Hey Larry Baer, Listen Up, Bryan Stow Needs Your Help
This is a thread that needs to be carefully worded. Since I’m writing it, that’s probably not gonna work but I’ll give it a go. 🙂
The Giants should be commended and honored for the support they have give Bryan Stow and his family up to this point. From my memory, they created a Bryan Stow fund and raised money for him at a game. Tim Flannery and his band have done at least 2 or 3 benefit concerts. I remember Tim Lincecum donating $25,000. And I’m sure other players contributed as well. I saw a pic of Barry Bonds with Stow and I am positive that Barry wrote them a big check.
So from an outsider’s view, it does appear that the Giants have done a lot for Stow. Especially considering that this tragedy didn’t occur on their property. I might be wrong about this, but I don’t believe the Dodgers have done a single thing to help Bryan Stow. I know the Stow family has filed a 50 million dollar lawsuit against the Dodgers for inadequate security and I’m sure that will be tied up in the legal system for 10+ years. McCourt must be positively giddy about the prospect of a new lawsuit to fight. He is disgusting scum. And while I recognize the new Dodger ownership didn’t have anything to do with this, I am assuming that they haven’t tried to help aid Stow or his family in any way. But I could be wrong about that.
Now we find out that Stow has returned home. His insurance company stopped paying for services. Here is the blog post from his family this week:
After a long two years of being away from home, the insurance company has ceased payment for CNS, so Bryan has come home. Let us clarify something very important -Bryan could have benefited greatly by staying at CNS longer. We are so glad to have him home, but as prepared as we thought we were, it was a difficult transition. Bryan requires so much assistance and it is impossible for Ann and Dave to do it alone. Bryan requires 24 hour nursing care, but this is not covered by insurance. So we had to hire care givers in order to help Bryan to get up and showered in the morning, and get dressed and in bed in the evening. We are now the ones administrating his medical care, scheduling all his appointments, and preparing all his meals. We are not complaining…we have Bryan home! At first look and during conversations, Bryan appears to be doing better, cognitively. But to be with him as much as we are, we see what others don’t. The memory problems, the use of words that do not belong, the pain he is in and the stiffness in his body that prevents him from being able to do things on his own. Due to a huge cut in therapy coverage, Bryan has physically experienced a big setback. We do what we can at home, but he needs the 5 days a week that he grew accustomed to. We just don’t know how to get that for him.
Your support, love and prayers have gotten Bryan (and us!) this far and we can’t thank you enough.
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I saw the video compilation that his family put together for this blog entry…broke my fucking heart, dude. I agree with you whole-heartedly Flavor. “Someone” needs to make this right (provide Brian with the services and care that he needs, and that his loving family cannot provide). And while the Giants (as you mention) are not responsiblie in any way, shape, or form, they are probably in the best position to help in the interim (until things can be sorted out in court and with the insurance company). Speaking of, I think the insurance company should be held responsible for cutting off his support…insurance companies suck (sorry if any of you work in the industry…nothing personal).
Blessings of peace and hope for Brian Stow and his family and friends.
When talking about individual Giants, please don’t forget Jeremy Affeldt. I don’t know how much money he’s put into the fund but, I do know he goes to see Stow and it seems he does so often.
This USA article was written last year and talks a little about Affeldt and Stow but also will give you an idea on what the Lawyers have been going through with the Dodgers (bankruptcy protection, new owners, insurance).
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/story/2012-03-27/bryan-stow-beaten/53815112/1
Stow may never get any better then he is right now and really all the family is asking for is a way to maintain and manage some sort of life for Bryan. Someone needs to step up to the plate, and that $300 Million insurance policy that the Dodgers carry, would seem to be an appropriate place for the largest chunk to come from.
Bozo. No doubt, but that isn’t gonna happen. The Dodgers don’t care or won’t do anything or maybe both.
I listed off what I remember from memory and I didn’t recall anything specific that Affeldt did, but good call on giving him a shout out.
Kat’s POTD got me fired up about this.
Clown – I don’t think anyone would argue with you re: the 300 mil, and that being a good place to start, But sorting all this shit related to the Dodgers and the insurance company will be tied-up in court for a loooong time. In the meantime, Brian and his family suffer each and every day for a lack of the medical care that he requires. The point Craig made (and I seconded) was that perhaps the Giants could help financially in providing Brian the in-home care and rehabilitation he needs in the interim. Any way you slice it, it is a fucked-up situaiton, and Brian and his family are the ones who must suffer each and every day.
“Kat’s POTD got me fired up about this.” and rightfully so. The Dodgers will pay (their liability) but I’d imagine right now they are just trying to low ball the amount. But you’re right, that may take a while and something needs to happen now. The physical trainer should be a no brainer, the Giants have those on staff (probably some interns as well), they also have a contract with St Francis Health Center. So something could be done.
Because Bryan isn’t insured by the Giants it would probably be out of pocket but only until the Dodgers insurance money kicks in.
So yeah, get her done Larry.
I want to play devils advocate here, no I am not cold and heartless, I have a brother who was in an auto accident 10 days after he graduated from High school, He is a quadroplegic. paralyzed from about the middle of his chest down. anyway All of you here must know that their are literally millions of victoms of crime. So how do you pick and choose who to advocate for. I agree that someone, some organization should step up. I mean if people step up for natural disasters to help a city, state, whatever then I think the dodgers should be able step up and take ownerhip of this. You can read about something disgusting that someone did to someone else almost everyday. everytime I here an amber alert I am on the phone to my 19 year old daughter and my 23 year old son. I cannot image having a 10 year old or whatever age child being kidnapped and what the parents of that child are going through. While I grieve for Brian and what his family are going through, I know that there are Many more Brian Stows out there also.
I don’t think anyone would argue your points, Kev. We all understand there are many who could use the help. The focus here is because we are all Giants fans, and our team (and a handful of past and present players) have taken it upon themselves to help.
Until you get for profit insurance companies out of the game, shit like this will continue to happen. Gal I work with is from Finland, where health care is universal and excellent; if you want something better (private care) that is available at your own expense as an option. Yes, their taxes are high, but their people are taken care of for life and they aren’t closing libraries or cutting police services.
When I first started coaching HS b-ball it was mandatory to take a lecture class given by an AD in the district. In it you were advised in no uncertain terms about what you could/could not do–one of which was transport kids you were coaching. Why? Because if something happened to them you were liable and the district could get sued…and that’s all the insurance co cares about. Same goes for the CPR/breathing/first aid classes you had to take—real EMTs know this stuff is almost worthless (and it’s the same every year), but insurance co demands district employees take it, to avoid lawsuits. They are not interested in anyone’s level of care or safety—just covering their own asses.
Please keep Rowand out of it- it cheapens the rest of it to take a swipe at Rowand. Here’s the family website where donations can be made. There is no miminum donation.
http://support4bryanstow.com/
I do not know all of what the teams have done, I do know that the Dodgers had fund raiser in April of 2011 that raised $60,000 or so. Lasorda has donated $5,000. The Giants also a had a fund raiser at the ballpark on April 11,2011. Player donations have been noted by others.
Rowland was a fucking metaphor. Sorry you missed that. I was wondering how you were gonna diss this post as you do almost every other post I write. Well done!
It was an innappropiate methapor, and the POTD was innappropriate. If should be possible to post about Bryan’s plight without such nonsense.
Kev– you’re talking about another issue. I’m not talking about all the other Bryan Stow’s. I’m just talking about Bryan Stow. His tragic story touched all of us, including everyone in the org. As I said, he’s now part of the Giants family. And you help your family when they need help. This guy was a season ticket holder. He wouldn’t have been down there, this wouldn’t have happened, if not for the love and commitment he had to his team. And I say, now it’s time for the team to reciprocate the same love and commitment by helping him right now
When health care (and now prisons) become for-profit operations, this is the result. Taxes right now are about the lowest they’ve been in 30 years, yet all you hear from the politicos is how high taxes are. I’m not for a 50% tax rate, but really, closing mental health facilities (thanks, Ronnie) at the cost of health care/insurance profits has gotten us where? Hmmm, let’s see. The last few mass murderers were guys who were in the mental health system in some way shape or form. Could they have been helped had there been a little more care to offer them? Certainly food for thought.
The point being, corporations, since they are now people, can dictate the tax code and give themselves advantages us flesh-and-blood people can’t. They are realizing amazing profits once again, yet the nation’s workforce stagnates among offshored jobs, and a flatline pay scale. They want to pay less taxes than they do, and sure, that sounds great, but when you realize most of them can offshore their money (a la Apple) and not pay taxes on it anyway, you get less and less from corporations. Yippee.
BLEEP!
When I first posted about this a couple days ago, I noted that I would be contacting the teams. I’m aware that the impact of a few blog participants contacting them isn’t going to mean much, but it can make a difference if many voices are heard. There is contact info at each teams website.
I’ll add that Kevin’s point is important to remember, and that we all are or should be, to best of our capabilities and resources, our brother’s keepers…
Providing medical care for prisoners is a responsibiity of the state, BTW, and we would be a despicable society if prisoners were denied that.
Let me say sorry if I sounded callous in my post, not my intent. BF I realize that you were talking about Bryan Stow and the Giants org stepping up. It just touched a nerve, when all the media ever talks about is Prisoners rights, California prisons are over crowed so the prisoners are not getting the health care they “Deserve”!! Really.
When really if the media wrote/report more about the vitims of crime and what is not being done for them. that is what they should be reporting. BF I love your post, I just wish the press would notice and do more articles like yours. And less about the publicity of the criminal.
I have made my small donation to the Byan Stow fund via Paypal ( 50 bucks) . I know a lot of what his family has gone thru, as do many of you, I’m sure. My final asset is my home, which is no longer an asset. It will be taken by state of California when my wife and I have passed away. Actually, before that because there will be not be insurance for to pay the care of the survivor in our home..
So I have great empathy for those in similar situations. I’m sorry if Craig doesn’t like my comments but I think that anger is misplaced here, I know that Craig’s heart is in the right place and he has demonstrated his care for his fellow man in how he acted when I suffered my seizure.
Would be it asking too much for Major League Baseball itself to get involved and help out as well? By extension, this happened at one of its games and therefore some responsibility should be taken. I’m sure MLB’s coffers aren’t exactly barren, so there must be something Selig and Co. can do to assist the Stow family, especially during this critical point in Bryan’s recovery.
Well MLB was an accessory given that they let McCourt be an owner. So yeah, MLB should pony up.
Prisons are going the way of health care. A for-profit operation that is now getting to the point of building more and more prisons around the country to feed the system. Prisoners are now passed around between states to fill quotas and manage the numbers regardless of anything else.
The point being, this is now Rollerball, but people don’t really know it. We are run by corporations and have little to no say in what the government does any why. Citizens United should be repealed as soon as possible, as should the Supreme Court’s decision to allow unfettered donations to any and all campaigns.
Reading the comments at the Stow blog is enlightening. Lots of Dodger fans apologizing for the lack of response from the Dodger org. There are other fans saying that if they ever came into any real money they would help out substantially—if they could.
It’s nice that fans are contributing $50 here and there, and anyone who does should be commended. But that’s not gonna get er done. This is bigger than what the minions can do. The answer to this problem lies at the top– and that’s the SF Giants
The top is the medical system in our country. It would be NICE if the Giants and Dodgers did more, but ultimately this is yet another familiar tale of our broken medical system. Maybe I’m wrong but there’s nothing that I’ve seen in Obama care that addresses the plight of the Stow family and many many others. It’s not even cost effective to deny insured long term care in the home as many families will not be able to provide the care either because of limited means or physical ability to do so. Patients are then doomed to state run assisted living facilities where the level of care and caring are a crapshoot from state to state and facility to facility- which costs more than care in the patient’s own home.
As to Stow donations, fans, players, and fine people everywhere have donated well over $200,000 so far, perhaps much more-so the contributions do make a difference.
they don’t make enough of a difference or the Stow family wouldn’t have had to post what they did at their blog, basically begging for help. You want to turn this into a soapbox moment and I agree with what you’re saying. But that isn’t going to fix the very real, very immediate problems facing the Stow family. Unless the Dodgers or mlb step in (unlikely) it is on the Giants to address. And as I said, a couple of Flanny concerts is not going to be enough to resolve this……..
It’s not just a “soapbox moment” , I’ve contacted the teams as a long time fan asking for more help from them, I’ve provided a site for donations, I’ve made a small donation myself ( I’m forwarding the receipt to you)..But I just disagree with much of the emphasis here. I won’t go into it more than that, I’ve said what I have to say.
From what I’ve read, Flan’s benefit shows brought in $75,000 (I think the Giants put in $10,000 of it), but you’re right Flav. Stow will need millions.
Mattingly hurled Trammell to the ground. Plus, he’s the manager and he’s supposed to be a calm leader, not disintegrate into the depths of the lowest common denominator on the field. How does he only get a one game suspension??????
Maybe because MLB knows he’s going to be fired soon anyway?
It’s gonna happen. I’ll be hugely surprised if Magic sticks with Donnie through this entire season.
Do you honestly think Magic Johnson is making those kinds of decisions for the Dodgers? I think the guy is strictly shaking hands and smiling for the cameras and has zero input into any baseball decisions.
I certainly have all the sympathy possible for Bryan Stow and his family that I would have for anybody else I don’t know that finds themselves in a similarly bad situation. From what I know, and all I know is what I’ve read, the Giants organization and staff/players have helped the Stow family quite a bit. The Giants have been gracious, and taken care of “one of their own”, so to speak. They did not have to do what they did, as a business, as an organization. They may be helping even more on the down low, I have no idea. If they are, great. But, I do not criticize the Giants if they don’t swoop in and shoulder entirely the expensive burden of Bryan’s care as a bridge until this lawsuit settles. With a nod to Kevin’s POV, there are other Giants fans everywhere that are victims of something, and need help as a result, because of the health care mess in this country. Bryan’s case was highly publicized due to him being assaulted on Dodger territory. IMO, the Giants can’t be expected to help out everywhere there is a Giants fan hurt in the future, whether by an accident or a crime, on the grounds of some other MLB park, or even an opposition minor league facility across the nation where a minor league Giants fan is attending a game. This is a difficult and touchy situation for the Giants, we know that. They have handled it with class and aplomb, so as much as I’ve knocked Baer in the past, I give kudos to him and the ownership for their supportive actions. In this day and age, there is a fine line between helping out and being accused of exploiting such a situation for some type of business PR advantage. As for the Dodgers, the lawsuit process must take its course. For McCourt and the new Dodger owners, it is not unexpected they are not helping at this point. That is why they have insurers; plus the insurers would deny them their contractual coverage if they did contribute anything before the suit is settled, as the insurers could claim it taints their legal position (and breaches the insurance contract) as an admission of liability. This is the way it works in our country. We don’t have to like it, and we don’t. I know well how these things play out, and they take a long time. That’s part of the play of the insurance companies, putting leverage on the victims, particularly in cases like this where the amounts at stake are huge, and a lifetime of care is required. I don’t like it, that’s partly why I got out of that particular arena many moons ago. We can rail all day long about the health insurance situation in this country, and I would gladly be a part of that parade, but it would not solve anything. (Sure, let’s privatize medicare with vouchers so that insurance companies can rip us off with denied claims when we’re 80 years old and can’t fight back — it’s the insurance company wet dream law — a blank check directly issued from the US Treasury). We can only solve that stuff if we stop electing people to office that are bought and paid for by corporations, and we elect Presidents and Senators who don’t put corporate shill justices onto the SCOTUS who then co-opt a presidential election by one vote using legal arguments that directly contradict their past positions. That takes a different blog, of which there are many others out there. Meanwhile, I hope the Dodgers lawsuit settles as quickly as possible so that Bryan gets back to the level of care he needs…
Excellent post.
Thanks for providing another ( and better ) “soapbox moment”. Where the responsibilty or even the good will to provide funds for Bryan’s care is hardly a simple matter. What IS clear is that the Stow family is one of thousands of families facing a financial and emotional dilemma that has nothing to do with the Dodgers, the Giants, or even his attackers. Bryan was born with the right to health care cradle to grave… and many people do do more than just rail about the health insurance industry, BTW….
If Bryan’s family wins their lawsuit I’ll be happy for them, and they’ll receive the care for Bryan that he deserves. One down…
You’ve hit upon the crux of the thing in this country, Oracle. There are many people in this country who believe that even basic health care is not a right of being human, it is a privilege. If it’s not in the Constitution, then it doesn’t exist. Of course, most of these folks already have health insurance in some form or another, can pay for health care on their own due to extreme wealth, or even are on Medicare, rendering the position hypocritical to the extreme. These are the same folks who want to do away with Social Security and even Medicare (for everybody else). They are adherents to what I call the “Titanic survivor syndrome” — they are in the lifeboats already, and don’t want to accept anybody else that’s still floating in the water. The “privilege, not a right” argument holds water in the third world where merely eating from day to day is a crap shoot. But, in first world countries, no other country except ours, that I know of, puts the profit motive into caring for the health of its non-senior citizenry…
Well said, snarkk…
Great post Snarkk! Better than any columnist or op-Ed could have crafted.
Blade and SanDawg — re my post last night, we’re also requiring the older Snarkette as a condition of getting the iPhone to pay 50% (about $15/$20) of the monthly phone access charge for the extra phone. We’re “mean” parents. 😉 Or, we’ve just created an incentive for working more neighborhood babysitting hours in the summer…
Good move in my opinion. I remember moving out of the house when I was 18 and returning at 19. I had to pay rent. Most kids have it too easy today insofar as their parents having minimal expectations. You and a few other Flapper parents seem to be the exception.
Per the SF Gate, “Pill rarely was used. The Giants are convinced beyond doubt now that Brandon Belt can handle left-handed pitching, and he’s getting all the starts.”
I’m not really understanding these suspension days. Kennedy got 10 days (2 starts) that seems reasonable. But Gibson and Mattingly got 1 day? That’s a joke. And Puig got nothing?!?!??!?!? MLB wants to keep Puig in the LU, there’s no other way to explain how he got off without a suspension…….
Agreed, weird. Bochy got an automatic 1 day for sitting on his ass in the dugout while Kontos did his thing, meanwhile Mattingly is out there doing Wrestlemania impressions, and Gibson is in the middle of the scrum…
from 5:30 till about 5:45 of the main fight video, Puig is punching guys, hard, including a sucker punch over a Dodger and into the body or face of a D-back (I think it was Ward but not sure).. And he gets nothing for that. What a joke.
Maybe they gave Puig mitigation points for getting hit in the face by Kennedy (in addition to points for putting butts in the Latrine’s seats)…
I’m sure the Puigie hound was just trying to energize the rest of the litter…
1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF
2. Tony Abreu (S) 2B
3. Buster Posey (R) C
4. Hunter Pence (R) RF
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7. Andres Torres (S) LF
8. Joaquin Arias (R) 3B
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
80 degrees, clear.
How many different line-ups have the G-men used this year? MudBug in the 5 hole today (I think that’s a first this season). I don’t have a problem with it…there have been so many damned moving pieces for Bochy in trying to put the best team on the field. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pull a LaRussa and have a SP in the 8 hole sometime soon.
Stop the Chop – Kick the Bravos’ asses!
He’s tried the LaRussa version of the “optimized LU” before..
BTW, Crawford has batted 5th once this year. He was 3 for 4 with a HR.
Crawford has come a long way since April of 2012.
I figured you would know if that were the case, Michael. Thanks. 😉
SD, it could be possible at some point Magic gets ahold of the other owners and says “Hey, I’m Magic Johnson; I don’t tolerate losing. It’s embarrassing to me to have my name associated with a losing team. We need to show the fans we’re not taking this stuff lightly. ” Or something like that. Just a narrative I imagined as a possibility. (grin)
I appreciate you painting that picture Zumiee!
I would compare Magic getting involved in Mattingly’s job status to Orlando Cepeda going to Sabean and telling him to get Brett Pill some more at-bats. Sabes would probably tell him to go smoke a bowl and get back to shaking hands and hocking Cha-Cha bowls. …and Cepeda is a baseball HOF’r!
I’m a much bigger fan of the Cha-Cha bowl then I am of Cepeda, I have to admit. He was from the time before I was a Giants fan. I don’t know what’s in the Cha-Cha bowl besides chicken and rice. But it’s a great meal. A little pricey at $10 or whatever it is, but it’s very filling.
I’m having me a Cha-Cha bowl on September 7—-mark it down!!!
I am not sure how much weight he pulls (regardles of the fact that he is “Magic Johnson”). He is a minority owner. And frankly, I don’t give a flying fuck what the Bums do, really.
One thing I would do if I were MLB re: these beanbrawls and fights, is to ban participation by the Pen guys. It is just laughable that as soon as a batter and pitcher get into it, and the dugouts start emptying, the Pen guys get up off their asses from the lower 40 Pen areas (in stadiums like Dodger stadium that have separate Pen areas beyond the outfield walls) and all sprint across the field into the fray. They should have a ban on that, and/or severe fines and suspensions for doing it, like they do in the NBA for getting off the bench and joining a fight. Absolutely asinine for the entire Pen to run in there as a group and join the scrum, adding totally unnecessary fuel to the fire, just to show that they “have the back” of their teammates. Absurd…
And some of the Dodger pen were sucker-punching guys, because of arriving late. The Dodgers got off lightly on the suspensions, overall.
Nightengale, for USA Today, wrote a column the other day about how this fight could really energize the Dodgers. Add that to the list of columns and articles that are about the Dodgers “waking up” or “getting a lift” or “being energized.” It’s a growing sub-genre in the sports media world. Pretty soon the sub-genre will have its own Dewey Decimal number.
Well, WTF…nothing else has worked to date. They can stay as dead as a doormat for all I care.
Maybe if they had a cage match where the relief staff of the team that’s up, charges the other pen. Kidding.
I agree snarkk, usually things are already settled by the time these guys get there and if it’s not settled they only add to the stupidity. .
The default baseball “brawl” that entailed much milling about, preening for the gamer babes in the stands, and a few half-hearted cries of “lemme at ’em” , should be the benchmark for all such kerfuffles and anyone daring to actually throw a punch in anger should be dealt with in the most draconian manner that might prevent such future aggression- a month of eating only what Krukow says he’s “gotta have.”…
I don’t know…I kind of like Dusty’s idea…let ’em “drop their gloves” like they do in the NHL. JK. 😉
Flav asked yesterday: “I don’t know how to find this stat, but it *feels* like there have been more 16/17/18/19 inning games this year than ever before. Anyone know where to see that stat?”
I just read something from the AP that might be of help:
“Of the 110 extra-innings games played so far this season through Thursday, 14 of those had gone 14 or more innings. That is tied for the most 14-plus-inning games in any season through June 13 since 1920, according to STATS LLC.
“There were also 14 such games in 1976 and 1983. Since 1920, the 110 extra-innings games are second-most at this stage of the season since 114 in 2011.”
wow, that’s insane. And it’s only June 14th. Of course, you never know, we could see a long break from these long extra inning games. Thanks for posting that, Mac.
Oh, I just re-read your post. That was through June 13th. So it’s a lot but not insanely ahead of a pace like I first thought
Two words: “fewer steroids”…
Or, five words — “fewer steroids in the hitters”… 😉
Or, “more steroids in the pitchers”…
Can somebody remind me about what tix level I have to get for Flapalooza on Sept 7? It’s any Club Level seat, right? Because we’re probably going to meet at a Club level bar area anyway. Therefore, the cheapest Club level seat is probably a good idea since I won’t be sitting in it much?…
Speaking of which, Flav what is the deal on my ticket for that game?
I sent you an email
I believe that was the plan. I have my tickets for that game. I picked them up in March (Club Level – 232) for $37 apiece.
Tix available in 232 for $57 each. Get ’em while they’re hot (and cheap)…
Is that on Stubhub or Giants site, Chi?…
Per Yahoo, “Matt Kemp (hamstring) will not be activated during the Dodgers’ current roadtrip.
That means we can rule out his return until at least June 24. Kemp was originally aiming to return sooner, but the Dodgers slowed down his timetable after he had a minor setback last weekend.” It’s amazing that I have him and Tulo (DL) on my FL team and I’m still winning. One reason is Jean Segura, who is a very, very close 2nd to Tulo as a SS. In fact, I have Segura on 2 of 3 of my FL teams.
Snarkk– yes club level. And your plan of “cheapest” makes sense as I would expect a good part of the game being watched behind the glass and talking with fellow flappers wearing orange sombrero’s
OK, gracias…
Hadn’t seen our old friend Nate S. in a while, and he just hit a bomb at Citi Field.
He’s heatin’ up could be a good time to ride one of his Summer hot streaks
Yeah, just fucked up my “streamer” pick up of Marcum. Dumb, dumb, dumb blade.
Ooops. I did the “steamer” thing last week, both times with pitchers going against the Marlins. Although with Stanton back, I might ease up on that strategy.
Marcum has been dog shit tonight. Five runs on him already. Fuck. I was making a move in the Flap league. Pfffft!
Estes is so fuckin’ dumb. He just said that Pence is “probably the fastest guy on the team.”
Um, I’m guessing Blanco, Torres or Perez might be up for a race-off with Pence.
Comcast seems to have one requirement to qualify you for the pre game/post game gig: be stupid as fuck.
Nothing else explains the employment of Estes or Bip or JT (and Vida and Laskey are barely ahead of them)
Don’t forget your all time favorite lady…..for those post game interviews!
Say hello to the White Shark.
Shit, I thought that was going to the moon.
is that cause of your 3-D tv? I’m picturing you ducking out of the way of line drives up the middle. 🙂
Nah, looking at it via the Twin PC . . . 3D TV doesn’t arrive until Wednesday. Shit, this is a big step for me . . . My old Toshiba is circa 2000 and weighs about a million lbs. Unbelievable I got someone to take it off my hands.
Man, Blanco sure is rakin’ it.
Yeah you right.
The Braves announcers sound like they are completely fucked up tonight. I don’t think I can recall a time that they’ve been so complimentary of the Giants. They must be hammered.
5 SO for the Bum, Madison guy
the Gmen’s Nemesis: opposing pitcher. Wish I could have seen that instead of listening on the radio.
Surkamp makes another start tonight, he could certainly be on the radar Heston made his best start in AAA last night, a 4 hit CG shut out, 5 H 2 BB 9 K.He, Kickham, and Surkamp are all potential MLB starters but all bottom end of the rotation guys. It puts brighter light on the pitching going foward, though, with the top guys ( Blackburn, Crick( currently injured), Blach, Escobar, Stratton, Agosta) ready to move up.
Twin I really like Stratton &Agosta.
Stratton could easily be a #2-3 guy in the future.
Agosto easily a #4.
They both have great stuff,just need some time to harness their control.
Yeah Flavor, I definitely think Estes is”not the sharpest tool in the shed” when we have guys like Blanco,Torres,haven’t seen enough of Perez or Abeu yet to form an opinion on their speed.
However Hunter is the smartest base-stealer we have.
Damm if isn’t 13 for 13 on steal attempts,now that’s impressive.He picks his spots and gets good jumps.Love this guy.He plays the game hard,hustles like no other,and puts up numbers every year.
He’s got Marty Feldman’s eyes. I think Hunter is awesome.
How ya doin’ kat?
Is that like Betty Davis eyes?
Bozo must be high on something.
Flav – it was a Dick Bright parody
Her head is growing bald
Her feet are twice her size
She says it’s not her fault
She’s got Marty Feldman eyes
She’ll turn the sprinklers on you
And dry you off with her thighs
She’ll confuse the hell out of you
She’s got Marty Feldman eyes
Nipper – nice to see you post when the Giants are winning. Boo Hoo, Nipper Lou.
Buster is “en fuego” tonight…
WHEW! those one run innings were getting boring.
Torres had turned into Fred Lewis on defense– on one of Fred’s bad days. WTF was up with quitting on the ball?
The dude used to be able to play all three OF spots, I don’t get it.
Yes, curious it is. If we’re in a late inning one run game, at this point I don’t want him out there in LF for defensive purposes. Put Blanco in LF and Perez in CF for defense…
I don’t know that he quit on the ball, he just couldn’t get a haandle on it and when he did, it was too late. It seems to me that his errors have come from rushing, being too anxious. That’s my take on the cause, I’m not excusing it.
Better than Fred Astaire . . . Umm, I think.
Pawlie will never admit this, probably, but every time he goes to the ballet the Giants win. Every. Single. Time.
Oh, you know I ADMIT it; that’s why I texted you from the ornate Academy of Music on Broad Street, Philly.
Belt certainly did himself no favors in this game with RISP. It’s feast or famine with his ABs…
He did hit a couple balls hard…
So did my Avatar dog when the doofus jumped up on me last week, and he knocked in as many runs doing it… 😉
Well, it happens. Buster drove in 4 runs in Pittsburgh without even hurting the ball’s feelings. Everybody goes thru both extremes.
who’s warming up, I mas making a cup of tea
I gotta believe the Sanchez call up is a showcase. We don’t need 3 catchers and a mediocre SH doesn’t really make up for a decent RH bat off the bench.
I’m not down with the show case. It sounds great but with all the detailed scouting that goes on, teams don’t really care what a guy does over the course of 1o-15 at bats.
Then I don’t get his call up at all. I really don’t see the Giants trading Belt or another starter during a run, could happen, but I just don’t see it.
I never understood the big money Atl. gave BJ. Guess I was right?
You should have called them! Coulda saved em 75 mil
ever since Ted kicked Jane to the curb (kerb, uk) we just have lost touch.
Tell Jane I said, hello, edd. Loved her in Klute…
Back2Back shut outs
heee! doggie
Hell of a game. Good job Bum.
Well done, MadBum.
Rosario blowing it by ’em at 95. Nice
The Giants crawl away from the flame of .500 ball while the doggers sink slowly in the west
🙂
Thats a helluva line, Edd. If Pawlie were here I think he’d agree.
Hey, already at 4 wins for this trip means everything else is gravy for the rest of it, so they should get some. That win in Pitt yesterday was huge for the team psyche, IMO…
‘nite Gents, C ya ’round the yard
Way to bring it home edd. Cheers man.
Gnite, er, Gmorning, edd…
I really don’t appreciate it when Kuiper speaks post-game in-between bites of a polish dog or burger or Slim Jim or “kringle” or whatever the hell he’s chewing on. I’m on radio now, and I can hear the lip smacking. Ticks me off for some reason…
It’s his way of showing that he doesn’t like doing those post-game wraps, so he often eats during them, like they’re cutting into his dinner time. It is kind of annoying. He really shuts down during those.
I guess the thing that annoys me about that a little is that Fleming is in charge of those post-game wraps, and trying hard to make something out of it, and Kuiper doesn’t really give him much. That’s not too cool, IMO.
Unprofessional and embarrassing, if you ask me. Nobody did, of course.
He’s essentially tenured, so he obviously could care less about how that sounds/looks…
I’m a big Kuiper fan, but I hear ya about the post-game wrap. At least the other three guys seem to be into it. (grin)
At least he doesn’t belch on air.
Yet…
That was an inspired, awakened, and unified Dodger team that went out and lost 3-0 to the Pirates tonight.
lol I was thinking the same thing about an hour ago…….
The Puigster is an exciting young player who might be good enough to keep them out of 5th.
Night all.
I listen to most games on the radio and I gave up on that post game wrap a couple of years ago. Back then at least, they all just tried to make each other laugh and I couldn’t stand it. I’m not much of a Kuip fan, but I actually like him a bit more if you’re right about your theory (which sounds plausible to me) about him intentionally eating on mic to make a statement about what a waste of time the post game show is.
I like Kuiper better on radio actually than on TV. The radio gig seems to energize him more, maybe because he can talk more and let it flow.
I like the K&K schtick with people in the crowd on the TV broadcasts. I know that not everybody digs that schtick. It has nothing to do with baseball often, but it’s entertaining, to me, how they can concoct a whole little mini-drama or comedy about something going on in the crowd.
BF, your buddy “Monty” on KNBR is raising the Bryan Stow issue right now. Did he read your thread?…
Giants win. Dodgers lose. Rox lose. Snakes lose. I’d call that a successful night.
Schulman’s game story carries a headline that “Bumgarner throws 6-0 shutout over Braves”. Huh?
I know that Schulman doesn’t write the headlines.
Since when is throwing a 7 inning start, granted with no runs given up, = throwing a “shutout”?…
Ballet in Philadelphia = San Francisco Giants win. It’s a fecking lock every time. Ever since 2010 NLCS clincher. Dude!
“Pas de Giants”?…
relevés
Bum was definitely en pointe tonight…
What’s the opposite of the dreaded hangover of loss? Sitting at Toasting, 12th and Spruce Streets, Philadelphia, with bengali blend tea w/ milk and toasted, buttered cinnamon-raisin bagel, sunshine splashing the sidewalk across from shaded shadows. Reminds me somehow of my two pregame World Series mornings in SF, in 2010 and 2012. #basking Oh yeah. #basking
Nice