Free Falling
Kruk was on KNBR yesterday morning saying all of Birdsong’s problems were mechanical (shocker) and that we’d know in the first inning if he’d figured them out or not over the break.
0.0 innings completed.
I guess we got our answer.
Well, at least Elder only struck out one, he struck us out 12 times back in May.
Progress?
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Man in headlights is Posey. With exception of Birdsong who I think bought bus ticket back to Sacramento last night, I think Posey will be patient another week and see where Giants are after upcoming homestand. That also means two more starts for Verlander.
But if free fall continues, Posey must take action before Giants head to New York Aug 1st. The easier internal steps include firing Pat the Bat. Reassigning Matt Williams. Demoting Verlander to bullpen. Benching Ramos for at least a series to send message about lack of hustle and defensive discipline. These moves are about sending a message to clubhouse.
But if Posey wants to improve team he must take more drastic measures including trading any marginally marketable players and getting something in return. Doval, Walker, Yaz, Flores come to mind. Problem with this is its admission this season is over and ownership may not accept this approach.
Once promoted out of pen Birds gave up 0 HRs in 19 innings. Since then, 6 in 23. Looked last night like he was afraid to throw strike, missing low with fastball. Then of course left one in happy zone…same problem as Harrison. His start before Miami game vs. Boston didn’t go well so the HBP he delivered wasn’t issue to me and that needed to happen after Chapman Schmitt and Ramos had been hit. He doesn’t have command of anything vs. real hitters.
The one positive: his fastball velocity was back to 97-98. The break seemed to fix that, at least for one miserable start.
Per Adames’ comments about lack of energy, MoTel 6 isn’t getting his guys ready.
Buster can’t sit around and wait for things to change.
per MCC site there was “…an unusually long wait between final out and Bob Melvin’s media availability…”. so either someone was being dumped or he let them have it. Good for Adames, he and other vet leaders like Chapman and Flores need to let everyone know it’s unacceptable to play D like this behind pitching staff.
Day before MCC had Sac updates from weekend return to action: Eldridge is back, 1-9. So is Jerar 2-9. Fitz 0-12 with 3 Ks, McCray 1-12 with 7 Ks.
Whis went 3.2 innings, 68 pitches 5 hits 0 BBs 4 Ks 1 run vs. Dogs OKC AAA team. If you ditch Birds he or Seymour sound like next man up, barring trade for SP.
Catch Ball,Throw Ball,Hit Ball,The Fundamentals of Baseball from the beginning of the game and All-Season Long this Giants team has broken all the Hallowed Rules of what a good baseball team should be..
Roupp is about to surpass his past seasons’ IP max. I don’t expect his whip to shrink much. It’ll hang around that dreaded 1.500 mark, where Verlander and birdsong sit. The pen is deteriorating. The LU is weak. No wonder the team’s depressed. No wonder we are.
on field leaders like Chapman and Webb and, despite his goofy Walmart greeter vest, Adames, can only do so much. Second guessing, and blaming, the manager and the coaches is usually just an amusing, half-informed hobby. This debacle is different. How can you not blame them now?
didn’t see WillieD’s comments. Add Wilmer to the list of player leaders.
Buster Posey WAR watch: 0.2. At least it’s no longer negative, thanks to high energy guy’s recent outburst. When you add 0.2 WAR to a 500 team you’ll probably get another 500 team.
Ramos is the worst Left Fielder in Baseball ( no surprise) among all 30 Leftfielders in baseball at -08 now with 5 errors should be more really, he constantly takes bad routes to balls off the hitters batting,and that stupid ass lob throw over Adames head advancing another 2 runners were the icing on the cake how Lackadaisical he is(Doval=Ramos as well for sure) but the Giants have no choice with him cause he’s still one of their best hitters in a team that can’t hit ever with any consistency..
They have to go out and get a SP atleast a quality 3-4-5 guy like a Merrill Kelly ,Seth Lugo, Gallen,
Alvin Dark would have had something to say about now…
Ha good one–certainly upset lot of Giants at time. Billy Martin might have gone all Reggie on him and charged out of dugout. Just don’t think that stuff works any more, right or wrong.
You know their going to probably give Beck a shot now to start and don’t be fooled by his recent few games he still stinks like Mason Black and Mr.HR allowed guy Seymour.Wish still needs time with his control like Birds so they will stay at Sac together..
And no way can you can put Verlander in the pen, it would take him 2 innings just to warm up and he’s always been a Starter every 5th day( pride factor)so expecting him to throw every other game are so is unrealistic.They just need to cut bait with him and move on..
So sick of Melvin usual BS about Fundamentals costing the team then try’s and to throw Schmitt under the bus on Lee’s one hop over throw to Adames that was out of the reach over Schmitt,as Acuna scores from 1st fucking base! The outfield play was the WORST I HAVE EVER SEEN, no hustle, no communication! Richie said it best postgame:Lack of focus, not anticipating a play situation, just unforgiving lack of focus especially in the Outfield is unacceptable..
MoTel, money, murder, madness…
change the mood from glad to sadness
Chucky boy!
I am the lizard king
I can do anything
A cold girl will kill you in a darkened room…
Giants haven’t had a month over .500 since April. This half ass half hearted group may be exactly who they are. Sure doesn’t look a team that wants to win.
Yep so true Mo Tel just another mouth piece with a coaching staff ( not including JD Martinez) he’s totally in denial about.Burrell is a joke his track record last 2 years is insanely bad,Windmill Matty ( god I miss Flannery he was so good)another clone from Melvin’s and Posey’s past are both past helping this team! If Posey can cut ties with Wade over his loyalty past he can do the same with these chumps..
Isn’t it ironic that we can all get something done around your place, take a piss,cook dinner,make a drink,etc and then turn on the game and knowing that can’t score are get a hit for atleast 4 innings in general and already hit in killer DP while watching their pitchers mostly pitch their asses off with no help from the LU and god forgive a sloppy defense and any starter is cooked..
Ozzy just died per my friend’s text…
It’s true…
birdsong goes from pen to rotation to sac. Thats quite a trajectory. Seymour HRs and Hjelle back up to save the day.
No offense to Melvin, but he’s so boring and bland in interviews, he’s painful to listen to. The whole team is bland and boring. Posey might be already regretting extending Melvin’s contract.
In Motel6 defense, all managers, coaches, players, etc in all sports are so overexposed in these mandatory pre and post game press conferences answering the same questions over and over, it must be torturous for them. A long way from the local beat guy hoping to stick a microphone in front of someone’s face for any kind of quote…
The broadcasters are at the “praise good swings, even if the batter made an out” phase.
Devers looks messed up. Damaged goods. The trade looks terrible now. Zaidi inherited some terrible contracts, and the Giants may have fallen back into some of that.
The WNBA starts its second half, and CBA negotiations are bringing a cloud over things. The average player salary is about $80,000. That’s laughable. Surely they should get more than that. Fans are stunned when they find out it’s 80,000. That’s meal money in men’s pro sports.
In closed doors Melvin should be calling out names for shit play. Birdsong is only 23 yrs old, I give him a pass, but the defense in the out field is atrocious to say the least. The other thing is no situational hitting. I think there was someone on 2nd and Yas was up. The announcers said the 3rd basement was almost in the shortstop position and deep. Why didn’t Yas just lay down a bunt, and a hard bunt to get it past the pitcher. Man on 1sr and 3rd.
There are so many things wrong.
They NEVER try to move runners. They’ve pretty much given up on stealing. They don’t know when or how to tag up. They rarely protect the plate on a 2 strike count. Or choke up and just try to put the ball in play.
Defense is lackadaisical to hysterical. Scoring from 1st on a grounder up the middle? Ramos stopping to smell the flowers and lollypop the throw into the IF. Throwing to the wrong base. Missing the cutoff man. Lee giving up on a ball that nearly hit his foot. He’s made a few misplays lately. On and on. This team is worse than last year.
This is a systemic thing going down through all the minor league levels where guys come up clueless. Fitzgerald being one of the very obvious head-in-the-clouds guys. But ALL of them that come up appear to be over their heads.
And WTF is up with Lee? A hitting coach HAS to tell him to eithert lay off the down and away pitch or try to hit it to LF instead of rolling them over to 2nd. Yazzzzzzzzz is lost at the plate. Chappie is just fair to poor. .220 is the norm. Flores is down to zero output. Ramos is struggling wildly.
We are a team under the mendoza line. Adames is the only one barely hitting near decent.
Ozzie AND Alex on the same day??? Say it ain’t so!
They do hit sacrifice flies real good.
I didn’t like the Chapman extension from day one. And the acquisition of Devers compounded the mistake cause he’s blocked from playing his natural position…
he’ll be unnaturally at 1B tonight
First time in his ML career. Guaranteed the first batter (Profar) hits one his way…
If only Buster had let Farhan, with his stubborn insistence on protecting the teams’ interests vs those of an in decline 31 year old, bumble the negotiation away.
Well Well Well..Giants have Devers playing 1B today batting 3rdin recentl baseball LU’s,Lee still leading off,Flores DH,Matos RF
The latest of Melvin’s madness try after tossing the food spread failed are just not giving a shit anymore.Should be some laughs with Devers at 1st with no experience and getting additional injuries a real possibility with limited range and a throw in the dirt stretching out that groin ..
no joke, I had just finished screaming lyrics to crazy train on my way over the summit when I got the text that the prince of darkness is no more. I am devastated.
i don’t like the idea of Devers playing first base right now. He can’t even hit, defense is going to add another thing for him to stress over. Just let him DH till he finds his swing
I guess it’s time to dump the Giants cliche (hello Eldridge) that 1B is a position that is far harder to play than it looks. Devers has never played 1B, so a crash course in footwork and holding runners and short hop picking is good enough for him to start there in the major leagues? What is Eldridge supposed to think at AAA? The dude making $250 million over 8 years is taking over my future spot? Plus, Devers is clearly hurt. He can barely run the bases, he looks like his entire lower body is one big pulled muscle. The Michelin Man rounding third. How many batters, how many games at 1B, before he makes his first error over there? First really costly error? The batted and thrown baseball has a way of finding you at the most inopportune time…
Melvin is defying the growing sense of chaos and disintegration by introducing more uncertainty — bold!
Sounds like the game plan of a certain public person trying to extricate himself from chaos coming from his years-long close association with a pedophile…
Melvin just needs to work harder in the post game pressers at convincing us that this is the greatest Giants squad ever.
All that stands between an 0-9 Verlander and 8 straight losses is Landen Roupp’s 1.453 WHIP.
If they’re gonna put Devers at 1B, then have Ramos DH, especially after last night’s shitshow in LF.
And….. Devers hits his patented double play ground ball.
Anyway, listening to the KNBR broadcast the past few weeks, I’ve noticed something. What’s the deal with even more PI law firms now advertising during the broadcast and on commercial breaks? I’ve heard at least 4 different firms advertising their promises to kick civil ass on the perpetrator and recover massive damages when you’ve been injured. Maybe they’re getting ready to rep some season ticket holders?…
Unca called it. Another passed ball by Bailey gives away a strikeout into a guy at first.
helluva first inning for Roupp. Easy guy to root for.
Roupp gets 4 outs in the 1st, Birdy couldn’t get 1.
At least they get another chance to show their situational sacrifice fly prowess.
Lot of loud contact off Giants bats so far, even Bailey.
For all the crap Burrell is getting, if he has anything to do with Schmitt’s newfound ability to lay off pitches out of the zone, he’s earned his paycheck.
Schmitt hit the shit outta of that one.
Shit Chapman got screwed of a HR but no replay needed for Schmitt HR Derby Smash my lord that was freaking smoked into the atmosphere..
Davis Daniel came into this game with a 1.000 whip. He’d pitched a total of five innings. Kaboom. Giants lucked out.
The surest thing in MLB is the ump calling a 3-0 pitch 1-3 inches outside a strike.
Another SF for SF!
SF SF prowess we haven’t seen since the days when Bengie Molina manned the cleanup spot in the lineup.
They oughta give all the sacrifice fly coaches promotions.
4 runs should take pressure off of Roup to pitch perfect.
Roupp just a solid no BS approach a just throws strikes with low pitch counts!What a concept to win games..He’s been great and number 3 starter for sure..
Lee howling “no vamos! No vamos! Yo lo tango!” on that pop up
In any language a wave off in air are arm get the fuck away motion should work..
Crazy Devers has had only 1 play at 1st thru 3 innings,that’s a good thing.K’s and outfield outs so far the ticket..
Que chiste!
Devers is animated tonight.
Showed some good speed getting that double against Acuna’s arm and Windmill sending him right call with Profur’s weak arm..
Roupp Dee Doop gets through 5 in under 90.
DO NOT bring in Hjelle roll.
Fucuña got quite the arm.
Looked to me like he missed the tag.
And I couldn’t see where he definitively came off, either.
Yeah he missed the tag and Bailey never was off the bag.
That’s 2 calls this ump crew has missed with Chapman obvious HR ..
he was off the bag in between leg touches and the tag stayed on
that’s a classic baseball moment. Batter smashes a drive off the wall then finds the ball waiting for him at 2B like an arrest warrant. I remember Jack Clark befuddledly puzzling over one at Candlestick. WTF?
No shit. Acuña nonchalants the bounce off the wall and guns him down easy peasy.
I liked Ritzo on radio until just now when he trotted out “flashing the leather.”
I hate old expressions almost as much as new ones…
Handling the meat?
They’ve learned to ignore Matty…
Who does Ramos think he is hustling like that?
Braves announcers ripping Ramos, saying he’s lucky it worked out.
he is but he doesn’t give a shit. He ignored the long (and well televised) lecture he got in the dugout afterward.
Good to see Ramos completely avoiding eye contact with Willams rounding 3rd.
Devers on base holding his helmet in his hands in between pitches says a lot about the humidity there.
all right Wilmer!
Wilmet!
OK, 9 runs should be enough to end the losing streak. How many laughers have they enjoyed this season — 3 or 4?
BR says they’re 9-7 in blowouts
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SFG/2025-schedule-scores.shtml
Been awhile. Took time to locate…
Wilberrr.
Ha, Wilmet puts one over the wall.
MR.DH ED 3Run Homer!!! 9-0 !!! The ass kicking from yesterday worked atleast for 1game, their hitting well tonight go figure?
Yeah I wouldn’t bother with Windstop Williams either,Ramos might of got chewed out by the coach(JD?) but he scored easily,stop being a based to base team go for it!!
Nice pitching all game.Roupp 5 innings shutout ball, and Highway to Hjelleand Lucky Luchessi quite a nice job by him so far as Miller’s replacement..Still would add more pitching at deadline,reliever and especially a back end experienced SP..
That should have happened yesterday. And maybe it did.
But to crucify a guy like that on TV means Williams should be fair game as well.
I vaguely remember Williams as a 3B coach with Melvin in Oakland. I think he’s lost some acumen since his cancer fight. Just a guess, really.
That is a thing called a WIN.
Much needed, hopefully everyone can relax and play ball. Pads lost today too.
Roupp the stopper!
huh. 10-8 in hits.
Roupp Dee dooooooooo!!!!!
Just watched the replay of the chew out and Ramos never made eye contact with martinez either.
too funny.
just have to wonder how this carries forward. They did things right and they won. Got walks, played defense, hit the ball.
tomorrow?
Tomorrow they’ll sing Yesterday…
lulz
9-0 is also the score given if the game is a forfeit, so Atlanta didn’t do any better than if they had not shown up at all, which I find kind of humorous.