Turning the Page/Bochy Bashers/Vin Mazzaro…..

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on May 17, 2011

I thought that MacDog nailed it at the end of the last thread. No matter what you though of that play, Tim’s bad throw took the possibility of the double play out of the equation. I thought (and still think) that was a catchable ball. But it really had no bearing on the outcome of the game. Tim was terrible and I would also agree with Macdog that I haven’t seen Tim lose his composure like that since…..maybe the time he got pissed off at the Rockies for the “humidified” balls. But he was really more irritated than anything else and he seemed to feed off it that game. Last night, he fell apart…….

And with Dirrrrrty going tonight, I would be happy if he could just walk less than Tim did last night. I’ll take that and hope we have our hitting shoes on…..

For the Bochy detractors (and they were all over the airwaves last night and this morning): Are you serious? Calling out Bochy for leaving Tim in is uncalled for. The same people who are questioning his decision to leave him in to face CarGo need to also stand up and say they had complete faith in Jeremy Freaking Affeldt to get him out. Affeldt? He’s been horrendous lately. And Tim didn’t pitch that badly in that inning, with a good throw he already out of it with the double play. And the ball Tulo hit was almost caught by Franchez. It’s idiotic to rail on Bochy for taking Tim out to early (which we hear all the time) and then rail on him when he leaves him in a hitter too long….

And to Vin Mazzaro: Dude, I feel for you. The manager of the Royals (who is it? Yost?) should be disciplined for leaving him in the game that long. Letting him throw 78 pitches in 2 innings could easily have caused him to injure his arm (not to mention what 14 ER’s did to him psychologically) and then promptly optioning him to AAA shows how much they care about the arms of their pitchers. If I’m a KC pitcher I don’t trust one freaking person in the Royals organization, at any level, this morning…

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(Chuck makes a bold move and storms his way to a first place tie! Plus, Edd makes a desperate plea at the trade desk for, lol, pretty much everything. See below. Go Ed!)

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Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:30 pm

Induces the 5-4-3 around the horn DP on the first pitch after giving up the leadoff single.
Who is this Gomez?
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:38 pm

0-21 . . .
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:40 pm

I wonder if the Marlins are still interested in DeRosa? 😀
stixwiz said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Thirteen pitches to the 6,7 and 8 hitters gets Ubaldo to 99 total after six. So he may hang through seven. Actually one of DeRosa’s best AB’s as he dragged the count out a bit and then lined out deep. Maybe there is a shred of hope?
Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:45 pm

Way to go Dirty.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:48 pm

Hey! I take back everything I said about Jonny.

He’s dealing AND hitting.
stixwiz said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:50 pm

After all yesterday’s blather on the board, Drrrrty has been as efficient as a John Deere mower, clipping down the Rox on 72 pitches through six; a ratio of 12 per. If he maintains focus through the middle of the L.U., he could go 8 today. It would make for a well-rested BP.
- snarkk said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:51 pm
  
  I predicted the golden egg today. Things balance…
- Rough Trade said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm
  
  And…0 Walks
snarkk said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Some consultant must have told the SF broadcasters to use: “[insert action]…And, that’s how this game [inning] starts off”. They started doing that this season, TV and radio. Picky, I know, but kinda annoying, IMO…
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm
  
  As in: “Throw up. That’s how the day begins . . .”
  
  Yeah, I said the same thing yesterday too . . .
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:56 pm

Jonny B Goode . . .
Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 1:58 pm

Unproductive outs, damn we needed an expectorant that inning.
stixwiz said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:02 pm

With his .235 up to the moment BA, perhaps Drrrty should have not been batting 9th today. Regulars with lower averages starting today include Huff, currently at .224; Fontenot at .208; Tejada with a .207 and still trying to recoup DeRosa at a sparkling .171.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:03 pm

Line forms behind me on supporting Sanchez, boys. I seem to recall some disagreement on that from the Chucklet…
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:13 pm
  
  One game does not stem the tide.
  
  Suck it, Mr Hunt. . . .
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:14 pm
  
  Or maybe it does. I don’t give a fuck.
  
  Get the win, I’m happy.
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:04 pm

Just your routine 1-6-3.
stixwiz said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:06 pm

John Deere mowers are painted green, but this one looks pretty Drrrrty to me.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:06 pm

Also noted should be the good defense played by Tejada lately..
xootsuit said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:07 pm

Sanchez has demonstrated some focus today, hasn’t he? (Or is there still time for the inevitable Gomez blow up . . . . . ?)
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:17 pm
  
  Yer lips to God’s ear, skippy.
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:12 pm

no walks and we are seeing some outstanding results. Who saw this coming? As usual, a performance like this is impossible to predict from him. I owe him big time, I reluctantly started him this week and with him facing the punchless A’s this weekend I am looking at getting some sweet stats out of Dirrrrrty for the week.
snarkk said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:13 pm

Mid May. Gamer returning to form…
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Only if it’s Sanchez would giving up something in the 8th be considered a “blow up”..
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm
  
  Yoda?
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    
    LQTM
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:22 pm
  
  How about blowing a throw to 1st after giving up 2 singles?
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm

Paging Mr. Belt . . .
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm

I am at work, Game day not working for me. Stupid IT department, has it blocked. Is Sanchez out for the 8th inning
xootsuit said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm

He’s inconsistent. Good game one time, great game the next, six innings one game, 7 or 8 the next. . . . .
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:19 pm
  
  This is his 1st time reaching the 8th, skippy.
  
  Huh. He’s leaving him in.
  
  Let the 2nd guessing begin,.
  - xootsuit said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    
    It’s a joke, pinhead.
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    
    Really? It sounded stupid for a reason?
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:16 pm

out, I mean out on the mound
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Well, he’s out now . . .
Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Shit. Need a K and a DP.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:21 pm

Well, that pretty much sucks.
xootsuit said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

I’m following on mlb gameday. I assume the throw was a catchable ball?

The computer shows Sanchez down in velocity a bit in the 8th.
- Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm
  
  No.
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm
  
  Define ‘catchable’
  
  Took 17 hours yesterday.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Loogy time.

Crazy thing is, he’s on the hook both ways, and this is by far the best he’s pitched.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

Left too many guys on and didn’t get them in.
- Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:24 pm
  
  Maybe being dead LAST in runs scored has something to do with it.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Fuck this . . .
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:29 pm

Fucking stoopid call for the outside fastball. Go with your best pitch. This day has turned into shit.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:29 pm

It’s not a HUGE break if they score these fucking runs, Kuip.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:33 pm

Oh well. Hate this fucking place.
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:33 pm

bummer. Oh well, it was still a great start. I haven’t seen how many pitches he was at but was there a reason to have him start the 8th? The BP was pretty rested, wasn’t it?
- Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:35 pm
  
  When he started the 8th? I think it was 85.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:33 pm

He was under 100. 97?
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm

And just like that…
TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm

fuuuuuck
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:34 pm

80 pitches. Ugh. No reason to take him out to start the 8th. This sucks.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:37 pm

If there’s an issue it would be leaving him in after the first two reach base.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:39 pm

2 shitty starts, and Jonny gets a win and a ND. He pitches his ass off and is on the hook for the loss.

Why didn’t Romo come in earlier? They had a rightie up when they brought in Lopez (if they made a switch, I missed it).
Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm

All right, time to get those runs back and more. Although, I imagine some fresh balls are coming out of the cigar box.
- blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:47 pm
  
  LQTM John . . . They only use the Humidor for the opposing team’s ABs. HA.
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    
    I think that’s what he means, Blade . . .
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm
  
  I think that’s what blade means Chuck
  - blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    
    Thank you Ted . . . I didn’t think I was being obtuse. Regardless, the Clown was spot on.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:46 pm

Lets go, Torres . . .

One time . . .
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:46 pm

DeRosa struck out looking????????????????????????????
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:48 pm

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Got to take some shit out on the Dogs.
macdog said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:49 pm

Kershaw tomorrow, good luck with that.
Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
- Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm
  
  FUCK.
mrmrbill said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Was my 5 of 7 prediction for this road trip a little too … optimistic?
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:51 pm

Thats the way to end it, have the opposing pitcher teach the Giants pitchers how to start a double play!!
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 2:54 pm
  
  Yeah. Bad enough they lost after being ahead most of the game but they had to add irony to finish it off as well
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:00 pm

Since we’re no longer in first place, I wonder if the brass thinks it would now be OK to try and improve upon our offense that remains dead LAST in runs scored. Fuck this.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm

“Who saw this coming? ” (Dirty’s nice outing).. yeah, I argued with you guys all day cuz I thought he’d suck..
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:03 pm
  
  LQTM . . .
blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:02 pm

I have no idea who this analyst is on the tv postgame show, but I would have to agree with him, when he says, “The Dodgers are the Giants main competition, not the Rockies . . . They have the pitching, the Rockies don’t.” No idea if this guy is a tool when he analyses other facets of the Giants, but I think he has a good point here. Anyone know who this guy is????
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm
  
  J. Fred Muggs
TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Well, get ready for more Bochy Bashing
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Mychal Urban. He’s Zito’s closet diddle-pal . . .
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:14 pm
  
  And he *is* a tool. The only reason he’d have anything positive to say about the Giants these days is because they happen to be the World Champs. He’d been ragging on them relentlessly for the past few years.
  - blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    
    Thanks Ted. By the by, I use to know a monkey that was named Fred.
zumarust said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:09 pm

Losing is not awesome. I don’t like it.
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:11 pm

I had the Bums second until the kerfuffle- but it doesn’t matter, either will be 8 or 10 back..
- Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm
  
  We’re gonna win the division by 8 or 10 games being dead LAST in runs scored?
  Read me another bedtime story.
  - twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    
    Well, they won’t be last. You’re no different than the Splash doomorons, Dennis. You never learn. You were only wrong about 200 times last year..
  - Nipper said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    
    Twin is counting every one of the “wrongs.”
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm

Losing sucks thats all there is to it!!
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:32 pm
  
  Care to elaborate?
mrmrbill said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm

Losing builds character! 🙂
- Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:46 pm
  
  I will make sure Bochy gets that message.
TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:49 pm

“There is no comparison between that which is lost by not succeeding and that which is lost by not trying”
-Francis Bacon-
zumarust said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Losing is frustrating. It reminds me of a Family Guy episode, that I vaguely remember. It went something like:
Peter was feeling frustrated, and said: “This is so frustrating. I haven’t been
this frustrated since Moby Dick was staying at our house.”
It cuts to a shot of Peter at the kitchen table with Moby Dick, the whale,
sitting there, too.
There’s an uncomfortable silence.
Moby Dick: “Do you have any Raisin Bran?”
Peter: “No….but we have some regular bran flakes, and we have some raisins.
You can put the raisins in the bran flakes. It would be the same thing as having
Raisin Bran.”
Moby Dick: “It’s not the same.”
Peter: “What do you mean, it’s not the same. It’s bran flakes and raisins.”
Moby Dick: “IT’s….NOT….THE….SAME!”
- blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 3:59 pm
  
  I know this is a cartoon, but how did they fit the whale inside the house? Kitchen?
  - zumarust said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    
    It was a smaller version of Moby Dick.
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:03 pm
  
  Yeah. And since we’re on the subject, how come Goofy can talk and Pluto can’t?
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    
    Because Goofy wears clothes . . .
  - TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    
    Thanks
Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:12 pm

Belt hit a Salami today for the Grizz. God forbid the team mired in LAST in runs scored could use a guy who hits homers.
- Nipper said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:21 pm
  
  Grab a libation, Dennis.
- zumarust said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:21 pm
  
  Belt is getting better. Good. Still doesn’t necessarily mean he’s ready for the big leagues again. He flopped the first time.
  - Nipper said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    
    Yeah!
  - Del Mar Dennis said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    
    Just like our entire offense that’s LAST in runs scored has flopped. What’s one more flopper?
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    
    Look down Dennis . . .
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    
    Insert rim shot . . .
Nipper said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Chuck in first place? That league has to be rigged.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:43 pm

Don’t fret Zippy. I’m sure I’ll fall out of 1st by tomorrow.
Kevin said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:44 pm

Article on Chris Brown of the San Jose Giants over on the Bleacherreport. could be the next Center fielder??
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm
  
  Didn’t the Giants have a Chris Brown playing for them in the ’80’s?
  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    
    Yes. he of the “I slept on my eye wrong, coach . . .” fame.
    
    He died as a contractor in Iraq IIRC . . .
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 4:55 pm

It’s Gary Brown.
It’s all relative- Flavor is bench pressing, I’m trying to put poker chips in a slot in a cup. I’m occasionally successful….See ya later.
TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm

Google’s a wonderful thing. Yes, the Giants did have a Chris Brown playing for them in the ’80′s. 3rd baseman. Pretty good BA. With the Giants. Made the AS team his 2nd full year. Went south after with the Padres and Tigers. And yes, it’s Gary Brown.
- blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:05 pm
  
  Not absolutely certain, but he also was a contractor in Iraq during he war. I think he was killed in action there. Again, not certain.
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:14 pm
  
  Whoa. I just wikied him. You’re close he *was* there and saw some action as well. But he died here in the states under mysterious circumstances. He suffered and died from burns in a fire on November 30 at a vacant house he owned in Sugar Land, Texas. He was 45 years of age. Police have never determined if his death was a homicide, suicide, or an accident. Sad.
  - blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:18 pm
    
    Ahh . . . thanks for the clarification Ted. I remember him as being a troubled soul when he played, e.g., he complained about numerous injuries, which some people thought were bogus. However, I also understand that he had matured over the years and was doing quite well (before his death). Yes, sad that he is no longer with us.
- Bozo said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:35 pm
  
  Chris Brown went on the DL because a fly landed on him (or so some players said). He was part of the Mitchell trade with SD.
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- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:48 pm
  
  Gee, thanks blade!!!
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  - Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    
    Yeah a friend of mine, his mom (in her late 80s) has given upwards of $120,000 to clowns like this. He took over her finances, but not fast enough.
  - blade3colorado said, on May 17, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    
    Obviously, they were suffering from dementia, right? I can see myself at 80 years old, with phlegm dribbling down my chin, thinking astutely, “Boy, oh boy, I am going to take this guy Meueller to the cleaners . . .”
    
    However, I am not 80 . . . yet.
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twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:32 pm

However he died, Chris Brown’s service showed how absurd many notions of what makes a man really are. Ridiculed for his hypochondria, he demonstrated bravery on a far greater stage than a baseball field…
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:53 pm
  
  Well, it took bravery sure. But just to be clear, he wasn’t a soldier. He worked for Halliburton
  - twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    
    I know what he did.
- TedSpe said, on May 17, 2011 at 6:11 pm
  
  That’s fine, it wasn’t necessarily posted directly to you. I was just trying to be clear for the edification of everyone who may not have known
  - twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    
    It was somewhat more dangerous than fielding a sacrifice bunt..
  - SanDawg said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:09 pm
    
    Now THAT was a funny line, Twin.
    I’d put it right up there with my recent favorites: Loo being on pace to get laid 730 times in 1985, Dennis asking for another bedtime story, and Ted and Snark noting all of the different butt types.
Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 5:55 pm

I shoulda read down further.

Yes, Chris Brown beggd out of a game once for “sleeping on his eye wrong.”

He had myriad issues and a pretty short career. Heard about his death, but I didn’t know the mysterious circumstances around it. I thought he died in Iraq as well, as a contract trucker out there . . .
twinfan said, on May 17, 2011 at 6:09 pm

Clemente was a notable hypochondriac..
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:14 pm

it’s funny how the brain can play tricks on you. I would have bet $1k that Brown died in Iraq. I still remember reading that. Still. Even now.
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:21 pm

watching HAWK try to post here is funny; all the venom just harmlessly flows into my spam filter…….
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:23 pm

sometimes it’s just some idiotic one liner. But my favorite is when he writes a paragraph of utter nonsense, he probably proof reads it 50 times and spends half the morning crafting it. Then he hits “post comment”. And the only person to ever see it is me when I check my spam filter once a day. Good times……
dirtnrocksnreno said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:27 pm

Is that the chump that is always bustin Chuck’s nuts on his site? Or is that Nipper? What is it with Chuck and the blog stalkers anyway?
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 8:06 pm
  
  Different guy. Dude’s been hassling me for 4 years. It started on the Niner Insider. Took him 1.5 years to find my site. This is when I discovered what a horrensously shitty host blogspot was. I forced him to come up with a registered ID, but the site lets HIM block his email from my view. To block his posts and get his email, they want ME to send them a copy of my photo ID.
  
  I’m shutting that down at some point during this lockout.
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:32 pm

No, Chuck has his own group to deal with. I don’t think those guys blog it up here. He’s at blogger.com, it’s a dumb site for blocking chumps. It’s the main reason I moved here. There are few blog-things I like better than watching some idiot craft out some dumbass, venom spewing post and then no one reads it but he and I…..
- Unca Chuck said, on May 17, 2011 at 8:07 pm
  
  I think Dennis (and me) is about the only one that frequents both. Grumpy Guy used to post here (I think) . . .
Flavor said, on May 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm

Dear idiot Trolls who I block: Just send me an email, it’s more efficient. No muss no fuss. Please send all venom-spewing idiotic, moronic, dumbass posts to: bigflavor77@gmail.com
Everything else you got, post it at the Splash…….