Honestly I’m Glad It’s Over
What a maddening season. We missed the playoffs by 2 games. I didn’t look it up but didn’t Walker blow like 7 games in the second half? The Giants have obvious holes starting with a shredded bullpen and a pitching staff that is completely out of gas. They need to look at how and why that happened since it didn’t seem to happen to any of the teams that made the post season….
At least they got to 81 wins. Goddamn did I talk about that enough over the last 2 months? lol. I fist pumped that final K pretty hard and in that moment it felt like we’d won something. That was fun and satisfying.
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The 49ers may be praying for .500 as well.
Melvin is out …
Yeah, just saw that. Buster ain’t f-ing around this off season….
are you ok against the typhoon?
Thanks for asking. My current city Da Nang is getting rocked and flooded…. often happens this time of year. But I’m visiting the US now (AZ… had floods here too!).
oh great! Flash floods in the desert!
Yeah, good to see Buster do the deed. Kinda wanted it earlier, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Shit, between Doval and Walker’s collective failures, we could have 8-10 more wins.
IMO, the key thing Buster must do is hire from the OUTSIDE. Get a fresh set of eyes on this organization to evaluate how it operates, how it teaches, and how it develops players. Make the needed changes. Make people uncomfortable. Get rid of the ossified approaches. It isn’t working. The team played bad ball most of the season. Errors, mental mistakes all over the place, stupid approaches at the plate, blind to situations. That has to end. Enough of this bringing in a field management team full of old Giant retreads and cronies…
Yeah, they need to start over with the farm, the scouting, and the drafting.
It had yielded very little in the past 15 seasons.
Exactly snarkk!
Knowing we missed by 2 games and all the blown saves. Stings a bit! With all that went on I wonder if Posey will get some criticism for selling at the deadline? Having Doval (assuming he didn’t implode like he did in NY) and Rogers (and Rodriquez used less as he was earlier) we almost certainly make the playoffs…Such a bummer:(
We get a chance to see if the Niners are a good or average team Thursday. Rams were gifted the win yesterday by 2 bonehead plays yesterday by the same guy. They have holes like we do. Go Niners!
Paul, I’m in Bisbee, if you happen to pass through give me a shout!
Picturing Paul in a flooded desert screaming “BASSBALDY!!!!”
it’s astounding how many people get taken out by these floods. They see 2 ft of water and think “nothin to it”. 2ft if moving water can easily sweep a car & contents away
As far as I am concerned, they need to fire the entire scouting department, the Giants had to get someone from free agency to be able to hit 30 homers, they haven’t had a gold glove outfielder since 1986 I think, don’t remember if Bonds got one. Now we have only one possible power hitter in Eldridge. Who are the scouts looking at? 50 years of ineptitude. Just awful
From what little we saw of Eldridge, I’m not sure about him at all. Yeah, when he squares it up, it goes. But, how many Ks is he going to suffer? 35% K rate? Higher? I’ve said before, history tells me to be dubious about a guy this tall, and his short time up didn’t remove that. Plus, ahead of him at 1b is Devers, and Dom Smith, who I hope they give a 2 year deal — great contact hitter, which is what they need. So, is Eldridge at 21 going to be the primary DH ? If he turns out to be an Adam Dunn type power dude, then I’d be OK with it…
Very limited sample obviously, but I don’t think Eldridge got anyone overly excited. Adam Dunn hit 462 homers and had a 4 year stretch of hitting exactly 40 on the nose…
The kid is only 20 and he’ll get better as he progresses. Hopefully. if he hits 30+ and drives in 90+, he can strike out 225 times for all I care.
Eldridge is gonna be DH. Devers at 1st. Dom needs to figure out how to play the OF.
Really that’s all we got now.
It’s gonna be interesting to see what Posey ends up doing and how much rope ownership will give him. Lots of things need fixing within the org. and our minor league system should be our #1 priority imo.
So far, I’m encouraged. They’ve let Buster go after Chappie, Devers and Adames, and fired MoTel (I’ll turn the light out) Sux.
I mean, they HAVE to see what the Dodgers and Padres have spent, and know that they have to do something other than break even.
Buster is the ONLY one that hasn’t been in a 24/7 coma since he was hired. I am so bored and freakin’ tired of these .500 or below seasons. However, THAT ISN’T HIS FAULT. Dude wakes up every day and is trying to make the team better, e.g., loved his stove pipe and mid-season trades to improve the club.
Eventually, this organization will get his drift – that the last 7 seasons are not acceptable. Like snarkk said earlier, this organization has “ossified.” I have no idea beyond ownership, whom in the organization lived and breathed those 3 championship years besides him – either get those folks back as coaches, executives, support staff . . . or, get folks from organizations winning now. All the vestiges of the last 7 years need to be evaluated and if found wanting, GET RID OF THEM.
We should pilfer some scouts from Cleveland or any team who finds good players. And some coaches who actually teach base running, how to bunt, how to execute a pickoff move, how to catch a fly ball, patience at the plate, that kind of stuff.
Exactly Winder. Not saying we don’t have those in-house, but why are we so poor on fundamentals of the game?
Shit, go after the A’s scouting department. They have done a phenomenal job finding talent for decades. Sure, they trade it away but then they replenish over and over.
yep, thats why our farm system is so important.
Denny McLain totals for 2 years (1968-1969):
W-L: 55-15 (.786) GS: 82 CG: 51 IP: 661 Shutouts: 15
For awhile he was just lights out. Amazing pitcher. Another amazing pitcher was Warren Spahn,in 1963 he went 23-7 and pitched 259 innings and he was old. They just don’t make em like that anymore.
All of major league baseball in the last 10 years likely doesn’t have 51 complete games!
Marichal in 1968 (iirc) had 26 wins and 28 complete games.
Nod to Unca . . . Sheesh, we must have done a mind meld as I was thinking about the A’s scouting too, but didn’t post it. Like you added, they never keep them though.
Hah! It can’t ALL be Billy Beane. Hope all is well in Washington.
Lyle, good to hear you’re still in Bisbee. Tomorrow I start a few-days road trip to New Mexico, also a handful of days in Joshua Tree. Will definitely let you know if I have time to come south a bit, haven’t been to Bisbee in years….
Not sure of where you’re heading in NM but sounds like you know your way around the area. Yeah, the southern route through Tombstone, Bisbee, Douglas, means you’d eventually have to loop north quite a distance if you’re heading for any place of (truth or) consequence (ha!) in NM.
The team ERA was 3.5 at the beginning of July. It went up to 3.86 by the end of the year. Team OPS was low 680s on 7/1 and didn’t quite make it to 700. The decline in pitching far outpaced the moderately improved offense, ergo the drop to 500 from 10 games over.
Hope Posey focuses first on re-building the bullpen and the fabled starting pitcher surplus before he reconstructs Giants World.
Baggs did get in a surprising little dig against whatever decision chain resulted in Teng starting multiple games ahead of McDonald. If you look at the basic AAA stats, it’s pretty obvious why they made that choice. But who knows, maybe some crusty ‘ol holdover was ignored trying to steer ’em in the right direction!
Yeah Baggs seemed to know what was gonna happen. I’d guess July swoon sealed Melvin’s fate and Melvin wasn’t Posey hire either. Might have guys in mind but can’t announce hire til Series ends. Has to be settled before FA talks begin.
Names I’ve heard are Skip Schumaker (who might take Bochy job if that’s open) and Nic Hundley (advisor in Texas FO), who doesn’t have manager experience.
Melvin wasn’t a Posey hire, but I’d bet Buster liked it more than Zaidi did.
I wasn’t the first to inquire, someone did (Blade?) a week or so ago, but I asked a couple days back … where is Kat? Anyone?
Yes, I’m worried about AK . . . Not like him to be absent. He’s also one of the few people here, where I don’t have a phone # or email address. I doubt anyone else here does either. Maybe Flav has a way to get in touch, as the administrator of the Flap, i.e., WordPress requires EVERYONE to have an email address to log in and perhaps, Flav has access to his email address?
yes, with the Big Melvin news today and no post by AK, my concern kicked into a higher gear. I started to think ‘Skink’ factor.
Bochy out as Rangers manager.
reunion time?
Let’s not.
Bochy left a hero, given some amnesia about his last couple of years with the Giants. Let sleeping dogs lie. Too much risk of damaging his hero status. Get some young gun in here who isn’t afraid of upsetting a few people…
How much longer for the broadcasters?
Kuiper is 75, Kruk & Miller almost 74…
They all are “on assignment” pretty regularly. I heard Miller talk in mid-summer on KNBR about how he was gone a couple of weeks this season with his wife on an eco-ship expedition way up to the northern part of Alaska and Arctic ocean. https://www.travelhx.com/en-us/ships/roald-amundsen/. He’s earned his time off, I suppose.
But, why not just retire altogether if you’re going to take a ton of time off during the height of the season, plus not doing some portions of the long roadies?
Kuip seems out of it and bored a lot, wrong players called out, seems to always have a tinge of negativity going on even in good stretches. Seems like an old guy now with a microphone that you wouldn’t want to cross. Krukow still energetic as a person can be with his disability, and more a homer than ever, if that’s possible. He goes from offering pretty good analyses of pitchers to opinions and observations that border on the ludicrous in the face of reality.
At first I didn’t think I liked Joe Ritzo on radio, but he’s growing on me. Just say no to Hunter Pence as a color guy. FP Santangelo is passable, if you can avoid brain damage from some of his stupid “takes”, and his incessant and unfunny self-deprecations…
As far as Flemming is concerned, I’m assuming he’s come to some understanding with the Giants that he’ll be the team’s top dog announcer when Miller and K&K finally shuffle off. I don’t mind him, don’t love him, either. Can come across once in a while as pompous, but he’s tolerable IMHO…
Appreciate the feedback, Snarkk. In any profession I guess it can be hard to know when to get out, when you’ve stayed too long, when it’s time to give a younger person a chance. Ego, money and not knowing what else to do with yourself are factors…
Mantle admitted he only hung on for the money…
Kuiper just announced he’s doing 81 home games and 20 something road games next year.
Krukow? Not sure.
I think they both said they’ll go till they die.
That’s a pretty good gig. I have no idea what he and Kruk earn. I saw something a while back that said Miller gets $625K/ year. Seems low to me? I assume they are in the same $ neighborhood as Miller. I’ll guess Flemming makes a helluva lot more with his Giants gig combined with all the side gigs he does on football, basketball and golf. I think a lot of Giants fans would keep Kruk and Kuip even if giving them up would generate a guaranteed WS win….
I don’t have ally Kat’s email. I think he hangs out at the Orchid Room in San Carlos. I drive by there all the time I could pop in and ask if anyone knows what’s up with him. Anyone know his first name? lol. I would have a better chance of locating him if I knew his first name. Popping into the Orchid Room and saying “yo, anyone here know Ally Kat?” might not get us the info we’re looking for.
His b-day is day or 2 after mine so maybe for background info check posts around August 21-23. He usually had good family party as his daughter’s was around same time iirc. Other than fact he went to long closed San Carlos HS I don’t remember anything.
Scrolling back from 8/31, the last Kat post I could find was on 8/26 at 8:47 AM…
Kuiper is again on the Ford Frick award list for the HOF broadcaster wing. There’s about a dozen guys on it. Krukow is not.
Kuiper said today that he wishes that Kruk be nominated with him as a duo, but the HOF says that is not allowed, or some such. IDK why Kruk would not be nominated, unless this thing is limited to play by play only, not “color”. Another reason the baseball HOF is stupid, nominating Kuiper without Krukow is like eating a plain hot dog at the ballpark, no mustard, no relish — and no beer…
Kruk repeats himself all the time with old school rants, but if I had chance I’d ask him how to prevent all the injuries to pitchers of today. giants had ton of them and they aren’t alone, despite trying to minimize SP innings in minors and resting pen guys to avoid back to backs.
Whatever they find out, pass it along to the 49ers.
This season is nearly shot for them after 4 games.
Say what you will about Purdy, but we are down to 4th string WRs, 3rd string TEs, and CMC. And a leaky line that can’t run block either.
Is Chris from Deetroit happy yet?
I need to watch Dr, Detroit again. That is a weird-ass movie.
Wasn’t watching end but manager pulled Skubal with 4 outs to go. He gave up 3 hits 3 BBs and K’d 14, 107 pitches…who gives an eff? Guy was dealing.
Guards shot themselves in the foot with 2 costly errors that contributed to both runs, then Ramirez got caught in run down off 3b.
Kinda hope Toronto wins it all and goes to their own Capital to celebrate.
Dogs LF E. Hernandez playing in his 87th postseason game. Wow.