Black Beards VS Phuckin Fillies…….
Is anyone else trippin’ out on Cody Ross? He’s probably trippin’ harder than any of us. This was “the bat flip” guy– the guy who was treading water in an utterly forgettable season in Florida. Now he’s getting interviewed by the National media and beaming with pride about “our pitching staff” and spraying champagne all over Tim Lincecum. Seriously, this guy has to be thinking he’s in a dream right now. We’ve seen Jose Guillen take his last at bat as a Giant……
How badly does Jayson Werth wish he was a Giant? He’d go to TOWN dying up that bad boy……
Stat of the year: Our starting pitchers went 29 innings and gave up 3 earned runs…..
Along with the rest of you, I’m bummed we have to bottle all this up until Saturday but it’s probably best for our team– rest for Buster, our young arms and our old legs is just what we need night now…….
Anyone know what the weather is usually like in Philly in the middle of Autumn?
Finally, a HUGE congrats to KEVIN who won Twinfan’s computer-give-away contest. How many computers have you given away twin, 5? We don’t say it enough, but it really is an unbelievably good-vibe thing for the blog and the team to have you offering up these great prizes throughout the year. And you guys should know that he came to me with the idea of contests, I never asked him to do it. He spends his time and money building these systems and gets nothing from me for doing it. There’s a word beyond generous for that, I just can’t think of it right now 🙂
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Idiotic?
That’s just rude. “Nuts” would have been funny.
Thanks for the etiquette lesson, asshole.
Magnanimous.
I need the rest! I expect cool evening weather in Philly this weekend.
Perfect for our staff!!!
Giants in 7….Sanchez in Game 7 shutout…
I see a marketing opportunity with Wilson and the Black Beards of the Bullpen doing a Capt. Morgan ad….
or Just For Men
cant you see Wilson and company holding their legs up humming that Capt. Morgan song?
Just for Men may ask them not to use their product…
It took 17 years, but we finally get the NLCS matchup we were denied back in ’93. And how fitting that the Giants get their long-awaited series with Philly by beating the Braves. What goes around, comes around.
MadBum, Ross, Casilla, Loogi Lopez, and Ishi effortlessly snaring the final out. What a cast of characters. This really is one to savor.
Flav, except for the possibility of rain, mid-October is a great time of year here in the East. While it does get chilly at night, the playing conditions should be just right.
As Zumie said on the last thread, good post-game coverage by MLB Network, especially in comparison to ESPN, which squeezed in a few highlights in between its latest FavreFest.
Cody Ross is a solid player.Always liked him with Florida.2 game winning hits,series MVP IMO.Got the huge 1st hit /HR to break up Lowe’s no hitter which also tied the game was the key moment in a lifeless offense to that point.
I think Twin and I were both saying early on that Ross would be one of our startign outfielders next year…well done Co-Dawg!
TBS still gives the Giants No Respect.Anybody notice the diamond emblems of baseball teams logos they show when they go to breaks? Every emblem is shown but the Giants.WTF is up with that.
Once the game was over I turned on Sports Net Central over on Comcast BayArea. You can watch all the highlights and then some!! Lots more interviews too!!
Thanks BF, yeah when I sent my address to Mike, I told him how much he does for this blogg!! What a great guy he is.
Dunderhead, how could I have forgotten Dunderhead? Fuckwad is very good but Dunderhead is still the best.
Anyone else think Lowe had maybe a few greenies before the game? At one point I thought the dude was going to chew his lip off.
This is a happy day, a happy day.
I think the Adderal wore off during the 6th inning.
This is a happy day, a happy day.
“(fudge) yeah.”
In Baggs’ post, naturally this caught my eye:
“I’m still figuring out why players douse each other in alcoholic beverages after winning a division series, but hey. Live to spray another day.”
I guess I don’t mind all the champagne celebrations, when it’s the Giants doing the celebrating. (grin)
Ostler: Bad news: The Giants won’t get back their cleaning deposit, but such is the price of fame.
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Watching the final play again and realize that play is much tougher on a left-handed 1b, who has to reach across his body. Good job by Ishi to snare it and keep his foot on the bag.
Yeah, thanks for nuthin, Mike . . . !
Not yer fault I can’t pick for shit . . .
Congrats, Kevin. Let’s hope yer good luck rubs off on the Goddamn football team.
Ah, the football team. Now that team should provide some topics for discussion between now and NLCS roster day. Is Alex Smith mentally ill? Did he completely forget who he is and what he was doing for a critical minute or two during Sunday night’s game? Did Mike Singletary once say, publicly, that coaching in the NFL is “easy” because he was born to do it? Can he get born again? And this Jed York guy, doesn’t he have the phone number of the PR firm his parents hired to handle the media when they decided to install him in the first place? He needs some, well, advice on how not to make predictions like an asswipe. They’re all in disarray. htf did it get to this point?
htf did it get to this point?, Think Eddie and his damn ambition to get into the Gambling business. Hell Eddie what the hell were you thinking. He should have gone to Vegas!!
Xoot, the prediction was made by Jed to usher Singletary out the door when the season ends. No other reason.
It was an easy call. I’m sure Jed was set to fire him if the season went south (hello 2007) at the start of the season. He was slow on the Nolan trigger. He won’t make that mistake 2x.
The greater question is, was, and will be, will Jed get a real GM?
If not, say hello to another untested HC. The pattern the Niners seems to be following is to fire guys at times when there are no candidates available (Scotty 5 weeks before the draft, Nolan midseason), which makes it appear that they HAVE to hire internally. There were no GMs available for hire 5 weeks before the draft. There were no HCs to hire during the season, and the Niners locked up Singletary early. At the time it looked like a smart move. However, Singletary is falling into the same traps Nolan did.
No HC in his right mind will come into a situation where there’s no GM and no real structure, lines of communication, or experienced football people, in the front office.
Sorry you asked?
No, no. I’m fascinated by the spectacle. I don’t think Jed needs to lay any foundation for sending Singletary down the skids at the end of the season, but who knows. I’m also really puzzled by the way the team plays. Both home games they looked like they could hold their own against anybody, and then both games they just blew it. (They CANNOT lose this coming weekend. That CANNOT happen . . . .)
YOWWWWZA. We are in this thing and its looking good. One suggestion to the Giants Brass: Move Ross up a place or two in the L.U. We all know by now that Uribe is a from the heels hacker ~ who connects decisively every now and again. We also know by now that CODE- E is a far more selective hitter with occasional power who is far more likely to get a key hit. So my take would be Uribe as the Scorpion, the stinger at the tail, with Ross as the guy who amps the rally and keeps it going.
My take on the NLCS is that the Giants eke out a split in those first two games in the crackerbox of the Beast from the East. Then SF dominates at McCovey Cove. Sanchez sets em on their ass in game three and then it’s MadBum vs. whom? Phils have three dominant or at least near-dominant starters who match up fairly closely with Timmy, Matt the Horse and the Drrrrty loogie. After those three the dropoff is sharp, sudden and deep. So going back east i see the Giants with a 3-2 lead in games.
Beast from the East has the advantage in hitting for average and in team speed. Power numbers are close. Unless Citizens Bandbox dimensions and winds favors LH hitters more than RH or vice versa, there is every bit as much a chance of a Giant hitting one out than a Philly. That team also has fewer hackers and draws more walks, so their power advantage would come with more baserunners likely. But then those Giants pitchers, earlier in the season giving out more free passes than a drunken P.T. Barnum in his heyday, have done gone and gotten stingy with their freebies lately.
Another advantage for Philly is team speed. Rollins may be a bit off his game, but Victorino is dangerous any time. Torres may roughly match him, but after him…
Biggest Giants advantages are that they have FOUR as against three Aces and they have more than a pair of reliables in their bullpen. Casilla was something else again last night and so was Lopez. Ramirez gave up that one HR in his SECOND IP vs Atlanta but otherwise has been nails. Romo is now a question mark for the 8th but ran out a fine string late in the regular season. And Sarah Bernhardt with the Blackbeard attitude is well and away the drama queen of all closers ~ when he’s not on. Dude’s on and its as easy as one-two-three.
Giants in six.
Here is part of an SI article
Finally, we are lucky enough to get another beautiful unscripted moment this postseason: Roy Halladay pitches against Tim Lincecum Saturday night in Philadelphia in Game 1 of the NLCS. Their combined pitching line from their NLDS starts looks like this: 18 innings, two hits, no runs, two walks, 22 strikeouts. Yikes.
Here is the link to the whole article, this is reall written well in describing Baseball!!
http://tinyurl.com/2da2myn
Get picks in for another system,again an HTPC- I’lll give specs later, I have to figure it out and get the components ordered. These fucks keep winning, I’ll go broke ;-0
No pick on win or lose- just total team runs, first tie breaker HRs, second tie breaker total hits for Aubrey Huff…
twinfan1@hotmail.com
Some thoughts for the in between time coming up:
1. I know now why Torres rarely bunts for a hit. As shown last night, he stinks at bunting. Too bad, since again he’s struggling big time at the plate.
2. The only LU change I would consider would be to get a speed guy on the bench for PR purposes. Lack of speed on the bases in late innings of the close games really hurts the Gyros. Rohand K’d last night (Fontenot isn’t a better AB, WTF is that?), his only appearance in the series, so having him off would be no loss. Why not Velez instead, and have him available for PRing, since these games are always so close.
3. No mo Romo in the 8th, no how, or anytime with only a one run lead. It’s Casilla.
4. Go Timmy, Dirrty, Cain, Bum. Not just for the L-R thing, but Cain throwing in the Philly bandbox is not a good idea.
5. Normally, this big 5 day layoff I would call a joke. But, the Gyros need a blow. Maybe it will help revive the bats a bit, and cool off the Phills…
6. Bonehead regularly pulls Burrell after two ABs for D if the Giants are up by one run, which I think is too early. But, he doesn’t PR for him last night in the 7th when Burrell reps the insurance run?
Watching the replay of Burrell sliding into home, does anyone think he would have been safe had he slid around the catcher and used his hand to touch home plate. tough call but it looks like maybe!!
He could have just run over McCann, he’s big enough. Then again, maybe he gets hurt, and then where are we? Pat shouldn’t have been running, Schierholz is dusting himself off at home plate when that throw comes in…
I mentioned it when it happened, Snark. I figured he left him in for his bat since the game was tied at the time.
Yeah, Loo, I get the tie thing, I’d still PR. Run score opps for this team are so precious, at that point in the game I go with the extra run chance. That’s why I’d push for a guy like Velez in the LU now for an extra pair of fast legs. The total lack of team speed hurts more against a team like the Phills that is way more dangerous at run scoring than the Braves…
Did the team fly back to SF? I was wondering if they just went straight to Philly…we get two night games this weekend? Will be great they make us the featured night game on Saturday and Yankees the afternoon game…
The Phillies fans are talking a lot of trash already…they think they are going to sweep us because the Braves sucked. Did they notice how the Reds did absolutely nothing for three games?
We just need to steal one of the first two and then take it to them at home!
Twin: It is here. I can’t say it enough, thank you. And congrats to Kevin!
Not a bad idea, Velez for Rowand, but it’s hard to imagine Bochy not having Rowand on the roster for a series vs. Philly.
There is no way even Snark would support runnimg for Burell there. You just forgot it was tied. Admit it. That’s utter nonsense. Two outs, tied, he pulls Burrell, who is not even the lead run? You know that’s bullshit.
I knew it was tied then, dillwad. I was watching it with 20 other guys standing there watching the big screen in the locker room of my health club. At the time a bunch of us were saying — why isn’t he Prunning for Burrell?
Because you’re ALL idiots? Ross grounds out, it’s still tied, and Nate goes in? You’d be postal, fuck. And with good reason in that case.
As I said, the run score opp at the time, first in the game, and Gyros near total inability to get those opps, drives my view. So, we disagree. All things right with the world…
No, you forgot. Look, I’m giving you some credit in that not even you are stupid enough to think he shoud have been removed in a tie game because he was the *POSSIBLE INSURANCE RUN*.
No I did not forget. Get that through you thick head. One thing you are not is clairvoyant about when and what other people think, though you profess to be able to do that. I don’t profess to divine your thought process. Had I that worthless skill, it would give me a migraine, anyway…
Fine. I gave you the chance to with “I forgot”. You chose “I’m a fucking moron”..
Anybody that disagrees with you is a “moron”. Explains the multiple marriages…
You forgot, and you know it. Pinch running there would have rivalled Whitey for Posey as Bochy’s dumbest move… and all of my marriages after my first were happy and were ended by a predetermined agreement. Don’t stray into that, sonny.
When somebody else guesses at your personal crap, its out o’ bounds. But, you can declare by fiat whether somebody else forgot something. Bulldust….
Snarkk’s Velez for Rowand was not a bad idea, however.
I dont think Velez is eligible for the post-season. As I have said about Darren Ford as well. I believe Velez was not on the 60-day DL and was called up Sept. 7. Hence, neiter Velez, Ford or Burriss are eligible.
“To be eligible for a team’s playoff roster a player must be on any of the following: (a) the 25 man active roster, (b) the disabled list, (c) the bereavement list, or (d) the suspended list as of August 31st at midnight. The only exception is that a player on the 60-day disabled list may be replaced by another player from the team’s 40-man roster (as of August 31) who plays the same position (i.e. position player for position player, or pitcher for pitcher), with the approval of the commissioner of baseball.”
If none of the speedburners are available, that’s unfortunate, for the reasons I stated. Rohand might as well have been an appendix in the Braves series…
Can’t say enough about Bumgarner’s performance last night.
The Giants played The Phillies tough this year and can take this series. It is not the total mismatch that the national media wants to believe.
Caught some of the post game interview with Burrell last night. He had a little twinkle in his eye. He was careful with his words but you could tell he is looking forward to this series.
Its fitting that this series will kick of in Philadelphia. The people’s champ is coming out of the Orange corner.
Queue the Rocky music…
Gotta like the role of underdog. And the Gyros are about as underdog as you can get. About the entire ECoast media has dissed the Giants all year, and give them a snowball’s chance. Fuckin Kruk (ESPN) said the Braves would have won the series without the bad fielding. Screw him, even if he’s probably half right. Valentine on ESPN is about the only guy that was behind the Giants all year, and he’s a screwball. One game at a time, and we’ll see…
Snarkk, Kruk was behind the Giants most of the year. One of the few . . .
Didn’t hear his playoff stuff. . . .
I’ve heard Kruk talk well about the SF pitching, but who hasn’t? Maybe it was Cox luv last night, but post-game he ran down the Giants as if they weren’t worthy winners, because of Atlanta fielding…
Velez, Burriss, and Ford are all eligible if they replace an injured position player. Rowand is always hurt. If they wanted to, i’m sure they could get a speed guy on the squad for the NLCS.
But has to be approved by the Commissioner…they could probably smell a skunk trying to get Rowand off the roster…
That’s a formality. Not hard at all to find an injury in October.
We want the Phillies and the national media right where we want them…expecting the Phillies will roll all over us…
We have seen these type of upsets often…’03 Marlins that beat us, the Cubs and the Yankees…the “90 Reds, and dare I say the ’88 Dodgers. How about the Cards win in 2005 on a bunch of red-hot arms?
Cards won because the AL pitchers were unfamiliar with fielding bunts . . .
Detroit . . .
DId all of my posting by phone yesterday as I left Disneyland to watch the game, then lost the battery about the 7th inning. Watching the replay right now on MLB.
Thanks to everyone for listening, or pretending to. Congrats to all Giants fans. And a huge hat tip to those who always believed, or pretended to!
Now … Giant Head, you make the point: The playoffs aren’t about determining the “best team.” They’re about crowning a champion. Two totally different things, and fans only care about champions. In most cases, they don’t have the slightest concern about how “legitimate” the champion is (note the farcical March tournament held by minor-league basketball), and certainly most Giants fans don’t care if this team is the best or not. The Giants CAN win, and we’re all damn sure ready for it. Win 8 games … any way you can … take em, steal em, accept em as gifts.
Oh … and what is it about Giants fans that they are almost always the most demonstrative on the road? Counted 25 people at Disneyland wearing some sort of Giants gear. Didn’t see as many as 10 for any other team.
Yes, there is some bandwagon effect, but Giants colors are always in evidence more than any other team’s whenever I go to another park or tourist trap. I’ve been wondering what that says about the Giants and their fans … you know, considering the gap in championships 🙂
I see people here in DC wearing Giants gear in the middle of the work day…
I’m wearin my traditional, sweat stained SF logo cap this week and until they’re done. Since the Giants get into the playoffs as often as the Cicadas come out, all Giants fans across the globe gotta rock the gear, right?…
Cards won in 2006.
who invaded Pearl Harbor?
Huh? I corrected you, you have an arguement? They didn’t win in 2005.
Yes, I was making an Animal House joke about not knowing who invaded Pearl Harbor…if the Giants are not in the playoffs, it is all sort of a blur to me..off one year was not too bad of a faux pas…
Was it over when the Germans invaded Pearl Harbor?!?!?!
Crap! The quote is ‘bombed’…d’oh!
Chuck – I remember that. It was painful to witness!
The Phillies are not a better team than the Giants on paper. The season run differentials make it pretty much an even match. The fact that Posey and Burrell joined the team mid-season makes that case even stronger. The OPSs for the respective starting line ups are a wash.
Torres doesn’t need to bunt. He needs to learn how to take a walk again.
I’m trying to imagine being a Yankees fan. The cool ride we’ve been on since the last 1/2 of September with really great, meaningful games, then win a division series — it happens every year. I could get used to this…
There was an earthquake wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry offshore blasts that come out of the San Joaquin Valley and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands’ necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a sudden apology on a baseball blog.
Fear the EQ wind! Nice, Xooty….
Well, you it’s 99.9% RChandler.
I mean “you know”
I was gonna say Jim Thompson . . .
Marlowe is a Flapper?…
Look slike early weather reports fro Sat and Sun night, clear and cool, upper 40s, low 50s…the Phillie fans will be shocked to see their hitters not hitting balls out of that park…
That’s Timmy weather!
I think the Philly fans are used to the weather there in October, Fathead.
I just got a text from a friend of mine who lives in Philly.
“Welcome to hell”
Right back at ya, pal
When I was up in Reno two weekends ago there were tons of Niner and Giants gear worn!! most has a combination Giants hat Niner jersey or vise versa.
I’ve been noticing that up here too. Most people are wrapped up in UNR but this club has captured some interest up here.
I just popped a video up that’s just too funny. I took the comment section out of the video so we could keep the thread here.
Wasn’t that video in yesterday’s thread? It’s pretty fucking good though
Yeah, I’m getting the impression that someone doesn’t read his own thread…
My kid had it on his ipod and computer before I got home to watch the game last night. I didn’t bother to watch all the way through until now, though. Pretty funny (especially today).
Yeah, that’s burning up the internets . . .
The ‘Padres choking’ line is too funny.
Did you post that, Ted?
No. Someone posting as Birddog
Macdog: let me know when you’re booted up and going.
i saw it in yesterday’s thread– it was posted by one of my few “real world” friends who blog here (bird dog and I went to college together). I just thought it was worth a re-post if by some shocking coincidence that someone may have missed it on the last thread…..
Game 1: Oct. 16 at Citizens Bank Park, 7:57 p.m.
Game 2: Oct. 17 at Citizens Bank Park, 8:19 p.m.
Game 3: Oct. 19 at AT&T Park, 4:19 p.m.
Game 4: Oct. 20 at AT&T Park, 7:57 p.m.
Game 5: Oct. 21 at AT&T Park, 7:57 p.m.
Game 6: Oct. 23 at Citizens Bank Park, 3:57 or 7:57 p.m.
Game 7: Oct. 24 at Citizens Bank Park, 7:57 p.m.
All games are on FOX. Game 6 is during the afternoon only if there is a Game 7 in the ALCS. If not, it moves to primetime.
Phillies fans are out in full force on the Splash already. It’s gonna get ugly over there. You can feel this series will have a much different tone from the last one. Charlie Manuel deserves a karmic bitch-slap from the Giants. I can’t WAIT to see Lincecum/Halladay. First pitcher to blink loses.
Yeah, the Braves had a lot of dignity. Started with that “beautiful” Posey safe slide in game 1 they shrugged off as part of the game. I expect a lot of arrogance from the Phils. In the long run, the Philly white rally towels may turn out to be as annoying as the Atl floppy hatchets, too.
The phillies had a good year but they’ll never be mistaken for a dominant team. Their fans are all a bunch of pissed off drunkards who think it’s their job to torment a player with whatever means they choose to use. And they’re full of hubris although in this case it’s false hubris. That team is totally bearable..
No, you’re right. It’s hubris
Maybe pseudo hubris.
You know, deep down they know they’re not all that. Sophocles.
It’s legit hubris, but they seem to have the opinion that this will be an easy sweep of the Giants. I don’t think they’re prepared for the fact that Giants starting pitching is every bit as impressive as theirs is. They could be in for a rude awakening. Take the first game and Phillies fans will immediately start freaking out.
I was at Citizens Bank three years ago and saw a Giants game. Nice park. The Philly fans were actually pretty damn nice to me, I was wearing a Giants cap. I struck up a pretty good conversation with a fan next to me, and we talked ball all night. Of course, the Phills gave SF a severe beat down, including a grand slam by somebody, I forget who. Maybe they took pity on me…
That video is classic… although it could get old very quickly…..
my friends gf is posting it on facebook…. I guess its already old….
Really only a couple Philly fans over there. No biggie.. a little trash talk is OK. Any of the trolls are still better than the homie doomorons…
This is when it’s exciting to have speed.Texas SS Andrus just stole 2nd.Then goes to steal 3rd.Hamilton hits a grounder to 1st as Price is covering and Andrus just keeps on going and takes home without a throw as Price’s back was turned to make the play..No Giant could ever attempt to score on that play.
Elvis is one of the fastest guys in baseball. If Darren ford ever makes the team and manages to get on base, you could expect to see him do something like that several times a year
Anyone ever gone “standing room only” at AT&T? What’s that like? I’m thinking about hitting the oct 21st gm
And I’ve got another dye job scheduled for this Friday– gotta get my head ready for game 1. I told her “go as black as black gets. The darkest night. “
Just say “Go all Wayne Newton on me, babe!!”
Yeah but the problem is BF,Bochy wouldn’t have the balls to add Ford for these situations against Philly.So it will be station to station as usual.And plays at the plate like Burrell getting thrown out.
Velez for Rohand, Kat. I don’t wanna have an NLCS end with something like JT getting thrown out in Miami…
I thought the world was going to end on December 21, 2012. I stand corrected.
It just did. Bengie Molina just stole a base in the playoffs.
It’s a post-season miracle
Bochy has no balls? Another fucking idiot. Benched Rowand, left Zits off…
he’s been aggressive, gutsy.. absurd post.
Bengie does look 2 or 3 pounds lighter (in the chest). Maybe that’s what tipped the scales in his favor (for the steal)….
‘kat: Elvis is am established player he’s not some random add on for the playoffs. As I said, if ford ever makes it up here to play and shows he can get on base enough, you’ll see him do similar shit. But as it stands, there’s no way in hell u compare Elvis to ford and somehow diss bochy on this
Why do you guys wanna mess with a “good” thing? Leave our shitty post-season position players as is. I like our shitty guys. I don’t want any new shitty guys to replace our old shitty guys. Hell, there’s a chance they could be even shittier.
Leave our shit alone!
If he runs for Pat and Ross makes an out, their best power hitter is out of the LU in a tie game. Anyone who claims they wouldn’t have questioned that is full of shit.
I hate when a bad idea is awarded. The stoopid Gomez, Cruz, tries to steal third with 2-outs (should have been there already, but lollygagged it) and gets rewarded when Shoppach airmails the throw into LF.
Shoppach, now there’s a shitty guy. He’d give NO Whitey a good run for the money.
Most probably saw this: Peterson: ” Bruce Bochy deserves credit for managing on his toes ”
http://tinyurl.com/25uhbpf
He’s been brilliant.
phillies -260
Giants+210
After winning the west at 15/1…as Trotter would say…”Let it Ride”
“Nothing ventured…..nothing ventured.”
Loved those big titties bursting out of that dress. Back in ’87 that qualified as great porn
When you read this….maybe we should be -260….
http://tinyurl.com/24jl7b9
Giants are +210? Not at sportsbook.com
Giants are +160. once again wswin, you are totally fos
sportsbook.com
rush
once again? fos?…would be the 1st time by the way…
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