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The Giants *Talk* Doesn’t Match Their *Walk* When it Comes to International Players

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on August 30, 2013

The other day I threw out a topic about what the Giants will need to do going forward to keep up with the LA Art Dealers who have no fiscal plan or budget. The response was tepid, most of you said “stay the course, this was a one-off year” etc…

Baggs interviewed Bobby Evans who tried to sound like the team is shifting course a bit and will put more of an effort into scouting international talent. Baggs said: “The club’s scouting department is being mobilized like never before, according to sources. Even Pat Burrell has a plane ticket to Tokyo…”

Excuse me if I don’t jump for joy that Pat Burrell is headed to Japan to fire down as much sushi and bag as many babes as he can in a 48 hour period…..

Evans goes on to say (paraphrasing from what Baggs wrote): “The Giants did their homework on Cespedes and Puig along with EVERY OTHER INTERNATIONAL FREE AGENT.”

Um, that doesn’t quite fly with me. They scouted EVERY OTHER INTERNATIONAL FREE AGENT? Doesn’t that sound a little weird to you? I doubt any team had scouts take a look at every, single one.

And Bobby, if you *did your homework* why did Brian Sabean say this after the A’s signed Cespedes to a paltry 4 year/36 million dollar deal back in February of 2012: “We think the price tag is probably beyond what his talent level is.”

So what we can conclude from this is that the Giants do their homework, their problem is they take the “Jeff Spicoli” approach to studying…..

Spouting off words to the press means nothing to me. And the days of scoring guys like Puig, Ryu and Cespedes for 30-40 million dollar deals are gone-zo. Expect those deals to double or triple for Tanaka and Abreu (and I’m not talking about the guys standing next to President Obama in the team pic taken at the White House last month)….

All we can do is pray that Pat the Bat doesn’t have a thing for Asian chicks……

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  1. Nipper said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:30 am

    What about the Giants found underpaying club house personnel by the Feds? Lousy PR!

  2. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:30 am

    I think jury is still out on Cespedes. He’s made a lot of mistakes in the OF, and this season he’s mostly been crap at the plate—low OB and BA with some long shots thrown in. He’s hitting .227, which ain’t exactly $9mil a year type number for a guy in the middle of the order. Maybe it’s sophomore jinx, but we’ll see if he pulls out of it. Sabes could well be right about A’s over paying for this guy.
    Puig obviously has a lot to learn yet too, and has cooled off considerably from hot start. Wouldn’t surprise me he suffers the *soph jinx* next year as league gets more hip and his numbers drop off dramatically.
    White Sox have a Cubano OF who also has great power but Ks a ton and is hitting .260, Dayan Viciedo. He hit 25 bombs a year ago but hits nearer bottom of LU for them now.
    Both Cespedes and Puig have been fortunate enough to be on teams that are winning. If they weren’t I think they would be in for a lot more grief from teammates, fan base and writers. I’d be real hesitant about tossing big bucks long term deals to guys who have only played overseas. For every Ryu out there you can also have a bunch of Dice Ks. That SS the A’s signed from Japan is still in Sacto, and can’t play SS either.

  3. unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:38 am

    Any ‘Fast Times . . . ‘ reference is good with me. The thing is, for all their splashy starts, Puig is showing to be a clown of the highest order, and Evans may be right about Cespedes.

    Still and all, position player drafting needs to improve, no matter where they get these guys.

  4. xoot said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:32 am

    The Cubans and Japanese and Koreans, too, I suppose, are proven players. It’s a new FA market the Giants need to get into. They will. They’ve done ok in Latin America for a long time, where the FAs are signed as kids, before they’ve developed much. Last year’s WS MVP, for example.

  5. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:33 am

    Giants are finally going to be out of paying Zito after coughing up the buyout, which was $7mil if I remember right. If you look around it seems like the big long term deals for FAs aren’t going away, either.

    Cano is going to get outrageous coin from someone. ellsbury is supposedly looking for big bucks too with reports saying Sox aren’t so sure they are going to do that. Nats paid up big time for werth, who has missed tons of time and obviously isn’t doing much to help them play .500 ball. Pujols, granderson, Arod, Hamilton, Ryan Howard this is a list that could go on and on. And these guys are supposed known quantities who have played here for years, as opposed to crapshoot of foreign players.

    Red Sox have recovered nicely from all the salary dump, and Braves don’t appear to have crumbled after losing Michael Bourn, Chipper Jones and Martin Prado. Every team is built differently and there are a lot of ways to go about *reloading*. Cards actually look stronger without Pujols. I’d rather SF didn’t flash any more big bucks at guys than they already have committed (with an eye to their pending FAs), esp for someone who has only played in obscurity of Cuba or lit up the Korean league.

  6. Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Cespedes went off last year and for all his back-sliding this year, 20 bombs would lead our team….

  7. blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:14 am

    I’m glad you mentioned Abreu Flav. I mentioned this Cuban dude a few days ago and there was a collective “meh” from the Flap peanut gallery regarding him. This is what I posted . . .

    “For those who don’t know, defector Jose Dariel Abreu is an ultra-talented, 6-foot-3, 250-pound, 26-year-old slugger from Cuba. He hit .360 with three home runs and nine RBIs in last spring’s World Baseball Classic. He reportedly is in Haiti now, waiting to enter the United States. When free agency heats up in November, he could be at the center of a bidding war.

    Would the Giants fire off a realistic bid? That’s tough to say. There have been reports that Abreu could get a six-year, $60 million deal. That would exceed the seven-year, $42 million contract the Dodgers gave phenom Yasiel Puig. He is limited defensively and would fit perfectly in the American league DHing . . . GMen are thinking about Belt in left field and this dude could play first? Hmm . . . Just thinking out loud, so don’t shoot the piano player.”

    • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:28 am

      I saw that, nice post.
      Hey, I’m getting a lot of static to go to this birthday party on Sat so dinner is out but I can hit Golds in the am

      • blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:37 am

        No problem . . . I am on your “dime,” so the gym is fantastic . . . We’ll get together another day.

  8. unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:34 am

    And don’t forget Banjo Shinjo . . .

  9. unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:36 am

    And Pat the Bat may not survive his time in the Orient. We know he’ll never see the sun . . .

  10. snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:14 am

    I’ve said here previously a few times that the Giants have to up the ante on their international efforts. Spend money there on scouting, and you’re going to find some diamonds in the rough, and they’ll be cheaper than constantly looking for hangdog FAs you have to overpay. For every Puig, there’s got to be more than a few that cost a million or less to sign under the new international rules when they’re 16 (or 20?). Then develop them, and keep ’em out of bars. Outfielders. Period. Get outfielders. I’m tired of this JC Penney make-do outfield bullshit with AAAA guys and old dudes like Blanco and Torres and Ellison and Ford and Linden and Freddles and Finley and Roberts and Bowker and Velez and on and on and that’s been going on for the last decade. You need three, that’s three decent major league outfielders to really compete, or one star and 2 solid, unless you figure your pitching is going to throw a collective 3.00 against the league. I’m not talking Bonds, Trout and McCutcheon patrolling together out there. Just good, solid OFers that can run, hit and field. Not go 6 for 66 and disappear for 2 months like Blanco. Not misplay line drives consistently and then say sorry, I was hurt. It can’t be THAT hard to find several fuggin major league quality outfielders in the world out of all the guys out there that catch and throw baseballs in the Dominican, in Venezuela, in Puerto Rico, in Japan, in wherever. Sign their ass, and bring them up through your system to START and play in your outfield. The rest of the teams seem to be able to develop outfielders. What’s our excuse?…

  11. chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Do I detect a bit of jealousy re: Pat the Bat’s Asian tour? 😉

    I agree with what most are saying here…that I would be hesitant to pump out big bucks for a LT deal on any of these foreign-born wunderkinds.

    • snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:43 am

      What qualifies Pat the Bat to be a scout that can go to Asia and find players? I’ll hand it to him that he’s still in the game with all the millions he’s got, and he’s been doing this now for a couple of years apparently, but baseball lifers spend years and years learning how to spot talent. He was a major leaguer for a decade, but that’s not scouting. He reportedly was great at scouting other “talent”. Am I wrong in being dubious?…

      • unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:55 am

        No, but what a fucking gig. Jealous? Damn straight. Hmmmm. Sushi followed by bath house followed by massage followed by sake bombs. Day 2 . . .

      • blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 11:03 am

        Great post Chuck. Umm . . . To be frank, this is reminiscent of Paulinasia’s life. 😉

      • snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 11:10 am

        I’d probably go bath house first. Too much sake early might get my dauber down for later activities, so to speak. Hopefully, Pat the Bat won’t be scouting pitchers by trying to hit their fastballs. If he does that, everybody in his reports will be the next Yu Darvish…

      • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 12:47 pm

        Jealous? Bet your sweet ass I am.

      • salty said, on August 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm

        Maybe he fancies himself the next Billy Beane, former player turned scout.

  12. snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 11:02 am

    For the top 50 OFers in the game from mlb.com, here is their average stats for this season to date: 15 HRs, BA .273, OPS .779. Is it asking too much over a decade to develop, in house, a couple of OFers who can do that — and run down ropes, and have some speed on the bags? That’s friggin Kenny Henderson territory from 1972, for kreissakes. Just develop ONE, and then work on more. Though he catches a lotta crap on the blogs and airwaves, Pence is in the top 30 in many OF stat categories, BTW. 16th in BA, 27th OPS, 17 in RBI, 28th in HR, 22nd in SLG. That spells $$$ in an off season contract. And, BTW, Blanco is, amazing to me, in MLB 51st in OPS, SLG, and 43rd in BA, though he’s had a plattoonish 46th in # of ABs.

    From a baseball blog re: 2013: “The San Francisco Giants have reportedly used almost all of their $1,909,900 bonus pool this year to sign three international prospects, Venezuelan outfielder Mikey Edie, and Dominican shortstops Kelvin Beltre and Manuel Geraldo. None of these three youngsters made either Baseball America’s or MLB.com’s list of the top 30 international prospects this year.” http://notanotherbaseballblog.wordpress.com/2013/07/06/san-francisco-giants-2013-international-prospect-signings/

    If Evans is scouting EVERY international free agent, the Giants couldn’t score at least ONE of the top 30 in those lists?
    http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/7/3/4490832/2013-mlb-international-signing-roundup-cubs-rangers-rockies
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/where-the-top-30-international-prospects-have-signed/

  13. salty said, on August 30, 2013 at 11:36 am

    I want G’s to go after this dude
    http://tinyurl.com/kod9wcq

  14. zumiee said, on August 30, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    “Dominican shortstops Kelvin Beltre and Manuel Geraldo.”

    They seem to have an obsession with shortstops. Their lastest first round draft pick was a shortstop also. I realize they can be converted to other infield spots, but still, are they that down on Panik? And what does Crawford think of it all, or maybe he doesn’t even know or care. He’s an established major leaguer now, so he’s probably not worried about what’s happening on the farm.

    • snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 12:49 pm

      There was one OFer of the three internationals mentioned above.
      And, SF took ONE OFer (8th round) in the first ten rounds of this past college draft. One…

  15. salty said, on August 30, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    Giants have been very aggressive signing Dominican teenagers ..but so tough to project how they will develop emotionally and physically. Last yr 16 yr old Gustavo Cabrera, a toolsy OF was given 1.3m signing bonus. Maybe he’ll develop.

    • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 1:17 pm

      they have been *aggressive* signing the teens because they’re cheap. Guys like Cespedes, Ryu and Puig actually cost something. Giants need to stop half-assing their international efforts and sign some of these guys who have defected (or who just decide they want to try the major leagues (see: Darvish)) who are ready to play NOW.

  16. chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    I have been in-and-out the past few days. Anyone heard from Twin? I didn’t see any new posts on his blog. I’ll have to drop him an email. Hope he is well.

    • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      he usually only posts something there when he’s got news. I’ve emailed with him recently, he’s just having a lot of trouble with his hands right now……

      • eddacker said, on August 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm

        Damn, that sucks. Do not get your dauber down my friend.

        🙂

      • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:09 pm

        That sucks. I’ll drop him an email.

  17. Alleykat said, on August 30, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    They tried their “Big Splash” sigining with Angel Villanona, and we all know how that one has turned out.There just scared and cheap now to pull the trigger on international players.

    • unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 3:05 pm

      They drop $2 mill on Angel? Or was it more?

      • snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 3:51 pm

        $2.1 million in August 2006…

    • blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 5:18 pm

      Chump change as far as I am concerned Kat. Agree?

      • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm

        I agree…when you have Cespedes and Puig getting a ton…

  18. paulinasia said, on August 30, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    Per my post in the middle of the night (for you all) at the end of the last thread, the Giants MUST retool. No way putting these same guys out there next year (yes, the same guys who won it all a year before but sucked major dick this year) is going to do it. Insanity is often defined as doing the same thing and hoping for different results. Agree they must ante up more for the international players. Right, difficult to know who will succeed, but they must try. Or *4th place* will be another pipe dream. As for Pat the Bat in Japan…. hey, I teach in my Organizational Behavior classes over here that “a happy employee is a productive employee”. Go get ’em, Pat! Nothing like a warm bottle of sake and a hot body-on-body massage to sharpen your eyes and scout those players… 🙂

    • blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm

      LOL

    • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm

      I agree on the retool. LMAO on the rest of it…classic stuff, Paul…

  19. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Flav, everyone scouts and signs the 16 yr olds in the DR because that’s when they are first eligible. Teams salt these guys away in their academies (read dorms with 3 squares for likely first time in their lives) and play their asses off. That’s why guys lie about their age–no one wants to sign the 18-19 year olds, only the younger ones.
    As Salt said, it’s hard to envision how they will develop. The DR is a poor country, and these kids are underfed and under-educated, except they all know how many expensive cars Robinson Cano has in his garage.
    And I would go further and say other foreign lands are a lot like here—everyone knows who the Yu Darvishes are. Finding good solid and way less expensive players at a young age who might develop into mlb caliber starters is tough.

    • xoot said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:03 pm

      Not all the Caribe countries are like DR. Venezuela’s very different–well developed leagues, etc. I think Pablo came from what we would call an upper middle-class background. Scutaro’s family was fairly comfortable, too, I believe.

      • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:16 pm

        Yep, and on the opposite end of the spectrum are the guys like Tejada….

      • willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:42 pm

        Xoot, I didn’t mean they were alike in terms of economics, but more in the sense that the top prospects like a Darvish are well known to all, so signing them becomes tougher and more expensive.

      • xoot said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:46 pm

        I agree–the Asian and Cuban FAs are in completely different markets. They’re either proven or half the way there.

  20. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 6:21 pm

    One last thought on Cespedes and I’ll let this go. Yes he does have 20 bombs, but next move is up to him, because pitchers have figured out what to do with him, and what not to do. If come next july he is hitting .240 with pop and still playing LF like Fred, I’d bet Beane flips him somewhere for prospects and figures out a better way to spend $9 mil a year.

  21. blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Absolutely no one here can convince me otherwise that similar to that song, “American Pie,” the music died when Crazy Horse went on the DL. That was a text book example of how the Giants scored before his injury.

  22. eddacker said, on August 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Crazy Horse doubles on his first at bat back then scores. Belt with the RBI.

    cool

  23. James said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    What the heck, why not, it’s a challenge saying the same thing over and over again differently:

    The Dodgers’ pitchers OPS is 200 points higher than the Giants’. This has accounted for ~15 more runs for LA than the Giants have scored. Subtracting those runs leaves a differential of 17 runs scored between the Giants and LA. The difference in runs allowed is 114.

    The Pirates have scored 15 more runs than the Giants. They have allowed 127 fewer runs.

    When we talk about retooling the team, who specifically should be taken out of the shed? If the Giants had Sandoval at an 850 OPS, a full year of Pagan at 775, and Kenny Henderson patrolling LF, this team would still be well under 500.

  24. blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    “blah, blah, blah . . . this team would still be well under 500.”

    “Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination.”
    Vin Scully

    “I can prove anything by statistics except the truth.”
    George Canning

    • James said, on August 30, 2013 at 7:48 pm

      In a game, if you score 4 runs and the opposition scores 5, you lose. Over 100 games, if you score 400 runs and the opposition scores 500, you will lose more game than you win. If you score 450 runs and allow 500, you lose more games than you win.

      • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:17 pm

        Are you gonna come to ATT on Sept 7th and ramble around the park mumbling out this shit? I think it will translate better in person, I hope you show up. 🙂

      • blade3colorado said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:18 pm

        James, that’s fine if you are playing on your Nintendo Gameboy. These guys are human.

        Also, please explain this . . . In the playoffs last year, the Giants and Reds began with two games in San Francisco. Cincinnati, who posted a better won-lost record than the Giants, hosted the final three games. The Giants lost the first two games at home in San Francisco, yet won the last three on the road. The Giants became the first major league team to win three straight road games in a best-of-five playoff series after losing the first two games at home. By the by, the Reds were favored in that series.

        In the second round of the playoffs, the National League Championship Series, they came back from a three-games-to-one deficit to defeat the St. Louis Cardinals. Again, they were underdogs in that series as well. Through this playoff course, the 2012 Giants became the first National League team and the second team in American major league baseball history (after the 1985 Kansas City Royals) to win six consecutive playoff games in which they had faced elimination.

        There’s more . . . The Tigers became only the third team to be swept in the World Series after sweeping the League Championship Series (LCS), joining the 1990 Oakland Athletics and the 2007 Colorado Rockies with this distinction. Again, the Tigers were favored to win the World Series easily. Uhh huh. Incidentally, the Giants franchise clinched its last four World Series victories away from home.

        Let me know when you come up with an algorithm or statistics to explain all of the aforementioned. Take your time.

      • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:19 pm

        and if you do show up, I’ve got a guaranteed formula that proves all this shit inconsequential. Yes, I said it. Now show up to get your stats-ass handed to you…….

      • James said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm

        Yeah, I’ll be there. I actually don’t remember talking much baseball at the first Flapalooza. I’m prepared to be humbled by your devastating logarithmic algorithmic slap down 🙂

        Blade, unsurprisingly, I suck at math. That’s why I keep it very simple. The Giants were a very good team last year, especially the offense. They got to the playoffs, and were both very lucky and good.

        Oh, and Vin Scully’s English major constructions are more offensive to me than a Ron Cey shot over the 365 sign. Jon Miller is exactly 100 times wittier.

      • Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:01 pm

        whatever, looking forward to seeing you again. You were the first guy I met at Flapalooza 1.0 and I had a great time talking with you throughout the evening.

      • James said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm

        Very much looking forward to it, too. I woulda been there last year, if we hadn’t been out of town.

  25. unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    James, say you lose a game 10-0 and win 2 games 1-0.

    Wow! Nice play Pablo.

    Who is more responsible for the wins? Hitting or pitching? Their ERA is not very good, but is more responsible for the wins.

  26. PawlieKokonuts said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Well, shit, by the look of the blinking dots, I’d say Mr. Lincecum did some pitching, old-time pitching out of a jam, in the 6th! Was the inning-ending play by Sandoval and Belt as fantastic as I am guessing?

  27. unca_chuck said, on August 30, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    More!

  28. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    James, hang in there my man. Sad to hear last week about passing of Cedar Walton. I listened to “Mode for Joe” CD today, and Blakey’s *Mosaic* too. The first blakey I ever bought had CW on it along with woody shaw (another guy who left the planet way too soon), called “Anthenagin”, LP from early 70s. Saw CW play a couple times live, consummate professional.
    Kind of reminds me of Javier Lopez…wish we had a few more like him.

    • James said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      One of the first great jazz shows I saw was Frank Morgan with Cedar and Billy Higgins. It was at the first Koncepts Kultural Gallery space, which I think was in now swingin’ midtown Oakland. Sad news . . . and sorry you can’t make it on the 7th.

  29. chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    BALLGAME! WHOOT!!

    Some Crazy Horse Magic???

  30. Flavor said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Timmy gets his one run. Ha.
    Pagan returns.
    Nice win.

  31. Macdog said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Yeah, right, Pagan doesn’t make a difference.

  32. PawlieKokonuts said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    another impressive win

  33. willedav said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    Great D tonite too, most enjoyable to watch, esp when prado and golds got burned on the same H/R he burned them, except Giants switched the guy covering 2b and turned the DP as he dogged it.

  34. chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Sweet win…welcome back Crazy Horse! Jon Miller described it quite well…”Pagan providing the catalyst…”

  35. snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    With tonight’s win, Timmeh will probably be “up”, or is it down, to I’ll guess about 5th worst in MLB for run support. If Pagan being back means we get one run, I’m not sure that’s so great. I love the win, but I’m knocking on wood he doesn’t hurt himself. I’d rather we see the callups play in a few days, he can play in spots and save his hammy for next year…

    • chipower9 said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:59 pm

      Agree…when there was initially talk about if he should come back…I was an emphatic NO. I was cringing when he was on first and they were talking about a double in the gap. I could just see him trying to score from 1st and blowing out that hammy again…

    • snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm

      My bad. The updated stats on ESPN show Tim is now 7th worst in run support in the NL. 10th worst in MLB. Bum is 11th worst in NL. When I see these putrid run support numbers, I don’t see how James can put most of the blame for the crap season on the pitching stats…

  36. snarkk said, on August 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Does Panda make that great play at 3rd wearing those extra 22 lbs? I doubt it…

  37. paulinasia said, on August 31, 2013 at 5:48 am

    Oh shit, another post from me in no man’s land… James, I respect you and your stats acumen very much. However, I am SOOOOOO tired of hearing your analysis that it was the pitching that sunk the Giants this year, because of the total runs allowed over the entire course of the season, especially compared to last year. Yeah, they were not what they were last year. That has nothing to do with anything THIS year. The simple fact is (and stats simpletons like me look for simple facts), when the pitching was really sucking the first two months of the season, the Giants were well above .500 and in the race. After that, the pitching improved and the offense went south (right about when Pagan went down), and they plummeted in the standings ever since. Total season-long stats do not tell the story of what happened with the team this year. At ALL. And if I was able to be at Flapalooza, I would buy you a beer because of your stats acumen, and because you’re a great Flapper. I just don’t understand how the numbers keep blinding you about why this team failed this year. But we would never agree on this, so it doesn’t matter, it’s all just mental masturbation. You want to believe it was the pitching that put the G’s in last place, go right ahead. I’ll continue to opine, based on actually watching what happened on the field time and time again, that the pitching has actually been ok and the offense has completely sucked. I know your total stats don’t show that. Thank God baseball is played on the field and not on a fucking calculator. I don’t see much fun in that…

    • Flavor said, on August 31, 2013 at 6:22 am

      like button

    • blade3colorado said, on August 31, 2013 at 11:48 am

      Flav pointed out your awesome post at the gym this morning Paul. Spot on in my opinion!

  38. Bozo said, on August 31, 2013 at 7:13 am

    A one to nothing win, Beau Jocque blasting and a couple of cups of Peets can really fire a guy up. Think I’ll get out the chain saw. No math needed.


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