Tired
Question: Last night’s loss was as galling as it was frustrating. But was it worse for you because of the galling and frustrating last 2+ months? For me, I think it was. I am tired of Bruce Bochy saying the same thing over and over, just using different words, in his post game conferences. I am tired of the Giants losing at home. I am tired of the offense doing next to nothing every night. I am tired of stupid base running mistakes from Gregor Blanco. And I am tired of Tim Flannery never getting any criticism for making bad decisions.
So yes, last night sucked. Maybe a little bit more than a random August loss normally does….
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I kind of like the way Bochy handles the post game pressers but yeah the losing sucks balls. I’m most bummed for Belt. It’s looking more and more like he’s done.
He was belted.
Lot of blame to go around, and it’s easy to be negative. The pen combined to give up 3 hits 3 walks one HBP and a wild pitch that wound up costing 4 runs in 3 innings after Bum left. Marlon Byrd hurt SF with a HR and his defense, and the kid Asche hit 2 bombs, one off Affeldt one off Casilla. Not a guy that should be the difference.
Pagan made a dumb baserunning move too, just like Rollins did. No one beside the embattled Morse drove in a run, and Giants never scored after his 3 run bomb.
This is the White Sox and Phils that SF has lost 2 of 3 to, at home. Not good.
Kuip was on KNBR with Tolbert and Ratto before the game, and while a lot of that was just f-ing around and really funny, at one point Tolbert asked him for an explanation about Giants stumbles of late at home. Kuip said he couldn’t believe Giants collectively, as a team, had played as bad as they have. Individually, sure guys go into and out of slumps, but for a team that has been so good at home for last few years, it’s unfathomable.
And I really do believe guys are playing for their jobs in these last 6 weeks…or out of them.
Props to SanD for columns on D’Acquisto/Bonds/Dietz, bright spot yesterday.
All in all, I’d rather be a South Korean Catholic
How about the walking dead?
I get it.
At least Michael Morris wasn’t completely useless in the game. Perhaps another bomb today? One can hope.
OTOH, Bochy may have noticed that he tried to go through a wall and didn’t help them win.
lqtm
Just took a look at the Wild Card standings. Amazing that we are only a half game out. Maybe even more amazing is that the Pads and Mets are both well under .500 but are 6.5 out—which ain’t that far back.
Glad you and others liked those articles Willie. I always appreciate it when I throw you a nice dime and you give me a little point after taking it to the rack. I try to instill that in my JV players. Let the guy know he put you in a nice position to score. Then he’s more likely to look for you again. Then other guys start getting more aware of making good passes.
Sounded like Flan sending Pablo last night was pretty loco, but by and large I’m all for sending guys when in doubt. Kuiper said on the radio he was out by 35 feet. Please tell me he was exaggerating.
Like Carty’s 366, Dietz’s 300 is a BA that’s stuck with me. While a general case of blackballing seems a little far-fetched, using his crappy D as en excuse to dump a good player not in favor with management sounds on the mark.
Yes, Craig, a bit tired of all of those things… but last night, it was something that broke down that has been pretty steady the last few years: Affeldt and Lopez (and any other lefty) have countered Philly’s lefty-heavy lineup very well, ever since 2010. If that had continued, G’s would’ve won. On any given night……
Still, in all, I’m feeling hopeful they’re sensing the urgency and maybe can handle targeting a wildcard spot at this point. And yes, SanDawg, Pablo was out by an awful lot. When that ball was smoked to RF, I immediately muttered, ok, not sending Sandoval, but lo and behold. Big goof by Flannery that may have cost the game as much as all of the other boo boos we can count from last night……
Another no out runner at 3rd opportunity wasted.
Yeah, Dirt, that was pretty bad but unfortunately common, so it seems. Hello… do they go up there thinking, “I’m gonna hit a HR”…. instead of thinking about just doing the minimum of what needs to be done? Like, a ground ball to the right side… a sac fly…. Anyone know the status of Bam Bam’s contract? I say, if his contract finishes this year, fine, let him walk, and pay Scutaro what he is owed next year as a hitting coach, since he likely won’t be playing. He just always seemed to be aware of what needed to be done at the plate. These guys don’t seem to be able to just “do their jobs” at any given at-bat….
And damn, Seaver looks great. I want to know what diet or drugs he’s on…
$100 Cabernet
lol. That bottle was empty and he mighta referenced HIS pitch count about 16 times in that convo. He was loaded
etcetera!
Paul, I though Ishikawa did okay there. Just got under it but I agree. Situational ABs seem lost on this club. BamBam? Eh. I don’t put much emphasis on the hitting coach. This LUs performance or lack thereof falls squarely on Sabean in my opinion.
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Ishi….no thanks. There has to be a better option for firstbase.
The Ishi-Craw duo has been Rally-killer Supreme today.
Always loved Ishi’s defense. Not much offense coming from him anymore. In Belt’s (prolonged) absence, would still rather see a decent hitting OFer (ala Byrd) added to play left and let Morse play 1st, since he seems to hit better when he plays there.. maybe.. a little… grasping at straws here… 🙂
I hear ya. Sabean’s lack of urgency is frustrating. Sabean or Bochy (I can’t remember which) said the Giants can’t rely on the other Wild Card contenders to keep struggling. But that’s EXACTLY what the Giants organization is doing.
In the book of the 2014 Giants, the Dan Uggla chapter should be called “The Fans Get Told To Close Their Eyes And Think Of England.”
5-1, that’s it for me today.
“You’re not going to get many strikes at the belt with Joe West.”
Yeah, even though the rule book says the top of the strikezone is at the letters or armpits or something. And West is a longtime veteran umpire. I get a kick out of the “make up your own rule” aspect of it.
when the Phillies are takin’ you out to the woodshed, you know it’s not your year.
Ok, watching this fucking futility, it’s an inopportune post, but I can’t help myself . . . .
SF does indeed suck in those <2 out situational ABs in 2014. How do they compare? They advance the runner 45% of their PAs, with a league avg standing at 50%. They'd have 12 more runs scored on the season if they were at league avg.
However, they have been way above league avg with runners on 3rd with 2 outs.
In other words, there really is no situational hitting issue here. The real problem, as usual, when a team is not scoring enough, is the lack of OBP and/or SP, also known as . . . .
The long anticipated evening out of Hudson's stats. Bummer.
I can appreciate the evening out of numbers and such, but the Giants have the worst record in MLB in the last two months. They are sucking in all aspects.
The pitching was excellent in July, Zumie, and it has not been bad overall in August so far.
Whelp. Yeah.
Hoping they turn this around is like expecting Lincecum to recapture his mastery. A grand illusion.
Roger Staubach in an SF cap? McCartney concert? Moral support for Belt?
Nice afternoon spent with friends . . . Turn on the game and WTF???? Hudson’s piece of shit performance supported by an equally inept piece of shit offensive performance. Outta here . . . Enjoy Flappers. 😦
Here’s another thought: Can Bumgarner play LF? Now and then? Like, when he’s due to just do his light throwing between starts? Guy can hit better than most of the OFers on the roster…. I know, too much risk of injury. Desperate times call for desperate measures. This team needs a psychological work-up, top to bottom, on why last year and this year they just…. stopped…. hitting and winning in June and July and now beyond…. Not their year, huh, Craig. I’m not there yet… yet…..
Days like this make it hard not to think about blowing it all up from top to bottom…
yup, or bottom to top; whatfuckingever
I was referring to the Phillies…
Loaded with aging players and big contracts. You think the Giants have it bad….you nailed it Loo…better a Giant fan than a Phillie fan. That franchise is a damned mess.
Actually Chi, I was referring to the Giants when I wrote it,
The rally changed my mind……for the moment.
No matter how much I look for sunny hope in the gloom of August, it keeps getting clouded over. I’m a fan; I’m hoping I am wrong. I really hope I turn out laughably and embarrassingly wrong. But . . .
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Don’t look now. A ground attack comeback!
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
I was this close to giving up (holding forefinger one inch from thumb)
Good thread…great questions. But re: Bochy, I mean really…WTF is he supposed to say? The losing sucks, but I am with Dirt…I think Bochy is fine in the way he is handing the post games.
Last night hurt! Like getting kicked in the teeth and the nuts at the same time (never happened to me, but I can only imagine the pain). I bailed when Hudson got pulled and was watching a re-run of a Warren Miller flick. Slid back over to the game…5-2, runners on, and BAM…tie fucking game.
This motherfucker is NOT over. And if it is and the G-men end up sucking balls, you can call me on my Polly-ism and I will eat words, brothers.
Now let’s see the boys win this fucking game, eh…
Damn. I got my second wind. We have a ballgame!
Nice work from Machi. Now THAT is what I expect from this bullpen. Not the bullshit we saw last night.
That blonde from the Solar Company is definitely a hooker…
LOL . . . I was thinking the same thing Loo and not only that, but Kuip is probably nailing her on his days off.
P.S. Yeah, a glutton for punishment . . . Had this piece of shit game running in the background and it drew me %#$@#$%) in again.
Well, obviously Morse is a streaky-assed hitter just like Posey, Pablo…the lot of them.
That clumsy ox is suddenly on fire!
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Morse runs like an uncoordinated pansy (with his arms wind milling). All in all, he has been MIA for the last couple of months. The homer last night was Morse’s first since July 29 and third since June 5. He probably has another power surge left in him this season, but next year – I suggest the Giants move on and get a real power hitter that can half-assed field his position.
He was put on Earth to be a DH.
In Japan.
Yep. Good one.
outside of the central league in Japan, that’s the only other place on earth besides the NL that still has the DH….
I concur.
To use one of your favorite lines . . . hilarious!!
Morse getting his groove back would be about the best *acquisition* the team could swing….
6-5 Giants in the lead! Damn
Phuck yeah!
haha, I thought you bailed?
Ah, got nothing else better to do at work.
“Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.”
Flav, see his 3:34pm . . . Hey, they pulled me back in too. Just like drugs. lqtm.
fantastic redemption for Blanco. What a game!
Did Rollins think that was a hot dog wrapper blowing past him?
Duffy got a hit! Yikes…..
I don’t think it’s totally coincidence that the game changed when Bochy took out Ishi and Craw.
What happened to Craw? Injury?*
* I was probably out on my deck howling nasty words at the top of my lungs after their face plant in the first few innings.
Double switch, Blade…
TY loo
I would fine Byrd for walking to the dugout before the ump actually called the third strike. I don’t care if he knew it. It’s like showboating in reverse.
“showboating in reverse” is almost kinda rad. I support it…
Panik is looking like the real deal.
A win fixes a lot of things, in my screwed up head..
You and me both, brother.
Nice comeback. Humm baby!
Ballgame! Brought to you compliments of the Panik attack. I like that kid more all the time.
And what about seeing number 54 out there saving a game…I like it. Reminded me of days of past. 2010, 2012…
Humm Baby, Dirt. And the follow-up…”Let’s Do It Again.” You’re Gonna Like These Kids…
Best win of the year. I hope the Giants bring Seaver to every game and let him drink as many bottles as he wants. He’s our new good luck charm (drunk, at least, not sure how he’d do sober)….
wtf? Tom Seaver was on the air, looped?
Alright! Did that 9th seem to take forever?
Yeah, that game looked lost 7 ways from Sunday. Maybe there was another game that was better this year, but I sure as hell can’t remember it. Damn, I wish Kershaw wasn’t pitching tonight. My day would then be perfect.
I agree. If not the best win of the year…damned near. Which would be better? And it still pains me that they should have won that game yesterday. Erase, Rewind. Delete. Win the series tomorrow. One day, one game at a time.
This team reminds me of the 2010 team. Sure, they started out hot with the best record for some time, but now, currently, no one thinks the Giants have a chance. And I love being in that position. Let’s see if they have that magic one more time. How fucking awesome would Three in Five Sound…
Off for a hike, dinner and some live music. Make it awesome Flappers…
My day was a crap, a nap, and the Flap…
how succinct…a Brooklynese haiku
You know, you’re right. Much more 2010 than 2012. In ’10, I feared all the effort to get to postseason might leave us with nothing left. Not so. Then in 2012, it was relatively easy to win the NL West, then it looked like the playoffs would be a quick wipeout. Nope. Who knows. Still a long road ahead. Well, not THAT long.
But long enough…
Had to leave the house when it was 5-5. I have a notverysmartphone. Come home. Check score. FUCKIN A VICTORY!!!!!!! I take full credit for this one through my uber-doomer reverse-psych post at 3:26. PhuckinAyeah.
It’s all on you Pawlie…you kicked ass dude. Get your ass out of the house in key situations more often! (Insert gay-assed smiley face here…)
Day Game tomorrow. Nice win today.
SanDawg: Just got around to reading the outstanding ’70’s Giant stuff from the other day. Hope Pawlie and the others saw it. I remember reading somewhere (Sporting News?) that Giant pitchers were sick of Dietz “boxing the ball”.” I don’t doubt the blackball theories but back then the Giants sold EVERYBODY. Never knew Bobby Bonds was such a team leader.
Well that definitely didn’t suck.
best win of the year coming off one of the worst losses of the year. Bounce? Pivot? Maybe….
Panik won’t even go through the league once so I think he’ll be able to sustain something decent. Morse busting out is good to see. Gotta come out and play some good crisp ball tomorrow. It’ll be interesting to see who gets penciled in at SS.
Quirky move by Donnie 2x; letting Kershaw hit in the 7th, down 3-1. Has 2x lost a little faith in his bullpen lately? The standard move would be to pinch-hit, and save your starter’s arm for the next start.
What was the pitch count? Seven innings is a walk in the park for Kershaw. And the dude can swing a bat. Hard to tell without knowing the situation. There have been times when Bochy let Bumgarner hit for himself in similar situations.
If the playoffs started tomorrow, the Giants would be in! Has this been a wacky season so far, or what?
They would play the Cards in the one-game playoff, but that’s a story for another day. We had their number in ’12. 🙂
If they get in, anything can happen.
” A crap, a nap, and The Flap”
If there is a posting Hall-of-Fame, I nominate that one.
I was listening to the game when it was a mess. Kuip was killing time by talking about opening day line-ups from over the years. First it was the World Series years, then he was just throwing out line-ups and leadoff hitters from all over the place—Harvey Keunn to Tyoshi Shinjo. (Took a guess on his first name)
I was bound and determined to drag my 16 year old out to the backyard for some yardwork and I got his ass moving just as we got a couple of runners on and things were starting to look up a bit. Totally missed the rally, but what a great feeling to come back later and see they pulled it out.
“Yard work! My favorite thing!” said no 16 year old ever.
🙂
Yeah, I had bailed for a bit, but came back 5-2 with a couple on base, no outs. It was a sweet rally. We haven’t seen anything like that from this team in a long time. Shinjo…ouch.
Chris Davis with a beautiful catch to rob Gordon. Keep that pesky guy off the bases.
Kershaw out there for the 9th, down 3-1. Yeah, his pitch count is kind of low, but still, I think it’s an odd move.
Are we suspicious of Kemp’s renaissance? Career going down the toilet, and then suddenly boom! Raking the ball.
It’s a trend: Uribe, Gordon, Kemp….
Just sayin.’ Just sayin’….
Dodgers lose. As someone mentioned, the Dodgers have let the Giants hang around. Giants down just 3 in the loss column.
And Kershaw takes the loss. Maybe there is hope after all.
1 game playoff: Bumgarner or Hudson, assuming there’s even an option?
Bumgarner vs. Carpenter would be my bet.
Cards lose to the Pads. And A’s are now percentage points behind out of first. A fine day all around.
Watched the game at my sister’s house. She made some weird Czech chicken dish that was freaking delicious and at one point her cat snuck up behind me while I was sitting on the couch and started grooming my semi-bald head. I swear, that cat was licking the back of my head for about 10 minutes. It was hilarious. It was strange. But it was hilarious. Good game. Not sure the Giants won it themselves, though Morse and Panik sure contributed, but the Phillies committed a couple of major fuck ups. But a win’s a win
“…but the Phillies committed a couple of major fuck-ups”…just insert Giants into that stream and you have last night’s game.
And keeping with today’s titled topic:
Just finished reading the entire thread. Really funny, good stuff and Loo, you were on fire as usual. And my Pope joke, it wasn’t great but thanks for getting it, pawlie
Well, Mr. Lincecum has been pretty good at home this year so I’m not like trepi…trepi…dicious…or something tomorrow.
Goodnight, gentlemen (?)
Flavor – thanks once again for having this “place.”