The Impending Yankee Collapse is Like Waiting For a Tsunami to Hit
Now that A-Rod is going back under the knife there’s scuttlebutt that that Yankees will swoop in with a fistful of millions and steal Scutaro away from us. I don’t see that happening. This is not *George Steinbrenner’s* Yankees. The freaking Pirates outbid them for Russell Martin. Think about how absurd that sounds…..
A new approach to building a team is underway in New York. Well, I don’t know about a *new approach*. Their farm system sucks and most of the current players are into their mid 30’s—and Jeter and A-Rod are more concerned with recovering from their surgeries, not playing baseball…..
But they aren’t going to just go out and *buy* a team the way they have always done so in the past. They have a documented plan to cut their payroll under the 189 million luxury tax level by 2014. I don’t really understand this plan, they still make a boatload of money through the YES network. Why start cutting costs now, especially when the other teams in your division are spending and your team is looking old and hurt…..
But that’s cool, if they want to cut costs that’s their right. It’s their money. But when you’re losing out on signing your starting catcher to the Pirates and you sign and cut Eli Freaking Whiteside over the course of a week (he’s already been picked up by Toronto) then it’s starting to look like your *New Plan* has got some holes in it…….
Whatever, I really don’t care, but the 2013 Yankee season is going to be a hoot to watch from the safety of this side of this country. Yankee fans are not going to take this drop off well…….
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The Giants go into Yankee Stadium the second to last weekend in Sept. Could be real interesting, or hopefully the Giants have the division wrapped up by then.
The Yankees could be in a lot of trouble in their own division.
I love it when the Yank-mes flounder. The days of buying championships are indeed long gone. They can stuff their team and that ridiculous band box ballpark. What is it, about 280′ down the RF line? Little Leaguers hit it that far these days.
I think i’ve mentioned more than once that the sole reason the yankees had the success they did was steinbrenner getting suspended and Bob Watson took the opportunity to DRAFT. All the key yankees for the next 10-15 years came out of that period. I will grant that BEFORE that, George tried to buy his way to victory. and AFTER that, he tried to buy his way. but that period is what set the yankees up for success. So will george junior get out of cashman’s way? do the yankees have the ability to judge talent anymore? who knows. but Bob Watson was the man.
Wasn’t Sabes part of the Jeter/Rivera drafts?
This will indeed be entertaining. Y’all know about the NY Post headline about a certain shortstop’s weight while rehabbing? DEREK EATER. (He wasn’t all that bloated, and who cares.) As a Giants fan, I say LET PABLO EAT if he keeps smacking three homers in Game 1 of the WS. (New topic: Randy Johnson written up in a brief New Yorker piece. He stopped by their offices, humping a Big Unit $15K watch. And he’s a photographer.) Sign Marco!
MLB.com blog has Bobby Evans referring to Brian Wilson as a “Giant for life,” more as a wish. And I think Scoots may be hard to sign, but I hope that WS ring and how the Giants do things gets in his head as a deciding positive factor….as it may have for Pagan.
G’night, girls.
In the minority as usual but I think a thriving Yankee team and franchise is good for baseball. There are three teams that are really worth hating, if one is into that: Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers. But only if they’re succesful. Hell, when the Dodgers are down, the fucking Padres just aren’t a suitable substitute. They’re even kinda cute since Latos left. Nope, “Break up the Royals” just doesn’t have that, oh, that “je ne sais quoi”…
Pagan is Pa-BACK!!!!
Deal done = 4 for $40M…
http://www.sfgate.com/giants/shea/article/Angel-Pagan-to-re-sign-with-Giants-4088378.php
The weird thing about the Yanks has been the way they’ve gone after guys other teams released. I had read a week or so ago, that they hadn’t started thinking about position players contracts (maybe why Martin jumped ship). I’ve also heard they’ve been kicking the tires on Nate the Great lately, so maybe they are looking at lowering payroll.
If the Yankees cut their spending, how will the Brewers survive?
Have I ever mentioned that I hate the fucking Yank-Mees…
On a more important note, the Giants have announced their Spring Training schedule:
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_22116480/san-francisco-giants-announce-2013-spring-training-schedule
Time to start planning that trip to Scottsdale, baby!
I’d love for the Yanks to finish right next to Boston at bottom of the division. Tampa, O’s, and maybe even Toronto this season could be much more successful, tho probably less interesting. If you think about it, when their fans are complaining and bitching about under performing/over paid (and uh how did they get that way?) players, it’s better theater.
I think Fox (newscorp) bought a chunk of the YES network recently but that shouldn’t have much affect. The new frugal Yankee approach is sort of funny.
Here’s the full ST schedule…
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/spring_training/tentative.jsp?c_id=sf
Yanks and RedSox’s can both eat shit forever.The power is shifting in their division.Tampa Bay,Baltimore and now Toronto have far better talent through their systems.Turmoil will be the only thing happening in NY+Boston this year.And i love that!
Hiroyuku Nakajima instead of Scutaro??
I agree more with twinfan. I prefer the Dodgers and Yankees being competitive. It was satisfying coming back and taking down the Bums this year. And it would have been so sweet to have smacked the Yankees in 4 straight and avenge 62.
Far as I’m concerned, Dodgers could lose 100 and I’d love watching every minute of it. Same goes for Yankees and Red Sox too.
Yes it would have been nice to avenge ’62, but the way the Yanks went out with their tails btw their legs vs Detroit pitching and having their ace CC get his ass kicked was great. Boston, led by bobby valentine straight into the dumpster, was a joy to behold all year. No better way to celebrate what Sf did than to watch dodgers millions go up in smoke as they imploded while SF romped home down the stretch.
Flav, congrats on rose bowl bound Stanford. Hogan struggled a little, but just growing pains…let’s see if he can get them to the next level…
He played well when he had to—the td pass to win it was perfection
KNBR was handwringing this am about the Yankees signing Scoots to a 3 year deal. I am telling you, that is not going to happen. First of all, it’s a bad fit for Scoots. Why would he sign a 3 year deal somewhere if it was likely he’d be out of the starting rotation as soon as A-Rod came back mid year? Also, he doesn’t want to play 3rd base, he wants to play 2nd or shortstop and those positions are spoken for……
I could see the Yankees signing Keppinger way before Scoots………
In addition to the reasons you noted, has anyone actually lived in New York (besides possibly Pawlie and MacDog)? I have a couple of friends that live there and if you buy a condo, umm . . . let’s say for $1.5 million, that probably wont cover the underground garage space. Cha Ching! Add at least another $250k to that figure if you want to park your ride. Maybe that figure gets you a 2 bedroom, 2 bath, 1250 sq. ft. condo . . . Maybe.
Also, let’s say that you want to live outside New York (or the Bronx where Yankee Stadium is located) and commute to work. You have to start off your commute time with the 30.4 minutes average for all New Yorkers, which is the longest in the United States. I’m betting that you minimally must add about another hour to get outside the New York city limits and hit a suburban area equal to Los Altos Hills, Woodside, etc.
Oh, did I tell ya about the hurricanes they have there? Crime?
Yeah, I think Scutaro has more reasons to stay than leave. 🙂
I lived in NYC, upper west side, 1976-1980, North Jersey 1995-2001, Central Jersey 2004-2007
I should have had a V8 Eric . . . Duh! Dinner in Denver and Flapalooza II obviously had no effect on me. 🙂
Agree, Scutaro seems an unlikely choice for the Yankees. St Louis is rumored to be wooing Scoots and that makes a lot more sense.
Just read that Kap’s biological mom still hasn’t met him (since she gave him up) but is trying to and he’s refusing. And it’s a little creepy that she follows him on twitter…..
I don’t give a fig whether the Yanks or RSox do well. The ’60s baseball wasn’t good because the Orioles were strong and the Yanks struggled the latter part of that decade? Not really. Baseball would survive with a Toronto, Orioles, Rays race for a coupla years. But, ESPN would still be featuring September Yanks/RSox games if they were both tied for last place 15 games back of the Os. As for the Dodgers, it’s better that they’re better for the rivalry, but they needn’t be division winning better…
Agree snarkk. For those who think it’s beneficial if the Yankmees – a nod to Chi on being an outstanding wordsmith – do well, I don’t think that’s true and in fact, I believe it’s dumb and counter-intuitive . . . Specifically, it would be better for MLB to emulate the NFL model, where there is a goal and framework to have parity among all teams.
Here is the article on Kaep’s birth mom, etc.
http://tinyurl.com/bmk94xr
Starting to put together plans for Spring Training. Whoot! My daughter’s boyfriend coaches baseball for Sac State, and he has tons of frequent flyer miles…he is going to hook us up for our flight…cannot wait!
The collage football analysis over here has the Cardinal ranked #5 nationwide. wow!
so, espn is doing a winter meeting set of BB2N and the talking head just said: “we will bring out our west coast bias”
hahahaha
Fuck, they didn’t need to tell us. I assume it is still there…but I rarely watch ESPN. They suck.
Wisco mentioned Bob Watson earlier, and I remember him as a damn good hitter from his days with Astros til he went and raked some more in the AL. Looking things up on b/r, he hit over .300 8 times in his career, lifetime (16 plus seasons) .295 hitter with just under 1000 rbis, career OB of .360/slug of .450, and only struck out 150 more times than he walked in over 6000 ABs.
Out running errands at lunch…KNBR reporting that Buster Olney has said the Giants have a 3 year, 24 mil offer on the table for Scoots. Gettir’ Done!
And I wanted (and thought they might be able to swing) two for Scoots, but not unlike the Pagan situation, the market is driving this…and hence, it will probably take three years to get it done. The other thing with the Scoots situation, after him, there are not a lot of serviceable 2nd base (or even utility) FA candidates out there.
That would bring the total tab to $82,000,000 for Affeldt, Pagan and Scoots. Glad it’s not my money.
They did get a lot off the books, so why not? The alternatives were just as costly and likely worse.
It was Gene “Stick” Michael who was mainly responsible for rebuilding the Yanks during Steinbrenner’s suspension. During Michaels’ time as GM from 1991-95, the Yanks got Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada, and traded Roberto Kelly for Paul O’Neill. He also got vets David Cone, Jimmy Key, John Wetteland, Wade Boggs, Darryl Strawberry, Ruben Sierra and Tim Raines. Watson took over after the ’95 season and added a few big pieces with Tino Martinez, Jeff Nelson, Cecil Fielder, Charlie Hayes and Dwight Gooden, and the Yanks were on their way.
And Sabes was dir of scouting during Micheal’s reign, no?
i didn’t look it up but living there in 95 i was under the impression that watson was the guy who kept stenbrenner from trading everyone for the flavor of the week.
3 years for Scooter? Yikes. That’s close to the realm of highly unrealistic. How about 2 and an option?
I mean really, he’ll turn 41 when the Giants win their 4th straight World Series.
How about 1 year with an option!! What is Giants Management Smoking, shooting, snorting? please don’t Bogart that joint my friend!!
Kev, if you think there is ANY WAY IN HELL he signs a one year deal, YOU my friend are the one smoking the ganj. Really, at this point the way the market has shaped over the past few days…two won’t get it done. The options suck, so just sign his ass. It IS NOT going to cripple the club, long term.
So your saying that “what the hell, the Giants wasted money on Huff, Rowand, Tejada, etc might as well waste somemore?? F that!
Well, I see Scutaro as a lot different than Rowand, Huff, etc. I think 2-3 years in the 7 mil range is good value considering their needs, that Panik is the closest to being ready (and is NOT a lock), and pickings are slim for 2nd basemen/utility guys. So, my opinion is that it is far from “wasted money.”
Speaking of old, is Omar Vizquel still going to play?
(he’s hinting at retirement)
Just stunned the Giants are offering 3/24 to Scoots.They can’t really feel he would still be productive at 41 can they?
Fucking A…Panik should be ready in 2 yrs tops.
We don’t know how the contract might be structured. There may be a buyout, etc. Look, one and an option…YOU are smoking dope (lots of suitors who will scoop him up for two years). Like I said, the market (number of teams with interest) is driving this (the Giants are not in the position of power here…Scoots and his agent are). Two and an option probably doesn’t get it done, or THAT would have been the fucking offer. I suspect they only offered three as that is what Scoots and his agent are asking, and they have the flexibility (other teams with intersest) to be calling the shots. I don’t like three, but fuck it…I don’t want to see him walk. Get it the fuck done…and if it is three…then damned be it…do three.
And if Panik IS ready, and IF he wins the job, you have a very serviceable utility (in Scutaro) guy who can play 3 of the 4 IF positions.
Baseball was never more “America’s game” than when the Yankees were a true powerhouse and knocking them off was the equivalent of slaying the evil dragon- one may disagree but that notion isn’t “dumb”. creating an artificial parity is dumb -our beloved Niners would be crowing about 1 or 2 Super Bowls if parity was the goal back then- if one were seeking true parity, we can start with knocking about 50 miilion off next years payroll- bye bye Angel, don’t even think about more bucks for Posey…it’s wrong for baseball owners to pocket revenue sharing bucks but not doing that would make those teams competitive more often- that’s not “parity” and until the Giants are playing in St.Petersburg… St. Petersburg, Russia that it is, i think a goal of parity is wrongo, just as it is for Goodell’s Gulag, er, NFL…
IMHO
It’s Rozelle’s NFL, Twin. He set up the structure. But I’m sure you knew that. The difference between the NFL and MLB is most football teams have a chance, through drafts and wise acquisitions, of winning it all, and fwinning it all fairly quickly. Yeah, the parity thing can be seen as a curse, or it can be seen as a boon for NLF teams because since the playing field is more level, teams can turn around their fortunes quickly with a few smart moves. Baseball? Change is glacial for the most part, and teams that are down stay down for longer stretches of time. Baltimore, KC, and Pittsburgh spring to mind. Plus with the luxry tax overrages spread around to low lying teams, they can make money without even trying to field a competitive team. Hello Pittsburgh. I’m sure the Marlins fans are thrilled about how their commissioner is looking out for them.
(awaiting the harshly condescending post forthwith)
Actually Chuck, his post was meant for me. However, I have big boy pants and will stand by what I said. Having the Yankees at or near a $200 million payroll annually vs. the “mom and pop” outfits you mentioned coming in at $35-60 million is pathetic. As you pointed out, when was the last time Pittsburgh even sniffed a division title, much less a World Series? Uhh huh . . .
It’s a topic that’s bound to generate different opinions. I have no problem with that., do you, Steve? Anyway, are you ready to have about 50 million knocked off our payroll:? As to the the Bucs,I’ve posted MANY times about the owners pocketing the revenue bucks instead of putting more into payroll. But that wouldn’t create true parity even if they did..
And what Niner fan is in favor of giving back a few Super Bowl titles? As I said, it’s a HUGE topic, too big to go into in depth here.
Pete Rozelle was the greatest sports commisioner ever- he was responsible for the good in the NFL-. the huge contracts with network television, the merger with the American Football League, the Super Bowl, Monday night games and instant replay, the marketing, etc. The biggest positive under Goodell’s reign was forced upon the league, the the new concussion policy.This is a big topic, send me an E_Mail sometime, Pete wasn’t exactly a buddy but I got to know him pretty well when my father was the lead announcer for CBS. Dad would have been proud that he was inducted into the Pro football HOF as a Pete Rozelle Radio-Television Award winner..
his role in “parity” is misunderstood..
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“we can start with knocking about 50 miilion off next years payroll -bye bye Angel, don’t even think about more bucks for Posey” statement isn’t accurate. Who’s to say what each team’s payroll would be? Expenses would be linear and stable across the league. In short, it wouldn’t necessarily be just the Giants cutting back on payroll. Actually, Union issues would probably require all MLB payrolls to go up on average across the board. Additionally, they would probably “grandfather” existing contracts to ensure that this wouldn’t affect teams or players for let’s say the next 5 years (again, the Union would demand that).
Look, I agree it’s probably not going to happen in my lifetime due to the Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox liking things just the way they are. However, find me someone who seriously believes that the MLB model is BETTER than the NFL model?????
I go into that below, and it *is* tongue in cheek, as the bye bye Angel remark.The Humor Monitors can keep their tongues wherever they keep them when they’re not being wagged.I think I’ve made it pretty clear over about a dozen posts that the revenue sharing guidelines have to include a rule for how much goes into the payroll. There is plenty to be done to make the playing field *more* even, but sorry- if I have money than Joe down the road I should be able to buy a better car.
Just heard this on the scoots deal:
3 years for $20M plus a $4M signing bonus. 2013:$6M, 2014:$7M, 2015:$7M
wtf, is this so? have not seen or heard such!!! I’m on board as saying AGAIN: we get Scoots, we are good to go. If he’s back, I am ECSTATIC buoyant happy excited orgasmic thrilled pleased tripped out joyous. Really. Honest.
Think of it as 11m bonus for the WS.
It’s a little high for Scoots, IMO, given his age; but good enough. Get the deal done.
I don’t really care about the 3rd year as long as Panik is ready to take over. Teams that make a lot of dough (like the Giants) can afford to sit the ineffective big contract guys (like Huff last season).
And who knows, maybe he stays productive through all 3 years. Hey, even if he only gives us ONE good year (2013) and we win again, jsut think of it as 1yr/24 mill.
Who wouldn’t pay that (with someone else’s money) for another WS next year?
This deal is only a problem if he starts sucking at the same time we don’t ave anyone to replace him from the farm system…….
He might start sucking right away. Hopefully not. I think it’s the right move to sign him, but looks like a high risk of some money getting wasted on the back end of a three year deal…
The small market teams can compete and put themselves in a position to win the WS, they just can’t make any mistakes like the big payroll teams can.
When we won it all in 2010, if you subtract Zito’s and Rowand’s deals (two guys who weren’t instrumental at all in us winning it), our payroll would have been 62 million…….
The A’s payroll that year was 58 million……..
Last year the A’s payroll was 52 million and they came within a whisker or the WS……
It can totally be done on a mid to low range payroll as long as all your moves work out….And remember, the A’s lost 3/5th of their starting rotation at the end of August so it’s not like they didn’t have to deal with major adversity, too.
With the new Parity rules set to go into effect, some commitments made in 2012 and any contracts negotiated since the end of the season have been.revoked. The mean payroll commitment of 58.7 million has been set as the payroll for all teams in 2013. We’ll need to do some trimmimg and some feelings are gonna be hurt. Existing contracts are null and void, so Timmy and Barry might need to rethink those Acapulco vacation plans. Who said parity was fair?
Yeah, again – this isn’t my money and frankly, he deserves it after being instrumental in the second half of the season and obviously, in the playoffs. Me? I give him a “Bonilla” going away gift at the end of his contract for giving us a World Series Championship (for those of you who have forgotten – Bonilla got the last year of his approx. $5 million contract bought out by the Mets for an annual $1 million dollar contract for 25 years . . . Total cost to the Mets? Approx. $30 million per tax accounting experts. Only deal worse that the Mets made was going in cahoots with Madoff). 🙂
Had lunch w/ author Hart Seely (again, I recommend his book The Juju Rules), a Yankees fan supreme and blogger. Even he says the Yanks may well be entering a dark era. He doesn’t see them as signing Scutaro, invoking their Plan, as discussed here. He pretty much rolled his eyes at this cost-saving gesture. He said the Yankees just sold 49% of YES to Rupert Murdoch for something like $3 billion, MORE than the value of the team itself. He and I agree: these are billionaires whining about millionaire players. He said, “Could you see the Giants repeating?” I said, “Last year and during this season I did not see it. I just didn’t [oh, a tiny part of me, my 2010 basking molecules saw it], but now, especially if we get Scutaro back, sure, I can see it. I can. I’m a believer.”
I would not sell my outhouse to Rupert Murdoch.
Nothing good can come of any association with that maniac…
3 years for Scutaro is obviously one too many, at least.
If they do that, that’s a signal they think Panik’s advancement to MLB is far from a slam dunk.
Based on his performance this season, I’d agree.
But, Scutaro’s Giants performance, especially the lightning in a bottle post season, puts him in the catbird seat.
There is no natural way that he should be very good in that third year, at over 40. Unless he’s an amazing physical specimen, or he’s had lunch with Barry Bonds’ nutritionist..
Three years for Marco would just show Sabean was back in the bad old days days when he shelled out big contracts with no eye towards likely future performance.
Sabean is shrewdly gauging that it is a players’ market and a shifting one at that. He seems willing to gamble that the up-front years will be worth the risk of the later years. C’mon, if such tactics lead to rings, who will quibble about a million here or there. ANOTHER thing: you can always trade a guy. (Oh. Wait. I forget. “Buy low, sell high.”)
Vizquel hit .291, .271 and .295 from age 37-39. And the great Luis Aparicio hit .271 his last full year at age 39.
Interesting that Luis at a huge year at 36, dropped off significantly at 37 and 38.
Don’t know what relevance this has other than they are all from Venezuela.
Pagan shouldn’t have gotten 4. Affeldt shouldn’t have gotten 3. But the market is what the market is. The options not named Pagan were worse, and just as costly, or Brown.
Scoots? Well, the G’s could stick with The Riot and use Arias at times.
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The offer for Scoots is now 2 years with an option for a 3rd. Scoots is ‘weighing his options’.
Well, I do love me some Arias. I have very high hopes for him and would love to see him in every game, even if not as a starter. He is another of our *secret* weapons.
…and who doesn’t love The Riot, if for absolutely NO other reason than that winning run in Game 4? Nuff said.
I loved that slide. It was a slide you do in the summer time with your friends in your back yard when you’re 10 and you just hosed up the water slide. Loved every second of it. I want to keep typing right now, though I have nothing more to say about that slide, I just wanna keep diggin’ on that slide……..
Since the Giants will be having dollars coming off the books this year and next. I imagine they feel like they have the room to gamble a bit on length of contracts. Plus, free agents next year will look to the Giants as players and perhaps keep them in the same conversation as the Dodgers, Yanks, Phils and Red Sox.
Not sure why Victorino continues to get what he gets. I’ll gladly take the Giants’ deal with Pagan of 4 years at $40m over Boston’s signing of Victorino for 3 years at $39m. I know there are a lot of Red Sox haters here, but having lived there and gone to Fenway a hundred times, there’s still a (tiny) soft spot in my heart. I really thought they’d enter re-building mode, go younger and cheaper, but here they are, signing Victorino for $13m a year. As for Scoots, 2 + an option year sounds good, if he’ll take it, but if he wants 3, give him 3. 2nd base is a black hole without him.
100% completely agree.
I agree 110%. I couldn’t believe Victorino got 39 for 3…and he was supposedly one of the “fall-back” guys had Pagan not worked out.
NASHVILLE – The Dodgers offered a long-term contract to South Korean left-hander Ryu Hyun-jin on Tuesday that was promptly rejected, General Manager Ned Colletti said.
“Predictably, it fell a tad short,” Colletti said.
Colletti said he didn’t know how the Dodgers would proceed in the negotiations.
[UPDATE 5:35 p.m.: Ryu’s agent, Scott Boras, said he presented the Dodgers with a counteroffer. “We exchanged offrs and negotiations continue,” Boras said.]
Boras, said his client should be compensated like a major league No. 3 starter. So, presumably, he’s looking for something in the $50-million range.
If Ryu doesn’t sign with the Dodgers, he would return to his South Korean team, the Hanwha Eagles. He wouldn’t be eligible to be posted in the major leagues again until next season.
Boras dismissed the notion that Ryu had no leverage in these talks, saying the left-hander could pitch in Japan next season. If Ryu signs a one-year deal with a Japanese team, he would become an unrestricted free agent next winter and wouldn’t be subject to the posting system.
But the idea of Ryu moving to Japan appears far fetched.
It’s uncertain exactly how such a move would be made. A South Korean player has never moved to Japan before becoming a free agent. Ryu is under the Eagles’ control for two more seasons.
Here’s something to consider: If Ryu signs with the Dodgers, they would pay the Eagles the $25.7-million fee they bid to win the exclusive rights to negotiate with him. If the Dodgers don’t sign Ryu, they would owe the Eagles nothing.
There is no posting system between the Japanese and South Korean leagues. Theoretically, a Japanese team interested in Ryu could pay the Eagles for his rights. But it’s doubtful a Japanese club would pay anything close to $25.7 million if Ryu only wants a one-year contract. In that case, the Eagles would probably hold on to Ryu for another season and post him again next year.
Ken Rosenthal tweets: “Source: Scutaro in agreement with #SFGiants, $20 million for three years.”
Basically, Scutaro gets the same salary he made last season, i.e., he was looking for some security. He deserved it for what he did last season. Not saying anyone here is taking the World Series Championship for granted, but occasionally, don’t you guys wake up late at night from a terrifying nightmare, where the Giants are going on year 50 something and still don’t have a World Series Championship??????
Me? I say pay the MOFO and the rest of the team too. I’m sorta likin’ a World Series Championship every 2 years or so . . . 🙂
perfectly stated, Steve….is THIS REAL? and hi to Aunt Mary and the “girls”
Yeah, I’m reminded of the Warriors one and out after their victory over the Bullets. Even with the 49ers having 5 Super Bowl victories, I thought that would be the gift that kept on giving. Yeah, I have to remind myself that it is REAL, but it probably wont last forever.
I will say hi 🙂
Flav made the most important point to me earlier, referring to who would replace Scutaro. In 3 yrs., no one has any idea if Panik or any other *prospect* (read non major leaguer) will be ready to take his spot. He could just as easily turn into…Downs, Velez, culbs, burriss, ransom, frandsen et al. I’ll take Scutaro in the LU right now and worry about developing prospects later.
I absolutely agree, Willie, and made a comment earlier about Panik (not a lock). I agree…go with the guys who got you there (World Fucking Series this year), and worry about the rest of it down the road.
Life is mystical. Adrianna in room across hall, coughing, choking. Pertussis, still, 6 weeks later. I text her good night and sign it “Marco Scutaro.” I think how much I love her. What a trouper. Around the same exact time, RaysFanGio calls me. It’s late. I don’t pick up. Simultaneously, Adrianna says regarding my text: “We got him?” I say, “Who knows. Maybe that’s why Gio was calling.” I read Gio’s text: “Scutaro. Giants. 3 years. 20 mill. Congrats.” YOU CANNOT MAKE SOME STUFF UP. I love this team! I know it’s not a guarantee of anything. I know that. I have known that all my life as a fan. But keeping these guys feels right, with the right momentum. I wish the season began tomorrow at 8 a.m.
Is three years too much? He could be hitting .215 in 2015, but if the Giants are playing the Dodgers on the last day of the season and the bases are loaded with two outs in the 9th with the game and the NL West on the line, there’s no one I’d rather see up than Scutaro.
I’m with ya. And he is a young 37. Shit, I don’t care if he’s 47. Is heart is enormous and his bat is smart. (Thanks for your text today.)
I don’t know. it’s easy to say now. who would have thought that huff would fall off a cliff? regress, sure but disappear completely? i am having trouble with the “we sign them, it will come”. Each year, Each Team, has to find it’s own way. We’ll see but i don’t think just throwing the same line-up out will generate the same result. Fortunately, this team has enough disposable cash to be able to weather a mistake or two.
The thing is, there weren’t many other alternatives that make any sense. Change for the sake of change (say they go after Upton instead of resigning Pagan) would cost them more and likely work out worse.
Abso-fucking-lutely in regards to running with Scoots now, and having him with that last AB).
Blanco dives . . . . . . . AND HE MAKES THE CATCH!!!!
They are showing Matt Cain’s perfect game on Comcast…
It has been reported as a definitive done deal, pending physical…3 for 20. Baer also says payroll will go north of 140.
http://www.mercurynews.com/giants/ci_22125170/san-francisco-giants-make-sure-manager-bruce-bochy
Watching the World Series video (recorded off ESPN on Sunday). Fucking awesome. Talking about getting all misty eyed…fuck, I was flat out bawling my eyes out a couple of times.
Hey, I get it that the length of the contracts for Pagan and Scoots were longer than any of us wanted, and maybe a bit rich on the coin, but given the FA landscape and the team’s needs, I am down with both. None of our prospects are close. Let’s roll with the team that won it all this year one more time, and worry about the rest of it later.
I wonder how B-Weezie is feeling about now…outside looking in. Does he regret not taking the incentive-laden deal the Giants wanted to toss to him? I’m not convinced he won’t be back. I actually kind of expect he’ll be back. We’ll see.
Anyone planning on Spring Training this year? My daughter and i are locked-and-loaded on our dates.
Friday March 15 vs Tex-Ass in Scottsdale.
Saturday split squad (we’ll probably catch both). 1 PM vs Cincy in Scottsdale, and 7 PM vs the Indians in their yard (Goodyear).
Sunday vs the Rox in Scottsdale.
May go a day earlier and catch a WBC game in Scottsdale.
The 15th @ home sounds good. Saturday is me mum’s birthday. I’ll grab a seat, where are yours? The stadiums in Goodyear are awesome. bring some spray paint and tag the dogers yard with “Giants 2013”
I think we are gonna do it this year. Never done it before. Got to figure out the best time to go. Early ST? Late?
Well, make your reservations soon if you hope to get a room in Scottsdale. Outside of that…I always just go with the games I want to see, and the three days I mentioned above seem the best IMO.
And Holliday flies out to Scutaro…peotic fucking justice, and the Giants are going to the World Series!
What a trip…prior to game 1 of the WS, and Freddie and Huff standing on the line. Mad love for their contributions in bringing us our first WS title in 2010. And then the pan of the dugout and there is El Presidente…
Wow…how quickly things change..
Craig – have to try to find it again, but according to CSNBA, 70 days until pitchers and catchers report.
Pablo just blasted his 3rd HR and Zito is spinning a gem in his first ever WS start.
This WS video is FUCKING AWESOME!
LET’S GO GIANTS! LET’S GO GIANTS!! LET’S GO GIANTS!!!
Timmy sits down 7 Tigers….5 on Ks…bad ass!
A cool thing with video editing software, Pablo hits six home runs in my Game 1..
Love it…that’s awesome Michael. Made me laugh…
I don’t have a huge problem with 3 years for Scutaro. It’s only one more year than what would be completely sane and I won’t mind having a guy finally the right age to be my son. Pissed me off Sabes stopped getting those guys.Ran into Buster lately and he called me “Gramps”..
Cainer getting ready to take the bump for Game 4. I smell a sweep. 😉
Whoot! Posey…HR in the 6th…Giants up 3-2.
Top of 10th…Theriot base hit, Crawdad with the sacrifice bunt, and Scoots with the hit to put the Giants up.
Romo closes it and “Got him looking and the Giants have won the World Series in Detroit!”
This shit will NEVER get old…
Love the Orange and Black…
And on that note, good night, girls.
Chi, doesn’t the “days until” widget say ‘all’ players report?
shit, my bad
Victorino 3 years/39 milion to Boston. Yikes.
Although the ballpark will probably help his numbers.
Still….Boston’s going nowhere this year.