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Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on September 15, 2013

19 runs scored. The most ever at Dodger Stadium. Think about how many thousands of games the Dodgers have played at Dodger Stadium and they have never scored more in a game than the Giants did last night.

Epic win. Finish off the LA Art Dealers today and I could give a shit less what happens in New York this week…..

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  1. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 9:56 am

    Me too. I updated my blog post from yesterday with a few more pics that Chi provided, along with a few other pics from my visit. Enjoy your day everyone. Going to meet a friend to watch the Packers play this morning (he’s a fan, not I). Catch ya on the other side.

    Go Giants! Go Niners!

  2. Rooster's avatar Rooster said, on September 15, 2013 at 9:58 am

    BF – that UCLA, Stanford game is looming large on the schedule this season.

  3. willedav's avatar willedav said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:05 am

    Vogs vs. Volquez. Doubt this one is a pitcher’s duel either.
    Wheeler goes Tuesday, fwiw. Mets 13 games under at home. Wtf?
    Really would enjoy seeing SF ruin Yanks post season hopes. And Pence get 100 rbis.
    Thought I saw Belt passed Posey for team OPS lead, slugging too. Good for him to have solidified his spot as #3 hitter. I know it’s end of season but good to see so many positives lately. Like to see more of Peguero/Perez.

    What kind of offer do you make for Pence, yrs/$ ($$$$$$)?

    • Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:07 pm

      Pence is in the driver seat right now,with what he has done down the stretch.Throw in just the torrid last 5 games with 3 bombs 16 Rbi’s avg over .290 now,throw in the team lead in steals and oh what the hell start all 162 games.

      Giants need him bad imo,are they have 2 outfield spots to fill .Yeah im in line with Twin,hoping to get it done with 4yrs but im bumping it up some more to 78 mil,with a club option on the 5 th year as well.Get it done,cause Hunter comes to play all-out, all the time, and that’s a good thing to see,and it rubs off on his teammates as well.

  4. sportdude's avatar sportdude said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:17 am

    Start with 4/$ 60M

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:28 am

      4 /72 with a club option on year 5. the guy’s making 13.8 now and about to have one of his best seasons ever playing 81 games at att.

  5. James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:19 am

    Last night was awesome, but over the last dozen games I want to see more positive signs of what this crew can bring next year.

  6. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 11:05 am

    sorry, kat. no monell…

    1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF

    2. Marco Scutaro (R) 2B

    3. Brandon Belt (L) 1B

    4. Hunter Pence (R) RF

    5. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B

    6. Hector Sanchez (S) C

    7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS

    8. Juan Perez (R) LF

    9. Ryan Vogelsong (R) P

  7. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Beautiful afternoon at Berkeley yesterday for the game. In over 30+ years going to football games there, I’ve never seen so many oppo fans in the streets and in the stands. Besides the early drunks, pretty well behaved, were the Buckeye people. They knew they were going to win, so why not be in a good mood? Anyway, Cal’s defense was thoroughly outclassed, as expected. They’ve got injury problems, guys playing out of position, a WR playing in the secondary because a DB starter is out for the season with a knee, and oh, yeah, Tedford left the D talent cupboard pretty bare. They need speed on the line, and size+speed in the secondary. Buckeyes punted once, once, that I remember. Dykes has one goal recruiting this winter — get defensive players, NOW. The good news is that Goff is the real deal. For an 18 year old string bean, this kid already has all the throws after 3 games in the big time. He can fire the 20 yard out pattern on a string. He can lob one in the seam over the Lbacker’s head. He can loft one in the far corner of the end zone. Already. Give this kid 2 full years in the offense, some more growing and getting bigger, and this kid as a junior should be in the Heismann conversation. By then, maybe the defense can force two punts a game…

  8. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 15, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    UCLA? I’m far more worried about the Oregon game, Rooster, as I am every year……

  9. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Puig hurt and sitting with a sore hip. Uh oh.
    Anyone think Timmy hit Puig by accident? I think it was intentional

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      A hip injury would be a big deal for Puig. His swing is very hip-oriented. He doesn’t take much of a step in his swing; he twists his hips.
      He was injured on the diving catch. He kind of looked like he tweaked the hip when he was trying to get up quickly after the dive.

      • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:14 pm

        I don’t think the hit-batsman was intentional. It seemed like one of Tim’s usual wild pitches to that side of the plate, IMO.

  10. Alleykat's avatar Alleykat said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    I don’t know Z, that fastball was trackin right out of Tim’s hand on Pug face.
    And Tim just quickly covered his ass smartly,by pounding his glove to his chest .Vet move to avoid a brawl.

  11. salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Score was 12-3 at that point, I think. What better time to hit someone on purpose. There’s also no reason to be too fine. That pitch was not close. Might suspicious.
    On the other hand, they have pitched the Puig inside the entire series.
    In any case, it was well done. Not like Zito lobbing one to the well padded Fielder.

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm

      i thought that the softball to fielder’s ass was the proper ‘payback’. as i recall everybody involved got a good chuckle out of it.

  12. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    there are salary drives and then there are salary, what, tsunamis ? baggs seems to think that pence is sincere about wanting to stay here. in the free agent market there’s nobody better, imo.

  13. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I’d even settle for an 18-2 win today.

  14. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Sheesh. Pence is carrying this team. Just imagine if it were, say, May. Or June. Or July. Or August.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:13 pm

      Yeah, I dig Pence, and I hope they re-sign him for a longterm deal; but he kind of disappeared in the middle of the season, and was very frustrating to watch.

  15. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Hey Marco, thanks for stopping by.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      I repeat. WTF is wrong with his back?
      I see a story by Baggs at CSNBA on 4/28 of this year that says the exact same thing. Scuatoro battling “intermittent back tightness” that “cropped up in the spring”…

  16. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    The Pence situation in general illustrates why stats can’t totally be trusted. When the season was on the line, Pence was a huge failure, and now that the Giants are way out of it, he’s tearing it up, and will end up with real good stats.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:22 pm

      But, for sure, they need to re-sign him, obviously.

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:59 pm

      I’m with ya zum. He disappeared for long stretches mid-season…

  17. manny's avatar manny said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    Blanco spit the bit on that one.

    • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:24 pm

      Yup, miss timed it and jumped a bit too soon.

  18. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Lead off triple, can’t score, I’ve seen that one a few times this year. Haw.

  19. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    there was a team wide failure that placed them where they are. pence has consistently put up the kind of numbers that will earn him a much deserved big contract. there is value in finishing well. there are 3 or 4 guys going out there everyday who are leading that effort.

  20. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    This is about the time when Voggy typically does his face plant. Worrisome..

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:57 pm

      And, there’s the cripple double on cue. You could see this coming last inning, he was losing it then, and the outs were hit hard. I don’t see how you can pull the trigger for $6+ million on this guy, since he consistenty starts losing it in the 4th, or the 5th. This was his MO last half of last season (turrible stretch) and he struggled all of this season before the broken finger. I don’t see much yet that makes me want to extend him. The age (37) scares me. Sheesh, even that last out was screamer to Pablo…

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:59 pm

        if it’s determined that he’s healthy, i’d be very surprised if they didn’t excercise vogelsong’s option.

  21. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Fuck me.

  22. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Way to go Hunter!

  23. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Hunter, thank you.

  24. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Pence is simply En Freekin’ Fuego. Whatever he’s doing now, he needs to do next year for the Giants…

  25. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    Fuckyeah Hunter Pence capital H capital P!

  26. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:07 pm

    Surprised that puke Volquez lasted that long. He’s definitely the “weak sister” in that Bum rotation.

  27. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Hi, Flappers. It’s still cool to associate faces and personalities with the names I see here. (Small example: Snarkk is way less snarky than you’d think from here; way more genteel. I could go on….but Magnus already did this.)

  28. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Last 6 games, Hunter must be approaching a .550 BA. Wowsa!

  29. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Pence doesn’t need an agent now. He just needs somebody to take all the offers. I’ll volunteer…

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:19 pm

      No shit. I hope the Giants have contacted Wells Fargo and Bank of America to determine how many armored vehicles will be necessary to carry the scratch he is undoubtedly going to receive.

  30. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    nice- 3 weak grounders for a quick shutdown inning.

  31. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    wilson is looking to be in line for a nice contract .

    • SanDawg's avatar SanDawg said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm

      Has it come out whether or not the Giants chose to offer Wilson a contract before he signed with LA?

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:57 pm

        here’s what baggs said this summer:
        ‘Upper management recognized the value that Wilson had both as an attraction and an endearing figure in franchise history. Others in the organization were put off by Wilson’s antics and the fact he showed up all of the sudden down the stretch, cavorting around the dugout just when all the national cameras showed up.
        But ultimately, CEO Larry Baer told Sabean to make a baseball decision. And part of a baseball decision is making sure you have a healthy and cohesive clubhouse.’

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:51 pm

      but thank goodness he won’t be getting 2 wins in this series..

  32. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Machi K of Uribe, huge.

  33. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    Brett Pill. Fuckin rad.

  34. SanDawg's avatar SanDawg said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Pill! Awesome!

  35. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Quite cool. However, I still like Belt. πŸ™‚

  36. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    How do you like THAT Pill, Mr. Rodriguez?????!!!!!!!!

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:58 pm

      that was off rodriguez, pawlie.

      • PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:05 pm

        yeah, saw that and corrected it — can’t slip any errors by this crowd

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:06 pm

        thanks. i thought i’d had too much clover.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:13 pm

        Twin, you will appreciate this . . . Approximately 3 months ago, I dropped my long distance telephone service because my bundled package of internet (12mbps) and hard wired phone service was becoming to expensive. I threatened to drop phone service entirely, but they convinced me to keep local and that eliminated the long distance and Fed/State fees for the most part, i.e., it was manageable. However . . .

        Apparently, they also reduced my internet speed to around 2.86mbps and I really didn’t notice anything wrong, unless I was watching streaming video, e.g., a Giants game. Coupled with my travel (two trips – Canada and bay area), I really didn’t give it much thought, attributing the slow speed to the link or more times than not, to my pc processor (where I would clean the registry, virus and malware scans, etc.) . . . Fast forward today, I tested the speed and said, WTF???? It was down to the aforementioned 2.86Mbps . . . A quick call to Centurylink (formerly Qwest) corrected the problem and they explained that someone mistakenly reduced my speed . . . Fuck that noise I told them. I want to get reimbursed some scratch. This dude was a tech and although he agreed with me, he indicated that someone from their business office (open on weekdays) would have to address the issue. He noted my complaint in my account and tomorrow I will speak with someone and see if they agree. LOL.

  37. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Attaway Brett.

  38. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 3:58 pm

    You have to go back to Mel Ott (5 HRs and 12 ribbies in a series). Wow. I bow to Hunter.

  39. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Alright, Pill’s earned it. Belt only had 6 RBIs last night. So, Pill’s back on 1B… πŸ˜‰

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:05 pm

      brett’s auditioning for somebody. he should have some value in a bandbox.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm

        He’s about a .235 hitter. Maybe. Somebody could probably use that. I think his destination ultimately is Japan…

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        well, he might be better somewhere else. but i’ve often thought, and posted, that he should talking to vogelsong about how it was living in japan.

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:17 pm

        but .235 hitters with some pop litter the benches in mlb.

  40. salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    Don’t know if it was mentioned on the broadcast, but Pence’s run recalls Randy Winn’s unreal Sept back in 05..
    Hit .439 and 11 hrs.

    • PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:11 pm

      for which team?

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:15 pm

        Giants goofy. Remember the trade which brought him from Seattle????

      • PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:17 pm

        My memory is good only when I want it it to be. E.g., I remember what BeerCan looks like.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:19 pm

        Actually, per San Dawg you messed up the Beer Can story too. So now my biographical blog is more fiction than non-fiction. πŸ™‚

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm

        If she’s BeerCan, I wanna see Veuve Clicquot …

      • PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:32 pm

        I never said it was SanDawg who named her; you misunderstood. Or I was not clear. But i knew from what he told me at the game that that was her nickname. Um, i know her real name, though.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 5:25 pm

        Yeah, Pawlie, you’re right. She is “BeerCan”, I’m pretty sure. How such a lovely thing would get that name, I dunno. My point was that if she’s beer, I wanna see champagne. It’s not good when I have to explain my joke… πŸ˜‰

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:17 pm

      Don’t say that. I don’t think we want to cross pollinate Winn’s deal with Pence…

      • salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:24 pm

        OK bad comparison.

  41. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    Let’s get some Prudential runs.

  42. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Alright Mr. Romo, close this fucker out.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:21 pm

      That’s tellin’ ’em clown. Speaking of clowns, where is Cody now a days????

      • Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:30 pm

        DL with Az the last I heard.

  43. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    I hate bottom 9th at the Latrine…

  44. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Damn.

  45. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    You have to walk this guy.

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      or pitch him very, very carefully, not giving him anything to hit.

  46. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Thank you baseball gods. All of them.

  47. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    Thank you Frisbee gods.
    Haw

  48. blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Pure poetry Puig making the last out. HAHAHA!

  49. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Now THAT’s the way to throw a first pitch to Puig!
    Nice Giant’s win of the series, I thought the best they could do was split…

  50. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    A pleasant way to spend the weekend: Giants wins. Three. Against L.A.

  51. SanDawg's avatar SanDawg said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    What a great series! Now my 15 year old and I can concentrate on these pulled pork patties he found on the internet that we are prepping for the 49er game. Step 1: throw 3 pounds of pork shoulder and a can of root beer in the Crock Pot for 6 hours. Done.
    All my best to Beer Can….and Randy Winn as well!

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      Enjoy Dawg!

  52. James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    Romo with a Wilson-like save.

  53. Macdog's avatar Macdog said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    I watched the wrong Giants today.

  54. Locojuan's avatar Bozo said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    Ha, ha, ha. Haha, haha, ha. Hahaha, hahaha ha. And a haw, haw, haw, ha.
    Go Az, kick some Dodger tail.

  55. salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    Ok Rooster. Your team is looking more like it did in April. Worried they peaked too soon?

  56. James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Still have to make the Zuni pickled red onions for the burgers (Cafe Rouge chuck). The cheese is a Cheshire, undoubtedly part of the litany in the Monty Python skit.

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 4:54 pm

      they weren’t out of it ?

      • James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 5:16 pm

        If they had been, there are about a half dozen other places in Berkeley that would have had it. Cheese connoisseurship . . . a culinary bridge too far.

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 5:22 pm

        maybe we watched different skits. i thought the cat ate it…or the van broke down…

  57. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    nitey night.

  58. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    “there was a team wide failure that placed them where they are.”

    We all understand that. We’re not stupid.

    The point about Pence’s season is still valid.

    • James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:05 pm

      Zumie, Pence is only one player. If the team was in contention, say because the pitchers had performed like the Dodgers’ staff this year, there is absolutely no reason to believe Pence would not be equally hot right now, “leading the Giants pennant drive.” His 2013 season is very similar to his 2011. Pence’s individual stats are in no way diminished because he happened to do very well in September in a down year. It’s all random. Just like Mark Ellis’s performance.

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:11 pm

        What we could use is fewer streaks of 3 for 35 and 5 HRs in 4 games; and a little more 9 or 10 for 35 stretches with a few doubles and a dinger or two…

      • James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:36 pm

        Snarkk, I know you and others will remain skeptical, but over 162 games the evenness of these distributions just doesn’t matter that much. The cumulative stats are all that matter. I can guarantee you that, with the Dodgers’ pitching, the Giants would be vying for the playoffs right now. If we had the Dodgers’ offense, we’d still be well under 500. Sorry, I had to testify the truth one more time πŸ™‚

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:51 pm

        I said “we could use” more (some) Pence consistency. I’m not saying we’re going to get it… πŸ˜‰

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:20 pm

      “We all understand that. We’re not stupid.’
      z’s ‘point’ about pence’s season can be applied to many-in fact, nearly everybody. maybe after the niner game i’ll list the significant slumps- and every regular suffered them when the season was on the line. you are very selective in assigning blame.

      • salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:38 pm

        That’s true, but I think Zumie was singling out Pence is because he’s the one looking for a huge long term deal.

      • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:51 pm

        he’ll get a huge deal, which he’s earned. free agents are rarely rewarded for just a single year- pence will get a huge contract for his performance over several years, not just this year. he’s been a consistent producer *every year*.-and wherever he’s played. he’s about as safe for earning his newcontract as any player in the league.

  59. salty's avatar salty said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:43 pm

    Did they say when the 49er game will resume?

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:47 pm

      When the sun comes out. πŸ™‚

  60. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Yes, many of the players had “slumps” this year. The problem was, some of them seemed to last for months…. Without wanting to revisit the dialog about whether bad pitching or lack of hitting was to blame (we’ve all agreed that everything was to blame), I look at it like a company’s financial performance, week by week or month by month. If you make a graph with the x axis being “break-even” (.500 win/loss record comparable to break even for profit/loss) and the y axis being wins (profit) above the x axis and losses below it, and plot every game’s result along the x axis as a win or loss… Well, if I’m the CEO or CFO of the company, I’m taking a red marker and circling the period of time when the “company” stopped making a “profit” and the losses plunged the team way down into “loss” territory, where they have remained. That red highlight over the decline would encompass the games pretty much from the start of June through July, which is when the pitching staff was allowing fewer runs than in April/May but the “hitting” produced 80 fewer runs than April/May. As CEO or CFO, I want to know “what happened to those 80 runs, and how do we fix this” to get the trend inching upwards again. They have stabilized… but they just got too far down below that damned x axis to make it work for this year because of those prolonged “slumps” by too many of the hitters who were counted on to “make the sales”. Sabean has his work cut out for him; definitely in the pitching, but I also think there will be some kind of (major?) trade for a bigger bat.

    • zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 7:31 pm

      I agree with all of that. WHEN things happen is important.

    • James's avatar James said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm

      As CFO , the first thing I would flag is the preposterous 134 runs given up in May. Sales were great, but profits only ok. A bad performance that set the tone for all of the crummy months that followed, including June, July, August:

      109
      116
      125

      These are really poor numbers. Some times profits are lost largely because of massive, endemic (and hidden) inefficiencies that are overlooked because sales are temporarily down.

  61. Flavor's avatar Flavor said, on September 15, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    2 games have been stopped today because of lightning. Why? Safety? All the fans continued to sit there in the rain. Did the game have to continue for someone to get get struck tonight?

  62. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    I probably didn’t make my point about Pence very well. What I was trying to say was that, when the season is over, the stats will make it look like Pence wasn’t part of the problem, when in fact, he was.
    I’m very happy that Pence has been very very productive in the Quest For Fourth. But he was lacking during the pivotal time of Quest For First.
    And, yes, lots and lots of Giants under-achieved this season. I get that. I’m just saying that Pence under-achieved this season, too, though the end of the season stats won’t say that.
    I know, James, I’m a lost cause on this issue. (grin)

    • twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 7:56 pm

      we are striving for third, not fourth… no one who actually pays to attention to numbers ( and many do) will think that pence did not under achieve for part of the season. like many, i keep track all the time. people who like to keep track of ‘the numbers’ won’t be ‘fooled’ into thinking that the full season numbers tell all of the story. check it out sometime. monthly splits are at baseball reference.
      but at any rate, pence will get his huge deal based on his performance over several seasons, and an educated guess on what he’ll produce in the future. based his past performancs and his make-up he’s as good a bet as there is.

      • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:27 pm

        Glad to see the Sherpas in their rightful place . . . LAST PLACE. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  63. PawlieKokonuts's avatar PawlieKokonuts said, on September 15, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Good night, girls. Heading to Old Forge, NY, tomorrow for a writing workshop and book signing Tuesday. Foliage should be loverly.

  64. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:15 pm

    “we are striving for third, not fourth…”

    Good point, but I’ll just be so glad not to finish in last place. (grin)

  65. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    I got a kick out of when the broadcast showed the two Giants fans wearing the famous sombreros. Krukow said: “We’re going to be seeing those the rest of our lives. There’s 20,000 of them out there.”
    Yes, there are. Yes, there are. (grin)

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:31 pm

      Love this post!

  66. twinfan1's avatar twinfan1 said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    well, i think i’d better go back to watching the 49er game.

  67. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on September 15, 2013 at 8:38 pm

    James, of course you are right, as CFO, you would be alarmed at those runs allowed (perhaps viewed as “costs” to the company) being way too high, a trend companies cannot afford to allow to continue for long. But still, through May, there were profits, as the “sales revenue” (runs scored) kept up. Those *costs* did decline in the 2nd 2-month period; it was only when the sales revenue declined rather precipitously in June and July that the meager profits turned into a whopping loss. Obviously it was a disaster from any way you look at it; revenue just could not keep up to cover the costs. I don’t really care anymore how this relates to this year; I’m more concerned that putting essentially the same non-revenue producing lineup out there next year still won’t cover the *costs*… even though your statistical view of the whole season might eventually show that the costs were the problem, not the revenue. But I still think it was that 2-month period of no revenue that killed the team this year. Don’t want to see that happen again next year.

  68. snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Breaking Bad tonight.
    Wow. Just, wow…

    • tedspe's avatar tedspe said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:21 pm

      I’m more of a Walking Dead guy but I believe ya snarkk

  69. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:23 pm

    Snarkk, which episode? Here in China, I’ve been streaming the whole series and am now at Season 5, episode 12….. I don’t know how far you are there nearing conclusion….

    • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:36 pm

      Se5ep14. Only two left now. Trust me, this one’s a blockbuster…

      • paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on September 15, 2013 at 10:39 pm

        Thanks for the heads-up. I’ll watch 12 and 13 today and have to wait for 14 to get streamed here…..

  70. zumiee's avatar zumiee said, on September 15, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    I agree about tonight’s episode of “Breaking Bad.” It’s awesomely intense. Kind of the opposite of the 49er game.
    —–
    If you have the time, this is a terrific and inspiring interview with Linda Ronstadt that appeared in today’s SF Chronicle.
    http://www.sfgate.com/music/article/Linda-Ronstadt-now-voiceless-singer-has-been-4815335.php

  71. paulinasia's avatar paulinasia said, on September 16, 2013 at 2:11 am

    Ok, I’ve caught up on Breaking Bad. Yeah, Snarrk and Zum… intense, that episode 14. I have been right guessing some things that will happen, but I didn’t see some of that coming. Now, after streaming 5 seasons in about two weeks, I must wait for the next one? πŸ™‚

    • blade3colorado's avatar blade3colorado said, on September 16, 2013 at 6:13 am

      Grab a Chinese honey and . . . umm, have a “happy ending.” Bet that doesn’t happen much, if ever on Breaking Bad. πŸ™‚

      • snarkk's avatar snarkk said, on September 16, 2013 at 10:11 am

        Walt wasn’t in the game for the chicks…


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