Trying to Copy Cat the Giants Success
There was an article/video at mlb.com yesterday titled “Giants Blueprint Hasn’t Gone Unnoticed–2 SF Titles in 3 years has other clubs looking at formula”. For those of you who don’t like Eric Byrnes, hit the stop button on the video ASAP.
You can read that article here: http://tinyurl.com/cqxdb63
Now, it’s not a very interesting article. Besides a couple of references to longterm stability up and down the organization, it discusses drafting well and developing a championship core. It DID cite a stat I didn’t know: the Giants led the NL in OPS+ (a measure of offense adjusted for home field) suggesting that they didn’t just do it with an all-pitching/no hit approach that national writers usually (wrongly) default to when assessing the team’s strengths and weaknesses.
Then the writer interviews Kevin Youklis who lamely states, “They only had 3 players who hit double digits in HR’s. I know it’s a big ball park and stuff but you don’t see too many teams with only 3 double digit HR players”. Whenever anyone says the word *stuff* I usually start to tune out and *stuff*….
If the writer wanted to interview a player who had less of a clue about the Giants *formula* he struck gold with Kevin Youklis, a guy who has never played in the NL or on the west coast and who never played a game against them last year. His response (you can’t call it an answer since it wasn’t one) was a classic “New York-Centric” brushoff that is common among players and writers who think baseball doesn’t matter if you aren’t talking about the Yankees and Red Sox……..
The writer missed the point with his *organizational stability* reference. He’s suggesting that keeping an organizational hierarchy together is a big part of the *formula* but he barely scratches the surface with that answer. If he ever talked to Sabean or Bochy they would say it’s their friendship and the common ground they find that keeps this formula producing such fantastic results. These 2 guys like each other and respect each other and that apparently goes a long way towards building a world series winner year after every other year. 🙂
What do you guys think it is? Luck? Timely mid season pick ups? Did the team just catch fire at the right time in 2010 and 2012? Buster Posey? Barry Zito?
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Inexact science, for sure, when you consider how different 2012 was from 2010. Because the park is so different, you have to have players smart enough to adjust, not just hitters but pitchers too.
Drafting players and bringing in new guys from other orgs to play here takes added insights, but sf has had its share of hits and misses; sabes has rebuilt the OF a couple times over and we’re still waiting on something from minors. Some vet guys can figure it out and thrive, some can’t. No question bochy and sabes have a pretty good handle on what is going to work, but there are still always mis steps (tejada, guillen, etc).
The one constant imo has been bochy’s ability to handle a pitching staff. He got as much as possible of different guys like randy Johnson and jonathan sanchez, and the guys in the pen he added (casilla Ramirez affeldt lopez, plus mijares last year) have all been great success stories. That isn’t an accident.
I hope by keeping what he had together last season sabes is making the right moves (or lack of same), while everyone else around him is scrambling to adjust to his team. That was always a pete newell thing—we prepare every day, do what we do and play our game, regardless of who the opponent is.
There’s nothing funny than the condescending brush off, dripping with hidden jealousy, that you hear from easterners regarding the Giants. Two rings in three years and the response from a guy like Youkilis is “they’re PRETTY good, but……..”
*funnier
puro tourney post–Snarkk, I’d love for cal to take down boeheim and the cuse, whom I can’t stand. Monty’s bigs suck , and for them to win he has to get something out of them, at both ends. This seems unlikely after their contributions vs. vegas. Monty hasn’t been able to get much out of Solomon at either end for 3 yrs now . Pac has 3 teams left after UCLA and Colo were bounced yesterday, but I doubt more than 1 after today. Harvard does not have typical Ivy guys, they can really play. AZ better be ready to go all out. I like Oregon’s coach Altman but they are outmanned by St. Loo I think.
really impressed by jamal franklin of san diego state. He can rebound at one end and play flawless offense at the other, attacking the basket and dishing off to cutters or shooting a pull up J, lost art in today’s game. too many coaches tell kids (like pitino who seemed to have started this bs) either shoot the 3 or go all the way to the hoop with it. Result is guys don’t have mid range game. Franklin does, he is just smooth; key is he makes good decisions with the ball, when to shoot pass or dribble.
Altman is from Creighton of Missouri valley, which might be my fav conference of all time. Sad to hear they are leaving to form the new b-ball catholic school league. It’s great to see games from there on cable—Wichita st is really good too.
Yeah, Solomon won’t be the difference, but if he helps even a little on both ends, that would be big. He’s never been dynamic, never will be. The key is Crabbe and Cobbs getting their shots to go down, and Cobbs getting some penetration to collapse that zone for some kicks out for clear shots, or inside passes for layups or dunks from the bigs. And, they better make some free throws. That ‘cuse zone is tough. If the Bears shots aren’t falling from outside to open up the inside, at least the bus ride back to Berkeley won’t be long…
The Cal women have a real shot at the Final 4. Unfortunately, they’ll have to get past the “Furd in the same bracket. Bogus team bracketing, and I’m sure on purpose. They don’t want two California teams in the Final 4…
There’s always luck invoved in winning, Now this is going to sound strange coming from a perceived “numbers guy”, but an overlooked factor that doesn’t have a stat atttached to it- the Giants don’t do a lot of ( excuse me, Craig )..they don’t do a lot of dumb “stuff”… top to bottom, they’re well coached players. What’s exasperating is when supposedly intelligent baseball people don’t consider those team assets as part of what makes a team great.
Craig asks “Buster Posey? Barry Zito?” Nope. While we can say we wouldn’t have won it without Buster or Barry, I would posit that in 2012 we wouldn’t have have won it if Buster hit .400 and Barry won 25… without what we got from Angel, Scooter, Pablo, Cain, the Brandon’s, Romo, more…I’m always hesitant to use the “chemistry” word but I can say that our title years were truly, and more than most, team efforts. No better example than 2010 when two young guys who wanted to be regulars and thought they’d shown enough to be regulars, put aside their ambitions and became two of the most valuable role players in the game- Ishikawa and Schierholtz. I remember that Travis changed his approach at the plate to make it more suitable to his new role as the go to LH pinch hitter. And another little thing that shows why players want to go to war if Bochy is their leader- he rewarded them with World Series starts…
So, anyway, while I may pore over the numbers and pull out the stats, I realize just as all Flappers do, that it’s about how they play the game.And our Giants play it right.
the lucky bounce off Pence’s magic bat or the Cards pitcher’s errant throw to second or the ball hitting the 3B bag in Game 1 of the ’12 WS — I’ll take it any day
What a fecking eejit “and stuff” Youkilis is, as Bobby Valentine can attest. They will loathe him in the Bronx. Anyway, it sure ain’t just dumb luck that got the Giants two rings. I’m going to say more than anything it is organizational discipline. “This is how we do things here.” Of course, that does not always get executed perfectly. Plus fate “and stuff” intervene. I give tons of credit to Sabean and Bochy. No, they’re not perfect; merely human. But they’ve set up a model of good practices, standards, goals, and an atmosphere that is not toxic — and likely beneficial. does that make sense?
The east coast pundits can’t figure out that like most things we do it better out west. The Giants were ahead of the curve with their back to the future approach in Selig’s “post steroid era”, assembling athletic players that can do some of everything, pitching and defense. At the end of the day it is the players that perform and get it done but I still think a lot of credit goes to Sabean, Bochy and the organization they have built together.
easy now, we’ve got me on the east coast — and Paul and Steve and Edd east of the east
Those two championships — just all dumb luck… 😉
Stability or adaptability? Abstract discussion about a team without considering the players themselves is always a flawed approach. Still, there is something unique about the Giants as a franchise. Since Sabean joined the team in 97, the Giants have gone through several phases. During those phases, the entire franshise adapted to changing times and good fortune.
They made some mistakes along the way. But, as several people noted back on the Dark-Years thread, the down time offered draft opportunities, and they did well. You have to give credit to Sabean and his staff for those coups. By then Sabean’s office was operating differently than it had back in the Kent-Williams trade days, or in the Zito-Rowand-signing days. They’d changed their approach. Meanwhile, the front office grew, and it developed ways to put the team near the top payroll tier, but not over the luxury-tax line.
(Occassionally, the magic marketing manipulations get a bit obvious. The voting push for the AS game last year, for example. That was the direct result of an in-house campaign. Remember all the folks the Giants flew out to Texas in 2010 to see the WS? That large group included the in-house types I’m talking about.)
Central to it all, however, is Bochy. He looked like a sad-sack interim caretaker for his first couple of years, until he got a real team to manage. Now that performance showed adaptability of the first order. He went from “gum chewer” to HOFer, before our delighted eyes.
you make a great point about the evolution of Sabean–he went through many different phases of GM’ing over the course of his SF career……
adapting and overcoming, that’s the mark of long term success in pretty much any field.
great, great post
Bochy was always a fine manager- the perception of him changed. Of course he might have *appeared* to be a better manager when he had better players but he was the same. Pulling the strings with Chulk, Misch, and Hennessey, et al was not a chore that would make any manager look too good.
I basically agree with you. But the perception depended on the performance. Prior success with the Pads, for me, somehow sank into the mediocrity of the Dark Years. When he got his shot, Bochy really made the most of it. Then I realized that I had completely under-estimated him. But at the same time, he then did the best work of his career.
And I loved your post.
No one incident or decision involving Bochy did more to change the misperception of him than did the “Two-Trips” incident. And it’s quite amusing that it was such a turning point because Bochy didn’t know the rule, either. Broxton should have been forced to face Torres and Mattingly ejected.
Regardless, the thinking on Bochy changed mostly because his detractors had given him no credit for thinking at all.
Not sure what part of the rule Bochy didn’t know. He knew that a visit after the manager left the mound area was in violation with rule 8.06. I think that “Two-Trips” not being warned by the Umps when he returned to the mound (with the same batter) would negate the Comment to rule 8.06 and the Umps decided properly to go with the Rule 8.06 (B) penalty. No?
The rule was as I said, IMO – Broxton had to face Torres and Donnie was to be ejected. It’s in the rule 8.06 comment and has been acknowledged to be the case, MLB said that the ruling was wrong.Home plate umpire immediately warned Mattingly to not return to the mound, BTW, according to the account from Ken Gurnick of MLB.com.
“In a case where a manager has made his first trip to the mound and then returns the second time to the mound in the same inning with the same pitcher in the game and the same batter at bat, after being warned by the umpire that he cannot return to the mound, the manager shall be removed from the game and the pitcher required to pitch to the batter until he is retired or gets on base. After the batter is retired, or becomes a base runner, then this pitcher must be removed from the game. The manager should be notified that his pitcher will be removed from the game after he pitches to one hitter, so he can have a substitute pitcher warmed up.”
http://tinyurl.com/c9ebs6n
If Mattingly was warned then I agree that the penalty was incorrect. I thought Bochy had already protested before the Umps called it so a warning hadn’t been given. If old Two-Trips hadn’t been warned then I think the Umps made the right call using section b of the rule: A second trip to the same pitcher in the same inning will cause this pitcher’s automatic removal from the game. Either way, I still don’t understand how this means Bochy didn’t know the rule. If I’m Bochy I wouldn’t have complained about the Umps not applying the right penalty, I’m thinking he’d want Broxton out of the game now, more than he wanted Mattingly out.
BTW, I’m not trying to start something with you on this. I loved the outcome, I just don’t understand how this means Bochy didn’t know the rule. Umps, yes. Bochy, I don’t get.
I don’t see a warning. So I don’t see a bad penalty call by the umps (pitcher gets to finish the at bat or being ejected on the spot). Also, I still don’t see how any of this shows Bochy didn’t know the rules. I’ll leave it alone now but I do disagree with your assessment here.
The Giants played as a Team, not hired guns and stuff!
Was it the players Sabes gathered, the approach by Boch and the Coaches, just the players themselves? How about Bow Tie’s, The Giants Way document? I don’t know. Just keep raising Championship flags and I’m good to go… and stuff.
Bobby Evans with Marty Lurie on KNBR said this morning that Pablo has a “loose body” in the elbow. Previous reports said it was a bone spur, which is a growth on the bone, not a floater. Panda had the elbow wrapped this morning, according to Lurie. Doesn’t sound good to me. Bone chips can cause continuing issues and inflammation because they can move. Rest helps, but it can flare up. Wouldn’t be surprised if Panda has surgery at some point this season to get it/them removed, and if not in season, I’d guess off season for sure. My research shows arthro for bone chips means you’re out 4-6 weeks…
That sucks. But I’ve braced myself for it. I’d rather him just get it done now if he’s gonna get it done at some point this season
I’m projecting my guess about what will happen. Evans said nothing about surgery or prognosis, as usual, but when he dropped the “loose body” verbiage, that was definitely a new development from the bone spur “stuff”. You can play with bone chips, but like I said, they can flare the elbow up at basically any time. I’m no medico, but seems to me why not take care of this now while it’s minor, instead of Panda having a flare up down the stretch when you really need him. Their lack of infield depth is likely causing head scratching on what to do with this elbow; if they had plenty of guys, they’d probably send Panda to Dr. Andrews yesterday and get the thing fixed…
Absolutely. He’s been out a week and there’s another week to go. Had this gotten taken care of when it happened, that would be 2 free weeks to start healing
Belt 4-4 last night with 2 dingers. For his sake, I wish the season started tomorrow…
You guys are always in denial about Panda.Yes I want him out there for 150 games ,jack 30-40 bombs,and knock in 120, but he is just to INJURED PRONE to make it through a full season.
Pencil in 105 – 125 games with his next variety of ailments. Just hope we have him ready for the Playoffs.
We do not know the extent of this injury and the two hamate injuries do not mean he is injury prone. They were said to be caused by his grip, and since he does not have the problematic bones anymore, it’s not an issue. As I pointed out before, other than those two injuries he’s missed a total of 42 games in 4 full years for other reasons.
Tim still having the same problems as last year. Can’t locate the fastball, guys then spit on his out pitches, then he comes back in with the fastball, and they hit it. A’s are particularly good at taking pitches. He’s got to locate the fastball, or he’s going to be doing those 80 pitch 4 inning appearances again…
I’ll not jazzed about Belt yet nor freaked by Timmy yet. I’ll wait for the real games.
I’m a little jazzed and a little freaked out, but I’m mainly waiting for the real thing, too…
Did any of you guys see Tim pitch? I just got home and caught the mlb box score. Looked a lot like last year, unfortunately. Lots of walks, lots of K’s and and early exit.
What’s he got, 1 more start before we do this for real?
I heard it. Yep, one more start.
At least he got stretched to around 80 pitches. He gave Posey a workout…
I saw his innings. As several have noted, he’s never had good springs, only last year did it carry over.
well his spring’s never mattered to anyone…. until now. And really, they only matter if one would be looking to see a difference in his performances from last year; something to show that he’s *back*. But spring training isn’t about that, especially for a vet like Timmy. I liked how he looked in start one. I liked how he looked physically and I thought he threw quality pitches. I didn’t see the subsequent two starts but I’m assuming he still looks good and has good velocity.
I’m not super worried. The blister set him back a week or so. If his first 2 regular season starts suck then I’ll start to worry………
Just watched Belt’s HR. He hit it about 450 looking like this is boring the hell out of him.
What’s he got now, 7? I know it’s only spring training, but if this is even a little indication of what’s to come, I can’t wait to see him play this year.
Now, I’m getting even more than a little jazzed. And worried that he’s leaving good swings in Scottsdale…
The good news is that wasn’t even a swing. I’d call it a, uh, maybe a “swizzle” or a “swingie”. I dunno, he hit it about as far possible without trying. Impressive.
For a big dude, he’s got a powerful, but reasonably compact swing…
Mrs. Snarkk and I heading off to Albuquerque and Santa Fe next week. Anybody with any New Mexican restaurant suggestions or anything else, lemme know. I love dives with great food and no atmosphere. 😉 Yep, I’m looking forward to some good chili verde, enchiladas, tamales, maybe even some cabrito, with all those red and green peppers they’ve got down there. I’m packing plenty of antacids…
We’ve had good success with restaurants featured on diners, drive ins and dives from food channel.
Good one, I’ll take a look. I know that guy’s own local restaurants in NCal get ripped on reviews, but I’ve seen that show — there’s probably some he’s visited in NM. I’m looking for a “Mama’s” place with killer enchiladas and chile verde, etc…
Jane and Michael Stern have published several “Road Food” books that are excellent- focusing on local cuisine at bargain prices. They have a website, http://www.roadfood.com
There’s a search engine where you can enter the town and see what’s good to eat. From past experience with their books, it’s a good way to go…
“Golden Crown Panadería – Albuquerque, NM (12 Miles)
Must Eats: Biscochitos, New Mexico Green Chile Bread, green chile pizza, Dessert Flautas”
Check out the site, it’s a good one. They have 26 spots they recommend in New Mexico…
I’ve got an ex-girlfriend who lives there and this gives me a reason to text her. Haven’t talked to her in a couple of years, been wondering what she’s up to. Will forward you any info if she responds.
You guys are awesome with the recommendations. Thanks…
The Giants are going about it the right way, obviously. Draft well and spend the bulk of your payroll retaining your best players. Refrain from signing FAs in their prime. Another thing, don’t trade your top prospects for players over 32. I really wish they’d stuck to the program instead of trading Zach Wheeler, they’re going to need a minor league pitcher to step up this season. But then again, who am I to criticize Sabean? I can’t even win my fantasy baseball league anymore.
Last night Iwas talking to someone who’s in a12 team, NL only league with most of the owners living in L.A. or NYC. He was planning on picking up Lincecum on the cheap near the end of the draft. A huge mistake IMO. Not only will he kill your ERA and WHIP, there’s a decent chance he’ll be traded to the AL or sent to the bullpen.
The big bargain, especially in a league where most of the owners don’t live in the Bay Area will be Belt. He looks poised to have a breakout season, 320-90-30, and will likely be batting third. The other Brandon might be a good pickup as well. I think by the end of the season, Crawford and Scuturo will switch places in the lineup, and he’ll hit around .275 with double digits in HRs. As Ted Williams said, hitting major league pitching is the hardest thing in sports, actually, batting 8th in the NL is the
I’d definitely steer away from Sandoval. A trip to the DL seems inevitable.
From “The Book” by the immortal Tom Tango and other SabrNerds:
“Another way to look at things is to order the batting slots by the leveraged value of the out. In plain English (sort of), we want to know how costly making an out is by each lineup position, based on the base-out situations they most often find themselves in, and then weighted by how often each lineup spot comes to the plate. Here’s how the lineup spots rank in the importance of avoiding outs:
#1, #4, #2, #5, #3, #6, #7, #8, #9
So, you want your best three hitters to hit in the #1, #4, and #2 spots. Distribute them so OBP is higher in the order and SLG is lower. Then place your fourth and fifth best hitters, with the #5 spot usually seeing the better hitter, unless he’s a high-homerun guy. Then place your four remaining hitters in decreasing order of overall hitting ability, with basestealers ahead of singles hitters. Finally, stop talking like the lineup is a make-or-break decision.”
Obviously, the personnel make this to be not always possible.
So you do the best with what with you have, keeping the principal in mind. Bochy’s problem, were he to employ this, is that his best hitters are also his best sluggers but this can work if you keep an open mind…
1. Pagan
2. Posey
3. Belt
4. Panda
5. Pence
6. Scooter
7. Blanco/Torres
8. Crawdad
Posey/Belt will cause the most uproar but keep in mind that if you tear into me I will bolt from my chair, flee to the kitchen for cold water but hit my head on that frigging chandelier instead, falling to the floor, dazed while my wife’s accomplice takes my credit cards and Zeke checks my pockets for cheeseburger droppings,.,
interesting.
You should have turned this into a main thread.
I wouldn’t have a problem with trying that for a few weeks. I kinda like Posey near the top, he’ll get an extra at bat every once in a while. With Pagan a speed guy, he’ll often be in scoring position early in the game, with Posey a contact guy next up to drive him to third or even in for an early run…
Cedeno signed with the freaking Astros? I guess he didn’t want to just be insurance for the Giants and then cast away once their roster settles. With Houston, he could play for the next 30 years. 🙂
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t want Scutaro and Blanco (especially if he was rollin’ with that 400+ OBP from early last year) batting in FRONT on Pence. This LU just looks like it clogs up the bases to me.
Well, for one I’m presuming Scooter and Pence hit to their career numbers. But one change I would make is switching Scooter and Blanco/Torres.One I thing neglected from the optimal LU is having speed in the 6 where the stolen base is big with basically singles hitters following the 6 guy.
Crawfish should hit quite a few doubles this season…
Then he has a speed guy who can score from first, too. The principal of this optimized LU is sound, I think. It would have to be adjusted based on the players available. I think my LU does that but I’m allowing inferior points of view today 😉
I like Crawford for his D and his dreamy looks and I always thought he’d hit enough to stick around. But I’m not envisioning “quite a few doubles” for him this year. I think he’s gonna hit in the .240’s and we’ll be happy with that as we were with his 2nd half last season (where he hit a little bit above that).
Last year I wasn’t too into predicting a win total for SF. In the past, that was one of my favorite things to do. This year, I want to try to predict player stats and have all you guys do the same. Come on, it’ll be fun. Plus, it will be forever etched in the comments section for all to bow down and hail….or do whatever the opposite of that is.
So start formulating your hitting and pitching line stats now and I’ll do a thread for it on Opening Day (or the day before).
Crawford had 26 doubles on 435 ABs last season. I’m thinking he’s going to be better this season, with a .255 BA over/under (I’ll go with slightly over), and I’ll go out on a limb with 35 doubles…
jot this down and come up with some others. I want to see how we do in predicting the starting players stat lines. Should be a crap shoot with some hits and misses.
The Mudbug hit .260 after the All-Star break, .281 in August, .288 in September.
I’ve been hearing about Dr. Andrews for years and he’s obviously an accomplished person. In my mind, I saw him as this brilliant savant, light years ahead of the rest of us intellectually. He was THE ANSWER MAN. Kinda like the Wizard of Oz……
And then today I heard him speak for the first time (about RG3’s recovery). He’s as country bumpkin as they come and he used the phrase *super-human” three times (and I don’t think that a definition for *super human* can be found in any Stanford or Harvard medical school dictionaries or taught classes).
Listen, my dad is 100% *country*, still, and he’s been out here 45-50 years—he still sounds almost unintelligible to my friends (though to me I can’t even hear his accent) –and he was a dentist for 40 years in Atherton. San Dawg met him and says he’s Bobby Bowden’s twin brother.
So while I know that sounding stupid doesn’t always equate to it in real life, I was still pretty hard pressed to get through the Andrews interview without thinking that the dude was a backward-ass country bumpkin and wondering how he could possibly be in charge of all these delicate, million/billion dollar arm surgeries…….
here’s the link:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9089006/dr-james-andrews-robert-griffin-iii-recovery-unbelievable
I don’t care if he uses sign language. If I’ve got a multi-million dollar arm problem, Andrews is the dude, even though he’s 71 or so. I’d like to know his fees. For instance, how much did he charge the Skins for fixin up RGIII’s knee? Does the fee differ depending on the size of the patient’s contract? The “knee guy” used to be Dr. Steadman out of Vail (remember Kobe was in Colorado because of his knee and was seeing Steadman, then got into girl trouble), but Steadman is over 75 now, so I don’t know if he’s still ” surgerizin’ “. I won’t go into detail, but a few years back I had to have some major surgery on my jaws, very specialized, one of those things you don’t want some dude do it who does one of these a year. After a lot of research, there was only one guy I wanted to do the job — out of Stanford. He was great, he did it, and it turned out really well. He wasn’t cheap, and he was way way out of network, of course…
Underneath saying RG3 is having a “superhuman” recovery, Dr. Andrews is really saying: “…because Ah used my superhuman technique puttin’ this guy’s hamburgerozzed knee back togethah and therebah savin’ that mohron Shanahan’s ayass”…
I think a rule ought to be if a person doesn’t make a prediction he can’t trash someone else’s. Are you going to set the stats to be predicted?
Yes, that will definitely be a rule. If you don’t fire off a stat line for everyone, I’ll delete posts from those criticizing a prediction.
And we don’t have to do the entire team, just these guys:
Pagan, Blanco, Torres, Pence, Pablo, Crawdaddy, Scoots, Belt, Posey, Timmy, Zito, Bum, Voggy, Cain, and Romo.
15 guys.
That shouldn’t be too hard to do.
The stats are the bare basics. For the hitters it’s batting average, HR’s, RBI’s, SB’s. For the pitchers it’s Wins/ERA/SO/and for Romo Saves/ERA/WHIP
but I’m open to other categories. I just think that for all the regulars to do 15 it should be kept super bare bones.
That works for me- but what about xFIP ;- )
It’s entirely possible that you and I are the only ones to do this.
I hope everyone does
it might be fun; and this from a non-numbers guy
I guess Flav won’t like this opening graf from the AP:
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) — Tim Lincecum’s long locks are gone and apparently so is his nasty stuff.
His stuff is still nasty. Ask Posey. But, he can’t locate the fastball…
Andrews had to be the “House” of Doctors as a kid.Yes this guy was doing surgery on Sandy Koufax. back in 1966,ferchrissakes. Way ahead of any doctors in the day,and still is always a final choice option for most athletes to consult with.
No Doctor can touch this guy in his knowledge of arm injuries and success rate in returning after their injury.IMO