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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 20, 2025

Giants have started a pattern where they score in the first inning never to be heard from again. Someone tell the bats there are 8 more after that one.

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  1. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 8:21 am

    Teng might be pen guy, but doesn’t have much command, obviously. Btw the HBPs and leaving meatball up to guy with 0-2 count…

    Adames column by Baggs in TA was great–.he has lot of heart and enthusiasm and says the right things. As to his baserunning (and Giants overall) though, he has one of the worst OBs in the lineup at .308. If he got on base more often then he could take more advantage of it! this doesn’t take analytics genius to figure out. As could entire Giants team. Giants are tied for 13th NL for OBP. By contrast 2025 Brewers lead NL in BA and OB and have top 5 OPS.

    Koss and Schmitt are learning hard lesson given more PT: messing up the routine ones hurts the team and pitchers. Both of them have multiple errors since starting more often in last week.

  2. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 20, 2025 at 9:03 am

    Woe was the Giants last season, that I was the first one to endorse signing Adames back in August of last season. As you alluded to Willie, he has been one of the worst Giants signings in years. My bad, as he looks more like the 2023 “Adames” model versus last season. I do NOT think he gets better in future seasons. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him.

    I feel the same way about Chapman. He gets worse going forward . . . and yes, we are stuck with him to the duration of his contract.

    Similarly, Koss, Schmitt, Fitzgerald, McCray, Matos, Bailey, and Knizner will ONLY be journeyman roster fillers.

    I think we can build around Devers, Lee and Ramos. That’s it. Three reliable hitters going forward.

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 20, 2025 at 9:17 am

      Devers recent inability to hit an average mlb fastball tempers my enthusiasm for him. WTF is going on with this great hitter?

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on August 20, 2025 at 10:41 am

      Exactly right, blade. That list of AAAA players has to be replaced by players who don’t K constantly coupled with low SLG, the kiss of offensive death. Giants need at least 3 years to get the supposed very good lower minor league players integrated into the big club. And, from past Giants player development failures, there’s no guarantee any of them translate lower minors success into contributing major leaguers. Objectively, we’re looking at .500 type results the next several seasons, with lots of changes. Hopefully, Posey will be free to do the dirty work necessary to get the body healthy…

      • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 11:31 am

        There isn’t much of a correlation between how much a team strikes out and how many runs they score. The Giants and Dodgers have nearly the same number of Ks, both are a little over the MLB average per team. The kiss of offensive death is having a low team OPS. The Royals, among others, don’t K much, but their offense is no good. It is pretty difficult to avoid having a low team OPS/lousy offense if your slugging percentage sucks . . . .

  3. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 20, 2025 at 9:42 am

    Diggity was at the game last night. He said the highlights were all the hot women and the kid who ran around on the field eluding security for a long time

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 10:10 am

      Very cool. Monday game had collection of nice looking blondes right behind home plate. Somebody said Pads big board has great trivia stuff on it and I do remember one about Mark Grant who was in booth doing game for them.

      btw, watched some of Aruba team in LLWS yesterday. They are in semis on Int’l side of playoffs. One of the kids listed Bogaerts as his fav player and it turns out that’s where X is from. He’s one of 6 ML players from there including Sidney Ponson.

      • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 10:22 am

        Gotta love those exotic names. Sidney and Bogie, nice combo.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 20, 2025 at 11:07 am
      • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 11:41 am

        The YouTube poster screwed up the band name!

  4. xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 20, 2025 at 11:44 am

    this Venezuelan kid is about 16 I think. Let’s hope they sign him. Let’s hope he doesn’t spend five years attracting accolades below that prove hollow herd, like Luciano. (As to the contact maven Venezuelan picked up in the Doval trade, he dinked a broken bat single over the SS for Sac last night. Can’t wait.)

    https://x.com/bosummers28/status/1958199827818291497?s=46&t=k0FDC_rVBvlG86Y-OHTiNQ

    • xoot's avatar xoot said, on August 20, 2025 at 11:44 am

      hollow here

  5. James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 1:54 pm

    In the post WWII era, I think I’ve found the perfect group of hitters for the Flap: The 1949 Red Sox

    The team OPS was a very healthy .802, yet the differential between OBP and SP is among the smallest in baseball history for any team with an OPS over .750 (.381 OBP, .420 SP). In other words, these guys didn’t hit that many bombs and embraced getting on base, but did so with a nice 282 BA, while limiting their Ks to a paltry 510. Those bean towners loved putting the ball in play! They even threw in 78 sacrifice bunts to burnish their small, but not too small, ball credentials. Oh, wait, I just checked the stolen base column . . . .

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 2:14 pm

      yeah that was during Stengel run of 5 year domination by Yanks. BoSox won 96, finished 2nd and that was end of season. Bobby Doerr was on that team, .309/.393/.397, Ted Williams etc. Read something about those guys not too long ago–David Halberstam book maybe? Red Sox reunion to see Williams in Florida before he passed?

      • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 6:37 pm

        I don’t care about the mechanism’s individual units, Willie … just kidding! I look at Doerr’s stat line and think “Man, that guy’s gotta do a lot of work for a good, but relatively modest payoff.”

  6. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 2:20 pm

    Just read column in Athletic titled Year of the Southpaw that shows how dominant LHP has been this season. Turns out not even RHs can handle them and 2025 shows dropoff of 50 points of OPS since 2016, from.766 to .716. Not everything bad only happens to Giants.

    • willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 2:36 pm

      But this is still why Giants are so futile against them, right? The Giants RHs aren’t doing jack just like rest of baseball. Melvin almost always has 7-8 RHs in there with Lee (who hits LHP well as it turns out) only regular in lineup beside Devers.

  7. willedav's avatar willedav said, on August 20, 2025 at 2:32 pm

    2021 RHHs OPS vs. RHP was .711, in 2023 it was .714, this season .707 and there hasn’t been much fluctuation over last 5 years. Vs. LHP in 2023 it was .760. Now it’s down 44 points. Tarik Skubal noted at AS game how many lefties were there and as column points out there were a few deserving guys left off like Phils LHP we saw Cristopher Sanchez. As Jake Cronenworth said, “There’s not only more of them but they’re becoming extremely dominant.”

    As for more of them that is point of contention-lot of hitters, not just LHs, don’t see many lefties in minors so struggles aren’t as obvious. At ML level RHP ERA is 4.30 LHP 3.73–about biggest difference in 100 years. LHP ERA in 1992 was 3.97.

  8. sandog's avatar sandog said, on August 20, 2025 at 3:55 pm

    Test

  9. sandog's avatar sandog said, on August 20, 2025 at 3:57 pm

    Another highlight last night was a dude sitting by himself in a Curt Casali jersey keeping score!

    I took a picture of him, but I should have approached him and gave him some love.

    Maybe 15% Giants fans in the house, but they were mostly fully geared up in jerseys and hats which was cool to see during these down times.

    • Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on August 20, 2025 at 4:40 pm

      ok ok but we are still in the WC race, right?

      • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 6:39 pm

        Tonight is the biggest game of the year, it’s all on Roupp’s shoulders.

  10. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 20, 2025 at 6:58 pm
    • James's avatar James said, on August 20, 2025 at 7:20 pm

      That was a lot better than the bottom of the second. George Blanda representing is hilarious.

  11. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 20, 2025 at 7:54 pm
  12. alleykat69's avatar alleykat69 said, on August 20, 2025 at 8:17 pm

    I’m more concentrated in the Fantasy Draft then watching the Giants get hammered again..They are just an embarrassment and Posey needs to clean house in the off-season in the coaching department..And I feel for Posey he has to be pissed off after making the Devers trade I still like, ( adjusting to new league, new park, it’s not easy,but the whole team cratered, so next year bring in Eldridge and roll the dice..

  13. djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 20, 2025 at 9:25 pm

    It’s as if both teams are trying to humiliate Melvin…

  14. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on August 20, 2025 at 9:50 pm

    Another mediocre pitcher (Sears) looks like Cy Young pitching against our inept squad. My stress ball would work better if I could shove it down Melvin’s throat.

    ‘Nite all . . .

  15. Paul Sorensen's avatar Paul Sorensen said, on August 20, 2025 at 10:15 pm

    At the beginning of this season, I wasn’t really sure what the offense was going to look like, but figured it would be better than last year anyway, and would maybe even get better as the season went on. I did think the pitching looked very solid, so there was no way I thought this team would have a negative run differential. That’s been the most disappointing part of this season: watching a fairly solid positive run differential just slowly and painfully dissolve into the negative. Sad.

    • djloo27's avatar djloo27 said, on August 20, 2025 at 10:23 pm

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