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Bring It On!

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on July 18, 2025

I had a nice, needed break from baseball. Didn’t watch the Derby or any of the all star game. And The Skipper provided a nice trip down memory lane of some great Giants history.

Interesting choice to have Verlander start today. He actually pitched pretty well in that 13-zip demolition at the hands of the Phillies. I’m going to lean positive here and say he kick starts the second half with a good start and we don’t have to stare at that ugly 0-7 any longer.

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 18, 2025 at 7:53 am

    Soft spot for Neukom finally releasing Rowand August 2011. Also think Loo is right about Posey taking on $$. Giants fans might have to be content with Randal Grichuk.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 9:16 am

      Yeah I think that’s our kinda guy, Willie.

      Grichuk at Oracle in 73 AB: 4/11/.288/.845 and 5 doubles ain’t bad at all…

  2. Dean's avatar Dean said, on July 18, 2025 at 9:17 am

    FanGraphs gives Giants 45% odds to make playoffs. Padres just above at 47%. FanGraphs bullish on Phils, Mets, Cubs, Brewers & Dodgers reaching postseason with Giants, Padres, Cards & Reds battling for final wild card spot.

    Of course landscape changes in two weeks when dust settles from trade deadline moves. Can Posey convince ownership to spend more meaningful $$$? I’m skeptical. 1B, 2B or RF upgrade would be nice.

    We need Roupp to continue pitching solid and Verlander to do his best Blake Snell 2nd half of 2024 impersonation to give lift to Webb & Ray. Barring significant acquisition at trade deadline, I think more likely Giants just miss playoffs than sneak in. Time to play ball and hope fate smiles on Oracle Park.

  3. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 9:21 am

    If we want to continue down memory lane my HS baseball teammate Keith Comstock who pitched 20 innings in relief with the Giants in 1987 before he was dealt in the Giants fleeced job of Mitchell,Draveky,&Lefferts..

    But he has a great story about his Baseball Card when he was bouncing around from MLB&Minors ..He was pitching for Las Vegas Stars and a company Topps? maybe some one else ,anyway Keith was always a prankster going back to are babe Ruth days,somehow he managed to get The Greatest Baseball Card ever taken :It’s called the “Nutcracker” you’ll no when you see it, even ESPN had an article on it..
    2great articles ( long but excellent) about his journeys to get to the “The Show”

    I don’t know how to post pictures are paste articles on here but if someone could the picture is EPIC it will crack you up!! Just google up Keith Comstock and go to his baseball cards , I talked about it with him at are 50th reunion last September he said yeah Bob it was right up at the top along when I stole the team bus in the minors and hit a fire hydrant and ended up in jail..Hey 70’s-80’s we’re different times then today..

  4. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 9:54 am

    I once got a job cause the guy interviewing me went to school with Dick Estelle…

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 10:27 am

      I think I mentioned this before . . . I once had a job interview that consisted exclusively of Baseball Digest Quick Quiz questions. The job was not baseball related.

      • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 10:46 am

        Love that, James. Wonder if stuff like this still goes on today? In 1976, I had to take a polygraph to work on Wall Street. Ed Asner lookalike administering the test asked me if I gamble. I said ” Well, I like the racetrack”. Immediately unhooked me and talked horses for 2 solid hours. HIRED!

      • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 10:50 am

        Cultural fit, man, it’s still a legit criterion!

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 11:21 am

        When I interviewed for Intel, the manager asked me, “if you were a dog, what kind would you be?”

        Followed by if you were a tree . . .”

        My dog answer was “half yellow lab and half pitbull because I am loyal and tough”

        Can’t remember the tree answer but I got the job.

        At the time I was contracting at EDS for peanuts. Fucking Ross Perot . . .

  5. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 18, 2025 at 10:10 am

    per NBC sports Posey said on KNBR he isn’t concerned about innings limits and wants younger SPs “to go as deep into games as they possibly can ” See how rotation goes rest of trip and when Birds gets next start

  6. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 11:17 am

    OMFG!!!

    I remember Comstock. This quote is epic:

    “In 1983, the Oakland A’s sold me to the Detroit Tigers for $100 and a bag of balls. I had to deliver the balls.” 

  7. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 18, 2025 at 11:38 am

    interviewing for my first summer legal job in Sac after one yr of law school the managing partner asked me how well I played softball. You need a dead pull hitting 3B? Hired. Great season. Slow pitch but semi serious.

  8. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 18, 2025 at 12:46 pm

    Matt Gage ? Called up?

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 12:58 pm

      Shit, he was drafted with Webbie in 2014. Ex- BJ.

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 1:16 pm

      Fabulous lifetime numbers!

  9. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 18, 2025 at 1:52 pm

    Opening day at Del Mar. There’s neat column in Athletic about Otto Kemp who played D2 ball at beautiful park with views of ocean near San Diego. Point Loma Nazarene.

  10. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 2:10 pm

    Gage can’t be any worse then Alexander was who just downright stunk.

    I figure they will give him a few relief appearances and if he doesn’t pan out they need to make a trade for an experienced LH reliever cause with Miller likely done for the year they need help there.Luchessi is ok but not overwhelming ..See what happens their along with OF,C maybe a back end SP ..

  11. willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 18, 2025 at 3:46 pm

    Jays last home stand they went 7-0 on back end of 10 game winning streak. Before AS break they lost 3 of 4 on road to White Sox and A’s.

  12. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:16 pm

    Same shit…

  13. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:18 pm

    I’ve only heard of 3 guys in BJ lineup. I’m a bad baseball fan…

  14. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:35 pm

    I’d be shocked if the Giants didn’t lead all of MLB in GIDP.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:41 pm

      At least it makes their LOB stat look better…

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:48 pm

      You’re fully justified not looking and simply believing.

    • bassbaldy's avatar bassbaldy said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:05 pm

      and useless weak-ass pop outs.

  15. James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:41 pm

    Verlander’s stuff looks good again, those hitters just keep foiling him.

  16. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:42 pm

    Whose bright idea was it to start winless Verlander the first game after the break on a 2-game losing vs. one of the hottest teams going?

  17. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:42 pm

    And here we go with Verlander getting raked over the coals again! 3-0 as Jays look for more..

  18. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:48 pm

    It’s batting practice for Bluejays! 4-0 V is toast they need to dump his ass!

    Crawford’s thinking he’s tarnishing my 35 jersey number bigtime!

  19. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:49 pm

    Verlanderham living up to his name. Then again he will get 0 run support.

  20. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:53 pm

    Run support? Doesn’t matter with Verlander he will give up more runs than their capable of scoring..

  21. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin said, on July 18, 2025 at 4:57 pm

    What a great signing Verlander was, batting practice

  22. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:00 pm

    Verlander should be an opener for 1 inning

  23. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:03 pm

    I think the Mets paid a fortune to unload him. If that’s accurate it should tell you something…

  24. xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:08 pm

    I truly thought Verlander had more than this left to offer. Some lucky ground ball hits today. But some very hard hits too. HR on the horizon , I can sense it rising. Especially if they trot him back out there for the fourth.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:10 pm

      ahhhh! Relief!

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:20 pm

      It is a weird unraveling. Is his fastball that straight and easy to rake at 96? Is the breaking stuff really that much different from when he was successful? It’s not like you can merely sit on it when he’s still throwing mid-90s. He usually throws the ball where he intends to, not much different from anybody else, AFAICT.

      • xoot's avatar xoot said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:52 pm

        I dunno. Look at vlad’s first inning AB. Verlander’s straight 94-95 mph FBs missed the corners, except for one. He walked him on five pitches. I think that FB is pretty much unspottable.

  25. Dean's avatar Dean said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:15 pm

    Verlander’s not happy about bringing pulled in 3rd inning? Too bad. His leash is getting very short. If he doesn’t right ship in next two weeks, Giants should demote him to bullpen. He’s won as many games for Giants in 2025 as number of wins he compiled in 2012 WS against Giants…..0.

  26. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:15 pm

    Feel for the positive vibes thoughts by BF going into the V start..

    But let’s get real he needs to RETIRE and not get another start !

    0-8 and continues to get raked!!

    I can’t even look at his line 9 hits in 2 2/3 innings walks hit HBP ERA I don’t know are give a shit it’s over 5 plus..

  27. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:21 pm

    Giants should of started 2 Openers..Pitlock&Comstock!

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:37 pm

      Got any more rhyming Giants?

      Madlock, Chris Brock (6-8 in 1999) no recollection of him other than the name…

  28. James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:26 pm

    Reminder that Willy Adames has NOT yet turned his season around. He is still the single biggest reason the Giants offense has not performed closer to expectations. It’s certainly not Yaz, who has put up respectable numbers, as he always does.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:01 pm

      What about Chappie?

      .237 is the high water mark?

      Surely you must be joking.

  29. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:35 pm

    Fuck that. Yaz sucks.

  30. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:36 pm

    Devers got a hit where he didn’t look like he was swinging out of his shoes. Hope. verlander? Not so much:(

  31. Dean's avatar Dean said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:40 pm

    While we’re getting in our gripes, why is Pat the Bat still the hitting coach? Posey talked offseason about grinding out AB’s but Giants hitting discipline sorely lacking. Down 4 runs no excuse for Yaz to swing at two off speed pitches out of strike zone when Giants need runners. Yaz is simply not lead off hitter. Should be batting 6th or 7th in order. Had Bassett on ropes early and couldn’t plate single run.

    • Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:44 pm

      Yes, flip Lee and Yaz in the lineup

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:03 pm

      Over the season, Yaz has shown far better plate discipline than Lee. He has the best walk percentage on the Giants.

      • bassbaldy's avatar bassbaldy said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:41 pm

        early season Lee thrived a-top the order, the further down he went, the slumpier he got.

  32. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:43 pm

    Good to wake up to baseball again. Checks box score: through the first 4 innings, Jays with 9 hits, Giants with 7, hey now! But 4 runs to none. Just can’t seem to string ’em together, can they…

  33. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:54 pm

    Can’t make out names or number on BJ’s stupid uniforms, not like that’s the point of them…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:55 pm

      Yup like those awful Niner jerseys from a few years back.

  34. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:54 pm

    In the months of May and July Yaz has 4 RBI.

    And Lee tries to pull yet another down and away ball and grounds out to 2nd.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:08 pm

      Lee’s last HR was May 14. He came in on tear, 12-37. Previous to that , 2-36. Entire Month of June 12-84, .143. League maybe figured him out, hmmn?

      • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:16 pm

        Watch his last 300 ABs. Down and away 90% of the time.

        He seems to think he’s Sadaharu Oh.

  35. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 5:58 pm

    This team is SO FUCKING BORING.

    MoTel Hell just can’t stop fucking around with the leadoff hitter du jour. SET A FUCKING LINEUP!!!

    Buster has to do something about Williams and Burrell.

    To start. Melvin should be at the end of his rope.

    Funny watching Bailey not being able to track anything off the bat.

  36. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:04 pm

    Maybe they should do a mercy trade and send Verlander back to Detroit where he can retire possibly with a WS ring this year, the one Verlander thought he was gonna get in 2012…

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:10 pm

      $100 and a bucket of balls sounds about right.

  37. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:05 pm

    They have a little ways to go to reach 15 hits without scoring a run in a 9 inning game. Amazingly, they had 5 walks and 2 HBP for 22 baserunners.

    https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/game/8-1-1918-pit-at-bsn-42461

  38. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:12 pm

    Fucking fool. Come on Matos

  39. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:13 pm

    10 hits without a run, that’s hard to do.

  40. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:14 pm

    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  41. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:14 pm

    The basepaths must feel like Gilligan’s Island to the Giants…

  42. James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:15 pm

    In the 70s, a Cubs pitcher whose name I don’t recall anymore, pitched a complete game 13 hitter against the Giants. I think they scored 1 or 2 runs. This is up there.

  43. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:19 pm

    Was it Reuschel?

    Jeff Beck’s pitching a nice game.

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:33 pm

      Nobody that good.

    • unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:37 pm

      Only other guy I got is Ex-Gi Steve Stone.

  44. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:21 pm

    Verlanderham with the snowman.

  45. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:24 pm

    Maybe Lost Cause Beck earned a start tonight. It’s worked out swell for Tweety…

  46. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:30 pm

    Wow, down and away and Lee pulls it to 1st.

    It would be cool if this team had a hitting coach that would get out of the hot tub every once in a while to teach something.

  47. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:33 pm

    Gotta say, Schmitt looks pretty good at 2nd. He’s gets to shit well. And his arm is way more than enough for 2nd.

  48. Irish Kevin's avatar Irish Kevin said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:41 pm

    Well as usual the bullpen kept them in the game

  49. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:43 pm

    11 hits and 11 K’s

    Symmetry at it’s finest.

  50. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:44 pm

    oops 12 k’s

  51. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:47 pm

    Second verse same as the first.

    Can’t win with zero numbers on the board

  52. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:48 pm

    Frizzle Fry indeed. No wonder ESPN ignroes this team. it is absolutely a snoozefest.

    But you gotta like the tribute to Geddy Lee . . .

  53. unca_chuck's avatar unca_chuck said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:48 pm
  54. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:49 pm
  55. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:50 pm

    James, this has gotta be it.

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN197405270.shtml

    • James's avatar James said, on July 18, 2025 at 7:06 pm

      Yes, the Ken Frailing masterpiece! I just found it myself and was going to post it. My memory was pretty off on the hits and runs, but it was still a total nightmare of offensive futility innings 2-8.

  56. Locojuan's avatar Locojuan said, on July 18, 2025 at 6:59 pm

    I’m still not sure why they started the second half with V. I would have thought Ray, Webb, and Roupp before Verlander.

  57. mrsprtdude's avatar mrsprtdude said, on July 18, 2025 at 7:15 pm

    10 hits not bad! Too bad they were never .2 in a row:(

    I asked siri. Most hits in a game without scoring is 13. Giants had 12 in a game in 1969. GRR


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