I Finally Figured It Out
If Verlander pitches well we lose. If he pitches poorly we lose. Only a fool would keep running this loser out there at this point.
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Does it make any sense to go to a 6 man rotation to look at some kids and save some wear on Webb and Ray?
“I’m frustrated that our fans come out and support us every night and we gave them literally nothing today.” Melvin in Baggs column about that being one of worse games of season which sums it up.
Baggs harped on how bad Nats have been, how poorly Giants have hit at home all year (team OPS .713 and most hitters worse than that), poor OF play/lack of RH options there beyond Matos and Luciano, etc. V said he was trying to pitch to contact with 2 strikes and fewer Ks in effort to last longer which obviously didn’t work way he wanted to. He said, “stuff is fine.”
Didn’t see any of it thankfully but followed along online for a bit and gave up. Horse racing at Del Mar more exciting. Hopefully Better luck for James and Padres-at least Giants seem to compete better vs. better teams.
Paint drying at Del Mar is more exciting than this team.
great line from the Baggs piece:
“Although Gilbert is still looking for his first big-league hit (0 for 10, 4 strikeouts), at least he got a lot of practice playing balls off the bricks in right field.”
Somehow you made me think of this JFK quip in response to criticism for naming RFK his Attorney General:
“I can’t see that it’s wrong to give him a little legal experience before he goes out to practice law.”
old lawyer I worked with early on, Harvard Stanford guy, bragged to me over lunch one day that he was the player who broke RFK’s leg at football practice.
I like schmitt at 2b but bat is 14-66 and 2-18. Having better August (.757 OPS) than July (.510). May it continue.
he and Koss have played 2B about as much, with similar DP numbers (11, 12, something like that). I don’t yet have an op on who turns it better. Schmitt s arm can’t be beat, but Koss plays 2B pretty well. I thought starting Koss behind Webb last week might be a Melvinian signal. Maybe not.
Why would Turdlander ‘pitch to contact’ with 2 strikes?
He said, “I’m trying to get deeper in the game. I don’t want to pitch to keep pitching to get swing and miss or strikeouts.” He said he was trying to keep guys off balance and from making solid contact on barrel. His words, not mine, in Baggs column.
Stumbling toward .500. A solid effort Fri, wasted opportunity Sat and utter wasteland Sun.
Did quick math which means I’m probably wrong but think Giants 9-13 record at ORACLE vs teams BELOW .500. Got swept by Marlins & Pirates and lost 2 of 3 to Nats.
2025 Giants continue to surprise and disappoint simultaneously. Model of inconsistency. Only reason Giants still wild card contender is ineptitude of Mets – losers of 11 of past 12 games.
If this pattern continues and Giants miss playoffs (likely scenario), Posey faces tough decision on Melvin and changes to coaching staff while needing to continue roster overhaul in RF, 2B, 1B (Eldridge ?) and additions to starting rotation.
ML contracts are weighted to team control in early going. R Rod, AS and current closer, makes $740K. Absolute steal for club and he isn’t arb eligible for 2 more years.
Suarez, Pads closer, is in final year (#3) of $30 mil deal. Set up guy J Adam makes $4.8 million.
Like I said, this is SO much like the Niner season where the absolute ineptitude of the DC and special teams coaches was readily apparent by week 4.
But no, they stick with the shit and end up sucking hard.
Not that firing Burrell and Williams is as important as Sorensen and Schneider were, but the fact remains that not doing anything is just passing the buck, giving up on this season, and jettisoning them at the end of the year.
Unca– how worried about our O-line are you? I feel like we are an injury away from it being awful.
They actually showed out OK yesterday. That was encouraging as Devers was playing their defenisve starters for the first few series. That being said, Burford at LT was a disaster. Hope it never comes to that.
This team is woefully thin in as lot of areas, esp O line, and looking at yesterday, getting past the 2s is an issue, but that’s true for everyone.
If the O line stays healthy, mainly Trent Williams, we should be OK. McKivitz still worries me, but the hope is that Bartch stay on the field. He’s great when he isn’t hurt. Brendel at C? Bartch has to play well . . . Puni is a bona fide stud.
Lotta fucking ifs there but what do you do? I wish they drafted more line help, but I’ve been saying that for 5 years now. Hennessey as the backup center looked good. The whole point being, if the interior line plays well, then the tackles can focus on their job. The run blocking was decent the first few series, and we were playing mostly backups.
Interested in watching Hennessey as the backup center. He may win the job if he keeps playing like he did.
BFs lede is exactly right and echoes what I posted yesterday after the Verlander scheise show of 11 hits in under 4 full innings. Giants essentially give away a loss when they throw him out There to start, regardless of how the loss happens. I guess it’s the money, that’s the only thing I can think of keeping him in the rotation. If that is it, this organization can’t be believed when Buster or Melvin or whomever says they want to win and still have playoff designs.
Buster’s new at the job, but he seems to be pulling a Bochy and sticking with some guys a little bit too long.
New version of Pharaoh Sanders tune The Creator Has a Master plan by vocalist Tyreek McDole. Sax solo on it by Pharaoh son Tomoki. Well done.
“In my heart how I yearn for that spirit′s return”
“On your chest I leave a shit tower”
– Il Duce – Mentors
your fantasies are hilarious chuckles. How’d your tourist trap trip go?
Awww, poor baby. Jealous again?
Don’t want you hurt your delicate feelings.
chuckles you’re so butt hurt you can’t stop googlin. I’m very sorry I upset you the other day. Really. Lol
Sorry my dick joke upset you so.
Your joke dick? Jeez.
Wow. Can’t wait till you get out of 3rd grade. Maybe you can take a little heat.
zzzzzzs
Harper really doesn’t like our ballpark. He likes Jeff Kent though. huh.
https://x.com/talkinbaseball_/status/1955046410463645923?s=46&t=k0FDC_rVBvlG86Y-OHTiNQ
Wow. Stalker much?
Ain’t you special?
here we go.
Dom up to .286 which is like .335 in the old days…
Strike 5 to Bailey and he’s asleep.
“Giants strand 2” (Kuip for the thousandth time this year)…
I think I heard James cheering for Chapman on that play.
Gilbert shoots a duck.
And gets shot down himself.
Gilbert thrown out at 3rd to end the inning, welcome to the Giants.
we got fun n games…
These games are too fast. Find some fuckin middleground…
Webb going for Bill Swift’s groundball out record.
Genius trade that gets no recognition…
Did he lose that game?
Time to get over Sadecki/Cepeda which actually made a ton of sense at the time…
True. Nowhere else to play him or Mac. I think Rigney tried to play Cepeda at 3b, which he absolutely hated
And desperate for a lefty SP. Sadecki won 20 for WC Cards in ’64 for the young ones here…
Young here is 60…
iPads are new hitting coaches.
I wonder sometime about the offsite individual training/clinics that some players do, and how it may differ from the team coaches.
For being a catcher, Bailey has no clue where the strike zone is. 2 fastballs way in the zone he watches.
Huh. I remember Remlinger beating the Giants a couple years later as a Red.
Gilbert one man comedy show tonight.
Krukow and Kuiper did some gaslighting about Carlton. They kind of made it sound like he was great for the Giants. He was washed up and terrible for the Giants.
Yup. Like Randy Johnson getting win 300 with the Giants, it’s a dusty footnote to their otherwise HOF careers.
You didn’t crack open the champagne for JV’s 3500th? Like Met fans when Sheffield hit #500 with them…
I can still be amused at Sandoval asking for the ball when he got his 200th double.
Late September 77 – Lee Mazzilli removing himself early from the game to preserve .250 average…
Formerly known as BSing…
Three blown saves in ninth innings cost Verlander three wins. Why does that get forgotten?
Cause we’d have less to complain about…
Good point.
Devers ties it up.
and that was tonight’s highlight I guess.
he seems to have regained his health. Just a bit late.
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a run
A RUN!!! It’s a miracle but Devers goes yard to tie it up and end their latest run of scoreless innings..
15 straight scoreless innings ended!
0-2 mistake.
Oh well. It was boring while it lasted. Now it truly sucks.
Webbie is learning from Turdlander how to not put guys away.
That was really quick.
“that was not a hanging pitch,” Kruk said, after the double and he was right. It plunged to the very bottom of the zone on the edge. Got pulled though. The HR pitch to Fermin however that fucker hung.
First its Freddie Freeman killing us.
Now its Freddie Fermin?
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Chappy grabbed his left lower back when he crossed first…
With all the Ks he makes, he’s not used to running to first…
Krukow always makes it sound like the top of the strike zone is the belt. It’s not. It’s halfway between the batter’s shoulders and the top of the belt, when the batter is in his stance.
There’s no reason for Krukow to be giving the viewer misinformation on this.
Tell that to the umps for the last 30 years. Do you see anything called over the belt?
Bailey with 3 caught looking k’s.
It’s a distorted view from the center field camera. The camera is elevated. If the camera was at ground level it would look different.
Not that much. Guys in the early 70s were getting called out on higher pitches.
I know the strike zone has been tinkered with by MLB in the past.
I so look forward to the pitch replay challenge coming to MLB.
If they set the strike zone to what the rules say, there will be a ton of 20 k games.
I think it’s worth trying. MLB can make adjustments.
It’s changed since he pitched. He may not take that into account. Or he goes by the box. Or he just says any fuckin thing at this point…
I actually think the last option.
Yeah, the latter. Kruk yesterday comparing Gore’s curveball to the best of Carlton’s breaking ball (his was actually a slider) in his heyday was way over the top stuff, laughably so…
Quite a hat trick for Bailey.
Perhaps after his 2 ABs ending in a called 3rd strike, Bailey might have considered swinging his bat at a close pitch with 2 strikes against him on his third AB ?
Maybe after the 6th, with Webb giving up two doubles and a walk for a run scored, and 90 pitches in, Melvin might have just said thanks to Webb for a nice performance, and brought somebody in to start fresh the 7th. Especially since Webb has had trouble lately with giving up runs later in the game. Bochy probably would have pulled him there, regardless of any protestations. Melvin is not the greatest with handling the pitchers, especially for an ex-catcher…
He ain’t got nobody —that he can depend on
Boch had many options. But Melvin still sucks…
That he knows of
well end of 2016 things finally went bad for bochy and the pen. But Melvin probably is substantially responsible for this team’s failures. Gotta be.
I think I heard James stifle an f bomb on that Chapman error.
I heard Krukow say we struck out 84 times tonight.
That’s all ? …
Wash rinse repeat. Augh. Thank god football is almost here
The Giants actually have more HRs and RBIs than the Pads over this season. I find it hard to believe there are actually a few MLB teams with worse offensive stats than SF in a few categories, but it is true…
On the radio feed, seems like a lot of fans still there, and loud. I imagine you’ve got to drink a lot before and during the game to sit through the near guaranteed nightmare of a team — game after game…
Devers has to adapt to Oracle like Mays did to Candlestick…
now Devers is dinged again ? Grabbed and punched his hip in the box and barely trotted toward 1B. Great.
Well, Gyros now 7-18 in the last 25 home games.
I wonder how long SF fans will continue to go out to see this merde, game after game. If fans keep going and spending in large numbers, why should ownership have any incentive to present a better product?…
the resurgent attendance this year is odd. It could still bottom out.
We have a loyal fan base with a few extra bucks and a couple of hours to kill…
To me, the 7-18 oddly doesn’t sound THAT bad, but then hearing they’ve lost 11 of the last 12 at home — that really sounds bad…
Well that 7-18 is the worst in baseball since the A/S Break. Of course if Posey wised up and got rid of atleast Burrell&Williams( particularly Burrell his 2 years as hitting coach has to be among the worst in baseball)at the start of July it could of helped just team morale since none of the players believe their any good.Posey will learn that loyalty means squat in baseball.And his other mistake is giving his lame duck manager a vote of confidence! That’s an automatic Death Knell..
Ray may thwart a sweep tomorrow.
Watching “The Jackie Robinson Story” made in 1950. The guy who played Jackie was dreadful…