability to hit long home runs. He played for the Astros from 1963 to 1973, hitting 223 of his 291 career home runs in Houston ballparks. He was also adept at getting on base and stealing bases. 
    • Harry Walker: A former player himself, Walker managed the Astros from 1968 to 1972. He was known for his strong opinions on hitting and a particular aversion to the “home run or strikeout” approach that Wynn favored. Walker’s managerial style reportedly clashed with Wynn’s, and some believe it contributed to Wynn’s perceived inconsistency. Walker was eventually fired in 1972. 
    • Clash of Styles: Walker, a proponent of a more contact-oriented, singles-based approach, reportedly did not appreciate Wynn’s power-hitting style and tried to get him to focus on hitting to the opposite field. Wynn, on the other hand, felt Walker’s approach stifled his natural power. 

    Prior to managing the Astros it’s well known that Walker turned Matty Alou into a batting champ by giving him a big heavy bat and teaching him to slap the ball to all fields. After leaving the Giants he had almost 1,000 hits over the next 5 seasons…

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 16, 2025 at 10:33 pm

      The AI note above on Wynn is obviously incorrect. He hit 223 of his career HRs as an Astro/Colt .45 but only 101 of them were hit in Houston, 97 of which were at the Astrodome.

      Also discovered that in his ML debut Pitlock faced Bob Gibson and gave up the first HR of his career – hit by…………..Bob Gibson.

      • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 17, 2025 at 8:43 am

        Despite early Giants years when M Alou hit .260, he wound up with career BA of .307 and yes won batting title in 1966. Pirates under Walker finished 3rd twice in a row 1966-67 to pennant winning Dodgers while Giants in Herman Franks years were 2nd 4 times btw 1965-68.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 17, 2025 at 7:29 am

      Thanks Loo, good stuff. Thanks to flav for Pitlock story, cool he got back to you.

    • bassbaldy's avatar bassbaldy said, on July 17, 2025 at 12:18 pm

      Really Grrrreat reporting Loo! Made my day .. going through severe Giant withdrawal .. plus a bout of bronchitis.. bed ridden & bored.

  9. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2025 at 8:32 am

    Great story on Skip Pitlock Flavor, glad he reached out to you that was amazing he did that!

    I actually saw him pitch at the Stick in 1970 I was 14,they used him as a starting pitcher, he was a bit erratic but good stuff,he’ll he was a rookie,all rooks just getting their feet wet we’re up and down.My buddies and me were hoping he would stick around for some years, but Dipshit Owner Horace Stoneham was constantly moving players back then so it figured he moved on as well.I wonder if he ever had regrets about not being part of the 71 team (Chris Speier rookie season at SS , to this day I always thought Speier was the catalyst for that team with many stars with his added energy and Enthusiasm)thank god no more Hal Lanier!) that faced the Pirates and of course lost(Bob Robertson killed the Giants with clutch HR’s a unsung player when they had Pops,Clemente,Sanguillen (sp) and others ..

    Giants went back to obscurity for many years after that 71 season..

  10. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 17, 2025 at 11:57 am

    SF Gate says Bill Neukom dead at 83. RIP. great pic of him and chi in bucket.

  11. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2025 at 12:31 pm

    Oh man that’s sad I really liked Bow Tie Bill Neukom( local guy from San Mateo growing up and huge Giants fan) he was a key cog in the Giants 3-5 W/S runs!Pissed they forced him out later!🧡🖤⚾️

  12. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 17, 2025 at 12:59 pm

    I think the last major thing Neukom did for the Giants was rep the team in an mlb hearing to determine if they had the right to prevent the A’s from moving to San Jose. This was long after Johnson the elder and other owners had fired him as managing owner. His professionalism impressed me.

    His leadership, of course, made the success of 2010 possible and set up the successes thereafter. RIP.

  13. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2025 at 1:42 pm

    Best thing about Neukom of course is he was a baseball guy through and through. Like Pete Magowan before him.

    Sad to hear of his passing.

    This braintrust of accountants, developers, and trust-fund babies leaves little to be desired.

    They need to stay out of the way more.

  14. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 17, 2025 at 2:07 pm

    Sucks. Good guy who at my request, personally pinned the 2010 championship button on me at Finnerty’s on trophy day. Like the wizard giving the cowardly lion his medal of courage…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2025 at 3:26 pm

      That’s awesome. Wish there was a pic of that.

  15. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2025 at 3:28 pm

    Toy Cannon is a great nickname, but Harry the Hat is legendary.

  16. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on July 17, 2025 at 3:34 pm

    another email from the Skipper. Anyone know how to find the box score for this game?

    Skip Pitlock

    To:  me · Thu, Jul 17 at 11:26 AMMessage Body

    Craig,

    Thanks for posting! I had to laugh when I started reading on that 1970 date. I was a terrible hitter, struck out most of the time. But my favorite game was a complete game victory over the Dodgers! Didn’t walk too many. 

    Skip

  17. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 17, 2025 at 4:38 pm

    Baseball reference is so fun

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN197008030.shtml

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 17, 2025 at 4:53 pm

      It’s definitely Pitlock-mania here. I wonder if Skip knew fellow Saluki, Clyde Frazier who might have already been gone. It’s close. Look at those BA’s. 1970 was a sick year for hitters, btw…

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 17, 2025 at 5:50 pm

      Thanks Unc, love these. always liked ken Henderson. Wes Parker too very underrated 1b.

  18. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 17, 2025 at 7:43 pm

    Amazing that the Skipter was such a crappy hitter I have him down at 1-25 ..080 but the legend that he was he hit a HR off Astros Blasingame (sp) which of course puts him tied with are very own Duane Kuiper at 1 who hit his off of Steve Stone..

    Also of his rare excellence he did have that CG win against the Dodgers so that makes him even more special in Giants baseball history!!


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