Under .500 Again
Ok, so maybe it’s not Doval’s fault….
He still sucks and I’m glad he’s gone….
But, our bullpen is now in predictable disarray without him or Rogers.
At least it’s an interesting start with The Wiz today. Any of our NY Flap contingent going?
A Place To Talk About Giants Baseball 
July told us that the Giants weren’t ready for prime time. So, I am not too disappointed about what happened yesterday or what’s going to happen for the remainder of the season. The decision to trade Rogers, Doval, and Yaz is all about the future . . . Specifically, the Giants potential of striking gold on a prospect or two in the return haul (as NBC Sports pointed out). We wont know that outcome for a couple of seasons, perhaps longer.
Right now this is what I expect from the Giants: 1. Minimizing mental mistakes on the field; 2. Continued development of Bailey, Schmitt, McCray, Matos, Teng, Butto, etc.; and, 3. Chapman, Adames, Devers earning their salaries.
? came up in Athletic: what do Mets broadcasters think of Schmitt at 2b?
seems like going to his backhand is weaker side. I thought he has been OK going to his left and cutting off balls hit that way closer to 1b. Unfortunate Dom made a mistake yesterday, he’s been solid over there.
Rag on Giants minors all you want, but right now 3 starting position players Bailey Schmitt and Ramos all came from there along with most of pitching. Before trades Giants had one of ML best pens and most of them again went through Giants system. This is real goal of minors, not winning AA League but developing few players on those teams that can eventually help big club. Have a feeling without looking it up quite a few present day Giants played at Richmond in some part of their early years
Schmitt’s deficiency as a utility IF learning positions on the fly is just about the least of the team’s problems.
I love the fact that Posey does not sit on his hands like Zaidi did, insofar as pulling the trigger on mid-season trades. Giants were 54-56 at the end of July last season and the Giants still held on to players who were set to be free agents like Blake Snell and Michael Conforto.
Zaidi did the same thing in 2022 when the Giants were .500 at the trade deadline and could have traded Rodón, whom they almost certainly knew would not be coming back the next season. Instead, we got zero return.
Lastly, interesting column in Around The Foghorn about the possibility of Bochy, Baker or Hallberg (1st base coach and good friend of Buster’s) replacing Melvin as manager. I posted previously about Buster’s extension of Melvin being nothing more than a vote of confidence during the Giants subpar play in early July, as he could be fired early next season. I digress though . . . Hallberg is an interesting choice, but I know so little about him. Regarding Bochy or Baker, I would choose the former. Anyway, here’s the link:
https://aroundthefoghorn.com/3-candidates-to-replace-bob-melvin-if-sf-giants-decide-to-fire-him
Rangers are right back in WC race behind M’s. Highly doubt they let Bochy walk or that he’d leave them to come back to Giants.
fwiw Eldridge hit 2 bombs last night, one of which was 425 oppo shot. Gilbert had triple, Birds got bombed from what I read. But, this was in Albuquerque on near 80 degree night and stadium is at 5000 feet.
Agree Willie. Also, the reasons that AK gave are relevant. After posting this, I checked the articles cited about Hallberg’s experience, along with his Posey friendship and I am very much impressed with his resume, which includes managerial experience at the minor league level, along with being interviewed for the Giants manager position that Melvin ultimately got.
Mac is going today…
Only # 3 has likelihood of success though more likely next year when Devers & Adames acclimatize to Bay Area & Oracle Park. Chapman is standout 3B but .250-.260 BA most we can likely expect at plate.
Perhaps one or two guys emerge as solid MLB contributor from # 2 group though Bailey’s very low .200 BA neutralizes his play behind plate. Schmitt maybe best hope from this class.
As for # 1, we’ve seen absolutely no sign of improved defensive play or baserunning. In fact, I’d argue it’s gotten worse. Baseball IQ of current roster is sorely lacking
My choice before the “Play it safe approach “ that I’m sure Posey being the the new sheriff in town and learning on the fly so he went Melvin unfortunately.I really wanted them to start fresh with a younger manager and that was Steven Vogt who really has the players respect not being out of the league to long as well, so modern day players relate easier too.
Yeah Bochy&Dusty HOF managers for sure( especially Boch a lock) but to comeback here a second time would probably tarnish their managerial records..
On the way to the game. This was planned a while ago, when they were over 500. Now they’re not. Hoping it’s not another shitshow like yesterday.
Bring us a W Mac! Go Giants!!
Alright Mac let’s get a Win! Enjoy the game my man!Yeah hope the pressure of NY doesn’t get to the Whiz and he does ok in only his second start, don’t want another shit show like yesterday either..
Awesome. How long does it take to get back and forth to where you live?
Our travel company had few stores in Greater NYC area and most of managers I talked to lived in NJ.
The Angels have released first baseman and outfielder LaMonte Wade Jr.
Giants cast offs don’t often end up in clover…
Side note unrelated to the Giants. Dealing with my stepdad’s estate as the executor . . . He had a trust (which avoided probate) and it is well written, where inheritances are quite clear and without issues. However, it has been a nightmare with me more or less “playing detective” and trying to figure out what bills have to be paid, accounts closed, etc. Almost like putting a puzzle together.
So do this for your children and other heirs: Make sure you have a written trust. Limit your financial institutions – if possible, one banking account; or, at most, one banking account and one equity/stock market account.
Most importantly, have NO MORE THAN ONE CREDIT CARD AND DEBIT CARD. This last issue has made settling my stepdad’s estate very difficult, as he had approx. a dozen credit and debit cards. Related to the aforementioned – delete all old emails and have “folders” for your email account, e.g., Bills, Health Care, Mortgage, Utilities, Credit Card(s), etc.
Right now, we may get back to our WA home by August 18th, a few days before my daughter starts 3rd grade.
The loose ends are maddening. I recall leaning heavily on my longtime cpa to handle the tax returns for my father and his trust after he died.
Exactly. Again, thank you xoot for everything you have assisted with . . . Much appreciated!
looks like the Giants runners are simply ignoring Matt.
Yeah!
Devers hit the shit out of that one.
Devers on Sunday!
Boom!
there you go!!!
Awreeet Mac!!!
I think I heard Mac serenading us.
2 pitches in a row – Bailey swings at that are out of the strike zone. Sheesh.
Hey,he put it in play and got the run in.
Amazing things can happen when you make contact.
Nice hitting plus Alonso eff up and Giants add on. Ramos hustle gets another one home
Devers makes them pay for leaving Montas in there.
Giants firing on all 8 cylinders . . . Mets playing the hapless role today, e.g., clean exchange by Alonso would have resulted in double play versus what’s happened since.
Baseball 2025:
Mets are about to use their 41st different pitcher this season which will tie their record for a full season…
Well, well.
Look what happens when you actually pressure the defense and pitcher by stealing a bag (going to third on the bad throw), constantly taking long counts and forcing the pitcher to throw hittable balls instead of swinging at crap, actually making contact after contact and forcing the defense to make (or not make) plays, beating out infield hits with hustle, and fluster the pitcher with the above so that your big guy can crush one out. Amazing…
Of course from the Mets’ perspective, on consecutive days two veteran first basemen who came up through their minor league organization made similarly poor decisions that cost their teams.
Giants opened a major “Can of Whoop Ass” on Montas!
4 innings 7 hits,7 earned runs ,some major big hits Devers 3Run Bomb upper deck quite impressive, the whole team looks sharp today, they must have found out Mac’s there to raise their expectations for sure..
BoMel told Devers before the game that the Giants were actually playing the Yankees…
Hate the smaller lettering on the road uniforms. How great does this look?
That dude looked good in any Giants uni…
One more. Looks 1000x better to me anyway…
Come on Whizzy. No free passes.
Can’t get through a game without a fuckup.
Flav, you doing the Dead and Co shows? Went last night and it was pretty cool. Madhouse getting out tho.
Going again today. First time I saw them was 50 years ago at Kezar as a newly minted 14 year old stoner. My older brother took me. It was Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Jerry Garcia. Highlight was when they all played Knocking on Heaven’s Door. They played that Friday night but we didn’t go.
i had a ticket last night but couldn’t go. My friends who went had a blast tho
I get it McCray is new to RF.
But, come on dude. You can’t throw to the cutoff man, two games in a row?
On replay, Schmitt declined to try to field the crappy short-hop throw from McCray for fear of botching the pickup, knowing that Adames was backing him up — so then Adames completely biffs picking up the rolling ball right to him, and the runner jogs in to score a gimmee. Unreal…
Hernandez said it was Dom who declined to field the short hopper. IDK…
Once again with the coaching. How hard is it to throw to the 2nd baseman from RF?
Dude, the players effed it up! Bad throw and poor effort from both guys in positions to stop the ball. The guys with gloves on their hands, not manager in dugout.
Question why won’t MLB (cause this chump Manfred is racist) allow the Guardians to honor a true black slugger in their past in Larry Doby?
The Guardians should just stick it to baseball and all just wear his #14 anyway in a game.What would happen just fine the team? So what? He passed away in 2003? And yet Ryne Sandburg only past away last week but no problem he was honored immediately! Something is just wrong for sure!! Doby needs to be recognized for his great achievements in the game..
I been pushing Doby here for about 17 years…
Bat to ball skills.
Insert eye roll here.
😉
I laughed at that one, too.
Adames let that throw from McCray go by. It looked like an easy short hop. There wasn’t going to be any play at second. He was also the secondary culprit yesterday on the Dom Smith play, not Schmitt.
Not that it matters, but look at the replay.
Schmitt got out of the way of the McCray’s crap throw because it was going to eat him alive. Adames, backing up Schmitt didn’t bend down enough to get the second hop, he non-chalanted it and ball went under this glove. I give Schmitt credit for not attempting a high risk pickup of the crap throw from McCray, counting on his teammate Adames to do his backup job. Adames didn’t.
It’s mostly on McCray, he double clutched before throwing to the cutoff, which probably helped him unleash a panic throw. Why he double clutched, IDK. You pick up the ball on the wall carom (he did nicely), then locate the nearest cutoff guy (Schmitt) and fire it to him on the fly. That’s just OF play 1A …
Stop walking guys with 5 run lead
Painful watching Devers run.
Chapman 0 for 19 . . . Let’s get it going.
Pfffttt! Not this at bat.
I know they’ve scored 7, but the Ks against this chump throwing sliders 2 feet off the plate are fucking annoying.
Good 2nd game for Whisenhunt.
5.1 frames, just 3 hits with 4Ks, with one earnie — on the road against a good hitting squad. Generated some confidence for going forward…
I thought Teng also did enough things right yesterday to be a little intrigued by his next start. The pitch to Alonso should have been a couple inches higher, but it wasn’t terrible.
Agree about Teng . . . He pitched well in the PCL and that is a tough league to pitch in. Hoping he does better. I think Melvin said yesterday he’ll have another opportunity to start or at least “. . . be an opener.”
No sense over-using Webb and Ray or rushing Roupp back at this point. Throw everybody out there…
Bailey struggling to get his OPS over 600, and the ump completely hoses him in that AB.
mafia man gets ‘er done
I’m picturing Ryne Sandberg with Stanek’s heavy metal hillbilly look.
Dom worked that, awesome AB.
Teammates should watch that guy. Professional AB …
Chapman too.
Making contact is a wonderful thing…
No disrespect to Sandberg.
But, Kent should be in the HOF along with Sandberg.
Kent’s offensive stats are mostly better than Sandberg’s. Kent has over 450 more RBIs. Kent with 2461 career hits to 2386.
Kent easily wins the career OPS at .855 to .795. His HR wins again by a mile at 377 to 282. Somehow, Sandberg takes WAR 68 to 56. Kent was an MVP, Sandberg was not.
If Kent had played for the Cubs, he’d be in the Hall for sure.
Yeah I’ve been pushing Kent forever, like Loo for Doby..
Hey I loved Ryno Sandberg so for sure respect ( always tried to get him in my old baseball fantasy day are Roberto Alomar , way before the Kent days who would of been fantastic in fantasy) anyway Kent is the ALLTIME leader in HR’s among all 2nd basemen and his RBI’s every year was stellar! Like he said himself which is one of my favorite quotes of alltime in baseball,
Come Contract negotiations nightmare for players, He said :The Money Lies with the RBI’s”
There is no legitimate reason he’s not in the HOF except for bias voters who just don’t like his attitude and I’m sure pissed many off like Bonds, but that’s another story with the steroids which Kent was never accused of btw, so as usual the HOF is just a joke now…
Gonna be my first win in 2 years!
go ahead with your bad self MACDOG!!!!!!
Hell of a game, Mac!!
Followed by Schmitt’s big hit.
Problem with Kent is he’s got red ass written all over him.
No one liked him.
Exactly why the HOF election process is a joke…
Mac needs to get on the Giants charter and come home with them…
I agree. If I win the lottery I’ll fly Mac to every game for the rest of the season
wow what fun for Mac and all Giants fans so far. Schmitt homers, 4 hits now for Lee. In Baggs column in Athletic, Wilmet said, “when we execute we win. “
Mac – get on the Giants bus to LaGuardia and get on that charter jet, come home with them…
Maybe that mild roster shake up by Buster has finally kicked in with some motivation?
Walker, come on man. Finish this…
It’ll be a nice flight to Pittsburgh.
Revenge tour so far so good. Next Pittsburgh.
Was gonna post this the other day, but I didn’t want to be disrespectful…
https://tinyurl.com/2nd3mc9y
Yeah RIP Ryne Sandburg who really was a great player that battled a few bouts with cancer at the end..But I have to say Red Ass are not( like Clark was) Kent just CRUSHED Sandberg Stats minus the SB’s and the fielding?But Shit come on Kent’s numbers are HOF numbers!!
Thanks Loo, interesting. the gold gloves and d in general are thing that likely turn tide for Sandberg. Kent’s peak years with Giants 1998-2002 (that this peak only lasted so long was another knock I heard on him) generated less WAR than Sandberg over long haul, again primarily due to D I’d guess. I’d sure put Kent in there, and I do think his personality was turn off to voting writers and media people.
Same issue with Lou Whitaker from what I understand.
Series Win … about time!
Way to go, Mac!
Yes! Big Gratitude MacDog!
Adames this Series: 1-15, 1R, 0BB, 6SO
the team sure is fun whe. They are ticketing the ball all over the place
Loni Andersen joins the club at 79…
Great win on getaway day. Mets need these too and they’ve now dropped 5 of last 6.
Local PBS showing first part of Ken burns Ali tonight.