Going 6-0 The Rest of the Way!
Ha. Oh well, I can dream. Honestly, the Giants have done just about as good as I could have hoped for after that pathetic month of August. Through all the injuries, the DFA’s, the silent bats and a surprise September boost from a ticketless sun dressed beauty, somehow this team is still alive with the most important series of the year about to start. Who didn’t circle this series as *critical* about 6 weeks ago? And sure enough, it still is. If we sweep the D-backs then it really will come down to the final series of the year for both teams. Granted, it’s an incomprehensible long shot that we force a tie in the division, but it is at least mathematically possible. And as I said, for a team that on Wednesday started a line up that didn’t have a single player on it from Opening Day, I find that astounding and will take this moment to appreciate how they didn’t quit when they could have easily done so. They kept the games meaningful until the 2nd to last series of the year. Not bad and certainly nothing to cry and complain about….
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This team hasn’t been eliminated – True
This team has shown tremendous fight – True
Team management will have much to mull over, as we sit around the hot stove this offseason – True
But, there has to be a scapegoat, can’t put a face to injury, so that won’t work. Too many faces in the DFA or should be DFA department, so that doesn’t work either. Hmmm, think I’ll try spinning the Wheel of Blame and see who comes up. Tick, tick, tick. What’s this? Good ol’ Bow Tie. That’s right the Clown is joining the other 10 clowns in nuking the Newcomb. Presenting the prize for Peter Magowan will be Larry Baer. Come on down Bill and get your golden boot.
Is that the best we can do for an owner who finally brought us a championship? No. Hell No. Go 6 and 0 then go all Joe Carter on the Phils. Now that would be a most excellent parting gift for the man with the bow tie and striped socks.
I will write an elegant eulogy IF — IF — the need arises. In the meantime, nothing would be more miraculous and wonderful than to see Bow Tie again on the steps of City Hall after a victory parade, gloriously smirking at the executive board — with the Sun Dressed Goddess mysteriously at his side.
Is this “The Natural?”
BLEEP
Bochy, as always, perfectly handled the question about using the young relievers . The questioner gave him the opportunity to indirectly diss the kids- when asked if he would have gone with Mota had he not pitched the night before. Bochy did’t take the bait. In effect, he said that that the young pitchers were here for the same reason as the young position players- who he’s used regularly. Don’t be whining for Crawford and bitching about Waldis..this game was lost because of Kuroda’s fine outing, and Bumgarner’s rare poor one- not the decision to give two young relief prospects some meaningful innings.
Note to the delightful new contributer DennisZ- my comment was whimiscal, not “wrathful”, I definitely would have gone with the no-hit pitcher and grand slam first baseman had I known last night’s outcome. Most Bonehead bashing is indeed “wrathful”, your comment was not, nor my response. Welcome.
“Wrathful”…….does this involve lightening bolts?
Indeed. And locusts, of course.
you mean “lightning” eh?
I’m amused by the notion that some grand shake up is in order. I’ll make it simple- plug Posey and Fruckie back in, they’ve clinched and Bochy is mulling his postseason rotation. As my dear “B’ers” like to say-end of story.
I’ll give my indivdual player evaluatons for this year and early forecast for next year- when the time comes. That will be on a new page, you might want to give thought to your evaluations.
no doubt about it
I’ll make it simple- plug Posey and Fruckie back in, they’ve clinched and Bochy is mulling his postseason rotation.
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Agreed. They’d already have 90 wins at this point. Considering the overall starting and pen pitching exceeded expectations, probably more
We’ll never know, but I don’t think it’s that simple at all.
There were so many other injuries and failures to overcome.
Last years team had “failures”, as well.This year’s DBack’s team has them. Anyone who thinks Posey and Fruckie wouldn’t more than acccount for the deficit is just dooming for the hell of it.
I’ve restored Baseball’s greatest comebacks- as it’s never been more appropriate than right now- posts considered “doomer” will be deleted.
“Doomer” posts will be deleted? Who died and made you Pope of this village?
You’re no Charlie Moran.
In Room B, I’m the moderator, Dennis.I’m not going to have a thread devoted to greatest comebacks be poisoned by negativity. One of the reasons there is no squabbling there, is because I keep the posts on topic. The purpose of my page is to generate thoughtful response to the question or topic. That’s just not your thing.
What about drinking?……Dennis probably give us all pointers except for Twin.
“Anyone who thinks Posey and Fruckie wouldn’t more than acccount for the deficit is just dooming for the hell of it.”
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Freddie last played on June 10th, Buster on May 25th.
The team was 4 games up on July 29th, and had more than adequately replaced those 2 missing bats with Keppinger & Beltran.
I’m not “dooming”, I’m disagreeing. You seem to have difficulty distinguishing the difference.
So how are you accounting for May 25 and June 10 until 7-29? Are you really saying that they wopuldn’t have been more than 4 up with them? That Whitey/Stewart, for exanmplee, din’t hurt trhen during that time? And they did not replace Posey with Beltran. They never replaced Posey.
I am more than aware of the difference between doomering and disagreeing.
BTW, Kepp is .255 2-14 .287 OBP .625 OPS in 204 AB
Fruckie was .289 3-24 .332 OBP .730 OPS in 239 AB, plus GG defense.
No way he was “adequately” replaced on any level.
I’ll just follow this contretemps as a voyeur.
From KNBR: Jimmy Rollins interested in signing with the Giants next year.
Take it with a grain of salt. It came via C.C. Sabathia or some other third party…
Hey DMD, where have you been? Everything OK with the hip? I wasn’t on the Flap there for a couple of weeks but thought you said something about an operation (or maybe it was in the Flap FL).
I’m OK. No further hip revision surgery was needed. I asked my doctor for a second opinion, she said I was ugly too. [insert Rodney Dangerfield gay-ass red tie here]
it’s one of my fave Rodney lines, even if he poss. took it from Henny Youngman
As I pointed out and shouldn’t have had to- Beltran did not replace Posey. And whether his fault or not- when his bat was needed, in August, he had 1 HR and 3 RBI. He’s had a huge September, and we all hope for a miracle, but he was MIA as the team fell out of first- the time when he was supposed to seal the deal.
Eli and Stewart: in 200 more AB than Posey, they’ve driven in 6 more runs, have a composite .207 BA to .284, .280 OBP to .368, and .285 OPS to .756. Nah, they didn’t hurt.
Beltran was hurt. Hand injury.
Delete as you may (or must) but there are no guarantees for Posey or Fruckie coming back full strength. Especially Fruckie. He’s getting old and prone lately to breaking down. Keppie is a good backup however.
Posey I’m sure comes back fully capable, but you never know. As we know all too well, there’s no viable backup at this point. Stewie is a nice story, and he actually has been hitting a bit lately (and his defense is more than up to snuff), but even a guy like the accidental Giant (Paulino) would be an upgrade.
Chuckles, I don’t delete posts here- this is Craig’s page. On my page, I have permission to do so. You missed the point again- this was a hypothetical if those two had not been injured. Loo is actually contending that it would have made no difference.??!!!?? This doesn’t have shit to do with next year, it’s whether you believe we’d have the division in hand with Posey and Fruckie.
Yes delete Chuck! Great idea.
For the purpose of rebutting your hypothetical statement, I said Beltran replaced Posey’s BAT, not the catching position…
Even if that statement could be supported by logic- they were without either bat for 2 months.
Funny, I’ve been told to stay in my room, you post beautifully there, as well…anyway, if our miracle comeback fails, the season was lost in August. As I pointed out, and Chuck missed, whether it was his fault or not, that’s when Beltran failed. Replaced Posey’s bat? Not when it was needed, not even Nate’s.
Yeah, I think having Posey and Franchez for the whole year would have put us on top of the Division. Hell, subtracting Rowand and Tejada a little sooner may have done it as well. Not to rag on those two guys but it sure seemed that after the DFAs the Team started to play more inspired baseball (maybe inspired isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean).
I’ve made this a topic in “B”. Give it a go there…
not a pleasant thought, but in some ways ya can’t blame him. The scope of his career could look a lot different if he’d had a win to record on some brilliant 1-0, 2-1 games: “… and though Lincecum said he would listen to whatever the team has to say, he told The Chronicle on Thursday he is not keen on locking himself into a long-term contract.”
Heh … burger joke fodder: “… especially now that he has embraced a proper fitness regimen”
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/22/SPM81L89DP.DTL
SOP for pre-contract negotiation blather… Two Cy’s and a WS clincher, and WS ring? This is a tenure he’d regret? What pitchers can match that?
Please. We have to get nervous about tonight.
…have enough to…
[must still be groggy from nap]
Christian CF, Keppinger 2B, Beltran RF, Pill 1B, DeRosa 3B, Belt LF, Cabrera SS, Whiteside C, Cain P
At the risk of coming across as Twin’s Bitch (has a ring to it, though, doesn’t it? how do like my heels?), I have to agree that Beltran — and others — did not perform when it counted most. And you have to throw Timmy in there too: he couldn’t beat Kershaw, once, and that disastrous game against the Cubs? Yup. Anyway, girls, it’s a fruitless and inane conversation. It really is. It is so speculative and what-if laden. It didn’t happen. We lost games we “should have.’ However, statistically [and this contradicts my first sentence] a loss in April counts as much as one in August, so those adventures of Huff in RF were factors too. But lots of things come to mind: how about the gift BALK win against Cleveland? How about Wilson melting down against the Braves? WHY AM I GETTING SUCKED INTO THIS? It is infinitely feckless. I love that word. FECKLESS. Feckless.
My last point and only point:
“Only in the present do things happen.” – Jorge Luis Borges
I repeat that blaming Lincecum for not beating Kershaw once is idiotic, whoever spouts it. The guy had a 1.24 ERA vs. LA in the Kershaw games. He got 0 and 1,1,1 run support in all 4 games. He would have to have thrown shuouts in all four to win three, and leave the other game with a no decision. LA is 10th in the NL in runs, SF is last. Lincecum has gotten the worst run support all season of any pitcher in MLB, save one. LIncecum did his job v. Kershaw, the hitters did not do theirs…
Let’s not go all “wrathful” now. You trying to confuse me with FACTS? What is this a GOP debate? Keep facts outta this!!
No wrath at you Pawlie. I admit to being a Timmeh fan, and who isn’t? Well, I guess there’s one. Anyway, in a season with so many bad variables impacting it, IMO focusing on Lincecum as a problem, or any starters for that matter, with this season-long offensive cluster fuck and 30 more errors already than last year, is not where the criticism needs to focus…
It’s bullshit that I’m not a Timmy “fan”, I criticize when it’s due. The idea that no starter ( except Sanchez, of course) can have any criticism directed at him is bullshit. Thanks for dragging me back in it, Pawlie. Snarkk must have a Timmeh Diss Alarm on his PC, he’s on a perceived Timmy slight in minutes. Anyway- both of you leep me out of this one. As far as my participation, the subject is closed and I won’t be brought into it.
Nothing to keep you out of.
I have no issues with Pawlie.
He has issues with my punctuation . . . 🙂
I’m a Timmy fan too and sorry to all the bloggers that think he should have done better, but I agree with Snarkk that he did very good against Kershaw, but Kershaw was outstanding. I actually posted that the evening in question, i.e., Timmy didn’t have his best stuff, especially the first few innings when he gave up the 2 runs, but battled and was able to give his team a chance. Sheesh, when the average run support is 3.90 plus, you can’t ask for any better than giving up 2 runs. My two cents . . .
Since it got Font a 2 RBI hit the another night,
And this is a do or die division game, tonight can I call both Cabrera and El Presidente “Oh Goody”?…
Yes, as long as you put the question mark within the quotation marks in the future . . . Oh, as well as space your ellipsis marks properly too. 🙂
Snarkk has a problem with quotation marks- which is hilarious because he once went on a 6 month snarrk fit because I neglected to use them.
No. I called you on your “Oh Goody”, it’s mine to use as I see fit. You don’t get credit for, by your logic, dissing a guy into a good night.
Sure I do…
I
I think I made a very good argument for why Timmy should take some blame for that last Kershaw loss. Didn’t look at the other ones but if he gave up a run early then he did not do his job. When it’s ace v ace you throw up as many zeros as you can till the other guy blinks. Timmy blinked like a motherfucker in the first 2 innings of the last game
So the pitcher gives a run or two up really early, but not later, and it’s his fault his hitters can’t hit against a good opposing pitcher? Then why even pitch the rest of the game? For Zito, maybe…
There is a paychological advantage of some sort after first blood is drawn in those type of contests. The pressure is on both big time to go 0 for 0 inning after inning. Is it just a coincidence that Timmy settled down after that pressure came off? Who knows. But he didn’t do his job early and that’s why they lost. I’ll check the other games those 2 pitched and see if it was the same thing. Can’t do that till tonight though
We disagree then. Giants couldn’t score off Kershaw all year, whether Timmy gave up 2 early or in the 7th. Earlier, later, didn’t matter. The hitters gagged against tons of starting schmos all year, whether the Gmen starter gave it up earlier or later. This game was critical, and we’re looking for reasons SF lost it. Lincecum’s performance is down the list…
Yes, you did make a good argument and I would appreciate it if those who disagree take it up with you. As I said, my participation in any thread on this topic is over. I said he should have “some” responsibilty and I got 50 “wrathful” responses just stopping short of calling me a blasphemer and evil heretic. Go get ’em Snarkk, or are you going to fall silent on it now? Come on- I want vitriol, pal, nothing less..
Of course, this 0 for 0 thing is just my opinion, a little amateur psychology. If Timmy gave up first blood in all 4 of their encounters I’d have to give more cred to the theory, though. Someone will probably check this before I get home in a couple of hours.
I believe in the previous loss he got beat by a swinging bunt and some other oddity. That night I noted what a brilliant outing he had.
My whole point in all this applies to the rest of the starters as well. We’re so numbed to this team scoring virtually nothing, that people have gotten into the bad habit of blaming the pitching for not throwing shutouts, not keeping runs off the board early, not doing whatever so as not to pressure the hitters, etc. Screw that. The problem all year was the hitting, the scoring, not the pitching. The pitching is historically outstanding. The hitting is historically bad…
And I was just throwing it out there that I think an ace v ace game is a little different. It’s a heavy weight championship bout. The onus is on them to stay perfect for as long as they can. The expectation of the fans is that they are more likely to see a 1-0 game with two stud aces going than any other pitching match up.
If there are games where the pitcher(s) make mistakes, it’s fair to note them. Your black and white world where no criticism of the pitchers is valid because the offense is worse is ignorant and unsupportable.
“Damn. that grand slam was a killer!”
“So what, Huff sucks”…
There’s zero reason for any criticism of the offense- Snarkk has taken care of that 455 times this year. And I did note several other factors leading to the loss against Kershaw. Tim was mentioned in passing.
You’re not doing a very good job of staying out of this…
You’re not doing a very good job of ignoring him.
True, your comments are maddening, it’s tough. I’ll try again, Oh Goody…
Alright, off for the game…
And twin I’m not telling people to ignore you. But if a a blogger has a problem with another blogger, that’s what I’m telling both sides to do: ignore.
I would be delighted if Snarkk would ignore me. He’s made some very reasonable comments in “B”, however.
Snarkk reasonable? I’m disappointed!
Get your thoughts in on whether losing Posey and Fruckie cost us the West lead- Snarrk says absolutely, Loo has argued otherwise. Link to the right.
All these reality type shows- “Big Fat Fucks Repo Stereo Equipment” drive me crazy with the constant electronic beeping- if you have a lot of equipment, it’s maddening. It’s like “what’s fucking crashing?”
a. You are correct in noting that they are “reality type” shows; not reality, by any stretch.
b. “Big Fat Fucks Repo Stereo Equipment” is the only one my wife and daughter do not stare at. Don’t tell them about it.
You figure your Fantasy League team has a chance with Cargo . . . Pfffft! Out for the last week plus of games with a wrist injury. You also figure that some pitching phenom named Pomeranz will give you a good showing, especially after his first outing was good and he’s pitching against the hapless Astros this evening . . . Pffffft! He blows up in the 1st inning, giving up 5 runs. Apparently, comatose Tracy believes this builds character and leaves him in for the second inning too. However, Pomeranze decides to give up another run in the 2nd as a big fucking thank you to his manager. Mercifully (for FL teams carrying this piece of shit), Tracy wakes up and removes him for the start of the 3rd. Thank God for football season coming to the rescue. ‘Nuff Said.
No stream.
Listening to 1430AM radio, Jon Miller.
Baserunning and execution sounds utterly dreadful.
OK, Snarkk can have “Oh Goody” for Cabrera.
Damn right….
I see Bruce Chen winning for Royals. He must be about 67 years old. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Two dumb ass fucking bunts already.
Why the feck does it bother me when the announcers say BelTRAN? It just sounds like an affectation even if it isn’t. Do they have to roll R’s in Torres? Anyway, I am fast becoming surely and grouchy over this game.
surly; surely surly
It bugs me too. Seems like they should go all out: CarLOS BelTRAN..
might as well say “beisbol” too
Pawlie, someone (maybe Miller) said that is actually how he pronounces his name, Beltran accented on the second syllable. Ala WC Fields, “Souse, accent grave over the e.”
Dave Fleming just said Whiteside is the weaker thrower of the Giants “two primary catchers.” Really. We have secondary catchers? Fucking surlier by the minute. A shocking Braves loss would help.
Fleming: “Giants trying to build a rally.” I see and hear this commonly now. Tell me I’m wrong, but isn’t a rally undertaken once you have been behind? That’s what it always meant to me. Fuckme, anyway.
Hey, it turns out I’m going to be at Monday night’s game. It would be cool to be there after a sweep of Arizona.
absolutely. Hey, I’m just happy that we are still in this thing….
Good luck finding a Ritz cracker vendor…
Pawlie, my man, relax and go stare at the SDG’s tits for an inning. We are on a lotto ticket right now. But we’re still in this. I’m tellin’ you there’s a chance……
OK, chief. The mall is closed.
Thanks for beating the Braves, Stephen S. Doucheberg.
As I’ve been saying all summer, I always knew that Cabrerra fella would amount to somethin’!
Adios, pelota! Cabrera goes all Uribe on us! [2010 Uribe, that is]
I may be wrathful, but I’m no idiot- Snarkk has got “Oh Goody” nailed…
If it gets us 6 wins straight, I’ll anoint the whole damn squad “Oh Goody”…
Some time late at night or in a quiet moment, Jon Miller HAS to say to himself, “Goddamn, I had a good time bellowing out “Adios Pelota!” last year. I know he’s done it for years but he’s barely been able to say it this year, and in previous years he’s never said it as often as he did last year. He seems to have a genuine attachment to it, a joy we don’t hear from other HR calls…..
I fucking love NY Yankee baseball. Cashman is disclosing to the press that he faked interest in Crawford to drive his price up. Hilarious. It’s all ostentatious jibber jabber. Who knows if it’s true. Easy to say now after he’s had a shit year. I laughed at that contract at the time. Same with Werth. Didn’t want either of them. Can you imagine Sabean discussing something like this with the media? I fucking love the YES Network, it’s several levels below porn but super interesting regardless….
They never, never show that thing with those two nuns and the orangutan, though.
“I fucking love the YES Network, it’s several levels below porn but super interesting regardless…”
In my younger days we used to get the boxing from the LA Olympic feed, with Jimmy Lennon as the announcer. It would take him forever to introduce the hispanic boxers, “…jose luis bo-li-loooo val-do-viiiiiii-nnnos!”
St Louis lost again. Go Cubs!
I actually think those long hispanic names are beautiful. The bay area news broadcaster known as Terry Lowry has one. She is really Bertha Maria Teresa Lowry Martinez something something. Que linda es!
How do you like Lourdes Garcia-Navarro?
http://www.npr.org/people/4462099/lourdes-garcia-navarro
And she’s on the radio.
Eli has flied out, missed on a bunt attempt, that leaves the double play ball
And Whitey delivers.
Cain could go awhile tonight; 77 pitches through 6.
Somebody mentioned on the blog a couple days ago that Keppinger may be injured. He sure has been hitting like that recently. I know the options aren’t great, but maybe a touch of pine would get his ass in gear.
NO Whitey next season. Please.
Something happen with Belt? Why the pinch-runner?
Defense. SOP
I know he hurt his wrist/hand running into a guy in Houston at first base. Something has probably lingered. Look, this guy is who he is. No power, no speed. He close to a .300 hitter when he’s healthy. Everything probably has to fall into place for him to hit .300 for a season. A little ouchy thing here or there— disrupted….
The second guess is why not hit for Eli, we have 3 catchers.
My question is why start him in the first place. Agree that he should have been pulled for a pinch-hitter. Last night Hiram batted for Stewart, who is somewhat improved at the plate. Back to my point: If this game was so important and Pablo not starting, why start your third-best hitting catcher?
According to you, Bochy fucks up several times a day.
Get that run back Giants.
that was an ugly half inning
This is our new pitcher . . .
that looks like it was Photoshoped at the end.
romo for the win
fuck me
Bad time for a hanger. Kruk is talking like the kid beat a good pitch. Romo has to throw that low out of the zone.. I’m not ragging on him, he’s been awesome. Just not then.
Scratch out three here Giants.
They have a chance with Putz pitching. Nevertheless, cross your fingers.
That Hurts!
Well, congrats to the West champions- we had injuries and all that but when we faltered in August, they jumped at their shot and won it. Deservedly.
Well, still in the wild card. Barely, but still in.
Dbacks earned it, they got it done with an amazing last 6-7 weeks…
Put a fork in it.
Night all.
Agreed . . . You tip your hat to Arizona, the NL West Division Champions.
Tough way to go. It seems the Giants just haven’t figured out how to deal with Goldschmidt since the day he came up.
Hhrrrmmph! Well that’s the *last* time I use a discount bookie who always wears orange jumpsuits and makes license plates for a hobby!
Perfect line to explain this team: a bunch of singles, no walks, 1 run. Hey, if you’re gonna go out, go out real. And for this team, that score is as real as it gets…
Sounds like you are describing my fantasy league team’s hitting too. “Yo. We be real MOFO . . .”
Well, they’ve hit a boatload of HRs this month. 26, third in the league…
I feel worse for Romo than Cain, Sergio takes it hard. The guy has been aces all year. Probably the most fitting end was Huff making the last out.
I’ll never eat an “Animal Style” Double-Double at In-‘N’-Out again. Swearing off late-night wings @ Hooters, too!
BF, tonight you have Cain gettin it done in a pressure game until late, then he gives up one, gets taken out, they score more on the relievers. Giants only score one all night on the unlikely Cabrera dinger. So, where’s your theory now? To me, it’s like I said , this team can’t score — doesn’t matter when SF pitching gives up a run or two, if you can’t score runs, you can’t score runs. The offseason awaits…
Operative word is “Theory.” Same as hypothesis . . . Hasn’t been disproved, nor proven. We need that dude from Moneyball to input the numbers and see what he says.
Yeah, yeah. Number, what, 456 now? Give it a rest, get a new rant.
Maybe you all have thoughts on the new topic- Baseball as therapy. Link to the right.
On Beltran, he played Goldschmidt’s hit into a triple. No way they should re-sign him, unless it’s for 2 years and play LF. Nate takes RF. Let some AL team pay him $70 mill for 4 years, or whatever Borassss wants. We need to get young, quick, have good knees, and hungry. Beltran is none of those…
I feel for Cain. As much as you can feel sorry for a dude making millions. He’s pitched his butt off the past few years, and has consistently gotten horrible run support. He should be 25 games over .500, not a few under it. I wish he would just go off in the dugout one time, swing a bat at the Powerade bucket, and let out a primal scream with spittle flying. That would be awesome. But, he’s too cool and professional for that. Admirable, to be sure…
Matt has handled it beautifully. As a professional should…
I’ve said from day one that Beltran would not be back- regardless of his performance. He plays the field as if his right ear would fall off if he moved too quickly. Don’t get all het up about it for nothing, Sabean will not pursue him..
Snarkk, I think Cain takes solace in the fact that his teammates appreciate him and equally important, Giants management appreciates him (as reflected by the salary he deservedly receives). Consequently, I doubt we will ever see him go ballistic on a Gatorade container . . . as you pointed out, “. . . he’s too cool and professional for that. Admirable, to be sure.”
Maybe he’ll just go ballistic on some cans….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT3cGdLIHA4&feature=related
The relievers are not subject to the run support issue in the same way as the starters. For instance, if Willie blows one, it’s the same if he blows a 1-0 or 9-8.
Pre-2009, Cain was hardly well thought of by most. He was a frequent “winner” as dumbest Giant. The attitude toward him now as the rock or horse is totally deserved . Back then, when the run support issue was raised, most dismissed it, claiming his mental mistakes cost him the wins. This was on the Splash, I’m accusing no one here. But those are facts as to how he was generally viewed in the blogosphere, he had few supporters.
Cain’s unflappable demeanor is an impressive example that “nothing” is frequently a good thing to do, even more often the very best thing to say.