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Bringin’ Back The Bat

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on December 2, 2010

If you had told me last Winter that Sabean had signed Tejada, Huff and Burrell to nearly 30 million dollars worth of salary I would climb the highest peak and scream for the villagers to drag Sabean’s bobblehead through the streets of San Francisco. And yet this Winter, I’m totally cool with it. A World Series will mellow a guy……

That clip Zumie posted last night was great. According to Kuip, Flemming had this wicked cold the day of Game 5. He had been saving his voice all day to give himself the best chance of nailing a call like that; announcers live for calls like that. Alas, the break in his voice at the end ruined it ever so slightly. Still a great call…….

 

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  1. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:00 am

    I always talk about kharma and Burrell is Mr. Kharma…I am guessing this is around a $2 mill deal with probably a $1 in incentives.

    I still think he gets a good deal of playing time in the first half and then I can see Mr. Brandon Belt will be a mid-season call-up. If he had played a full season here last year, Burrell would have been close if not over 30 homers…as Twin notes often the ability for the park to help right-handed power hitters.

    I also like Burrell in the lineup as a true cleanup hitter…

    1) Torres – CF
    2) Franchez – 2B
    3) Posey – C
    4) Burrell – LF
    5) Huff – 1B
    6) Tejada – SS
    7) Ross – RF
    8) Panda/DeRosa – 3B

  2. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:01 am

    Thoughts about Giambi as a left-handed bench bat? I like to keep him away from the Rockies…would he agree to a similar deal as Burrell?

  3. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:14 am

    If we have the 9 above roster players and have a 12-man staff, that would leave 4 spots for the bench.

    I think if Panda makes the team, they should consider him as the backup catcher. Whitehead is too much of a wate of roster space. Then I would keep Ishikawa, a backup at short (Hardy or Burriss), Fontenot (I think having vets around is a plus) and then a backup OF spt between, Velez, Schierholtz, Ford or Belt whomever wins the spot out of spring.

    Maybe DeRosa is the backup at second instead of wasting a space on Fontenot, then you can have two backups in the OF…

    • Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:36 am

      No more NO Whitey? NO Whitey comprises 98% of my comedic material. NO Whitey stays.

  4. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:22 am

    of course I always forget about Rowand….

    They are not going to be able to trade him nor dio I see them eating his last two years of his contract. So Ishikawa and Rowand will be two of the bench players.

    Backup at short is between Burriss, Fontenot or someone they bring in like Hardy or even now Ryan from the Cardinals.

    Fourth spot then has to be a backup OF between Belt, Ford, Velez and Schierpoop. Ford may be valuable to have for his speed late in games. Belt mid-season call up and not a lot of room for Giambi.

  5. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:23 am

    GH lets not go crazy with signing a bunch of old guys!! Lets keep this in perspective. Giambi is freaking 40! NO, NO, NO, might as well give Barry a call.

    • Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:45 am

      he gave some left-handed pop to the Rockies, which we seem to lack off the bench, but it does not seem plausible as I thought further about it…

  6. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Giambi, GH? I guess we should start calling you Ned Coletti . . .

  7. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Unless Hardy falls in their lap for nothing, I think they’ll now look to sew up the arb guys. I think Henry is right that only Fontenot and Ray may not be offered arb. And they’ll try for multi-years on Dirty, Torres, Lopez, Ross…
    A reserve catcher and a SS to compete with Burriss may all that’s left then…

  8. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Sabean likes sticking with a winning hand. Why not? The synergy between Huff and Burrell is one of the things which made for the winner. The quasi-platoon policy of running out the water buffalos for the first 6 innings or so of offense and then bringing in the D. men seemed to work quite well, so might as well repeat the formula.

    Signing of Burrell for a repeat also takes pressure off Belt being the callup from right outta SF. He may well benefit from a couple months or so fattening up on AAA pitching.

    One thing for sure, a lineup like GH has propounded here looks to make for a lot fewer of those 1-0, 2-1 and 3-2 early season losses against Divisional rivals in particular. It’s not quite Murderer’s Row, unless Pablo reverts to form as Panda and Belt comes out blasting with both barrels from the get-go. Even if that scenario does not play out, there looks to be enough artillery around to back up that magnificent Rotation and formidable BP.

    It’s likely that Sabean has accomplished 70-80% of his post-season goals. A couple more minor adjustments and the Halloween Machine looks ready to roll once again.

  9. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Jeeze, Twin. Now we are on the same page again. Those ante-rooms are looking pretty deserted.

  10. Same time's avatar Same time said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:43 am

    This is awesome , I was really hoping pat the bat was going to be brought back . I didn’t think itbwas going to happen till closer to spring training ao this is bad ass news

  11. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:46 am

    I’m a little surprised Pat is coming back and that he couldn’t get a better deal with someone else. He’s almost certainly not going to play full time and might have a huge chunk of his PT eaten up by DeRosa. I think his dreadful WS performance colored his value inaccurately. he had a great year. So what if he had a dozen or so abysmal at bats? The body of his 2010 work in a Giants uniform spoke to his true value in 2010…..

  12. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:46 am

    I spoze it was appropriate to put Zito’s picture up there, Flav. I mean, he didn’t lose any post season games now did he?

  13. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:47 am

    how about a spring training invite to the cards short Ryan and a major league minimum salary?

  14. Giant Head's avatar Giant Head said, on December 2, 2010 at 10:04 am

    good catching up with you guys…still basking in the World Series glow…

  15. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 10:11 am

    Brendan Bocock?

  16. dirtnrocksnreno's avatar dirtnrocksnreno said, on December 2, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Huff: ” I love you man”

    Burell: “I can’t quit you man.”

    The bromance continues…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 10:28 am

      Brokeback Giants?

  17. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on December 2, 2010 at 10:24 am

    The “Machine” didn’t want to leave his Master.Good boy,and now bend over and hit 30 Home runs.

  18. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on December 2, 2010 at 11:15 am

    According to Ken Rosenthal, the Bat deal is $1M + incentives. Home-town friendly deal.
    Pat wanted to stay in SF and remain a Giant.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on December 2, 2010 at 11:52 am

      Perfect. Burrell strikes me as one determined SOB.

  19. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on December 2, 2010 at 11:58 am

    So they’ve now signed Tejada and Burrell for less than what they paid Renteria and Uribe last year.Smart moves..

  20. Rough Trade's avatar Rough Trade said, on December 2, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    Willl the G’s want Edgar back if he too decides to play for the discounted rate?

    Clearly Burrell relished being back in the Bay Area, hitting at AT&T and playing with this group of guys. Makes sense for him to want to come back, but money too often outweighs all. It appears he said to heck with a few dollars more, I’d rather stay home.

  21. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on December 2, 2010 at 12:17 pm

    I thought the crack in Flemm’s voice made the call way more memorable. IMO, Flemming’s work is serviceable, but way too far on the upbeat side (I will never forget that gem “the Giant’s are in fifth place in the division”), and rarely memorable…

  22. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Fleming will improve with age. IMO, a play-by-play guy doesn’t reach his prime until he’s 60 minimum. Agree with Snarkk though, losing his voice at the end enhanced the call…

  23. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on December 2, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Sabes is getting smarter in his older age with these aged player siginings. Of course, winning the WS makes you, ahem, smarter, too. Burrell on the cheap and only one year wasn’t that difficult. He obviously wasn’t a hot commodity, he’s got plenty of gold in the bank anyway so he wasn’t hard to sign, and he’s good mojo for Huff. I wouldn’t be surprised if Burrell was already in the bag with wink to Huff as part of the Huff signing. And, if Burrell craters early or gets a bad injury, well, not much cash wasted and he can be DFA’d or long term DL’d with a “pat” on the back…

  24. Same time I don't know you's avatar Same time I don't know you said, on December 2, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Yea your right , I wonder if huff said signing Burrell was part of his 22 mill .

  25. stixwiz's avatar stixwiz said, on December 2, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    After these signings the Giants now are pretty close to being able to stand Pat.

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 2:43 pm

      Couldn’t help yourself, could you?

    • Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on December 2, 2010 at 3:04 pm

      I guess Sabes deserves a Pat on the back . . .

  26. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    A “pat” on the back..
    stand Pat…
    Chuckles, Snarkk, I’d like you to meet Stix. I have no reason to believe that you won’t enjoy sharing a room with him for the evening. Boris will need to know your entree selection by 5.

    Liberty Farm Duck Breast, Smoked Duck Tongue, Scarlet Turnips, Calvados Apple Sauce
    Rôti of Quail and Squab, stuffed with Mushrooms, Wrapped in Crispy Potato Strings, Truffled Jus
    Roasted Emigh Farms Lamb Rack, with Butter Beans and Chorizo, Taggiasca Olive Lamb Jus
    Millbrook Farms Venison, Farro Risotto, Braised Red Cabbage, Parsnip Puree, Huckleberry Sauce “Le Boeuf”, All Natural Beef Tenderloin, Braised Beef Short Rib, and Burger Rossini with Sauce Bordelaise

    You’ll get gruel, but select what looks good.

  27. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on December 2, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    Yeah, if you go down to Athens, G-A
    And you’re driving in your car
    You won’t get very far before
    You hear people shoutin’ out!
    What’s that?
    Buterbeans! Yeah!

    Gramps and grannies
    Kids in their teens
    Junkyard dogs and campus queens
    Yeah, everybody likes butterbeans

    Don’t you wait, don’t you linger
    Butterbeans don’t slip through my fingers

    Pass me plate full, I’ll be grateful
    1-2-3-4
    Pick ’em, hull ’em, put on the steam
    That’s how we fix butterbeans
    (Fix ’em hot hot hot)
    (Yeah, make ’em jump outta the pot)

    Come here you little butterbean you come on!
    Butterbean-butterbean
    Butterbean-butterbean
    Butterbean-butterbean
    Butterbean-butterbean
    Butterbean grows on the vine

    Some people are fat, some people are lean
    But I want you to show me the person
    Who doesn’t like butterbeans
    Yay!

    Well, you can have your yams
    You can have your collard greens
    But if you want to please little ol’ me
    You better fix butterbeans

    Don’t you wait, don’t you linger
    Butterbean don’t slip through my fingers

    Pick ’em, hull ’em, put on the steam
    That’s how we fix butterbeans
    (Fix ’em hot hot hot)
    (Yeah, make ’em jump outta the pot)
    Fix ’em for me now

  28. Kevin's avatar Kevin said, on December 2, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Since music seems to be the theme check this guy out, I don’t know how to post visuall

    http://tinyurl.com/293porp

  29. Same time I don't know you's avatar Same time I don't know you said, on December 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    The sf zoo needs to sponsor the giants cause we might be seeing alot of water buffalo outfield. Maybe a better form panda sighting …

  30. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on December 2, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    I prefer my blues electric . . .

    Rob’s fave . . .

    Joe Bonamassa

  31. James's avatar James said, on December 2, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    The mom and pop diners ’round Allentown
    Don’t really have much that a fella can hold down
    And the folks up ’round Philly and Bethlehem
    Ain’t gormet types, really, or chefly men
    Now, they’re God-fearin’ folks in that keystone state
    But their food ain’t fit for a collection plate.
    There’s things for all kinds of people to hate
    But there’s one that everybody loves
    Chorus:
    And they call it Scrapple! Scrapple!
    Corned and steamed, and hogmeat dappled
    Set by the window till it’s cold and hard
    Sliced up thick and fried in lard
    Hey what’s that swimmin’ in the big red pan
    That’s kickin’ up all this mania
    It’s scrapple, scrapple, the pride of Pennsylvania
    Well, way down yonder by the Ford Corsair
    Billy’s got his hands in Betty Sue’s hair
    Shakin’ and a-steamin’ up the roadmaster
    We can see him but we can’t see her
    Well Mama’s in the kitchen and she might see
    “Billy better let your sister be!”
    But he jumps from the Buick to the dining room
    When he gets a whiff of that pig perfume
    Well they call it scrapple! Scrapple!
    Hearty as a t-bone, slippery as a tadpole
    Any old part of the hog will do
    Neck, and the nipples, and the toenails too
    Hey what’s that swimmin’ in the big red pan
    That’s kickin’ up all this mania
    It’s scrapple! Scrapple!
    The pride of Pennsylvania
    Well up in the pen, ‘neath the big shade tree
    The laziest hog you ever did see
    Stiff in the joints, and slow in the head
    That fat boy’d be better off dead
    So grab your hammer and away we’ll fly
    To splatter his brains all around the sty
    Then we’ll be living in a world of dreams
    Chuggin’ down scrapple till we bust our jeans
    It’s scrapple! Scrapple!
    Didn’t bring a plate then fork you a hatful
    Workin’ in the field till the sun goes down
    Grandma’s whipped up twenty-five pounds
    Hey what’s that swimmin’ in the big red pan
    That’s kickin’ up all this mania?
    It’s scrapple! Scrapple!
    The pride of Pennsylvania
    It’s scrapple! Scrapple!
    The pride of Pennsylvania

  32. Unca Chuck's avatar Unca Chuck said, on December 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    OK, back to baseball . . .

  33. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Henry says Burrell’s deal has NO incentives, a flat million. It would be dumb, but other teams must have been freaked by his WS. That’s insanely low…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:25 pm

      Christ, that’s almost an insult. I mean, yeah, lousy PS but the guy *did* hit 20 homers last year. He averaged 30 in his career. He had *no* better offers? Maybe he’s just a rich guy who feels he doesn’t need to be greedy….nah

  34. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Burrell doesn’t take women to the Batcave.
    He takes them to the “Machine Shop”.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:34 pm

      I assume the shop has some drills…

    • TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:44 pm

      …and it’s all set up for lube jobs

  35. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on December 2, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    I said this earlier in the day, the skitishness from the other GM’s regarding Burrell’s post season was stupid. What was it, 13 at bats? He’s a streaky hitter, he found himself in a huge slump at a bad time. I’ll take the WS win along with all the other hot streaks he produced in 2010 that helped us get to the PS….

  36. Mega Flavor's avatar Mega Flavor said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Twins tendered Hardy— a bit of a surprise….

  37. Same time I don't know you's avatar Same time I don't know you said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Hardy would not have been a good fit for the giants I thought . Glad we didn’t make a trade

  38. Mega Flavor's avatar Mega Flavor said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Cleveland cav fans are a bunch of pussies. I don’t see the point in spending this much energy and time being angry and hurt over a guy who simply left to go work for someone else. I’ve never seen anything like this actually….

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:38 pm

      The city of Cleveland has no national identity, and they know it. Even the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame seems cheesy now that they’ve let so many crap performers in. All of Cleveland’s sports team stink, and seem destined to for quite a while.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:06 pm

      The indisputably brilliant Harvey Pekar was from, and lived his entire life in, Cleveland. How many equally great writers can L.A. claim? Chandler. That’s it. Ergo Cleveland = L.A.

      And the Indians were a fantastic team in 97. If Mota had had a soul capable of receiving the power the great Omar offered him in game 7, when they met on the mound and locked eyes, the Indians would’ve won the series. (Omar essentially says so, in the first pages of his autobiography. And who are we to doubt him?)

      Moreover, you realize don’t you that the Indians chose their name to honor (and capitalize on) the buzz generated by their Native American star player?

      These slurs against Cleveland are no better than the Tex-assss digs we endured during the WS.

  39. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    The White Sox sign Dunn for 4 years, 56 million.
    Dunn never thrilled me.

  40. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    On the other hand, James is sub-scum…

  41. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Mega Flavor?

  42. Mega Flavor's avatar Mega Flavor said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    James is the worst, there’s no doubt. But Cleveland fans are reacting like he raped and killed one of their children; it’s totally over the top…Katie told me today that she’d changed my nickname to “mega flavor” so I changed it on my ph sign in to make her smile…

  43. Same time I don't know you's avatar Same time I don't know you said, on December 2, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Quitness

  44. zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Ah, just for old-time’s sake:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ94rkwdTvQ

  45. alleykat's avatar alleykat said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:44 pm

    No doubt about it.That was the worst baserunning ever.Very comical.Great call by Miller.Thought Panda and Fruckles had their share of lowlight runs as well last year,but nothing will top Rivera.

    • zumarust's avatar zumarust said, on December 2, 2010 at 8:49 pm

      I’d forgotten he botched a chance to win the game.

  46. Del Mar Dennis's avatar delmardennis said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Fontenot returing for another year, Velez not. Didn’t see ’em bringing the Runt Jr. back.

    • xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:21 pm

      Think of him as chum.

  47. xootsuit's avatar xootsuit said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:19 pm

    You see Henry’s latest post? Fontenot signed, all the arb eligible guys offered contracts except Ray and — Velez cut loose, FA.

  48. TedSpe's avatar TedSpe said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Funny fucking shit
    But trust me…
    I would have been worse
    Somehow….I would have forced a double play
    Yes.
    I suck that much?
    At least according to the fuckface softball manager who I last played with…
    You fucking piece of shit “Hey COACH!! We’re up 20 to 3. Can Ted fucking bAt”
    Fucking Piece of shit Manager:”Uhhhhh….I guess”
    FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    and , please keep your fucking faggy ass mustache in your own pussy.
    Fuckhead
    Fuck you.(Hey Ted. Bitter?)
    A little.

    Fuck that fag

  49. twinfan's avatar twinfan said, on December 2, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    There had been talk that Fontenot would not be tendered, glad to see he’ll be back. He had some rough times defensively but he’s a good player-more than adequate utility guy.
    Feel badly for Eugenio,however. He just couldn’t polish his game, heck of a talent. I loved the wiry little hot dog. Hope he catches on somewhere..


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