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Winning….and a Loss

Posted in Uncategorized by Flavor on April 26, 2015

That win last night felt like we just won our 4th in 6. Shit, beating the Rockies? You know what they say, “once you display a skill, you own it for life.” I’m hoping we display that skill again today.

And on a more important note, Paul in Asia, I give you my most heartfelt condolences on the loss of your dad. Two Flaps Up isn’t enough, but it’s all I got. I know your friends here will surely show you the love in the comments below when they read this post. Hang in there.


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  1. blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:09 am

    Nice post. Already spoke to Paul and he is making arrangements to return to the States. Let him expand on that . . .

  2. wilcojoe said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:16 am

    Paul, I remember reading some great posts about you watching baseball with your father at your side. Our thoughts are with you and your family.

  3. unca_chuck said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:28 am

    Sorry to hear that Paul. Condolences to you and yours. Sounds like you two had a wonderful relationship. Thoughts and prayers. . . .

    • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:30 am

      Unca . . . Belated birthday wishes to you. 🙂

  4. eddacker said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:35 am

    Damn, stay strong Paul you are on your way. Sorry for your loss.

  5. eddacker said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Giants Win in Denver – Wow!
    With the amount of runners we get on base this team could be a real winner some day. Must be bad coaching. Spring Training is the time for players to learn the value of certain situations and not just go out there to pad your personal stats with an eye on your next contract. What a bunch of selfish buffoons. geesh.
    But it’s a win.

    And then there was the F-bomb tirade as reported by NPR’s Scott Simon:
    “I report on this because it shows the power of words to relay intense emotion. In his 5 minute reply, some called it a rant, he used a word some were calling ‘the common vulgarity that begins with F’.
    77 times he used it as an adjective, a gerund, an interjection, but not once did he use it to describe the act of intimacy for which that word was coined.
    The good point BRYAN PRICE was making was lost among the expletives and reminds us words should be used like jalapeños and not poured over our speech like ketchup.”
    So an emotional complaint about the team being able to tell players their fate and not have them learn it via twitter is reported as an emotional rant.

    No mention of how good Bryan Price usually is with the press and the public.

    Which also reminds BASEBALL LOVERS EVERYWHERE of the Obama comment from the correspondents’ dinner last night:

    [when he’s asked] ” ‘Do you have a bucket list?’ I say, well I have something that rhymes with bucket.”

    Immigration executive action? “Bucket!” he deadpanned. Stricter climate rules. “Bucket!”

    • wilcojoe said, on April 26, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Yeah, his bucket list line was pretty good. Almost as good as his wisecracks about deflate gate during the Patriots white house visit last week.

  6. Carstie Clausen said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:54 am

    Paul: My condolences. Wonderful memories will live on.

  7. sandog said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:12 am

    So sorry to hear about your dad, Paul. My thoughts and prayers go out to your family.

  8. Paul Sorensen said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:06 am

    Thanks, Flappers all. Tough night for me here in Saigon, while my Mom and brother and sister hang out in NJ/PA and try to figure things out. I’ll try to get a very early morning flight out of here on Tuesday, which would put me into Newark Tues. afternoon. Thinking of hitting the Bay Area for a few days, though I’m not sure I can swing it. Cali is always good for my soul…

    Yeah, Joe, I did post here sometimes when I was visiting my folks and was always amazed and grateful to sit there in matching recliners watching baseball with my Dad, big Phillies fan as he was. 98 years old, man. In fact, I think I posted here right after game 6 of the 2010 NLCS in Philly, when I just so happened to be back visiting at that time.

    Pops took me to my first baseball game at Yankee Stadium in ’61. I was 5 years old. Fucking-A, man, Mantle and Maris in the outfield, the best hot dogs I’d ever tasted, and my eyes opened wider than they’d ever opened before. Some dozen years later, when I was in high school and smoking pot and not really getting along with my folks in particular and authority in general, he convinced me to go to one last baseball game together, Shea Stadium, Mets hosting the Braves. Mays playing for the Mets in what I believe was his last year, and Aaron winding things up in Atlanta. Yeah, that was my last baseball game with him. Not bad. After the Giants won it all in 2010, he didn’t hold a grudge about the Phillies thing. In fact, he was pulling for the Giants in 2012 and 2014, because I’m a Giants fan. Damn, this is gonna hurt…

    • blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:48 am

      Be safe Paul . . .

  9. ewisco said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Vaya con Dios Paul

  10. Flavor said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:18 am

    Hey Paul– did a little digging. Finding it is my tribute to your dad:

    paulinasia said, on October 24, 2010 at 10:24 am (Edit)
    Ah, Flappers, after long silence (internet and computer problems galore in Saigon), I just wanted to stop by and say congrats. The team couldn’t have done it with out you. I am visiting my parents at the moment in Stroudsburg, PA. My Dad is a long-time Philly fan. He’s 94 years old. What fun it was watching these games with him this past week. Went thru several bottles of Laphroaig scotch together. Torture along the way, but in the end… pure joy. For me, anyway. Too many thoughts and observations to comment on, except this: I have never been so happy to see such a demonstrative and energetic strike-3 call from an umpire. Sweet to watch even the reply of just his call on that. Icing on the cake: I fly into SF on Wed. afternoon for 2 evenings before flying back to Saigon. Nice to be there at this time. Enjoy, ya’ll. And Michael… best wishes…

    • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:33 am

      Awesome. If I can even make it to 94, hell 84, tippling a finger or two of single malt will be on my list of goals for the day…

      • Flavor said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:36 am

        and this was in 2010. he made it to 98! I hope he tipped one this week.

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:41 am

        I’ve got some Laphroaig in the snarkk spirits nook. It is an Isle of Islay, a peaty wonder that is definitely not for wimps — so hats off to Paul’s dad. Hey, just more empirical evidence that scotch is good for you… 😉

  11. snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:29 am

    Condolences, Paul, on your loss.
    If baseball is anything, for family and friends it is a tie that binds, a sharing of souls, a maker of memories that last a lifetime, and beyond.
    The Flap today is showing that, in spades…

  12. Paul Sorensen said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:43 am

    Thanks, all. And Craig, ah, thanks for digging that up. I think there was also another one where I talked about watching Wilson’s strike 3 of Howard and having to tone down my joy while sitting with my beleaguered Dad and then going outside to have a smoke and begin some joyful head nodding… And yeah, really, Snarkk, baseball and Fathers and sons and friends… microcosm of life.

    • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:50 am

      Great story.
      I have no sons. But, my snarkkettes, whom I wouldn’t trade for anything, recently have been bugging me to go to a game this year ASAP after school is over. For the first time in a while, our traditional Giants outing to ATT did not happen last season. Your great stories, Paul, are hitting me over the head to make sure I get it done soon this season. Years from now, after my last wee dram of scotch has been taken, they’ll have some more memories of baseball and the Old Man…

  13. pawliekokonuts said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:45 am

    Paul, heartfelt sympathies. From Theodore Roethke, and me, to you: “What falls away is always. And is near.”

  14. djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:58 am

    Condolences to you and your family, Paul.
    I always enjoyed when you wrote about your dad.

  15. djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    Today’s game canceled.

  16. Macdog said, on April 26, 2015 at 12:02 pm

    Paul, I’m very sorry for your loss. What wonderful memories you shared, the Yanks game and then the Mays-Aaron game. My condolences to your and your family.

  17. djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 12:32 pm

  18. Lurker John said, on April 26, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Paul, I’m sorry to hear of your loss. I offer my condolences to you and your family.

  19. snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    All of you guys planning to go the May 2 home game, check your emails, I need your input…

  20. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    So sorry for your loss, Paul.

  21. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    Beautiful video clip, Loo. Thanks.

    • Flavor said, on April 26, 2015 at 5:57 pm


      • djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 7:28 pm

        Glad you liked it.
        Note: There is a brief shot of me at the :37 second mark…

  22. snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    We’ve got 6 tix in hand, Club Level on the RF side for Angels May 2, essentially seats altogether; 1:05 pm start. All seats spoken for so far. If anyone else wants to join deciding later in the week, say so here on the Flap this week or shoot me an email if you have it, or shoot one to BF and he can forward it to me. No guarantee we can get more seats immediately nearby those in hand, but that’s never deterred anybody before. We can get seats as late as the night before or early morning of the game, the prices will be down at that point, just no guarantee of what section in Club Level you can get, but you never know. Besides, we will no doubt roam some during the game anyway in the Club Level just checking out all the action. The game promotion is World Series T-Shirt. Starter is either Huddy or Timmeh, depending on whether Bochy sets Voggy loose in LA on Wednesday…

    • djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      Did you mean to type lets Voggy lose or sets Voggy loose?

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:23 pm

        I typed lose first, then fixed it. Freudian slip…

    • Flavor said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm

      bummed I can’t join you guys but it’s Derby Day plus I have to somehow fit a VB tourney in. At least it’s in San Mateo which is about 50 miles closer than they usually are…….

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:30 pm

        I’ll fire up a Makers in your memory, uh, spirit, and toast to Kentucky bourbon and the sure victory of whatever flea bitten Nag you’re betting on… 😉

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:42 pm

        Skip adding the water except for grandma’s glass, the crushed ice gets that done. And, use half the suggested simple sugar solution, if you want to taste the bourbon. Or, just add bourbon and one ice cube, envision some mint, and call it at Imaginary Julep…

      • djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:44 pm

        Got your horse(s) yet, BF?
        I think the last time I cashed the Derby was Aristides…

  23. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Red Sox’s challenge was shown in a nutshell today. Hanley hit two HRs, Sandoval hit his first HR, and the Red Sox lost 18-7.

    • Flavor said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:26 pm

      lol, great way to put it

    • zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 7:27 pm

      Of the 18 runs, 6 of them were given up by Hembree. In case anyone was wondering what Hembree’s been up to, he’s in the majors, and his ERA is currently 40.50.

  24. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Things would be fine with just one win in the Dodger series coming up. Any more wins than that, all the better, but at least one win in the series puts the Giants only 4 1/2 games behind the Dodgers as April is ending. Without having had Pence in the line-up for April, I think that’s pretty good.

  25. blade3colorado said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    Candlestick park turnstile and bathroom sign auctions are just the beginning . . . Now the Giants are really getting serious about maximizing ALL revenue streams. Ta da! Get your $200 dollar (beginning bid) Eli Whiteside home opener catching coach jersey . . . lqtm.

    • zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm

      I didn’t know that so many of the game jerseys were sold. Well, it helps pay for all those World Series rings they give out. 🙂

  26. Macdog said, on April 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Warriors win the title!

  27. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    With the Giants’ postponed game, and the Dodgers giving Kershaw an extra day of rest, there’s going to be a MadBum/Kershaw re-match on Tuesday night, and Lincecum vs. Anderson tomorrow night. Bochy’s leaning towards Vogie vs. Greinke on Wednesday.

  28. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    McCarthy, who the Dodgers signed for something like 4 years/$40 million, goes for an MRI tomorrow on his elbow. McCarthy has a history of arm trouble, and the signing always seemed kind of questionable.
    Alex Guerrero is off to a hot start for them, but is he for real, or a flash-in-the-pan that the league will figure out? It’ll be interesting to see. He’s kind of been their Justin Maxwell. D2X wants to find a spot for him, but there’s no obvious spot, other than sitting Uribe, and 2X likes Uribe a lot. Uribe’s the type of gamer that managers love, and rightfully so. He’s played well for the Dodgers the last couple of seasons.

  29. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Wow- regarding Wainwright:
    “The Cardinals officially placed their long time ace on the disabled list Sunday morning. After labeling it only an ankle injury on Saturday, the team is now acknowledging the possibility of an Achilles injury, which likely has some hearts skipping a few beats in the clubhouse and back in St. Louis.
    The team announced Wainwright will undergo an MRI on Monday in St. Louis.”

  30. zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    If Wainwright misses the rest of the season because he was injured badly while batting, that could actually seriously open some debate in NL league offices about the DH. It’s the one thing that could get the NL seriously discussing it. I still don’t think they would vote for it, yet, but they might be leaning a little more in its direction, and as time goes on, leaning ever more towards it.

  31. djloo27 said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    Possibly the best hitting pitcher ever. WTF happened to him?

    Scherzer has just come out for the DH. He hurt his little thumb batting. What a pussy.
    I get root canals without novacaine.

    • zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      I saw his quote; he said something like, “Who would people rather see bat, me or Big Papi?” And my answer would be: “Fine, let’s do a poll of National League FANS, and when the DH loses by about 95%-5%, he can then shut his pie-hole about it.” As a former AL guy, he knows very little about how National League fans feel about the DH. I think we have a pretty good idea how they feel about it.

    • Macdog said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:36 pm

      I saw that, too. If Scherzer doesn’t want to bat, he should’ve stayed in the half-ass American League. But I guess that would’ve meant accepting a contract for less than $120 million.

      • Macdog said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:37 pm

        Correction: $210 million.

  32. mrsprtdude said, on April 26, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    Sorry for your loss Paul. Wainwright tore his Achilles by the look of it…

  33. snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    One top pitcher gets hurt batting, and that’s a reason to install the DH in the NL? Gimme a break. Catchers are getting hit in the facemask with increasing regularity — should we install a robot catcher? Increase the NL rosters to 27, and continue the no DH rule. That’ll keep the MLBPA happy…

    • zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:11 pm

      I see your point, but my question would be: would the catcher collision rules have changed if Posey hadn’t been so seriously injured?

      • zumiee said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:12 pm

        And I’m not saying I know the answer to that question. I’m just wondering.

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:22 pm

        No, I have no doubt Posey’s injury was a, maybe the, driving force. But, catcher collisions and injuries had been on the increasing radar before that. How many pitchers are getting hurt swinging bats? I don’t hear about too many in the NL. One of the Giants got hurt a few years back — wasn’t it Runzler — taking a swing and wrenching his knee or something? But, relievers rarely swing a bat. So I don’t see a very strong analogy between the catcher collisions and Wainwright getting hurt…

      • snarkk said, on April 26, 2015 at 11:42 pm

        I don’t know the stats. But, I would bet more pitchers get hurt fielding the position, including covering first on grounders hit wide of the first baseman, than get hurt taking a swing at the plate. Good example, Hudson and his ankle. Now, Casilla popped his hammy running hard to first on a grounder like a dope — against management orders — so you could say that was batting related. Sort of. So, for me, a pitcher can get hurt in just about the same way as other players, except for getting shelled by a hard hit screamer up the middle — that’s where a pitcher is really singularly vulnerable compared to the position players…

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